Max Igan says what's now in control is Artificial Intelligence

[RobSS]

4 minutes ago, KingKitty said:

Made me think of...

Do androids dream of electric sheep?

 

 

Good question and very amusing. Depends on the nature of the androids. If the androids are a tool of other-dimensional beings , they probably regard humans as sheep, only fit for being turned into mind-controlled sheep slaves, powered by electricity that only recognise facts!

 

Edited December 1, 2021 by RobSS

[bobb]

Back in the day in Sumeria there were these really big people and some really small people, the big people were called the Anunnaki and the small people is Man, and at the time we were known as the stupids on Planet stupid by the Anunnaki, now the Anunnaki had loads of high tech gizmo's like wheels and string used to make the wheels go round and wrist watches, we know this because they were a bit egotistical and made great big pictures of themselves in Granite, which they called a photograph, and as Arthur C Clark once said 'any sufficiently advanced tech would be indistinguishable from magic on planet Stupid' or something to this effect, now the stupids at the time were hugely gullible and came to the conclusion the Anunnaki were magicians and that their magic must be a function of wearing a big pointy hat and were in fear and awe of these new master's that fell from the sky one day.
Anyway, one day the Anunnaki got a bit pissed off on planet stupid and besides, they had robbed us blind of all our wealth anyway so there was no need to hang out with the stupids any more, and in the night while the stupids were asleep they gathered all their gear and fuked off back to where they came from.
Now when the stupids woke up the next morning and wiped the shit out of their eyes they were startled to find that all the gold and stuff that the stupids had mined out the earth on behalf of the big wizards had gone and so had the big wizards, and this upset them greatly.
So about a week later they started using language to engage in conversation about what had happened, but try as they might to make string and wheels and stuff they failed, then one day someone was walking out in the fields and noticed a foot print in the mud that had baked hard in the hot sun, this bloke dug it up and showed all the villager's what he had found, well as you can imagine they all fell about laughing until one of the women said "wait I could use one of those as a shopping list" and her name was Eve and the bloke they laughed at was Adam(u), and the rest is history.
That is until someone called Zecharia Sitchin (mason) came along and decoded all these square tablets that were imprinted by sticks and sure enough they were found to be shopping lists. Now this is where I jump into the equation and ask "why were the stupids who had come to be known as Man and was still using clay bricks and a stick to do their shopping lists with", because clearly there were shopping centre's in that time, I mean I would have thought pencil and paper was a better option, but no, because they still revered their masters that pissed off one night and yearned for their return, and it was decreed that all forms of writing had to be done on the square tablets and stick in reverence for what they had observed the Anunnaki doing which was typing stuff out on a Samsung Galaxy note 10 which came with a handy stick to write with.
Now I said that the Anunnaki took all their gear with them or so they thought, but I reckon one of the stupids back then was a bit sneaky and stole some of the big wizards stuff and over time they formed a club based on the blood line of the first sneaky bastard that stole all this gear, kept it to themselves, learned how to use it and a class system was born, those that had the sneaky stolen tech were the enforcers of the protocol that everyone else out side their Ka Ba La were to still be called stupid and treated as such.
This class system was well established and enforced between those that had to write on clay bricks and a stick whilst the upper class were busy playing with their stolen toys and trying to master over time, and indeed they did and had even exceeded some of this stolen tech, by employing the same techniques the big wizards had used in the beginning to get everyone else to do all the work for them, so it was quickly realised that degrees of "need to know shit" had to come into existence to keep the game going without letting the stupids know what they were up to, and thus securing even more power for themselves and this lead to the compartmentalisation of the stupids who still to this day think that Government is the best thing ever, which brings us back to today where the secret societies and nasty bastards on planet stupid are enacting their plan for world domination of Mankind with whom they still regard as the stupids, and this Epoch was two years last Wednesday ago when they decided to go live with the antikythera device known as a Quantum Computer managed by A.I. software computing.
Now this leads me to think that if we do not get to the bottom of this nonsense thats going on, we can declare ourselves to be well and truly fuked in our Quantum rabbit holes, but despair not, as I have pointed out before, we are early to this gig, so we have plenty of time to say to the those on Planet stupid, you need to really think this over a bit about why you are allowing yourselves to bow to the fear porn, and why the fuk are you allowing yourselves to be injected with an unknown substance, could it be you are really stupid.

