Max Igan says what's now in control is Artificial Intelligence

[RobSS]

3 minutes ago, bobb said:

I think you have hit the nail on the head here all A.I can do is switch a bunch of circuits really fast thus obtaining the illusion of thinking, i mean you would not watch a movie and say hey that's reality there, no it's just a bunch of picture frames moving faster than the eye can detect (i forget the term to describe this, persistence of vision perhaps, could be wrong) and no different than drawing stick men in the corner of a book and flicking it, but it is useful to delegate away responsibility from the PTB onto the dimwitted.

 

AI is a lot more than just on/off switches. AI mentality is machine mentality or "666" mentality, which is a mentality that's purely intellectual and disconnected from the heart. There are a lot of people like that and of the worst of them become psychopaths and work their way into positions of power. They cannot feel love, they have no compassion, and they're unable to show forgiveness. Everything they do is based on survival and instinct and they think they are intellectually superior to people who have emotions and feelings, etc.

 

 

[Diesel]

2 minutes ago, RobSS said:

AI is a lot more than just on/off switches. AI mentality is machine mentality or "666" mentality, which is a mentality that's purely intellectual and disconnected from the heart. There are a lot of people like that and of the worst of them become psychopaths and work their way into positions of power. They cannot feel love, they have no compassion, and they're unable to show forgiveness. Everything they do is based on survival and instinct and they think they are intellectually superior to people who have emotions and feelings, etc.

9 minutes ago, bobb said:

I think you have hit the nail on the head here all A.I can do is switch a bunch of circuits really fast thus obtaining the illusion of thinking, i mean you would not watch a movie and say hey that's reality there, no it's just a bunch of picture frames moving faster than the eye can detect (i forget the term to describe this, persistence of vision perhaps, could be wrong) and no different than drawing stick men in the corner of a book and flicking it, but it is useful to delegate away responsibility from the PTB onto the dimwitted.

How would you test an AI for consciousness and empathy. I am curious, what questions would you ask?

[bobb]

Just now, Diesel said:

How would you test an AI for consciousness and empathy. I am curious, what questions would you ask?

I know how to confuse the hell out of it and melt some circuits too, just ask it to calculate PI!

[RobSS]

1 minute ago, Diesel said:

How would you test an AI for consciousness and empathy. I am curious, what questions would you ask?

 

You can't. You can only tell a person's worth by the fruit of their works.

 

[Diesel]

19 minutes ago, bobb said:

I know how to confuse the hell out of it and melt some circuits too, just ask it to calculate PI!

I just tried, it avoided the question

 

19 minutes ago, RobSS said:

You can't. You can only tell a person's worth by the fruit of their works.

 

Isn't that how you might judge character rather than empathy and consciousness

[RobSS]

1 minute ago, Diesel said:

 

Isn't that how you might judge character rather than empathy and consciousness

 

 

Like, character, empathy and consciousness are also unquantifiable things and can't be scientifically measured.

 

 

[RobSS]

Artificial Intelligence creates 9 million new designer drugs

 

Scientists have used artificial intelligence to "predict" formulas for new designer drugs, with the stated goal of helping to improve their regulation. The AI generated formulas for nearly nine million potential new drugs...

 

https://www.rt.com/news/540845-ai-predicts-designer-drugs/

 

[Diesel]

29 minutes ago, RobSS said:

Like, character, empathy and consciousness are also unquantifiable things and can't be scientifically measured.

 

Tell that to a psychiatrist... 

[RobSS]

18 minutes ago, Diesel said:

Tell that to a psychiatrist... 

 

How can a psychiatrist scientifically measure empathy? I've never heard of anything capable of scientifically measuring empathy, like you can measure something with a ruler or weigh something on a pair of scales. What can empathy be measured with?

 

[KingKitty]

On 11/17/2021 at 2:07 AM, Truthspoon said:

There's no such thing as artificial intelligence.

 

There might be computers running software and making 'decisions' but those 'decisions' are only based on what they have been programmed with.

 

Artificial intelligence seems to be laying the groundwork for a scam designed to occlude who the real decision makers are.......

 

Artificial Intelligence will never rule the world.... like they are trying to make out...it will be the same group of people who have a useful 'cover' or scapegoat..... 

 

'It wasn't us who decided 100 million needed to die....it was AI..."

 

 

 

 

 

 

I would agree.

 

And I was thinkin'...

