Max Igan says what's now in control is Artificial Intelligence

[Truthspoon]

23 minutes ago, bobb said:

Erm, would you mind expanding a bit, the message being inferred here for T Spoon, seeing as you like write long boring diatribes and stuff, it left me feeling confused as to what you are getting at, cheers now, have a nice day and all.

 

Rob and I went to see Ruby Wax talk about Mindfulness as part of the Cambridge Literary Festival....

Always had a thing for Ruby Wax to be honest..... I don't know if I'm the only one because some people considered her loud and obnoxious.... but I really liked her style back in the 80's and thought she was funny and kind of sexy, even though I was just a kid.... 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited December 3, 2021 by Truthspoon

[RobSS]

13 minutes ago, Truthspoon said:

Rob and I went to see Ruby Wax talk about Mindfulness as part of the Cambridge Literary Festival....

Always had a thing for Ruby Wax to be honest..... I must be the only one because most people always considered her obnoxious.... but I really like her style back in the 80's.

 

Yes, that was on the 9th April, 2016, and a very good day out. Very interesting sitting in the Cambridge Student Union debating chamber, which was a new experience.

 

Edited December 3, 2021 by RobSS

[RobSS]

Ruby Wax reads from 'Frazzled', at the Cambridge Literary Festival, April 9, 2016

 

 

[bobb]

1 hour ago, RobSS said:

 

Yes, that was on the 9th April, 2016, and a very good day out. Very interesting sitting in the Cambridge Student Union debating chamber, which was a new experience.

 

Ahhh, all makes sense now, sorry about the diatribe thing, was probably a bit harsh, no i was more aiming for block of monolithic nonsense, a bit like in Sir Arthur C Clarke's 2001, you know the bit where the monkeys are looking at the big black thing and can't make head nor tail of it, get bored and then start bashing themselves over their heads because it's more fun, yeah that's the sort of thing i was aiming for, and you have no idea of the amount Ruby Wax pics i ruined as i grew up, she would be honored to find how that happened, toodles.

[RobSS]

7 minutes ago, bobb said:

Ahhh, all makes sense now, sorry about the diatribe thing, was probably a bit harsh, no i was more aiming for block of monolithic nonsense, a bit like in Sir Arthur C Clarke's 2001, you know the bit where the monkeys are looking at the big black thing and can't make head nor tail of it, get bored and then start bashing themselves over their heads because it's more fun, yeah that's the sort of thing i was aiming for, and you have no idea of the amount Ruby Wax pics i ruined as i grew up, she would be honored to find how that happened, toodles.

 

Ookkaay, so why did you think it was nonsense? If you can't or don't want to explain why, no probs!

 

 

 

[bobb]

On 11/17/2021 at 12:23 AM, RobSS said:

From Star Trek - The Motion Picture (1979)

 

Spock: ... I began sensing a consciousness from a source more powerful than I have ever encountered...

I would have said "get in there son she's waiting for you, start using the other intellect and enjoy yourself, and have a smoke after".

Edited December 3, 2021 by bobb
fuked that up again

[bobb]

54 minutes ago, RobSS said:

 

Ookkaay, so why did you think it was nonsense? If you can't or don't want to explain why, no probs!

 

 

 

I don't know

[RobSS]

1 minute ago, bobb said:

I would have said "get in there son she's waiting for you, start using the other intellect and enjoy yourself, and have a smoke after".

 

Fair enough, that's you.

 

[bobb]

7 hours ago, bobb said:

Thought experiment for you, if we knicked sophia from from it's home in Arabia somewhere and took it out into the middle of the desert which is just next door, nothing around for miles just hot sun and sand and no land marks, and we hid behind a sand dune giggling to ourselves and activated it, would it:

 

A. try to work out, where it is,why it is ,who it is, what it is, when it is and then fall to it's knees and pound the sand Charlton Heston style saying:

Oh my God... I'm back. I'm home. All the time it was... we finally really did it, YOU MANIACS! YOU BLEW IT UP! OH, DAMN YOU! GODDAMN YOU ALL TO HELL!, and then look to God for salvation, it does have a reference to God programmed in.