Not bad by someone labelled as a suitcase, by someone labelled as T Spoon.

[RobSS]

30 minutes ago, bobb said:

Back in the day in Sumeria there were these really big people and some really small people, the big people were called the Anunnaki and the small people is Man, and at the time we were known as the stupids on Planet stupid by the Anunnaki, now the Anunnaki had loads of high tech gizmo's like wheels and string used to make the wheels go round and wrist watches, we know this because they were a bit egotistical and made great big pictures of themselves in Granite, which they called a photograph, and as Arthur C Clark once said 'any sufficiently advanced tech would be indistinguishable from magic on planet Stupid' or something to this effect, now the stupids at the time were hugely gullible and came to the conclusion the Anunnaki were magicians and that their magic must be a function of wearing a big pointy hat and were in fear and awe of these new master's that fell from the sky one day.
Anyway, one day the Anunnaki got a bit pissed off on planet stupid and besides, they had robbed us blind of all our wealth anyway so there was no need to hang out with the stupids any more, and in the night while the stupids were asleep they gathered all their gear and fuked off back to where they came from.
Now when the stupids woke up the next morning and wiped the shit out of their eyes they were startled to find that all the gold and stuff that the stupids had mined out the earth on behalf of the big wizards had gone and so had the big wizards, and this upset them greatly.
So about a week later they started using language to engage in conversation about what had happened, but try as they might to make string and wheels and stuff they failed, then one day someone was walking out in the fields and noticed a foot print in the mud that had baked hard in the hot sun, this bloke dug it up and showed all the villager's what he had found, well as you can imagine they all fell about laughing until one of the women said "wait I could use one of those as a shopping list" and her name was Eve and the bloke they laughed at was Adam(u), and the rest is history.
That is until someone called Zecharia Sitchin (mason) came along and decoded all these square tablets that were imprinted by sticks and sure enough they were found to be shopping lists. Now this is where I jump into the equation and ask "why were the stupids who had come to be known as Man and was still using clay bricks and a stick to do their shopping lists with", because clearly there were shopping centre's in that time, I mean I would have thought pencil and paper was a better option, but no, because they still revered their masters that pissed off one night and yearned for their return, and it was decreed that all forms of writing had to be done on the square tablets and stick in reverence for what they had observed the Anunnaki doing which was typing stuff out on a Samsung Galaxy note 10 which came with a handy stick to write with.
Now I said that the Anunnaki took all their gear with them or so they thought, but I reckon one of the stupids back then was a bit sneaky and stole some of the big wizards stuff and over time they formed a club based on the blood line of the first sneaky bastard that stole all this gear, kept it to themselves, learned how to use it and a class system was born, those that had the sneaky stolen tech were the enforcers of the protocol that everyone else out side their Ka Ba La were to still be called stupid and treated as such.
This class system was well established and enforced between those that had to write on clay bricks and a stick whilst the upper class were busy playing with their stolen toys and trying to master over time, and indeed they did and had even exceeded some of this stolen tech, by employing the same techniques the big wizards had used in the beginning to get everyone else to do all the work for them, so it was quickly realised that degrees of "need to know shit" had to come into existence to keep the game going without letting the stupids know what they were up to, and thus securing even more power for themselves and this lead to the compartmentalisation of the stupids who still to this day think that Government is the best thing ever, which brings us back to today where the secret societies and nasty bastards on planet stupid are enacting their plan for world domination of Mankind with whom they still regard as the stupids, and this Epoch was two years last Wednesday ago when they decided to go live with the antikythera device known as a Quantum Computer managed by A.I. software computing.
Now this leads me to think that if we do not get to the bottom of this nonsense thats going on, we can declare ourselves to be well and truly fuked in our Quantum rabbit holes, but despair not, as I have pointed out before, we are early to this gig, so we have plenty of time to say to the those on Planet stupid, you need to really think this over a bit about why you are allowing yourselves to bow to the fear porn, and why the fuk are you allowing yourselves to be injected with an unknown substance, could it be you are really stupid.

