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Tory MP David Amess Stabbed To Death at Constituency Meeting


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4 hours ago, Golden Retriever said:

The old forum had a thread with thousands of comments about the alleged murder of the Labour MP Jo Cox, conveniently just before the EU Referendum by a "far right nationalist" I followed that thread and I contributed possibly a hundred comments or more from my own research.  Tommy Mair imo was a patsy. He received "a whole life tariff" which is very unusual for the murder of one person.

 

For sure. And yes, they don't like the idea of letting patsies out of prison. Though some do manage to 'escape' every now and then, such as Barry George and Jack Whomes. 

 

4 hours ago, Golden Retriever said:

After the Jo Cox affair, there was a call for MP's to have much more security and now we have the alleged murder of a right wing MP by an "Islamist terrorist" I don't know if this is linked, but today the fucking awful Daily Mail are villifying small groups of mainly parents, calling them a mob, who are peacefully serving common law writs on councillors, celebrities and headteachers in their homes and places of work because these protestors do not agree with 12-16 year old children having the vaccination, some without their parent's consent.  So the State can overrule the parents of a 12 year child. Outrageous. Are MP's worried that these people will come to their homes? Not to hurt them but to expose the Covid lie, that they have been party to.

 

This is bigger than any vaccine policy. In the next few months, I reckon the PTB are going to try pulling some very unpopular stunts. Like 'governments clubbing together more' kind of stunts. The PTB obviously don't think that the masonic mass media are going to be able to spin it all through.   

 

4 hours ago, Golden Retriever said:

We can see this especially in regards to the Covid Lie.  In the UK there is a "right wing" Government in power,

but the socialist population on the whole support their Covid measures! In Spain there is a Socialist Government in

power but the right wing population on the whole support their measures! Do people get it yet? It doesn't matter who you vote for or support, they are one of the same. Ever heard of the New World Order?

 

Jeremy Corbyn was genuine though. Now, with Bojo The Clown and Constipated Keir, we are pretty much like the U.S.. I don't think Bojo was a 100% stooge to begin with, but they seem to be having their way with him.

 

4 hours ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

I don't just think it will just be beefed up security for MPs, that's the worrying part. I will be very surprised if they don't use this as an excuse for more surveillance, and to push for the end of anonymity online. They'll surely take us closer towards that crap anyway.

 

We can at least be glad that General Dickhead and his merry band of 77th Brigade 'Conspicuous Gonads' aren't about.

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Before I moved house a few years ago now, I used to have the pleasure of having Jess Phillips as my MP. 🤪

 

As much as I can't stand the woman, I would never in any lifetime dream of actually causing her any physical harm by going to one of her surgeries and stabbing her.

 

From my own experience, dealing with your local MP is usually an utter waste of your time, as they're only interested in what you have to say if they agree with you.

 

Something still feels 'off' with this story, like what was this Somali fella actually hoping to achieve by meeting with his local MP, and then stabbing him to death? What's different with this story, compared to other 'acts of terrorism', is that this Somali fella is still actually alive, normally these perpetrators are shot dead by police, which makes it much easier for them to concoct some narrative that suits a particular agenda.

 

Of course, as we saw with Tommy Mair and Jo Cox, the perpetrator could still easily be 'fitted up'.

 

Then of course we have the usual quotes about how "we will not be cowed by terrorists", closely followed by calls for MPs to 'suspend' their constituency surgeries, as well as Jo Cox's MP sister revealing she has been asked to step down by her partner.

 

If that's not "cowing to terrorists" then I don't know what it is.

 

I really don't know what the endgame is here, maybe some MPs will 'stand down' from their posts "out of fear for their lives" which will trigger a series of by-elections, rather than a full blown General Election, in order to undermine the Government.

 

Maybe some MPs will indeed 'cower to terrorism' and refuse to meet their constituents face-to-face, which will then fuel the question of "what do we elect these people for then?"

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1 hour ago, Golden Retriever said:

Sir David Amess: Ali Harbi Ali named as man held on suspicion of murdering MP, Sky News understands

https://news.sky.com/video/sir-david-amess-ali-harbi-ali-named-as-man-held-on-suspicion-of-murdering-mp-sky-news-understands-12436025

 

Harbi means belonging to war in Arabic … interesting name choice 

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Daily Mail online headline this morning.  The plot thickens. Putting the seed in everyones' heads

the Israeli regime is OK because David Amess supported them. Furthering the agenda of

no criticism allowed of Zionism.