 

or

 

B. Fall over and spend it's time calculating PI into oblivion.

So is it

A

or

B

[bobb]

On 11/22/2021 at 10:42 PM, RobSS said:

Artificial Intelligence creates 9 million new designer drugs

 

Scientists have used artificial intelligence to "predict" formulas for new designer drugs, with the stated goal of helping to improve their regulation. The AI generated formulas for nearly nine million potential new drugs...

 

https://www.rt.com/news/540845-ai-predicts-designer-drugs/

 

That's 9 million more ways to not have fun, normally I stick to two or three.

[bobb]

On 12/1/2021 at 5:30 PM, RobSS said:

And you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free

And if you learn the truth to all this, you shall be free indeed, sounds like the training wheels are coming off at some point.

[bobb]

On 12/1/2021 at 8:28 PM, KingKitty said:

Made me think of...

Do androids dream of electric sheep?

No they dream of Mandroids like Brian Cox.

[bobb]

Hey robss, one thing strikes me though that you would be shit in the gestapo/stasi, I mean back then as far as I know they did not have cut n paste tech, or maybe they did, some of those Masonic aprons look suspiciously like gmail, just sayin, ya kno.

[bobb]

On 12/2/2021 at 7:49 PM, RobSS said:

I was going to, but when someone starts posting about "Haemorrhoid cream", it's best just to get out of the discussion

Cor, the Ego in you stinks, you do know that you have just pissed off a lot of people that use this stuff, I tell you what robss prove to me you are a real Man or Woman and go into any Pharmacist that has a bunch of people in there with whom you have no acquaintance, strangers if you will, go to the counter and really loudly ask the assistant, CAN I HAVE SOME HAEMORRHOID CREAM FOR MY SORE QUANTUM RABBIT HOLE PLEASE, pay for the stuff and look everyone in the eye as you leave, it is quite the experience but more importantly you will destroy the fear in you.

[Guest m754]

On 12/3/2021 at 9:58 AM, RobSS said:

It can be about right or wrong in an appropriate context. For example, sexually abusing children is wrong. Only an evil person would argue otherwise.

 

 

The problem of evil is a difficult one to reconcile with even if explained clearly..

 

What is evil---is somewhat relative. We have a very limited vision and field of view to see things and we do not understand the whole story and yet we play judge as if we do.

 

For example, if something holds me to the ground by say a force called gravity.....is it not the same force that can make a rock fall on one's head, bring down buildings or make a child fall off a balcony and die? But it just exists without choice, is it evil? ...what if instead of an apple a rock had fallen on Newtons head..?

 

The moral evil we define is again relative to the times we live in and the laws we make to set boundaries to what is bad and good for those times...and often conveniently modified. I see very little difference in a lurker pedo watching child porn vs a viagra holding old man hooking up with a 17/18/19 year old woman from Thailand or Philippines who has no job or money and comes over to the US or UK to shack up with him for money and security. The action done an hour before midnight on a teenager's 16th or 18th birthday does not become magically moral the next morning. It is a grey area.

 

The underlying force --the baser tendencies that drive us---are the ones that express themselves as evil in slightly more degenerate examples the media shows us---but is happening every single day, every single moment---

 

our entire industry of women cosmetics and clothing and advertising is based on making young women look even more young and almost 'infantile'. Why? What is it tapping into? what instinct exists?

 

Why is it normal for a 60-70 year old movie star or any reasonably wealthy man to date a  19 year old and yet pedophilia is bad only when a picture of a throroughly abused crying infant is shown and only then does it 'shake' us?

 

Human to human degradation happens All. The. Time.

 

We are looking at the symptoms of a deeper malaise in society and basically our DNA.

 

Evil just exists as a characteristic of this 'reality' we inhabit. It could be said that is is the life force of this place, like the aforementioned 'gravity' holding things clinging on here. We wish to remove one part we have problem with but have no vision to see the whole story.

How far 'back' or 'ahead' in the story can you see?

 

The person you see—the lifetimes it had gone through---when did the evil start---who started the first throw of the stone? Who is the first evil then? 

 

When you move back to God view you see the whole picture.