Not bad by someone labelled as a suitcase, by someone labelled as T Spoon.

 

Yes, they regards as as the 'stupids'. We're also known as the 'dreamers'. I like your story-telling style. In olden days, before the advent of television, people probably used to entertain themselves much more by telling each other stories, and it gave greater meaning to life and pleasure.

 

 

 

 

[RobSS]

18 hours ago, Truthspoon said:

 

Facts are the things which are imprinted in reality and do not change. We use them to measure our reality.

 

 

This is such a profound insight. In one sentence you've written a kernel of truth that whole libraries of books have tried to explain. I'm not going to go into why because I know that you know and understand what you've written, and I want to keep what I want to write minimal, otherwise we'll get lost in the the trees.

 

When I awakened this morning, I suddenly realised what the issue is. In this thread, you've mentioned three things that stand out, but before I address that, I think what you wrote above is very important. I agree, we do need facts to measure our reality, but if everything in the universe is energy, how can we use material instruments to measure what a fact is? What can we use?

 

As everything in the universe is energy, it's necessary to use ethereal, archetypal symbols as the basis for our facts. Once we've established what those are, we can then have a foundation, and a place of security that we can return to, before we go out and explore our environment, without getting lost and going insane.

 

Something, though, is still preventing us from leaving our place of security, and blocking our path of exploration. Let's call this the "black magician". The black magician keeps us under his control by preventing us realising the reality that can heal us and restore our infinite powers. The black magician, however, works with symbols because, of course, he knows the nature of reality. In order to heal and get in touch with our infinite power, we have to overcome the black magician and address the symbology, but that requires us to have the courage to look at what the black magician doesn't want us to see.

 

As I mentioned, when I awakened this morning, I realised there are three things you've mentioned that stand out.. I post three pictures of the three things, in symbolic form, here now, and will leave them for while or so. if you'd like to comment, please do. I'll wait to see that you've been online. I'll then assume you'll have seen this post. Here goes...

 

Symbol #1 (the ego)

 

 

Symbol #2 (the ring of fire & the void)

 

 

Symbol #3 (Ilya from the Star Trek film about AI - a Brotherhood symbol for the Queen of heaven, the goddess of the Ancient Babylonian Mystery School)

 

 

 

Edited December 2, 2021 by RobSS

[bobb]

2 hours ago, RobSS said:

 

This is such a profound insight. In one sentence you've written a kernel of truth that whole libraries of books have tried to explain. I'm not going to go into why because I know that you know and understand what you've written, and I want to keep what I want to write minimal, otherwise we'll get lost in the the trees.

 

When I awakened this morning, I suddenly realised what the issue is. In this thread, you've mentioned three things that stand out, but before I address that, I think what you wrote above is very important. I agree, we do need facts to measure our reality, but if everything in the universe is energy, how can we use material instruments to measure what a fact is? What can we use?

 

As everything in the universe is energy, it's necessary to use ethereal, archetypal symbols as the basis for our facts. Once we've established what those are, we can then have a foundation, and a place of security that we can return to, before we go out and explore our environment, without getting lost and going insane.

 

Something, though, is still preventing us from leaving our place of security, and blocking our path of exploration. Let's call this the "black magician". The black magician keeps us under his control by preventing us realising the reality that can heal us and restore our infinite powers. The black magician, however, works with symbols because, of course, he knows the nature of reality. In order to heal and get in touch with our infinite power, we have to overcome the black magician and address the symbology, but that requires us to have the courage to look at what the black magician doesn't want us to see.

