Max Igan says what's now in control is Artificial Intelligence

[bobb]

1 hour ago, Truthspoon said:

Well if this example of artificial intelligence is anything to go by I don't think we have anything to fear:

 

 

 

 

HA HA HA, send Brenda more life, we now know whose writing the script for the knob jockeys in Government, shit my pants NO, but pissed myself laughing.

[bobb]

So everyone is aware of this monstrosity, The Georgia Guidestones, I think this is an admission of the limitation of this system that they are all jizzed up about, the 500 million statement, with Quantum computers they exploit the Physics of the Electron that can be in two places at once, this gives rise to a very unique type of computer but limited in scope of what it can perform, basically being able to predict outcomes based on probability but not possibility with an accuracy to be navigable by it's operators, steer the ship so to speak, and that aint you and me, except to be used as pawns if the system requires to be able to alter an outcome in their preference, couple that with A.I software as an interpreter of what it see's, and you now have a sort of governance system where those plugged into it become nodes of the system and that's where the limitation creeps in as it would have to KNOW all the probabilities as a start point, in complexity it would have to know all the states of atoms molecules etc at an instance such as transporter tech in star trek, this i find a very interesting proposition and like to run thought experiment's in my head from time to time as there is fukall on the tv, the One-electron universe theory.

[bobb]

This is relevant sounds very similar in nature, Buried Deep Inside The Walls Of The Vatican A Machine Called The "Chronovisor" Could It Be Real?

[RobSS]

Been reading some of the replies in this thread. The message in the Star Trek film goes over a lot of peoples' heads who think they're so clever. The cleverest comment dismissing it was to say Spock isn't real, well I never, doh!

 

There are plenty other films that explore the reality of AI. Here's a list:

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_artificial_intelligence_films

 

 

Edited December 1, 2021 by RobSS

[bobb]

To be honest I think that Gene Rodenberry may have been a modern day Prophet, I mean pretty much everything in Star Trek now exists, and he had a very Faith based background, and so it would seem, a lot of difficulties with the Bible.

[RobSS]

Just now, bobb said:

To be honest I think that Gene Rodenberry may have been a modern day Prophet, I mean pretty much everything in Star Trek now exists, and he had a very Faith based background, and so it would seem, a lot of difficulties with the Bible.

 

The film's message is similar to Kubrick's film "2001". I still can't work out who's side he was on. When one really goes into the nature of reality, there's a very fine line between Christian and Pagan belief. Elon Musk and co. are definitely on the wrong tracks with where they're heading. I don't know that much about Gene Roddenberry's background, but I suspect he was a transhumanist. Nevertheless, there's still a lot of truth in the Star Trek: The Motion Picture that reveals what the AI agenda is.

 

[Truthspoon]

A lot of Rodenberry stuff was part of the CIA psyop: the Council of 9.

 

https://www.truthspoon.com/p/blog-page_14.html

 

 

There was something odd going on and had been for years in my life, right now it was all coming to a head and it involved Freemasonry and the occult and I had heard very few good things of either of the two. The experience I had was a mixture of psychic and physical symptoms, for instance there was often a severe cramping pain in the back of the head concurrent with these visions, this is the part of the brain associated with vision, but what would ‘trigger’ this pain and the resultant visions? These experiences started in real earnest after submitting to initiation by the ‘hidden masters’. The hidden masters are not the figment of Madame Blavatsky’s imagination but they are quite real and the initiate is followed everywhere by a ghostly entourage who are continually whispering dangerous suggestions and indeed, prompting these ‘visions’ by some unseen influence on the person’s brain.

“A very interesting point worth mentioning at this time is that the circulation of the nervous force within man puts him in communication with the universe.”

Notice the phrase ‘being put in communication with the universe’. Doesn’t it all sound wonderfully exciting and like some jolly intergalactic adventure? The kind we all dreamed about as kids from watching the endless repeats of Star Wars, Star-Trek and all the other mystically inspired shenanigans designed no doubt for the very purpose of playing on this human desire to meet and communicate with our alien brothers from a galaxy far far away.