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10099513/Preacher-sparks-fury-suggesting-Sir-David-Amess-killed-pro-Israel.html

Preacher Anjem Choudary sparks fury by suggesting Sir David Amess may have been killed for being 'pro-Israel'

When asked how Mr Amess’s ‘pro-Israel’ stance would make him a target, Choudary replied: ‘Many people do [believe] that it is a terrorist state, and who would possibly be a friend of Israel after you see the carnage that they carried out against Muslims in the West Bank and Gaza Strip and continue to do with the appropriation of properties?’ But Choudary, a trained lawyer, was quick to point out that he does not condone the killing of anyone, let alone an MP, in Britain.

 

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18 hours ago, Truthspoon said:

 

I've lived and worked in the Arab world since 2005 pal. I'm still there.

 

Most Muslims do not eat pork and drink alcohol nor do they frequent whores. That is a fact old sausage. Any that do, are by definition, no longer Muslims.


Fucking whores is frowned upon, as is getting drunk and eating pork. There are a few four and five star hotels in Muscat where Omani's would meet whores... but it's the exception. I would not class such men as Muslims.

 

Most Muslims don't do these things. Any that do, particularly a bloke sitting in a pub getting off his face then driving a car through a nightclub..... well, that's not common behaviour for a Muslim.

 

We can all cite example of some 'so called' Muslim men doing non-Muslim things, but they are in the massive minority.

 

 

 

 

 

All muslims go to hell. And all muslims end up in heaven.

How much time they spend in hell depends on how sinful their lives have been.

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3 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

 

It's all so tiresome.

Indeed. Because the stabbing took place on Twitter, right.

 

The agenda is crystal clear. Impose barriers between the ruling elite (including its useful idiots the MPs) and the public now that the SHTF, and clamp down on online opposition to the war being waged on ordinary people.

 

PRS. 

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1 hour ago, Mikheil said:

Well you aren't in Saudi pal, because every word you type on the internet there is scrutinised and you would have been banned and deported  years ago with your website and the mere fact that you even view this forum.

 

I was threatened because I visited a site babelfish.com, to translate something from Arabic to English in an email from a fellow worker. I was accused of visiting a sex site and my internet was cut off, because of Babe in Babelfish.

 

My mail from overseas had the stamps cut off because they had a nativity scene on them. A colleague went to Canada for his leave, came back with a book of Sherlock Holmes stories. It was confiscated at the airport. When he wrote six weeks later and asked for his book, they sent him an envelope full of ashes.

 

4 of the people who were supposed to be doing key work for the company did FUCK all except read the Koran. WE the fucking "guest workers" had to do their job. As you've obviously never been to Saudi, theses a fucking long causeway over the sea to Bahrain, the number of accidents coming back from Bahrain over the causeway, was fucking legendary. Drivers pissed out of their minds.

 

I only went to Bahrain a couple of times and personally witness 3 of the people who sat reading the Koran 24 x 7, sitting with prostitutes and drinking whiskey and eating bacon sandwiches. They often ran out of bacon, the demand was so great. They used to run out of whiskey as well. One of them had the fucking nerve to tell me that his doctor had recommended that he drink some whiskey to alleviate his stomach problem.

 

The number of suicides by young girls after being raped by their fathers and brothers is incredible. Even during Ramadan, the cunts used to hide to smoke.

 

They are fucking liars and hypocrites, Exactly the same as the fucking Jews who used to come to braais in South Africa, stuff themselves full of pork and then sit around for some time after eating chlorophyll tablets and peppermints so their 'devout' family wouldn't smell it.

 

I had no idea you were one of them. Kindly remove me from your website. I'm too old to suffer bullshit in support of the evil, lying, hypocritical cunts. Seems you have no respect for the truth at all if it conflicts with your religious beliefs.

 

I talked with Truthspoon on the phone...he is in the Golf Region 😎

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2 hours ago, Mikheil said:

 

 

I had no idea you were one of them. Kindly remove me from your website. I'm too old to suffer bullshit in support of the evil, lying, hypocritical cunts. Seems you have no respect for the truth at all if it conflicts with your religious beliefs.

