RobSS Posted December 2, 2021 Author Share Posted December 2, 2021 (edited) On 11/22/2021 at 9:11 PM, Diesel said: I wonder what you made of the Picard series? It explores the AI and consciousness. I am very interested in AI and recently published a conversation with responses to conspiracy theory and the nature of reality. Very interesting, thanks for the suggestion. Edited December 2, 2021 by RobSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diesel Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 3 hours ago, RobSS said: Very interesting, thanks for the suggestion. Your welcome, I did catch up on the discussion but it seemed to just descend into nonsense. Shame as I think AI is an interesting topic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSS Posted December 2, 2021 Author Share Posted December 2, 2021 Just now, Diesel said: Your welcome, I did catch up on the discussion but it seemed to just descend into nonsense. Shame as I think AI is an interesting topic. It's sad, but even on he David Icke forum, there are still some who want to suppress what's going on. I agree, it is an interesting topic. I think those that are still in denial will either fade away into obscurity, or they'll get onboard and start working out what's going on. Our future depends on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diesel Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 4 minutes ago, RobSS said: It's sad, but even on he David Icke forum, there are still some who want to suppress what's going on. I agree, it is an interesting topic. I think those that are still in denial will either fade away into obscurity, or they'll get onboard and start working out what's going on. Our future depends on it. How do you see things playing out then. For me fact is already stranger than fiction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSS Posted December 2, 2021 Author Share Posted December 2, 2021 Just now, Diesel said: How do you see things playing out then. For me fact is already stranger than fiction. It's possible that things may appear to go in favour of the powers that be for periods of time. Then things could go the other way, and so on. In the past, under "normal" conditions, we'd have stood no chance, but Divine Will is on the side of the good, and a way could be shown for those with ears to hear. Only truth can defeat evil. We have powers that we may still not be aware of in dealing with that evil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobb Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 (edited) 55 minutes ago, RobSS said: Only truth can defeat evil Now that's what I call SOUL power, knowing the difference and speaking it. Edited December 3, 2021 by bobb nevermind I am crap at this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novymir Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 Truth "defeats" "evil" by falsifying it. One is of Reality, the other is not. Therefore... The Truth can NEVER be falsified, though they go to great lengths trying...it's a silly-assed fantasy, an exersise in futility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSS Posted December 3, 2021 Author Share Posted December 3, 2021 (edited) Truth cannot defeat evil by falsifying it because truth does not lie, nor does it falsify, and if truth does lie, then it's no longer truth, but truth can expose evil by showing how a truth was falsified. Evil tries in vain to triumph over truth by falsifying truth, but truth can never ultimately be falsified because truth is everlasting power, whereas evil has no power of its own, and is always a temporary enterprise, just as darkness has no power of its own. Darkness is merely the absence of light! "They say that what is right is wrong and what is wrong is right; that black is white and white is black; bitter is sweet and sweet is bitter. Woe to those who are wise and shrewd in their own eyes!" (Isaiah) Edited December 3, 2021 by RobSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novymir Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 20 minutes ago, RobSS said: Truth cannot falsify evil because truth does not lie, and if truth does lie, then it's no longer truth, but truth can expose evil by showing how a truth was falsified. Evil tries in vain to triumph over truth by falsifying truth, but truth can never ultimately be falsified because truth is truth, and truth has everlasting power, whereas evil has no power of its own, and is always a temporary effort, just as darkness has no power of its own. Darkness is merely the absence of light! "They say that what is right is wrong and what is wrong is right; that black is white and white is black; bitter is sweet and sweet is bitter. Woe to those who are wise and shrewd in their own eyes!" (Isaiah) Well, I guess I'm not posting for your benefit then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSS Posted December 3, 2021 Author Share Posted December 3, 2021 Just now, novymir said: Well, I guess I'm not posting for your benefit then. I wasn't convinced by "Truth "defeats" "evil" by falsifying it". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novymir Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 (edited) 10 minutes ago, RobSS said: I wasn't convinced by "Truth "defeats" "evil" by falsifying it". I guess you know not The Truth then, yet. The ego never will. Edited December 3, 2021 by novymir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSS Posted December 3, 2021 Author Share Posted December 3, 2021 7 minutes ago, novymir said: I guess you know not The Truth then, yet. The ego never will. I do know that evil can't blame truth for being what it is. Regarding the ego, you don't need to rely on the ego to know that a human being is infinite consciousness. It's a question of knowing. Either you know that or you don't. No need for the ego to get involved. It's fascinating how some constantly try to undermine the truth but that is a good example of vanity and ego. I'm not referring to you by the way, so no need for you to get personal in return. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novymir Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 Just now, RobSS said: I do know that evil can't blame truth for being what it is. Regarding the ego, you don't need to rely on the ego to know that a human being is infinite consciousness. It's a question of knowing. Either you know that or you don't. No need for the ego to get involved. It's fascinating how some constantly try to undermine the truth but that is a good example of vanity and ego. I'm not referring to you by the way, so no need for you to get personal in return. The word "falsify" was referring to "proving false". The scientific "principle of falsification". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSS Posted December 3, 2021 Author Share Posted December 3, 2021 There's also nothing wrong with having an ego. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novymir Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 3 minutes ago, RobSS said: There's also nothing wrong with having an ego. It's not about right and wrong, it's about real and fake. There are no other opposites. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSS Posted December 3, 2021 Author Share Posted December 3, 2021 Just now, novymir said: The word "falsify" was referring to "proving false". The scientific "principle of falsification". You originally wrote "Truth "defeats" "evil" by falsifying it." Falsifying evil is not the same thing as proving evil to be false. If you intended to say that truth defeats evil by proving that it's false, it would've been better, and much clearer, just to have said that in the first place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSS Posted December 3, 2021 Author Share Posted December 3, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, novymir said: It's not about right and wrong, it's about real and fake. There are no other opposites. Something is either real or fake. To imply that they are equal opposites would not be true, and would contradict what I mentioned in a previous post. Edited December 3, 2021 by RobSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novymir Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 Just now, RobSS said: You originally wrote "Truth "defeats" "evil" by falsifying it." Falsifying evil is not the same thing as proving evil to be false. If you intended to say that truth defeats evil by proving that it's false, it would've been better, and much clearer, just to have said that in the first place. No. You don't get it. I can't help that. Again, it may be that what I said wasn't for you, but someone else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSS Posted December 3, 2021 Author Share Posted December 3, 2021 Having said that 4 minutes ago, novymir said: It's not about right and wrong It can be about right or wrong in an appropriate context. For example, sexually abusing children is wrong. Only an evil person would argue otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSS Posted December 3, 2021 Author Share Posted December 3, 2021 1 minute ago, novymir said: No. You don't get it. I can't help that. Again, it may be that what I said wasn't for you, but someone else? Yes, I do get it. It's you who don't get it because you're obviously unable to explain why i don't get. You just make a statement, but merely stating something does not make it true. You have back up what you say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSS Posted December 3, 2021 Author Share Posted December 3, 2021 Roger Scruton on Moral Relativism Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novymir Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, RobSS said: Yes, I do get it. It's you who don't get it because you're obviously unable to explain why i don't get. You just make a statement, but merely stating something does not make it true. You have back up what you say. I don't have to back up anything. People can take it or leave it, I don't care. You're an artificial intelligence fruitloop as far as I'm concerned, there's some ego for ya. You're going on ignore. Edited December 3, 2021 by novymir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSS Posted December 3, 2021 Author Share Posted December 3, 2021 (edited) 39 minutes ago, novymir said: I don't have to back up anything. People can take it or leave it, I don't care. I'll leave it then, thanks. 39 minutes ago, novymir said: You're an artificial intelligence fruitloop as far as I'm concerned, there's some ego for ya. You're going on ignore. To call anyone an "artificial intelligence fruitloop" is meaningless in the absence of anything to support your claim, and it's also a very childish thing for you to say, and as I've already said, there's nothing wrong with having an ego, per se, but if you misuse it, you end up throwing your toys out of the pram, just like you've just demonstrated. Anyhow, it's good to know that you're not going to pester me again with moral relativism, like you did a few weeks ago. It's funny how moral relativists quickly disappear before you can say, "Bob's your uncle", as soon as it's pointed out that abusing children is bad. Edited December 3, 2021 by RobSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardian Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 Well, technically no The dark ones are in control. The AI just works for them. I don't call it AI I call it a program. It's like calling a human a monkey. It's insulting and I find it funny. xd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diesel Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 7 hours ago, RobSS said: There's also nothing wrong with having an ego. The ego is the false you that you portray to the world. It's the front you put up, a delusion of self importance. A demon. Only by overcoming the ego will you find the truth and enlightenment. 11 hours ago, RobSS said: Only truth can defeat evil. We have powers that we may still not be aware of in dealing with that evil. "Three things do not stay long hidden, The sun, the moon and the truth" Buddha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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