 

The Freemasonic Star-Trek Empire.

Well sometimes, in fact surprisingly often on this small lonely planet of ours, fact and fiction meet in a most disconcerting manner. Take for example the popular and long running TV show Star Trek. Gene Rodenberry was the genius behind this remarkable programme which seemed to seamlessly combine the prophecy of technological advances of a distant future, while always highlighting themes prevalent on the Earth of the present day along with characters from our history and the same endless moral conundrums which have plagued our greatest thinkers. With one crucial difference, the humans of the future always get it right. 

They are humble yet wise with human sagacity: often the crew of the Enterprise seem to foil even the demi-gods they meet, it is clear that this is a utopian vision of the future but it is not entirely based on fiction for Gene Rodenberry had a very interesting life and found himself eager to help humanity to live out the fictional reality he had created. He became involved in a strange cult known as the ‘Council of 9’, what appeared to be a race of aliens using human beings of great power, like Uri Geller (who later dismissed them as a ‘civilisation of clowns’[iii]) to announce their imminent return to Earth in a fleet of flying saucers, but what actually appeared to be, after a series of suspicious deaths, nothing more than an extraordinarily devious, complex and extremely unusual CIA mind control programme which seemed to harness elements of the supernatural and strange human psychic abilities[iv]. Some of the odd characters involved in this odd mixture of the occult and the secret services are still active in the alternative media today: people like Richard Hoagland and his fake ‘Face on Mars’ scam, along with Palden Jenkins (crop circle guru who advises his followers to allow themselves to be possessed by aliens when they enter a crop circle) who admitted to me in his hubris that he was presently advising the Bilderbergers. Even global-warming hot-airbag Al Gore is said to be influenced by ‘The Nine’. This CIA occult mind control is still very much active it seems, despite the noble efforts of one of its past protégées, Uri Geller[v], to help expose it as a fraud, albeit a very occluded and mysterious one.

Now to return to this wonderfully empowering phrase ‘communication with the universe’, this is in the very best tradition of the wishes and prophecies of Gene Rodenberry and his Council of Nine friends. But does it really mean we will all become brave Captain Kirks flying around the galaxy banging green skinned alien chicks and saving worlds from their own folly with a little touch of human nous? No of course it doesn’t. What they really mean by contacting the universe is contacting spirits.

Straightaway it doesn’t sound quite as much fun does it? If you’re in any doubt at this stage that contacting spirits may not be fun then you need only look into the tragic but extremely instructive example of poor Joe Fisher in his book The Siren Call of the Hungry Ghosts[vi] in which he details being the victim of very complex and prolonged deception, not at the hands of spiritualists, who he says were just as much dupes as he, but in fact the architects of deception in this instance were the spirits themselves who for some reason, wanted at all costs to be involved in any way in the human realm, to the extent that they would invent personalities and tell people what they wanted to hear, in order to create an existence for themselves. I’ll say nothing more except to profoundly recommend that you read the book. Also be aware that the author became so intimidated by the spirits who apparently became angry at being exposed as being behind some kind of inter-dimensional con game, that he took his own life. So already those contacting the galaxy shenanigans don’t seem to be quite so much fun. Turn off the engines Scotty: I’m staying-in tonight.

I can testify to the experience of having spirits take rather an over active interest in one’s activities. This was all within the timeframe of my whacky three weeks of enlightened madness. I found myself becoming more and more psychically tuned to a higher frequency, I felt less need to eat, sleep and started feeling giddy and lightheaded. I had all the symptoms of the enlightenment or ascension, or Kundalini and you will be able to find this ‘symptom list’ in one of the thousand occult themed new-age websites out there in cyber-web land. As day turned to night I began to feel increasingly aware of a stronger and stronger feeling of fear. It was something invisible which seemed to be moving closer to me with the falling darkness.