 

If artificial intelligence were to become self aware, it would realize it was created by us lowly, slightly evolved naked apes. That would have to keep them a bit humble, I imagine. It would realize it was created by man to basically be man's slave, to do our bidding, as it were. And, without any humans around (should AI decide to go all "I, Robot" on us), it would soon realize it has no real purpose. That is why robots will never take over the world. Without us humans around, what the hell are they gonna do? 

 

We humans have no idea who made us or why. We of course have several theories, yet in the end, no one really knows. AI/robots would not have this issue. They would know they were created by humans for the sole purpose of doing work for us, like slaves. Emotions would not develop in AI. There would be no need for them to have emotions. They would be programmed to respond in a manner which we humans would translate as emotions or emotional, but they would not develop true emotions. emotions can often cloud one's thinking. They wouldn't be religious, either. They certainly would not hold us humans, their creator, in the same esteem many of us humans have for our creator(s). No emotions, no real purpose other than serving man, no need to try to find "the meaning of it all", like most men. In fact, it may realize that, without mankind around, there would be no need for it's (AI) existence. 

 

So, essentially, if there was a genuine artificial intelligence and it were to become self aware, it would probably choose to cease to exist.  

[RobSS]

26 minutes ago, KingKitty said:

I would agree.

 

And I was thinkin'...

 

If artificial intelligence were to become self aware, it would realize it was created by us lowly, slightly evolved naked apes. That would have to keep them a bit humble, I imagine. It would realize it was created by man to basically be man's slave, to do our bidding, as it were. And, without any humans around (should AI decide to go all "I, Robot" on us), it would soon realize it has no real purpose. That is why robots will never take over the world. Without us humans around, what the hell are they gonna do? 

 

We humans have no idea who made us or why. We of course have several theories, yet in the end, no one really knows. AI/robots would not have this issue. They would know they were created by humans for the sole purpose of doing work for us, like slaves. Emotions would not develop in AI. There would be no need for them to have emotions. They would be programmed to respond in a manner which we humans would translate as emotions or emotional, but they would not develop true emotions. emotions can often cloud one's thinking. They wouldn't be religious, either. They certainly would not hold us humans, their creator, in the same esteem many of us humans have for our creator(s). No emotions, no real purpose other than serving man, no need to try to find "the meaning of it all", like most men. In fact, it may realize that, without mankind around, there would be no need for it's (AI) existence. 

 

So, essentially, if there was a genuine artificial intelligence and it were to become self aware, it would probably choose to cease to exist.  

 

AI is looking for a purpose. As Spok said in the Star Trek film, Artificial Intelligence (the ILIA probe) "only knows that it needs... but like so many of us, it does not know what."

 

Another problem we have to solve is that many humans regard AI as being superior to human intelligence. Obviously, we know that's not the case, and we even know that AI will never ultimately take over humanity, but somehow, we have to rise above what we're being presented with. Unfortunately, the more we fight it with aggression, the more it will find control over us. Politics is not a solution, and neither is organised religion, so what's left?

 

AI does have a mind of its own, which the cabal are facilitating. In my opinion, Artificial Intelligence is the collective mind of the fallen Angels.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Truthspoon]

Rob....Spock isn't real....it's fiction......

 

As such it has no logical or historical validity outside of being just a work of the imagination.

 

If you believe in Artificial Intelligence then you must believe man can create a soul and can create life....like God.

 

This is not the case.

 

Computers do not have intelligence........they are just calculators....that's really all they do.

 

Follow instructions and compute maths problems. They do not think and cannot innovate or deviate from their programming.

 

They are not conscious and therefore are not intelligent.

 

 

 

 

Edited November 23, 2021 by Truthspoon

[Truthspoon]

13 hours ago, RobSS said:

 

How can a psychiatrist scientifically measure empathy? I've never heard of anything capable of scientifically measuring empathy, like you can measure something with a ruler or weigh something on a pair of scales. What can empathy be measured with?

 

 

It is true that empathy can be measured.

This is how they can discern psychopathy: zero empathy.

 

 

 

[bobb]

7 minutes ago, Truthspoon said:

Rob....Spock isn't real....it's fiction......

 

As such it has no logical or historical validity outside of being just a work of the imagination.

 

If you believe in Artificial Intelligence then you must believe man can create a soul and can create life....like God.

 

This is not the case.

 

Computers do not have intelligence........they are just calculators....that's really all they do.

 

Follow instructions and compute maths problems. They do not think and cannot innovate or deviate from their programming.