 

As I mentioned, when I awakened this morning, I realised there are three things you've mentioned that stand out.. I post three pictures of the three things, in symbolic form, here now, and will leave them for while or so. if you'd like to comment, please do. I'll wait to see that you've been online. I'll then assume you'll have seen this post. Here goes...

 

Symbol #1 (the ego)

 

 

Symbol #2 (the ring of fire & the void)

 

 

Symbol #3 (Ilya from the Star Trek film about AI - a Brotherhood symbol for the Queen of heaven, the goddess of the Ancient Babylonian Mystery School)

 

 

 

AAWW, I wanted a go at that, never mind, here is what I would have put anyway:
1. That's a spear so it's straight to the point.
2. That's a picture of my Quantum rabbit hole on some days, and yes it does look as it feels, and as Johnny Cash once sung "it burns burns burns the ring of fire, the ring of fire", and did you know that Haemorrhoid cream gets rid of bags under your eyes, just make sure you don't use a second hand tube.
3. That's an advert for Strepsils for a sore throat.

[RobSS]

1 hour ago, bobb said:

AAWW, I wanted a go at that, never mind, here is what I would have put anyway:
1. That's a spear so it's straight to the point.
2. That's a picture of my Quantum rabbit hole on some days, and yes it does look as it feels, and as Johnny Cash once sung "it burns burns burns the ring of fire, the ring of fire", and did you know that Haemorrhoid cream gets rid of bags under your eyes, just make sure you don't use a second hand tube.
3. That's an advert for Strepsils for a sore throat.

 

It looks like he may not to want to discuss things, which is fine. I like conversation and having discussions, but I fully understand that not everyone does.

 

Thanks for your comical retorts to the three symbols. Well done for the fist observation, you hit the nail right on the head. Regarding the second, the beauty of a circle, with an empty centre, is that it can mean whatever the beholder invests it with. The third and final comment was the funniest!

 

[bobb]

Well you may think it to be a comical piss take but in fact I am rather proving a point using humour interspersed with observational critical thinking and interpretations on subject matters that people take far too seriously for their own good, oh look it's a pyramid, does this mean we are not alone, bingo, now go build your own, and thus people have willingly been lead to believe in the fear porn because it gives them a chance to bash everyone else over the head like we are in Hitler's forth Reich or summat.
A.I is nothing to fear but rather laugh at it, as it will never interpret humour to any degree, and thus prove their is no soul in this monstrosity being launched onto a fearful public, but again there is the word magic being deployed by the arrogant Bastards who think they have a God given right to do to you anything they wish, but you must consent first, and please recognise that the only tools they have to back up their word magic is fear because magic only exist in the heads of the believers, sorry children santa clause does not exist because i killed him, poof and the magics gone.

[RobSS]

16 minutes ago, bobb said:

Well you may think it to be a comical piss take but in fact I am rather proving a point using humour interspersed with observational critical thinking and interpretations on subject matters that people take far too seriously for their own good, oh look it's a pyramid, does this mean we are not alone, bingo, now go build your own, and thus people have willingly been lead to believe in the fear porn because it gives them a chance to bash everyone else over the head like we are in Hitler's forth Reich or summat.
A.I is nothing to fear but rather laugh at it, as it will never interpret humour to any degree, and thus prove their is no soul in this monstrosity being launched onto a fearful public, but again there is the word magic being deployed by the arrogant Bastards who think they have a God given right to do to you anything they wish, but you must consent first, and please recognise that the only tools they have to back up their word magic is fear because magic only exist in the heads of the believers, sorry children santa clause does not exist because i killed him, poof and the magics gone.

 

With respect, I've never said that AI is anything to fear, and I've mentioned in various posts that fear is false evidence appearing real, so I'm not sure why you keep bringing up the subject that AI isn't something to fear.