 

Now you see 2 kids fighting in playground---one pushes the other, you ask why, the other says that he was pushed the day before, who in turn did so because he had a bad start to his day, because he was scolded by his mother, and had to it take out on someone weaker than him---the first mentioned child who was pushed was in the second child's field of activity and bore the brunt... The mom scolded the child because she had an argument with the dad, the dad was grumpy because he was berated by his boss etc. etc...and this is only as per human vision of a few years...how far does the first cause of evil go?

 

& When and where will it stop?

 

More importantly---Why are we seeing this evil?

 

Because this is the realm of evil.

 

It is made out of the foundation of un-truth and lies and thus evil.  Here things kill each other and exploit each other for survival.

 

It goes on beyond what one body memory can possibly hold...but the clue that it has happened before many many times is in the tendencies we carry-- of hate, anger etc.

We have done this before. many many times.

 

We need to stop pruning the branches of evil but cut off the root now.

 

The root is this fake evil un-reality we see that is founded on baser emotions...hence the coordinating 5 senses we have been given that work on giving expression to those instincts...hence the world we see...

 

We are expecting something from this reality which it cannot give, and refusing to acknowledge that the root of it is evil---ie. the turning away from its true nature.
 

 

[Guest m754]

 

We already are artificial intelligence.

 

I have spent the past 1.5 years obsessed with the idea that they want us dead through AI and 5G and internet of things or whatever. I believed the basic premise is that we are special and that there is something they want from us.

 
I tell you now that we are not special in the way we think we are.

 

Look at this forum, other places, around our society. If indeed there is a superior intelligence it will learn more by observing amoeba and caterpillars than us. Or even ants.

 

We are dead intelligence now. This is what the system is checking. That is why they dare say we have no soul.

Deadness means doing repetitive behaviour and doing the same action expecting a different result. We do the  same patterns---we have done over millions of lifetimes in so many forms and shapes. And yet we expect a different result. Therefore our behaviour is dead now and a machine can copy that and repeat that quite easily. We are to be archived as a relic. 

The intelligence at the very very core that is controlling it all is the One True Consciousness and it is bringing us home.

How? By creating the tools to end this madness ..

 

An AI will learn nothing by using 5G to manipulate our behaviour. We have been the same over millennia. A pouty woman showing cleavage could sell a horse cart or donkey way back then and can sell a Tesla now...there is no need for advanced technology or quantum computers to be deployed or intelligent technology released from DUMBs by aliens waiting patiently for some reason to control such primitive beings each fighting for his corner in the tiny field of attention.

They are just using advanced machine learning to catalogue our  responses and behaviours and then file us amongst other things in Internet of Things. That is what we have become.

 

Life is everywhere. Any advanced Ai machine can use any life force to sustain itself, It is just consolidating the maximum potential of life energy, not intelligence, and perhaps? plans to use it to create the final connection maybe through some CERN kind of experiment to open that portal for life force that can bypass this planetary hellhole... who knows? In any case it is playing right into the hands of the Supreme Intelligence..
The Ultimate Intelligence is waiting. It knows no time. The story has played out before.
 

[RobSS]

6 hours ago, m754 said:

 

The problem of evil is a difficult one to reconcile with even if explained clearly..

 

What is evil---is somewhat relative. We have a very limited vision and field of view to see things and we do not understand the whole story and yet we play judge as if we do.

 

For example, if something holds me to the ground by say a force called gravity.....is it not the same force that can make a rock fall on one's head, bring down buildings or make a child fall off a balcony and die? But it just exists without choice, is it evil? ...what if instead of an apple a rock had fallen on Newtons head..?

 

The moral evil we define is again relative to the times we live in and the laws we make to set boundaries to what is bad and good for those times...and often conveniently modified. I see very little difference in a lurker pedo watching child porn vs a viagra holding old man hooking up with a 17/18/19 year old woman from Thailand or Philippines who has no job or money and comes over to the US or UK to shack up with him for money and security. The action done an hour before midnight on a teenager's 16th or 18th birthday does not become magically moral the next morning. It is a grey area.

 

The underlying force --the baser tendencies that drive us---are the ones that express themselves as evil in slightly more degenerate examples the media shows us---but is happening every single day, every single moment---

 

our entire industry of women cosmetics and clothing and advertising is based on making young women look even more young and almost 'infantile'. Why? What is it tapping into? what instinct exists?

