Guest Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 16 minutes ago, Sheepy said: I was thinking it was fairly obvious bypass the bastards which we have become rather good at. Exactly what this thread is about. How? With what? But mainly .... How will you remove their fingers from the buttons? Because they will not go quietly! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheepy Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 1 minute ago, ink said: How? With what? But mainly .... How will you remove their fingers from the buttons? Because they will not go quietly! If they were going to go quietly you wouldn't need to be here for one and for two the outline of direct democracy is already in place which at some point this thread will get around too. I am in no rush. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 Just now, Sheepy said: I am in no rush. You are in no rush and have no answers to my very simple questions .... With what will you do this (you won't have the use of the internet, are you going to make your own and how will you stop Starlink?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheepy Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 1 minute ago, ink said: You are in no rush and have no answers to my very simple questions .... With what will you do this (you won't have the use of the internet, are you going to make your own and how will you stop Starlink?) I have also seen it and heard it all before as soon as you dived on this thread, so whatever answer I gave wouldn't quench your thirst. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 Just now, Sheepy said: I have also seen it and heard it all before as soon as you dived on this thread, so whatever answer I gave wouldn't quench your thirst. :) Just give answers .... You want to make this realm 'right' .... so, how will you overcome the few questions asked? If you have no solution to those few questions then as Nobby said .... tis nowt but mental jerking off! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Retriever Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 50 minutes ago, Ween Dwijler said: And with that I don't have the UN or such in mind, but more like some really great thinkers of our time (not Chompy!) from various relevant disciplines in the sciences. Who do you have in mind as "really great thinkers of our time, from relevant disciplines in the sciences" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheepy Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 3 minutes ago, ink said: :) Just give answers .... You want to make this realm 'right' .... so, how will you overcome the few questions asked? If you have no solution to those few questions then as Nobby said .... tis nowt but mental jerking off! Nobby was easily led it doesn't run for everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jus Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 Haven't the foundations along these lines been thought through already... https://www.universal-community-trust.org It is something I know very little about and is problematic in that it is founded on a lack of response from the Queen etc. However, it seems to be based on the type of ideas being discussed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, Sheepy said: Nobby was easily led it doesn't run for everyone. I am not 'knocking' the concept of this thread but you have to consider HOW you can do it and IF the 'mass' will join you? Currently, from this thread, it seems to be moving too fast without addressing the base problems. It could be done in a 'free' realm but we are not in that ....... BUT it could still be done. So lets take them one by one .... If you cannot use the current internet, how will you bypass that challenge without being swiftly and violently shut down? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheepy Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 1 minute ago, ink said: I am not 'knocking' the concept of this thread but you have to consider HOW you can do it and IF the 'mass' will join you? Currently, from this thread, it seems to be moving too fast without addressing the base problems. It could be done in a 'free' realm but we are not in that ....... BUT it could still be done. So lets take them one by one .... If you cannot use the current internet, how will you bypass that challenge without being swiftly and violently shut down? Ok so where does it say you cannot use the current internet? I said pick your platform wisely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 Just now, Sheepy said: Ok so where does it say you cannot use the current internet? I said pick your platform wisely. So you intend to utilise the system designed and controlled by those you wish to usurp and consider that they will allow such an action? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheepy Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, ink said: So you intend to utilise the system designed and controlled by those you wish to usurp and consider that they will allow such an action? Why are you telling me what I think? I am more than happy to let the thread take its course and who says they designed and control all of it? Oh you did. Edited November 1, 2021 by Sheepy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, Sheepy said: Why are you telling me what I think? I am more than happy to let the thread take its course and who says they designed and control all of it? Oh you did. My bad .... I thought that an actual conversation on how to implement such a new Direct Democracy was wanted .... not just another 'chat' which never addresses the root problems. Enjoy your chat .... I shall piss off and leave you to it :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheepy Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 Just now, ink said: My bad .... I thought that an actual conversation on how to implement such a new Direct Democracy was wanted .... not just another 'chat' which never addresses the root problems. Enjoy your chat .... I shall piss off and leave you to it :) Thats the spirit let people do something positive. I like their positive thinking already. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ween Dwijler Posted November 1, 2021 Author Share Posted November 1, 2021 5 minutes ago, Sheepy said: Why are you telling me what I think? I am more than happy to let the thread take its course and who says they designed and control all of it? Oh you did. Let him go, mate. I've already put this troll on ignore since the beginning. Most likely one of these brigade 77 types they warned us for. We just stick to our positive thing here. If we get it right, we win. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ween Dwijler Posted November 1, 2021 Author Share Posted November 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, Sheepy said: Thats the spirit let people do something positive. I like their positive thinking already. Yup. We're working on a solution here, instead of soaking ourselves in negative emotions. The difference between an optimist and a pessimist is, that a pessimist achieves nothing and an optimist might come half way, which is still more than getting stuck at the start. It's the difference between winners and losers. At least we have a chance to win. He hasn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheepy Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, Ween Dwijler said: Yup. We're working on a solution here, instead of soaking ourselves in negative emotions. The difference between an optimist and a pessimist is, that a pessimist achieves nothing and an optimist might come half way, which is still more than getting stuck at the start. It's the difference between winners and losers. At least we have a chance to win. He hasn't. Well here you go a chance to shine, I notice a couple of others have joined in with questions and links. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ween Dwijler Posted November 1, 2021 Author Share Posted November 1, 2021 (edited) @inkIt's good if some want to address possible root problems. But if that means to launch a volley of bears on the road, without offering any possible solution, you're not contributing anything. I understand your pain of failing in the past, we all have failures on our tab. But, as so often seen in life, others can succeed where you failed. It's up to you if you want to help or not. Venting your frustrations of past failures doesn't help anyone, in the least yourself. Cheer up, I'm sure you can do much better. Edited November 1, 2021 by Ween Dwijler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ween Dwijler Posted November 1, 2021 Author Share Posted November 1, 2021 4 minutes ago, Sheepy said: Well here you go a chance to shine, I notice a couple of others have joined in with questions and links. If we achieve victory in this, we'll all shine. We will look at each other with a big smile on our faces. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheepy Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 Just now, Ween Dwijler said: If we achieve victory in this, we'll all shine. We will look at each other with a big smile on our faces. Like I told you a populist is never alone, sometimes not for the better but mostly you will be watched over. In a good way of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ween Dwijler Posted November 1, 2021 Author Share Posted November 1, 2021 46 minutes ago, Golden Retriever said: Who do you have in mind as "really great thinkers of our time, from relevant disciplines in the sciences" Feel free to make your recommendations. Looking forward to it. We can discuss together which ones would be best to deal with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ween Dwijler Posted November 1, 2021 Author Share Posted November 1, 2021 44 minutes ago, Jus said: Haven't the foundations along these lines been thought through already... https://www.universal-community-trust.org It is something I know very little about and is problematic in that it is founded on a lack of response from the Queen etc. However, it seems to be based on the type of ideas being discussed. I'm afraid it is not even close to what we try to achieve here. But thanks for the input anyway. It was ..... interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 Most surreal thread ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Retriever Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 3 minutes ago, Ween Dwijler said: Feel free to make your recommendations. Looking forward to it. We can discuss together which ones would be best to deal with. I don't have any recommendations of "really great thinkers of our time, from relevant disciplines in the sciences" What are yours? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ween Dwijler Posted November 1, 2021 Author Share Posted November 1, 2021 5 minutes ago, Sheepy said: Like I told you a populist is never alone, sometimes not for the better but mostly you will be watched over. In a good way of course. I hope this is not just a populist thing. We should strive to include everyone, even the tyrants we don't like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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