At this time I became aware of their real agents of control for the first time. Prior to this I has encountered their street theatrics whereby themes prevalent in my life, such as my attachment to the ideals of Jesus and early Christianity would be externalised and I would emerge from the tube station to see someone ranting about Christians going to heavens and non believers being sent to hell, a kind of ridiculous pastiche of Christianity designed to turn me against ideas of religion. These people were easy to spot. Some people can smell a fake, a provocateur and a phoney from a mile off and I am one of those people. As I walked out the man winked at me. Such events happened several times during this period. There are many more Masons out there on the streets than most people ever dream of. They constantly patrol other people and watch their own members, they will only let you know if they want you to know and the only people they can afford to let into the secret are their own members who they police mercilessly.

Edited December 1, 2021 by Truthspoon

[RobSS]

1 minute ago, Truthspoon said:

A lot of Rodenberry stuff was part of the CIA psyop: the Council of 9.

 

https://www.truthspoon.com/p/blog-page_14.html

 

 

There was something odd going on and had been for years in my life, right now it was all coming to a head and it involved Freemasonry and the occult and I had heard very few good things of either of the two. The experience I had was a mixture of psychic and physical symptoms, for instance there was often a severe cramping pain in the back of the head concurrent with these visions, this is the part of the brain associated with vision, but what would ‘trigger’ this pain and the resultant visions? These experiences started in real earnest after submitting to initiation by the ‘hidden masters’. The hidden masters are not the figment of Madame Blavatsky’s imagination but they are quite real and the initiate is followed everywhere by a ghostly entourage who are continually whispering dangerous suggestions and indeed, prompting these ‘visions’ by some unseen influence on the person’s brain.

“A very interesting point worth mentioning at this time is that the circulation of the nervous force within man puts him in communication with the universe.”

Notice the phrase ‘being put in communication with the universe’. Doesn’t it all sound wonderfully exciting and like some jolly intergalactic adventure? The kind we all dreamed about as kids from watching the endless repeats of Star Wars, Star-Trek and all the other mystically inspired shenanigans designed no doubt for the very purpose of playing on this human desire to meet and communicate with our alien brothers from a galaxy far far away.

 

The Freemasonic Star-Trek Empire.

Well sometimes, in fact surprisingly often on this small lonely planet of ours, fact and fiction meet in a most disconcerting manner. Take for example the popular and long running TV show Star Trek. Gene Rodenberry was the genius behind this remarkable programme which seemed to seamlessly combine the prophecy of technological advances of a distant future, while always highlighting themes prevalent on the Earth of the present day along with characters from our history and the same endless moral conundrums which have plagued our greatest thinkers. With one crucial difference, the humans of the future always get it right. 

They are humble yet wise with human sagacity: often the crew of the Enterprise seem to foil even the demi-gods they meet, it is clear that this is a utopian vision of the future but it is not entirely based on fiction for Gene Rodenberry had a very interesting life and found himself eager to help humanity to live out the fictional reality he had created. He became involved in a strange cult known as the ‘Council of 9’, what appeared to be a race of aliens using human beings of great power, like Uri Geller (who later dismissed them as a ‘civilisation of clowns’[iii]) to announce their imminent return to Earth in a fleet of flying saucers, but what actually appeared to be, after a series of suspicious deaths, nothing more than an extraordinarily devious, complex and extremely unusual CIA mind control programme which seemed to harness elements of the supernatural and strange human psychic abilities[iv]. Some of the odd characters involved in this odd mixture of the occult and the secret services are still active in the alternative media today: people like Richard Hoagland and his fake ‘Face on Mars’ scam, along with Palden Jenkins (crop circle guru who advises his followers to allow themselves to be possessed by aliens when they enter a crop circle) who admitted to me in his hubris that he was presently advising the Bilderbergers. Even global-warming hot-airbag Al Gore is said to be influenced by ‘The Nine’. This CIA occult mind control is still very much active it seems, despite the noble efforts of one of its past protégées, Uri Geller[v], to help expose it as a fraud, albeit a very occluded and mysterious one.