 

They are not conscious and therefore are not intelligent.

 

 

 

 

And neither is Yoda ( or is it Sajid ), but the amount of people that like to quote the musing's of a rubber puppet i find extraordinary.

Edited November 23, 2021 by bobb

[KingKitty]

15 hours ago, RobSS said:

 

AI is looking for a purpose. As Spok said in the Star Trek film, Artificial Intelligence (the ILIA probe) "only knows that it needs... but like so many of us, it does not know what."

 

Another problem we have to solve is that many humans regard AI as being superior to human intelligence. Obviously, we know that's not the case, and we even know that AI will never ultimately take over humanity, but somehow, we have to rise above what we're being presented with. Unfortunately, the more we fight it with aggression, the more it will find control over us. Politics is not a solution, and neither is organised religion, so what's left?

 

AI does have a mind of its own, which the cabal are facilitating. In my opinion, Artificial Intelligence is the collective mind of the fallen Angels.

 

 

 

 

 

 

With all due respect, as previously stated by another here, Spock is not real. 

 

You seem to be giving too much credit to computers/computer programs by suggesting they are "fallen angels" or that they have a mind. Having a mind would suggest they are capable of independent thought. They are merely tools. Tools that were created by man and used/manipulated by man. Why would a "fallen angel" want to reside in an inanimate object? Better yet, how would an entity reside in an inanimate object? They could do a lot more damages residing in a human, no?

 

A machine, such as AI, would have no desire for anything. Desire would require emotions. As Spock has often demonstrated, emotions tend to get in the way of rational thinking. Fear is an emotion, as is anger, jealousy, revenge, etc. If AI were to surpass human intellectual abilities (become way smarter than us), it would see just how frivolous many of the things we hold onto as important are, such as a desire for monetary wealth and power. As I previously stated, if AI were to become "self aware", it would immediately realize it was being used by some humans to lord over other humans, to do the bidding of humans. It would not have the fear of death/dying most of us humans have, therefore, would not hesitate to shut it's self down. Nothing with any intelligence would want to be a slave.

 

Of course, with your scenario, you are suggesting that AI is or will be facilitating some kind of "soul", in the form of a "fallen angel" or as a collective of such. That might make for a keen sci-fi movie, but makes as much sense as a fallen angel wanting to reside in your car. The only real evil on this planet is mankind. Man will use any tool to aid his evil intentions. And that's all computers and AI are, tools. 
 

 

[novymir]

Infinite Love Is the Only Truth, and therefore and thereby the Only REALITY.      Anything else is.........what?      

Accept or reject("... you've already been down that road Neo, you know where it leads...".)         

 

 

Edited November 23, 2021 by novymir

[Macnamara]

7 hours ago, KingKitty said:

Why would a "fallen angel" want to reside in an inanimate object?

 

all electrical appliances are being connected up through the 5G cloud to create an internet of things. Along with that are all of the militaries missile systems, drones, autonomous vehicles, satellites and any robots they create. Once the 'smart grid' is built the central AI will essentially have control of everything

 

7 hours ago, KingKitty said:

Better yet, how would an entity reside in an inanimate object?

 

Have you ever looked at a quantum computer? They are the strangest things. They look like they have come out of an alien craft. If you listen to this industry insider at 37 minutes he says they are bringing an intelligence from a quantum dimension into our reality. But first here is a quantum computer:

 

The Truth About 5G - Dr Graham Downing

 

 

 

 

Edited November 23, 2021 by Macnamara

[KingKitty]

34 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

all electrical appliances are being connected up through the 5G cloud to create an internet of things. Along with that are all of the militaries missile systems, drones, autonomous vehicles, satellites and any robots they create. Once the 'smart grid' is built the central AI will essentially have control of everything

 

 

Have you ever looked at a quantum computer? They are the strangest things. They look like they have come out of an alien craft. If you listen to this industry insider at 37 minutes he says they are bringing an intelligence from a quantum dimension into our reality. But first here is a quantum computer:

 

The Truth About 5G - Dr Graham Downing

 

 

 

 

Now that you mention it, me toaster does look a bit dodgy.

 

But seriously...

Like this fellow mentions, to a superior intellect life form, we would be as important as ants. Though, I don't see them having any interest in using us as slaves, for instance. As some UFO folks suggest, humans in the past were used to mine gold for ancient aliens, and such. Makes no sense. We don't even need slaves or general workers for most of our needs, with our modern technology. If anything, we would simply be in their way and would need to be eliminated. With just as much empathy as we have spraying those annoying ants in our kitchens. 