 

I do think that some people take symbolism far too seriously, but you haven't explained why I've taken the symbolism in the Star Trek film too seriously. All you've done is make a statement, but you haven't given any reasoning for how you came to that conclusion. Why do you think the symbolism in Star Trek has no merit? Why is ego symbolism something not worth discussing? Why is ring of fire symbolism something to be dismissed, when philosophers such as Alan Watts have made very interesting observations about it? Why is your observation about the ring better than his? Why do you think that the Brotherhood symbol for the Queen of Heaven is not worthy of exploration and something only to make a cheap jibe at?

 

If you're not interested in the interpretation of symbols, fine, but if you're not interested, why get involved in the discussion? I try to stick only to topics I'm interested in.

 

 

[bobb]

54 minutes ago, RobSS said:

I'm not sure why you keep bringing up the subject that AI isn't something to fear.

Well I guess it's up to you if you want to fear it or not, I on the other hand do not, because I have no intentions of merging with it, as a control grid that can shut me out, hahahaha I laugh at the idea, more than one way to skin a cat.

 

54 minutes ago, RobSS said:

but you haven't explained why I've taken the symbolism in the Star Trek film too seriously

Well the thing is, it was based on imagination of what could be possible/probable, and for me I love SciFi it keeps the mind alive, but I also live in the real world that says all of this is a part of Nature and the Laws of Physics so the idea of something being possible is only limited by Natures bounty, all we are on is journey of Discovery, ohhh that's interesting now how do take it apart, mmm I need that for my souped up toaster.

 

54 minutes ago, RobSS said:

you haven't given any reasoning for how you came to that conclusion

See above

[bobb]

59 minutes ago, RobSS said:

Why is ego symbolism something not worth discussing

It very much is and there's far too much of it going on in this World of ours it needs to be challenged as the destructive force that it is.

 

59 minutes ago, RobSS said:

Why is ring of fire symbolism something to be dismissed

Because you're in it and you are playing a starring role, who knew.

 

59 minutes ago, RobSS said:

Queen of Heaven is not worthy of exploration and something only to make a cheap jibe at

So ok there is a Queen of Heaven, and your point is what, enslave yourself or something, makes no sense at all.

Edited December 2, 2021 by bobb

[bobb]

59 minutes ago, RobSS said:

you're not interested in the interpretation of symbols

I am interested in them, for the TRUTH, not made up nonsense to beat you over the head with.

[bobb]

Sophia I think she goes by it's the etymology of Sophistry, making up shit and stuff.

[bobb]

Remember there are degrees of "need to know shit" if you know something it's more likely because they want you to know, unless you're an original thinker, when people say to you "you need to think outside the box" an enlightened mind would say "what box, you're talking complete coffolloxs" but no does because of FEAR.

Edited December 2, 2021 by bobb

[RobSS]

10 minutes ago, bobb said:

Well I guess it's up to you if you want to fear it or not, I on the other hand do not, because I have no intentions of merging with it, as a control grid that can shut me out, hahahaha I laugh at the idea, more than one way to skin a cat.

 

 

I had already stated that there's nothing to fear. I said it years ago, long before yo posted on a David Icke forum and I've never thought differently. Did you miss the comment that fear is only false reality appearing real?

 

10 minutes ago, bobb said:

 

Well the thing is, it was based on imagination of what could be possible/probable, and for me I love SciFi it keeps the mind alive, but I also live in the real world that says all of this is a part of Nature and the Laws of Physics so the idea of something being possible is only limited by Natures bounty, all we are on is journey of Discovery, ohhh that's interesting now how do take it apart, mmm I need that for my souped up toaster.

 

 

If you're a materialist and only believe in 5 sense reality, that's your prerogative. I'm a Christian, so I believe in realities that actually do exist in reality beyond material world. Symbolism is a part of that reality, which is why Jesus Christ also used symbolism, allegories and parables to get his message across, but even he acknowledged that not all his "seeds of knowledge" would fall on fertile ground.  There you go - more symbolism!