Now to return to this wonderfully empowering phrase ‘communication with the universe’, this is in the very best tradition of the wishes and prophecies of Gene Rodenberry and his Council of Nine friends. But does it really mean we will all become brave Captain Kirks flying around the galaxy banging green skinned alien chicks and saving worlds from their own folly with a little touch of human nous? No of course it doesn’t. What they really mean by contacting the universe is contacting spirits.

Straightaway it doesn’t sound quite as much fun does it? If you’re in any doubt at this stage that contacting spirits may not be fun then you need only look into the tragic but extremely instructive example of poor Joe Fisher in his book The Siren Call of the Hungry Ghosts[vi] in which he details being the victim of very complex and prolonged deception, not at the hands of spiritualists, who he says were just as much dupes as he, but in fact the architects of deception in this instance were the spirits themselves who for some reason, wanted at all costs to be involved in any way in the human realm, to the extent that they would invent personalities and tell people what they wanted to hear, in order to create an existence for themselves. I’ll say nothing more except to profoundly recommend that you read the book. Also be aware that the author became so intimidated by the spirits who apparently became angry at being exposed as being behind some kind of inter-dimensional con game, that he took his own life. So already those contacting the galaxy shenanigans don’t seem to be quite so much fun. Turn off the engines Scotty: I’m staying-in tonight.

I can testify to the experience of having spirits take rather an over active interest in one’s activities. This was all within the timeframe of my whacky three weeks of enlightened madness. I found myself becoming more and more psychically tuned to a higher frequency, I felt less need to eat, sleep and started feeling giddy and lightheaded. I had all the symptoms of the enlightenment or ascension, or Kundalini and you will be able to find this ‘symptom list’ in one of the thousand occult themed new-age websites out there in cyber-web land. As day turned to night I began to feel increasingly aware of a stronger and stronger feeling of fear. It was something invisible which seemed to be moving closer to me with the falling darkness.

At this time I became aware of their real agents of control for the first time. Prior to this I has encountered their street theatrics whereby themes prevalent in my life, such as my attachment to the ideals of Jesus and early Christianity would be externalised and I would emerge from the tube station to see someone ranting about Christians going to heavens and non believers being sent to hell, a kind of ridiculous pastiche of Christianity designed to turn me against ideas of religion. These people were easy to spot. Some people can smell a fake, a provocateur and a phoney from a mile off and I am one of those people. As I walked out the man winked at me. Such events happened several times during this period. There are many more Masons out there on the streets than most people ever dream of. They constantly patrol other people and watch their own members, they will only let you know if they want you to know and the only people they can afford to let into the secret are their own members who they police mercilessly.

 

That's already very well known, but that doesn't mean to say it doesn't reveal aspects of the AI agenda. Just to dismiss it out of hand by saying Spock isn't real was a bit of a knee-jerk reaction, rather than a thoughtful comment.

 

[Truthspoon]

Where you're getting confused Rob is that you're only looking at the tiptoe of these cultural movers and shakers.... but now we're dealing with the place their social-destruction dance has taken us.

All of Hollywood and everyone in the music-industry have worked for the past 60 years to destroy western civilisation by tiptoeing us into our own demise..

 

It was cleverly done and I admit I never saw it coming....... 

 

But here we are at the final destination.... Now I can see how it was all done..

 

Bravo lads very clever.... but also very evil and destructive for the planet and the human race...... to take it away from those who created civilisation and deliver it to those who only seem to have expertise in destroying it.

 

 

 

 

Edited December 1, 2021 by Truthspoon

[RobSS]

9 minutes ago, Truthspoon said:

Where you're getting confused Rob is that you're only looking at the tiptoe of these cultural movers and shakers.... but now were a dealing with the place their social-destruction dance had taken us.