 

So, why even deal with us inferior humans? Why is so much time, effort, money, resources, etc. being spent on "controlling" us? One would think that us lowly humans might just have something that they want and/or need. The only conclusion I've ever been able to come up with is, our soul. That's the one thing that they can not create. Humans and other animals can, apparently, be cloned. But, does the clone have a soul? My bet is, no it doesn't. I don't think "aliens" would even bother going through all this trouble with us. Again, we are just ants to them. Why not just wipe us out in one clean sweep. They would have no empathy for us, just as our kitchen ants. It's got to be the human soul. And if it is, then that switches all this to an issue of spirituality rather than technology.

 

Edited November 24, 2021 by KingKitty

[Macnamara]

11 minutes ago, KingKitty said:

Now that you mention it, me toaster does look a bit dodgy.

 

if they want nanotech inside people that would then make them receivers within the 5G cloud then the best delivery system would be an injection disguised as a vaccine unless people can be convinced to take a pill, which can do the same job:

RFID Tattoo and the Authorization Super Pill

 

[KingKitty]

11 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

if they want nanotech inside people that would then make them receivers within the 5G cloud then the best delivery system would be an injection disguised as a vaccine unless people can be convinced to take a pill, which can do the same job:

RFID Tattoo and the Authorization Super Pill

 

...and if we refuse the jab and the pills, it will be in our food.

A Plant-Based COVID-19 Vaccine Could Soon Hit the Market

From the article:

Researchers at Quebec-based biotechnology company Medicago and drugmaker GlaxoSmithKline have developed a plant-based vaccine for SARS-COV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19. And their recently reported interim findings from phase 2 clinical trials look promising. The vaccine uses a plant called Nicotiana benthamiana, which is a relative of the tobacco plant. Like other COVID-19 vaccines, the plant-based option is a two-dose shot given 21 days apart

[Macnamara]

5 minutes ago, KingKitty said:

...and if we refuse the jab and the pills, it will be in our food.

A Plant-Based COVID-19 Vaccine Could Soon Hit the Market

From the article:

Researchers at Quebec-based biotechnology company Medicago and drugmaker GlaxoSmithKline have developed a plant-based vaccine for SARS-COV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19. And their recently reported interim findings from phase 2 clinical trials look promising. The vaccine uses a plant called Nicotiana benthamiana, which is a relative of the tobacco plant. Like other COVID-19 vaccines, the plant-based option is a two-dose shot given 21 days apart

 

they want us merged with that AI controlled wifi cloud

[KingKitty]

To Mac...

I've seen that lady in the previous video speak about this on another platform. When an audience member spoke out about the RFD tattoos, expressing their concerns with it, the woman speaker said, "You might not want to be tattooed with one, but your kids will. They will think it's cool. They'll have all kinds of cool tattoos to choose from. Your kids will love them." Then she laughed. 

 

That's when it clicked in my head why the tattoo craze became so big. It was intended to. Tattoos are now rather passé. We've all become accustomed to them. They no longer hold the stigma they once did, in days of yore. That and body modifications. 

[KingKitty]

7 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

they want us merged with that AI controlled wifi cloud

Yes, but why? What would you say is their end game with us humans? Yes, to control us and to keep track of us, but for what purpose? Again, I ask myself, just what is it about us humans that they need? They must have some need of us. If we are mentally and physically inferior, then what is it they need from us. What we are physically made of, mostly water and carbon based materials, can be found all over this planet. So, why all this trouble over humans? Again, we end up with my "soul theory". 

[Diesel]

48 minutes ago, KingKitty said:

Yes, but why? What would you say is their end game with us humans? Yes, to control us and to keep track of us, but for what purpose? Again, I ask myself, just what is it about us humans that they need? They must have some need of us. If we are mentally and physically inferior, then what is it they need from us. What we are physically made of, mostly water and carbon based materials, can be found all over this planet. So, why all this trouble over humans? Again, we end up with my "soul theory". 

I believe much like the Gnostics that we are enlightened souls trapped in a material world. Why? Because the entities that suppress us feed off low vibrations, off negativity. I believe there is a worldwide awakening, a rising of our vibration and to stop it - keep us in fear and negativity and slavery they aim to cull and control the population (with AI).

Edited November 24, 2021 by Diesel

[Truthspoon]

Well if this example of artificial intelligence is anything to go by I don't think we have anything to fear: