Vaccines obviously doing nothing to stop deaths and cases rising in UK

[CrowintheSnow]

Imagine for a moment that Covid-19 is a real virus, which I believe it is. Unleashed deliberately on the world and given good time to spread to all corners of everywhere including Greenland, as stage 1 of "The cull" (stage 2 being the dubious ingredients of "The vaccine" and its constant trap now of follow-up jabs ad nauseam (literally.)

Right, well....

We are all told that the various vaccines will protect against serious illness and death.
Oh yeah?
"UK records highest daily death toll since early March" (October 27 2021)
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/uk-records-highest-daily-death-toll-since-early-march/ar-AAPYR0H?ocid=winp1taskbar

 

Like -who do they think they are kidding? A fat lot of good all these toxic vaccines are doing if the death toll is spiking again and cases of the virus are rising through the roof.

Absolute sheer bullshit. The vaccine uptake has been very "good" in the UK. Yet it apparently is offering no actual protection at all, or very little.
And nope. It makes not enough sense to blame the unvaccinated, as the vaxxed are a pretty big majority.

 

Compare that with the TB vaccine (which was a real vaccine) It did do what it said on the tin.
It appears this one is doing nothing at all.

 

This is somehwat of a rhetorical post.....

[HAARPING_On]

Might I suggest you start doing some real research into the idea that Covid doesn't actually exist, you may find some uncomfortable answers to the questions you are asking...

[CarpeDiem]

Whether you believe Covid 19 Sars Cov2 does or does not exist I think is irrelevant now, that ship has long, long sailed.

 

For me wether it existed or not was just an added distraction. It was merely a HEADLINE GRABBER FOR BOTH CAMPS.

 

What is relevant and always has been is the reasons for the virus and the dodgy testing method (existent or non existent).

 

We are now fully aware of the reason for the existent or non existent 'virus' and the testing methods. So for me, discussing if it exists or not is totally irrelevant. We need to stop going over old ground and just face up to what is now happening and deal with it.

[CosmoGenesis]

16 hours ago, CrowintheSnow said:

Imagine for a moment that Covid-19 is a real virus, which I believe it is. Unleashed deliberately on the world and given good time to spread to all corners of everywhere including Greenland, as stage 1 of "The cull" (stage 2 being the dubious ingredients of "The vaccine" and its constant trap now of follow-up jabs ad nauseam (literally.)

Right, well....

We are all told that the various vaccines will protect against serious illness and death.
Oh yeah?
"UK records highest daily death toll since early March" (October 27 2021)
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/uk-records-highest-daily-death-toll-since-early-march/ar-AAPYR0H?ocid=winp1taskbar

 

Like -who do they think they are kidding? A fat lot of good all these toxic vaccines are doing if the death toll is spiking again and cases of the virus are rising through the roof.

Absolute sheer bullshit. The vaccine uptake has been very "good" in the UK. Yet it apparently is offering no actual protection at all, or very little.
And nope. It makes not enough sense to blame the unvaccinated, as the vaxxed are a pretty big majority.

 

Compare that with the TB vaccine (which was a real vaccine) It did do what it said on the tin.
It appears this one is doing nothing at all.

 

This is somehwat of a rhetorical post.....

 

Covid tard.

[Grumpy Owl]

17 hours ago, CrowintheSnow said:

Imagine for a moment that Covid-19 is a real virus, which I believe it is. Unleashed deliberately on the world and given good time to spread to all corners of everywhere including Greenland, as stage 1 of "The cull" (stage 2 being the dubious ingredients of "The vaccine" and its constant trap now of follow-up jabs ad nauseam (literally.)

Right, well....

We are all told that the various vaccines will protect against serious illness and death.
Oh yeah?
"UK records highest daily death toll since early March" (October 27 2021)
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/uk-records-highest-daily-death-toll-since-early-march/ar-AAPYR0H?ocid=winp1taskbar

 

Like -who do they think they are kidding? A fat lot of good all these toxic vaccines are doing if the death toll is spiking again and cases of the virus are rising through the roof.

Absolute sheer bullshit. The vaccine uptake has been very "good" in the UK. Yet it apparently is offering no actual protection at all, or very little.
And nope. It makes not enough sense to blame the unvaccinated, as the vaxxed are a pretty big majority.

 

Compare that with the TB vaccine (which was a real vaccine) It did do what it said on the tin.
It appears this one is doing nothing at all.

 

This is somehwat of a rhetorical post.....

 

Regardless of whether you believe that Covid-19 is a real disease/virus or not - or if viruses themselves even exist - the biggest takeaway is the lack of critical or even logical thinking.

 

2020:

A new 'novel' deadly and lethal virus sweeps across the world.

 

The vast majority of people who 'catch' this virus exhibit no symptoms and don't get sick or die.

Most people who do exhibit symptoms and fall ill recover after a few days.

Most people who get sick and die have existing conditions that would have likely finished them off after a really bad cold or flu.

 

There were lockdowns, restrictions, businesses closed, mask mandates. 'Cases' continued to rise, people continued to die.

 

2021:

Various vaccines were 'rolled-out', with the idea being 'get the jab, get your freedom back, this will soon be over'.

 

It was claimed "get the vaccine, you won't die from Covid". A disease which has something like a 95% survival rate.

 

But the vaccines don't stop you catching Covid. You can still 'spread it', and as we have seen unfortunately, you can actually still die from it.

 

So what's the point of the vaccines then?

 

And it is now being proposed that we segregate society into 'vaxxed' and 'unvaxxed', with the use of 'vaccine passports'.

 

What difference is it going to make? The 'vaxxed' may get privileges denied to those who are 'unvaxxed', but the vaxxed can still spread this 'lethal and deadly' virus amongst themselves, and even the vaxxed can get sick and die.

 

It's all a load of illogical horseshit.

 

[Saved]

On 10/27/2021 at 8:47 PM, Grumpy Owl said:

 

Regardless of whether you believe that Covid-19 is a real disease/virus or not - or if viruses themselves even exist - the biggest takeaway is the lack of critical or even logical thinking.

 

2020:

A new 'novel' deadly and lethal virus sweeps across the world.

 

The vast majority of people who 'catch' this virus exhibit no symptoms and don't get sick or die.

Most people who do exhibit symptoms and fall ill recover after a few days.

Most people who get sick and die have existing conditions that would have likely finished them off after a really bad cold or flu.

 

There were lockdowns, restrictions, businesses closed, mask mandates. 'Cases' continued to rise, people continued to die.

 

2021:

Various vaccines were 'rolled-out', with the idea being 'get the jab, get your freedom back, this will soon be over'.

 

It was claimed "get the vaccine, you won't die from Covid". A disease which has something like a 95% survival rate.

 

But the vaccines don't stop you catching Covid. You can still 'spread it', and as we have seen unfortunately, you can actually still die from it.

 

So what's the point of the vaccines then?

 

And it is now being proposed that we segregate society into 'vaxxed' and 'unvaxxed', with the use of 'vaccine passports'.

 

What difference is it going to make? The 'vaxxed' may get privileges denied to those who are 'unvaxxed', but the vaxxed can still spread this 'lethal and deadly' virus amongst themselves, and even the vaxxed can get sick and die.

 

It's all a load of illogical horseshit.

 

That's about where I'm at with it all - the illogical horse shit stage.

 

I know so many people who are very successful in their chosen career paths, so much more intelligent than me and with a background in academia (many went to Oxford and Cambridge) that proves their ability to get their heads down and study, analyze, work things out.

 

Doctors (around 15), surgeons (2), architects and engineers (10 or so), lawyers (3), teachers (20 or so).

 

I know these people well enough to eat with them and have done so in their homes - they ain't some silly arse fly by night Facebook friends. They've babysat every one of my kids at one stage or another.

 

EVERY one of them is now double jabbed. They have conformed with every mandate at every step and some have had their first booster whilst the rest eagerly await their turn. One of them (a retired structural engineer) took part in the original trials.

 

Where is the critical thinking? Where is the logical thinking? Surely, given that these 'vaccines' were trumpeted as the way to freedom - with 80% jabbed - we'd be there now. But no, they don't actually work. They do NOT stop transmission. They do NOT stop people dying. So what is the point of the boosters and what is the reason why all (including kids) should be jabbed and what is the reason for health passports?

 

For those who are hard of hearing, the vaccines DO NOT WORK!!!

 

 

[ItsTheTruthThough]

18 hours ago, Saved said:

That's about where I'm at with it all - the illogical horse shit stage.

 

I know so many people who are very successful in their chosen career paths, so much more intelligent than me and with a background in academia (many went to Oxford and Cambridge) that proves their ability to get their heads down and study, analyze, work things out.

 

Doctors (around 15), surgeons (2), architects and engineers (10 or so), lawyers (3), teachers (20 or so).

 

I know these people well enough to eat with them and have done so in their homes - they ain't some silly arse fly by night Facebook friends. They've babysat every one of my kids at one stage or another.

 

EVERY one of them is now double jabbed. They have conformed with every mandate at every step and some have had their first booster whilst the rest eagerly await their turn. One of them (a retired structural engineer) took part in the original trials.

 

Where is the critical thinking? Where is the logical thinking? Surely, given that these 'vaccines' were trumpeted as the way to freedom - with 80% jabbed - we'd be there now. But no, they don't actually work. They do NOT stop transmission. They do NOT stop people dying. So what is the point of the boosters and what is the reason why all (including kids) should be jabbed and what is the reason for health passports?

 

For those who are hard of hearing, the vaccines DO NOT WORK!!!

 

 

What I have come to realise is that being academically educated does not equal being wise. All it means for them is they are very good at memorising what they are told to think and what they are told are the correct answers to be ‘smart’ and how to regurgitate  that onto exam papers. 
 

Wise people think. Wise people form an opinion based on their own research and come to their own conclusions.

[Mr H]

On 10/30/2021 at 5:00 AM, Saved said:

That's about where I'm at with it all - the illogical horse shit stage.

 

I know so many people who are very successful in their chosen career paths, so much more intelligent than me and with a background in academia (many went to Oxford and Cambridge) that proves their ability to get their heads down and study, analyze, work things out.

 

Doctors (around 15), surgeons (2), architects and engineers (10 or so), lawyers (3), teachers (20 or so).

 

I know these people well enough to eat with them and have done so in their homes - they ain't some silly arse fly by night Facebook friends. They've babysat every one of my kids at one stage or another.

 

EVERY one of them is now double jabbed. They have conformed with every mandate at every step and some have had their first booster whilst the rest eagerly await their turn. One of them (a retired structural engineer) took part in the original trials.

 

Where is the critical thinking? Where is the logical thinking? Surely, given that these 'vaccines' were trumpeted as the way to freedom - with 80% jabbed - we'd be there now. But no, they don't actually work. They do NOT stop transmission. They do NOT stop people dying. So what is the point of the boosters and what is the reason why all (including kids) should be jabbed and what is the reason for health passports?

 

For those who are hard of hearing, the vaccines DO NOT WORK!!!

 

 

Most likely these people are not stupid and they most likely have a counter argument to justify their own logic - reduction people seriously ill with covid etc..

 

Their logic is most likely based around official figures and narrative. Up until now they have probably had little reason to disbelieve officials or their statistics.

 

Sometimes I think harsh to label people stupid or without critical thinking skills when they can demonstrate it in other areas. Naive is a word I would probably use.

[DarianF]

32 minutes ago, Mr H said:

Most likely these people are not stupid and they most likely have a counter argument to justify their own logic - reduction people seriously ill with covid etc..

 

Their logic is most likely based around official figures and narrative. Up until now they have probably had little reason to disbelieve officials or their statistics.

 

Sometimes I think harsh to label people stupid or without critical thinking skills when they can demonstrate it in other areas. Naive is a word I would probably use.

 

Dead bodies all over the street. Just like the Black Death.

[Mr H]

4 hours ago, DarianF said:

 

Dead bodies all over the street. Just like the Black Death.

Black death times didn't have social media, now 1 pair of eyes become millions via technology. But it's fair easier now than back then to give people the impression of a pandemic. Especially if there is indeed something going around to confirm this.

[Mr H]

I just don't think it's a lack of critical thinking - although have suspected myself in the past. Speaking to these people they can still perform critically intelligent functions. Indeed, it's not very intelligent to believe that the world is run by evil people - because it's not an act of intelligence to harm a fellow man. They just haven't had life experiences which contradict the view that people could be wishing them harm and thus do not suspect the official story - which if you didn't suspect why would you? - there are signs everywhere of a pandemic, to be careful, there are pictures in hospitals of people dying, official statistics recording hundreds of thousands of deaths, reminders everyday. I just think you would need to have had an experience(s) of leaders not acting in our interest to go against sense perception which is how most people live their lives.....

 

I also suspect at a subconscious level, many people know or feel something isn't right. But to take that pill is a big deal, their whole world might fall apart, who they thought they were might fall apart - hence at a subconscious level I suspect many are choosing to keep their head in the sand. But this operational function is at subconscious level rather than critical thinking function.

Edited October 31, 2021 by Mr H

[Mr H]

My point of saying that was...

 

1. To show some compassion to fellow man. 

2. To avoid further unnecessary separation with those who "have critical thinking" and those that do not. Or stupid covid believers and us clever covid deniers..

 

Everyone's been proper mindfuc*ed by the government and big pharma and the banks over this, sure everyone is navigating as best they can even if it doesn't sometimes feel like that....