 

I'm not one of them, I just work there.

 

Consider yourself removed. You contributed fuck all anyway.

 

Btw I have lived in the Arab world for more than ten years and have not experienced the litany of horrors that you have.

 

Maybe something to do with the circles you move in?

 

 

 

 

 

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6 hours ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

In the voice of Spok - Interesting.

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9 hours ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

 

 I found this article from 2010 on his website. He was very concerned about the safety and proper testing of new medicines. I wonder if he was raising concerns to the wrong people about the safety of Covid vaccines.

 

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David Amess Condemns Unsafe Medicines with New Bill

"The development of medicines has helped millions of people to lead longer and more active lives. Medicines, however, are not risk free. Regrettably, there has been an increasing level of adverse drug reactions, which is obviously unacceptable. Action needs to be taken to improve the safety of medicines as far as possible.

 

Extrapolating the number of hospital admissions due to adverse drug reactions from a number of studies indicates, quite shockingly, that around a million Britons are hospitalised by prescription medicines every year, costing the NHS £2 billion. This is a figure the public purse can ill afford, and does not take into account, even in purely financial terms, the wider cost to society, such as the burden of lost productivity. It is true that some level of risk cannot yet be avoided, but the question I want to pose is whether it would be better to test medicines for safety differently, before they are released to the general public."

 

Although he did go on to say!

 

"The pharmaceutical industry needs new mechanisms. Many new technologies have been developed in recent years: for instance, a wide range of techniques using human tissues-including the interconnection of several different tissues to mimic the whole body in miniature-human DNA chips, computer modelling, and exciting new methods of testing minuscule, safe doses of new drugs in volunteers. A combination of those approaches promises to predict the effects of new drugs on humans more accurately than tests on animals ever could"

 

More here

 

https://www.davidamess.co.uk/news/david-amess-condemns-unsafe-medicines-new-bill

 

 

 

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5 minutes ago, Golden Retriever said:

 

 I found this article from 2010 on his website. He was very concerned about the safety and proper testing of new medicines. I wonder if he was raising concerns to the wrong people about the safety of Covid vaccines.

 

Excerpts

David Amess Condemns Unsafe Medicines with New Bill

"The development of medicines has helped millions of people to lead longer and more active lives. Medicines, however, are not risk free. Regrettably, there has been an increasing level of adverse drug reactions, which is obviously unacceptable. Action needs to be taken to improve the safety of medicines as far as possible.

 

Extrapolating the number of hospital admissions due to adverse drug reactions from a number of studies indicates, quite shockingly, that around a million Britons are hospitalised by prescription medicines every year, costing the NHS £2 billion. This is a figure the public purse can ill afford, and does not take into account, even in purely financial terms, the wider cost to society, such as the burden of lost productivity. It is true that some level of risk cannot yet be avoided, but the question I want to pose is whether it would be better to test medicines for safety differently, before they are released to the general public."

 

Although he did go on to say!

 

"The pharmaceutical industry needs new mechanisms. Many new technologies have been developed in recent years: for instance, a wide range of techniques using human tissues-including the interconnection of several different tissues to mimic the whole body in miniature-human DNA chips, computer modelling, and exciting new methods of testing minuscule, safe doses of new drugs in volunteers. A combination of those approaches promises to predict the effects of new drugs on humans more accurately than tests on animals ever could"

 

More here

 

https://www.davidamess.co.uk/news/david-amess-condemns-unsafe-medicines-new-bill

 

 

 

 

Out of reactions, but interesting, especially the bit about a need for new mechanisms . Cheers.

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11 hours ago, Moonlight said:

 

I talked with Truthspoon on the phone...he is in the Golf Region 😎

Saudi Arabia isn't the Gulf. Saudi Arabia is the country that has beheadings every weekend, women stoned to death, hands cut off, prison for owning a Bible. Every Magazine is "Sanitized" pictures of women cut out, recipes involving pork or bacon cut out. ANYTHING even a single word to do with Christianity cut out.

 

It's obvious you buddy has never lived or worked in Saudi. Saudi isn't like any other Middle East country, they are all fanatical extremists. All liars and fucking hypocrites. They treat the Pakistani and Philipino workers like shit. The minute you get there, they confiscate your Passport and you can only get it back when they allow you to leave. I was on contract there for close to 2 years. I would never go back there.

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