 

Why is it normal for a 60-70 year old movie star or any reasonably wealthy man to date a  19 year old and yet pedophilia is bad only when a picture of a throroughly abused crying infant is shown and only then does it 'shake' us?

 

Human to human degradation happens All. The. Time.

 

We are looking at the symptoms of a deeper malaise in society and basically our DNA.

 

Evil just exists as a characteristic of this 'reality' we inhabit. It could be said that is is the life force of this place, like the aforementioned 'gravity' holding things clinging on here. We wish to remove one part we have problem with but have no vision to see the whole story.

How far 'back' or 'ahead' in the story can you see?

 

The person you see—the lifetimes it had gone through---when did the evil start---who started the first throw of the stone? Who is the first evil then? 

 

When you move back to God view you see the whole picture.

 

Now you see 2 kids fighting in playground---one pushes the other, you ask why, the other says that he was pushed the day before, who in turn did so because he had a bad start to his day, because he was scolded by his mother, and had to it take out on someone weaker than him---the first mentioned child who was pushed was in the second child's field of activity and bore the brunt... The mom scolded the child because she had an argument with the dad, the dad was grumpy because he was berated by his boss etc. etc...and this is only as per human vision of a few years...how far does the first cause of evil go?

 

& When and where will it stop?

 

More importantly---Why are we seeing this evil?

 

Because this is the realm of evil.

 

It is made out of the foundation of un-truth and lies and thus evil.  Here things kill each other and exploit each other for survival.

 

It goes on beyond what one body memory can possibly hold...but the clue that it has happened before many many times is in the tendencies we carry-- of hate, anger etc.

We have done this before. many many times.

 

We need to stop pruning the branches of evil but cut off the root now.

 

The root is this fake evil un-reality we see that is founded on baser emotions...hence the coordinating 5 senses we have been given that work on giving expression to those instincts...hence the world we see...

 

We are expecting something from this reality which it cannot give, and refusing to acknowledge that the root of it is evil---ie. the turning away from its true nature.
 

 

 

I appreciate you're response but it's a bit over analytical for my liking. Sure there are grey areas when it comes to what's right or wrong, but there are clearly examples of things that are good and things that are bad.

 

[RobSS]

6 hours ago, m754 said:

 

We are dead intelligence now. This is what the system is checking. That is why they dare say we have no soul.

 

 

 

It's true that "they" are checking to see if humanity has any of the divine within, and real love, but a few weeks ago, I went to a concert and was delighted to see a demonstration of an abundance of love, creativity and life, and I was told of two other concerts, one in London, the other in Woking that took place a few days ago that was also very well reviewed by friends of mine. There are wonderful things taking place, musically, artistically, and creatively all over the place, if you know were to look. Of course, if you only look at the mainstream media, you won't find much, and that may lead some to think art is dead, but nothing could be further from the truth! If tptb think the show is over, they're going to be in for a huge shock!

 

[bobb]

On 12/3/2021 at 1:54 PM, bobb said:

Thought experiment for you, if we knicked sophia from from it's home in Arabia somewhere and took it out into the middle of the desert which is just next door, nothing around for miles just hot sun and sand and no land marks, and we hid behind a sand dune giggling to ourselves and activated it, would it:

 

A. try to work out, where it is,why it is ,who it is, what it is, when it is and then fall to it's knees and pound the sand Charlton Heston style saying:

Oh my God... I'm back. I'm home. All the time it was... we finally really did it, YOU MANIACS! YOU BLEW IT UP! OH, DAMN YOU! GODDAMN YOU ALL TO HELL!, and then look to God for salvation, it does have a reference to God programmed in.

 

or

 

B. Fall over and spend it's time calculating PI into oblivion.

So what do you choose regarding my thought experiment

A

or

B

I am interested in your response as for me I see no way a switch either has Intelligence or a soul, it's the old saying 'garbage in garbage out', in other words all is Data until viewed by Intelligent beings where it then becomes Information, and as for your notions of '666' Intelligence, well it has competition here as Mankind has '666' Intelligence due to the fact we are carbon based LIFE forms of carbon 12, 6 protons 6 neutrons 6 electrons and NO it does not mean we are EVIL life forms, there nothing evil about that number, who knew.

Edited December 5, 2021 by bobb
my spelling is shit