[Anti Facts Sir]

17 hours ago, ItsTheTruthThough said:

What I have come to realise is that being academically educated does not equal being wise. All it means for them is they are very good at memorising what they are told to think and what they are told are the correct answers to be ‘smart’ and how to regurgitate  that onto exam papers. 
 

Wise people think. Wise people form an opinion based on their own research and come to their own conclusions.

They have been separated from their instinct and common sense.

 

If anything, the more "educated" (ie indoctrinated) a person is, the more mental gymnastics they seem prepared to do with all the "data" and "science".

[bamboozooka]

facts don't matter to normies.

all i get is "you believe what you want to believe and i'll believe what i want to believe"

 

[Grumpy Owl]

3 hours ago, Mr H said:

My point of saying that was...

 

1. To show some compassion to fellow man. 

2. To avoid further unnecessary separation with those who "have critical thinking" and those that do not. Or stupid covid believers and us clever covid deniers..

 

Everyone's been proper mindfuc*ed by the government and big pharma and the banks over this, sure everyone is navigating as best they can even if it doesn't sometimes feel like that....

 

When I point out things like "a lack of critical thinking", it is just an observation of mine, and not intended as a 'slur' against anyone.

 

I do think a significant number of people may have been 'mass hypnotised' in some way, or at least are under some kind of behavioural engineering 'coercive control'.

 

I have an elderly neighbour of mine, who has talked to me freely before about 'aliens' and 'government conspiracies', yet is fully onboard with the Covid narrative, is fully jabbed up and won't leave our block without wearing a mask.

[Ethel]

On 10/30/2021 at 5:00 AM, Saved said:

I know so many people who are very successful in their chosen career paths, so much more intelligent than me and with a background in academia (many went to Oxford and Cambridge)

 

Academic prowess doesn't prove overall intelligence. It proves one form of intelligence, i.e. memory. I am educated to University level so I have known academics. They have lots of knowledge but zero capacity for critical thought, especially where questioning authority is concerned.

 

 

On 10/30/2021 at 5:00 AM, Saved said:

(many went to Oxford and Cambridge) that proves their ability to get their heads down and study, analyze, work things out.

 

Not really. It proves something, but definitely not a capacity for analysis, lol

 

On 10/30/2021 at 5:00 AM, Saved said:

Doctors (around 15),

 

Glorified drug dealers, plus willing prostitutes to the Big Pharma cartel. Anyone left in that profession is either utilizing massive amounts of the defense mechanism of denial, or lacks conscience. Complicit in the Convid scam.

 

On 10/30/2021 at 5:00 AM, Saved said:

surgeons (2)

 

People who the term 'God complex' was designed for. Refusing people medical treatment unless they take the bogus PCR test to be tested for a virus which doesn't exist. Breaching the Hippocratic oath by doing so. Complicit in the Convid scam.

 

On 10/30/2021 at 5:00 AM, Saved said:

lawyers (3)

 

Have massively failed to defend the unvaccinated and their human rights. Complicit in the Convid scam.

 

On 10/30/2021 at 5:00 AM, Saved said:

teachers (20 or so)

 

Have stood by and watched this nation's youth being brainwashed, scaremongered, terrified, indoctrinated and medically, bodily raped by the bogus PCR test. System slaves to the nth degree, massively complicit in the Convid scam.

 

Exceptions to the above generalizations are apparently rare.

 

On 10/30/2021 at 5:00 AM, Saved said:

EVERY one of them is now double jabbed.

 

I could absolutely believe it.

 

On 10/30/2021 at 5:00 AM, Saved said:

Where is the critical thinking? Where is the logical thinking?

 

They have none. Their 'intelligence' begins and ends with rote repetition, which they use to repeat the pack of lies which seventeen plus years of education pounded into their brains. They are fully paid up slaves who are in the grip of Stockholm Syndrome where their relationship with the PTB is concerned. Pray for their soul. I want to feel compassion for them, desperately, but mostly they just fucking annoy me.

[Ethel]

3 hours ago, Mr H said:

My point of saying that was...

 

1. To show some compassion to fellow man. 

2. To avoid further unnecessary separation with those who "have critical thinking" and those that do not. Or stupid covid believers and us clever covid deniers..

 

Everyone's been proper mindfuc*ed by the government and big pharma and the banks over this, sure everyone is navigating as best they can even if it doesn't sometimes feel like that....

 

I absolutely 100% agree with you. Your viewpoint is the one I want to have. I wish I could let go of the part of me that wants to judge these people but they have made me feel more alone and I bitterly resent them for it