SimonTV Posted August 18, 2022 Share Posted August 18, 2022 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeylove Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 You need fossil fuels to manufacture electric cars. They also don't work very well in many parts of the world were roads are steep and infrastructure is lacking. And they have low energy returns because of energy density issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bamboozooka Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hegel Schmegel Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 On 11/10/2021 at 4:14 PM, GregC said: I heard that we will have completely eliminated petrol/diesel cars by 2030, bit soon is it not? I thought it was like 2040 when we will stop using diesel/petrol cars? I don't think the Saudis/the Saudi lobby will stand for that. Then again... It's been speculated that fifty years from now the number of Islamists on Earth will so greatly dwarf the technocrats that it will make the rise of even autonomous vehicles turn out to be in all likelihood a fleeting cultural phenomenon, if not an altogether non-starter, as we may very well at this time all be traveling by way of shackles and camel caravans, in this not-too-distant future that these wannabe and rising sharia-enforcers envision for mankind. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talorgan Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 I saw a short clip put out by Max Igan at the ,Crowhouse showing a line of electric buses one caught fire and they were gutted almost instantly, Bit of a fire trap really .I suppose it's the batteries 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddsnsods Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 With all them lord of the rings starlink, just one fuck up & back to stone age. Cyber poly gone pfff.. everything cashless, no moon for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talorgan Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 (edited) It makes me wonder how many times we might have been back to the stone age before ? In right environment and if could shake off the dodgy priest class could be quite cool Edited August 22, 2022 by Talorgan + Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truthblast Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 (edited) On 8/23/2022 at 12:49 AM, Talorgan said: It makes me wonder how many times we might have been back to the stone age before ? In right environment and if could shake off the dodgy priest class could be quite cool What if electric cars SECRETLY BURN GASOLINE, but it happens inside the battery pack where you can't see it??? Edited August 25, 2022 by Truthblast Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonTV Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dickwan Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 1 hour ago, SimonTV said: The Nissan Qashqai 'E-Power' does exactly this - has an electric engine but it's only used to charge a battery; the wheels are driven by electric motors. Not sure what I think about that concept. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingKitty Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 Here in the Golden State, our Governor decreed no more gas vehicles will be sold in our fine state, within the next ten years. Less than a week after his announcement, we, the useless eaters of the state, have been receiving daily e-mail alerts and emergency text alerts to reduce our electric usage during our current heatwave. As of yesterday, they have begun to use gas powered generators to help out the power grid. I am to dump my Mustang for a Prius, but I can't use my air conditioner when the weather is hot? From Breitbart California Experiences Limited Blackouts as Power Demand Hits Record The crisis is not over: authorities have issued another “Flex Alert” for Wednesday, the eighth consecutive such alert, during which consumers are urged to conserve power, including by not charging electric vehicles. The Flex Alert will run from 4:00 p.m. to 9:00 p.m. Energy demand is highest in the afternoon due to the heat; at the same time, power supplies experience a shortfall as solar energy begins to become unavailable. The state has moved rapidly toward solar and wind energy while closing natural gas and nuclear power plants, leading to an energy crisis that officials must resolve as the state moves toward requiring all drivers to purchase electric vehicles after 2035, using 30% more power than the grid currently supplies. Oh well, I'll see ya at the movies... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screamingeagle Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 11 minutes ago, KingKitty said: am to dump my Mustang for a Prius, but I can't use my air conditioner when the weather is hot? yes , it's the same inverted pattern used when they launched plandemic,asimptomatic ect. the end goal is to reduce the movment road trip that took 6h will take 9h or more with a refrigerator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screamingeagle Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 18 hours for 680km with tesla S,a guy told me next time he might as well take a bicycle 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bamboozooka Posted September 8, 2022 Share Posted September 8, 2022 18 hours ago, Dickwan said: The Nissan Qashqai 'E-Power' does exactly this - has an electric engine but it's only used to charge a battery; the wheels are driven by electric motors. Not sure what I think about that concept. not new vauxhall ampera was doing it 10 years ago the bmw i3 came in all electric or range extender flavour with an engine charging the battery car manufacturers like using old tech and calling it new in ads to try to sell something. you hear ads say self charging hybrids as a selling point yet they all self charge when you brake/coast Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dickwan Posted September 8, 2022 Share Posted September 8, 2022 53 minutes ago, bamboozooka said: not new vauxhall ampera was doing it 10 years ago the bmw i3 came in all electric or range extender flavour with an engine charging the battery car manufacturers like using old tech and calling it new in ads to try to sell something. you hear ads say self charging hybrids as a selling point yet they all self charge when you brake/coast Very interesting, I wasn't aware of the Vauxhall Ampera doing this 10 years ago! I only stumbled across the Nissan Qashqai 'E-Power' recently and thought it was novel. I guess there's nowt new under the sun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonTV Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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oddsnsods Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 They are running out of lithium for the battle against climate bollocks. Greta is not amused. 'We don’t have enough' lithium globally to meet EV targets, mining CEO says https://finance.yahoo.com/news/lithium-supply-ev-targets-miner-181513161.html Alarmists house of cards BS is starting to fall.. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k_j_evans Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 On 9/12/2022 at 8:55 PM, oddsnsods said: They are running out of lithium for the battle against climate bollocks. Greta is not amused. 'We don’t have enough' lithium globally to meet EV targets, mining CEO says https://finance.yahoo.com/news/lithium-supply-ev-targets-miner-181513161.html Alarmists house of cards BS is starting to fall.. So the plebs can't drive cars as there aren't enough to go round. Where's the problem? All part of the plan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Owl Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 On 9/12/2022 at 8:55 PM, oddsnsods said: They are running out of lithium for the battle against climate bollocks. Greta is not amused. 'We don’t have enough' lithium globally to meet EV targets, mining CEO says https://finance.yahoo.com/news/lithium-supply-ev-targets-miner-181513161.html Maybe this is a cue to 'discover' a vast source of lithium somewhere "off-world"? Perhaps on the moon, or in one of the asteroids beyond Mars. Thus then begins a new race for investors to funnel billions into 'projects' to 'get that damned lithium here'. 7 hours ago, k_j_evans said: So the plebs can't drive cars as there aren't enough to go round. Where's the problem? All part of the plan And in the meantime, you end up with a classic supply/demand problem, if such electric vehicles cannot be mass-produced, then they will never become as 'affordable' as petrol/diesel vehicles, thus they remain expensive and only affordable to the wealthy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talorgan Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 Wasn't it 2b "only essential vehicles "by 2030 or some such date Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jois Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 (edited) On 9/12/2022 at 8:55 PM, oddsnsods said: They are running out of lithium for the battle against climate bollocks. Greta is not amused. 'We don’t have enough' lithium globally to meet EV targets, mining CEO says https://finance.yahoo.com/news/lithium-supply-ev-targets-miner-181513161.html Alarmists house of cards BS is starting to fall.. He appears to be saying there isn't enough lithium in the USA. Which there may not be. There is enough lithium in the world to replace all the existing cars and more. The major eviromental issue is it requires stripminning and it needs a great many more strip mines that no one is currently building or look likely to build by 2030. So yes unless they get there skates on there will be no lithium for emvs They are of course planning a energy future of using a very finite resource that they need the cooperation of foreign governments to obtain. A bit like petrol The countries that do have it can ration it and Jack the price up many fold a bit like petrol Afghanistan could be getting very rich very soon Edited September 15, 2022 by jois 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Campion Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 (edited) I've not yet seen an electric car pulling a caravan, that'll reduce the range quite a bit. Just imagine what it'll be like in future summer holidays on the M5 down to the west country with all those caravanners crowding the charger facilities at the service stations! Maybe now's a good time to buy shares. Edited September 18, 2022 by Campion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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