All of the Hollywood and everyone in the music-industry have worked for the past 60 years to destroy western civilisation by tiptoeing us into our own demise..

 

It was cleverly done and I admit I never saw it coming....... 

 

But here we are at the final destination.... Now I can see how it was all done..

 

Bravo lads very clever.... but also very evil and destructive for the planet and the human race...... to take it away from those who created civilisation and deliver it to those who only seem to have expertise in destroying it.

 

 

Unfortunately, you're deceiving yourself, TruthSpoon. It's you who have been confused. You've been in denial for a long time that we're coming to an end of an Age. The reality is that we stand on the brink of either a NWO, or God's kingdom. It seems like you've got the message at last. I've been aware of this for over 45 years.

 

The destruction of Western civilisation that you speak of, and which is heading towards a climax is the much prophesied about Apocalypse that leads to Armageddon that Jesus Christ foresaw. It doesn't mean the end of the world, but only the end of Satan's worldly system of things. I think you're slowly getting the picture, anyway.

 

 

 

Edited December 1, 2021 by RobSS

[Truthspoon]

4 minutes ago, RobSS said:

 

Unfortunately, you're deceiving yourself, TruthSpoon. It's you who have been confused. You've been in denial for a long time that we're coming to an end of an Age. The reality is that we stand on the brink of either a NWO, or God's kingdom. It seems like you've got the message at last. I've been aware of this for over 45 years.

 

The destruction of Western civilisation that you speak of, and which is heading towards a climax is the much prophesied about Apocalypse that leads to Armageddon that Jesus Christ foresaw. It doesn't mean the end of the world, but only the end of Satan's worldly system of things. I think you're slowly getting the picture, anyway.

 

 

 

 

 No Rob. I base my views on facts, not science fiction.

 

 

[RobSS]

Just now, Truthspoon said:

 

 No Rob. I base my views on facts, not science fiction.

 

 

 

You didn't state what your facts were, only that Spock isn't real and now you say it's only science fiction, but any fool already knows that, so what's your point?

 

The point is that these films are full of symbolism. You may find the symbolism upsetting and difficult to deal with, which is why I suspect you like to side-sweep what they actually reveal, but a great deal can be learned from symbolism.

 

Great authors, like C.S. Lewis and J.R.R. Tolkien also used symbolism in their works. Yes, their works were fiction too, just like Star Trek, but they also contained a lot of symbolism, allegory and truths that we can learn from to better understand the nature of reality, the human condition, and the world we live in, but I suppose in order to be consistent, you dismiss Lewis and Tolkien too? That's the level your logic is operating on at the moment, which is why I think you're still a bit confused.

 

It's not just great literary authors who use their stories to convey important truths and messages... important truths and messages can also be found in films, plays, music dramas and even paintings.

 

By your confused logic, I suppose you think films like "Dark City" and "They Live" are also fictional, and so should also be ignored?

 

 

 

 

 

 

[bobb]

19 minutes ago, RobSS said:

The destruction of Western civilisation that you speak of, and which is heading towards a climax is the much prophesied about Apocalypse that leads to Armageddon that Jesus Christ foresaw. It doesn't mean the end of the world, but only the end of Satan's worldly system of things. I think you're slowly getting the picture, anyway

This I agree with, but I am not sure about Armageddon, the Apocalypse is a revealing of truth which I have to say seems to be happening, this scamdemic for a start, it would seem a war has started and the first casualty of every war is the truth, but in this offensive (not war yet) move every one knows something don't add up, and nobody believe's the government for one second, the veil it would seem is slipping.

[Truthspoon]

It's not much use revealing the truth if everyone is dead or enslaved though is it?

 

I'm sure the people who lived in Communist Russia saw the TRUTH of what they were dealing with...... but they couldn't do much about it....