 

 

 

[RobSS]

11 minutes ago, bobb said:

It very much is and there's far too much of it going on in this World of ours it needs to be challenged as the destructive force that it is.

 

Okay, if God gave us an ego, why is it bad in and of itself?

 

11 minutes ago, bobb said:

 

RobSS: Why is ring of fire symbolism something to be dismissed?

 

bobb: Because you're in it and you are playing a starring role, who knew.

 

 

I'm not sure I understand your reply. Are so saying I should be dismissed because I have an ego? Do you have an ego, should you also be dismissed?

 

11 minutes ago, bobb said:

 

So ok there is a Queen of Heaven, and your point is what, enslave yourself or something, makes no sense at all.

 

 

You're guessing with regards what I could have said about the Queen of Heaven, but your guess is incorrect. 

 

 

[bobb]

1 minute ago, RobSS said:

Did you miss the comment that fear is only false reality appearing real

Fear is not a false reality it has a purpose of fight or flight.

 

3 minutes ago, RobSS said:

I'm a Christian, so I believe in realities that actually do exist in reality beyond material world

Hooray so am I, now what do we do, have a pissing contest or something, oh i know lets compare trouser snakes.

 

4 minutes ago, RobSS said:

If you're a materialist and only believe in 5 sense reality

Pah 5 senses, your limiting your imagination again.

[RobSS]

14 minutes ago, bobb said:

I am interested in them, for the TRUTH, not made up nonsense to beat you over the head with.

 

Why is it made up? Is the ego not a real thing? Was Alan Watts. for example, wrong about the insights he had regarding the symbol? How can you make fun of the Queen of Symbolism even before anything has been said about it? You want to scoff even before anyone has said anything. Okay, I get that you want to be funny!

 

[bobb]

4 minutes ago, RobSS said:

Okay, if God gave us an ego, why is it bad in and of itself?

It is not, it is a survival mechanism, but in a world of ooodles of stuff it has now been inflated out of all proportion and is being used negatively against you.

Edited December 2, 2021 by bobb

[RobSS]

15 minutes ago, bobb said:

Sophia I think she goes by it's the etymology of Sophistry, making up shit and stuff.

 

I wasn't going to bring up the topic of Sofia, so this is a bit of a straw man argument - a misrepresentation of an opinion or viewpoint designed to be as easy as possible to refute.

 

[RobSS]

2 minutes ago, bobb said:

It is not, it is a survival mechanism, but in a world of ooodles of stuff it has now been inflated out of all proportion and is being used negatively against you.

 

The choice may have been mistaken, but the choosing was not.

 

[bobb]

1 minute ago, RobSS said:

symbol

Look Symbols convey lots of info in conservative constructs and is very easy to miss interpret and then have it be used against you by those with ulterior motives, me on the other hand I cut out the unnecessary to get to it's core

[bobb]

1 minute ago, RobSS said:

The choice may have been mistaken, but the choosing was not.

Umm that went right over my head you need to expand a bit more.

[RobSS]

Just now, bobb said:

Look Symbols convey lots of info in conservative constructs and is very easy to miss interpret and then have it be used against you by those with ulterior motives, me on the other hand I cut out the unnecessary to get to it's core

 

Referring to the three symbols, why are you making mocking even before anyone has even tried to have a discussion about what they mean? 

 

[bobb]

Just now, RobSS said:

 

Referring to the three symbols, why are you making mocking even before anyone has even tried to have a discussion about what they mean? 

 

Whoa hang on neddy it was you that could not wait to get your smarmy arsed interpretations out before anyone else did.

[bobb]

1 minute ago, RobSS said:

mocking

There is a difference between Mocking and employing humour, mocking is a ego centric thing of, ohh look at me i am perfect and know all.