 

 

Edited December 1, 2021 by Truthspoon

[RobSS]

1 minute ago, bobb said:

This I agree with, but I am not sure about Armageddon, the Apocalypse is a revealing of truth which I have to say seems to be happening, this scamdemic for a start, it would seem a war has started and the first casualty of every war is the truth, but in this offensive (not war yet) move every one knows something don't add up, and nobody believe's the government for one second, the veil it would seem is slipping.

 

How do you understand the word "Armageddon"? I ask because to different people it can mean different things. I use the term in the context of the Bible. Unfortunately, a lot of people don't understand the Bible and have adopted the wordly false belief that "Armageddon" means the end of life on the planet, and because the word means that to so many people, the cabal can use "Armageddon" in films to instil fear in people and in so doing turn people away from Jesus Christ's true message.

 

 

[RobSS]

2 minutes ago, Truthspoon said:

It's not much use revealing the truth if everyone is dead or enslaved though is it?

 

I'm sure the people who lived in Communist Russia saw the TRUTH of what they were dealing with...... but they couldn't do much about it....

 

 

I find your comment very interesting because you seem to be saying that TRUTH is best kept hidden because people can't deal with it. Is that a fair summary of what you're saying? If that is what you're saying, I'm sure people in the secretive societies would 100% agree with you, so please clarify.

 

 

[Truthspoon]

4 minutes ago, RobSS said:

 

I find your comment very interesting because you seem to be saying that TRUTH is best kept hidden because people can't deal with it. Is that a fair summary of what you're saying? If that is what you're saying, I'm sure people in the secretive societies would 100% agree with you, so please clarify.

 

 

 

 

I think it is self evident and require no clarification.

 

Any limitations or filters you are imposing on my statement are your own.

 

Those in hell know the truth of their condition....

 

I question your apocalyptical fervor and that you think this is the be-all-and-end-all of this story......

 

The human experience is much more nuanced.

 

For you everything seems to revolve around the apocalypse....

 

It is  condition you need to get over and return to normal human functionality...

 

Makes you no different to the secret society maniacs in that regard.

 

 

 

Edited December 1, 2021 by Truthspoon

[bobb]

3 minutes ago, RobSS said:

and have adopted the wordly false belief that "Armageddon" means the end of life on the planet, and because the word means that to so many people, the cabal can use "Armageddon" in films to instil fear in people and in so doing turn people away from Jesus Christ's true message

I agree completely here also, so the bible is open to interpretation this I am sure of but this word Armageddon as you say has been contorted and twisted to the point everyone thinks of total annihilation, but what if it were to suggest something less destructive, a final conflict yes, maybe a person's perspective is changed from one of 'I can not see the wood for the tree's' to ' oh look ' the wood is the tree' I am over simplifying here.

[Truthspoon]

7 minutes ago, bobb said:

I agree completely here also, so the bible is open to interpretation this I am sure of but this word Armageddon as you say has been contorted and twisted to the point everyone thinks of total annihilation, but what if it were to suggest something less destructive, a final conflict yes, maybe a person's perspective is changed from one of 'I can not see the wood for the tree's' to ' oh look ' the wood is the tree' I am over simplifying here.

 

Saint John who wrote the Apocalypse was likely suffering from carbon dioxide poisoning which lead to his visions. He retired to a cave where he had these 'visions' of the Apocalypse.

 

This was a common means of Oracles of the ancient world to obtain their visions... Their Temples were usually situated in geologically active areas and there was often a cave where the Oracle would enter and be deliberately taken to the point of near death by breathing in fumes from the deep Earth.

 

I do not consider this divinely inspired.

 

History has shown that the prophecies of the pagan Oracles were unreliable therefore I consider any such 'Christian' Oracle who obtains his visions in the same way to be equally potentially unreliable. 

The problem is that this has become a self fulfilling prophecy. The world is deliberately destroying itself in order to follow this dubious tradition and, as Bob Marley said 'fulfill the book'.

 

That is a personal opinion but I stand by it.

Edited December 1, 2021 by Truthspoon

[RobSS]

Just now, Truthspoon said:

 

 

I think it is self evident and require no clarification.

 

Any limitations or filters you are imposing on my statement are your own.

 

Those in hell know the truth of their condition....

 

It's interesting that you won't answer the question, should people be told the truth?

 

I think people do want to know the truth and that truth is the only thing that wake people up. 

 

The truth is the only thing that can release people from either hell or purgatory.

 

As Jesus Christ said, "And you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.” Even David Icke says exactly the same. He wrote a book with the same title.

 

 

Just now, Truthspoon said:

 

I question your apocalyptical fervor and that you think this is the be-all-and-end-all of this story......

 

 

There's nothing wrong with having a fervour for the revealing of truth, which is actually what the word "apocalypse" means. So I make no apologies for having a fervour for the revealing of truth.

 

Just now, Truthspoon said:

 

The human experience is much more nuanced.

 

The human condition is even more nuanced once it begins to come to terms with the truth.

 

 

 

 

[bobb]

4 minutes ago, Truthspoon said:

 

Saint John who wrote the Apocalypse was likely suffering from carbon dioxide poisoning which lead to his visions. He retired to a cave where he had these 'visions' of the Apocalypse.

 

This was a common means of Oracles of the ancient world to obtain their visions... Their Temples were usually situated in geologically active areas and there was often a cave where the Oracle would enter and be deliberately taken to the point of near death by breathing in fumes from the deep Earth.

 

I do not consider this divinely inspired.

 

History has shown that the prophecies of the pagan Oracles were unreliable therefore I consider any such 'Christian' Oracle who obtains his visions in the same way to be equally potentially unreliable. 

The problem is that this has become a self fulfilling prophecy. The world is deliberately destroying itself in order to follow this dubious tradition and, as Bob Marley said 'fulfill the book'.

 

That is a personal opinion but I stand by it.

Or mushroom's, ever wonder why the Fly Agaria is legal like Alcohol.

Edited December 1, 2021 by bobb
crap spelling

[Truthspoon]

I always stick to facts Rob and you always resort to semantic games and science fiction.... 

 

You have created your own fantasy world.... Enjoy it.

But outside your bubble it has no reality.

 

 

[Truthspoon]

2 minutes ago, bobb said:

Or mushroom's, ever wonder why the Fly Agaria is legal like Alcohol.

 

I tried Fly Agarics once...they just made me vomit.... I even tried Panther cap.... had no effect.

 

The hallucinogenic properties of Fly Agarics is a myth.

 

 

 

Edited December 1, 2021 by Truthspoon

[RobSS]

3 minutes ago, Truthspoon said:

 

Saint John who wrote the Apocalypse was likely suffering from carbon dioxide poisoning which lead to his visions. He retired to a cave where he had these 'visions' of the Apocalypse.

 

This was a common means of Oracles of the ancient world to obtain their visions... Their Temples were usually situated in geologically active areas and there was often a cave where the Oracle would enter and be deliberately taken to the point of near death by breathing in fumes from the deep Earth.

 

I do not consider this divinely inspired.

The problem is that this has become a self fulfilling prophecy. The world is deliberately destroying itself in order to follow this dubious tradition and, as Bob Marley said 'fulfill the book'.

 

That is a personal opinion but I stand by it.

 

Of course you don't accept the book of Revelation because you don't like to come to terms with the truth being revealed. C.S. Lewis's book, "The Final Battle", contains the same truths as the book of Revelation, but I know you like to dismiss anything that you don't agree with as mere fiction. So what about the films, "They Live" and "Dark City"? Are they fiction too? Their message is the same as the book of Revelation. You're obviously one of those Christians who only picks and chooses bits of the Bible you want to believe in. Jesus Christ didn't do that.

 

[bobb]

4 minutes ago, Truthspoon said:

they just made me vomit.

One Man's vomit is another Man's vision, mostly on a Friday night in town.

Edited December 1, 2021 by bobb
added smiley for more visionary delight's