EnigmaticWorld Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 (edited) 45 minutes ago, Truthspoon said: Well, if Ayn Rand's Atlas Shrugged is any guide, which is largely seen as a blue-print of what is planned for the world, ie: engineered breakdown, it is the useful idiots and those who had a role in the engineered breakdown of society who are the first to perish. I wish this poor man to rest in peace, but from what is posted here he seems like a silly old fool and fake conservative and basically he reaped the whirlwind he had sewn. Maybe the fake Conservatives and liberals will wake up when they realise they might be next... The very people they have cheer-lead and supported and allowed to run rampant might just literally stab them in the back. I'm on the fence about it. Obviously it wouldn't surprise me if it's all legit, but I feel like it does glow a bit, and I'm not the only one on the dissident Right that is saying it's a bit sus at the moment because of the timing with MPs coming under more scrutiny. Coulter's law wasn't a thing this time either. They didn't wait ages to announce that he wasn't white, which is odd. All MPs will now have their security beefed up, making it even harder to hold them to account. White Brits will buy into it more because they will understandably feel like we're under attack. The sad part is white Brits wont ask for the attack on our way of life to stop. That being said, like I said before, it's still a lack of social cohesion that's allowing them to do this to us. So real or psyop, my views don't really change on the matter. Edited October 16, 2021 by EnigmaticWorld Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 6 minutes ago, numnuts said: and damn right I think they want to. Maybe have a read into what Zios, Putinstein and other Eurasianists want for Britain, but fair enough. I guess it's not the thread to discuss geopolitics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truthspoon Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 (edited) 10 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said: I'm on the fence about it. Obviously it wouldn't surprise me if it's all legit, but I feel like it does glow a bit, and I'm not the only one on the dissident Right that is saying it's a bit sus at the moment because of the timing with MPs coming under more scrutiny. Coulter's law wasn't a thing this time either. They didn't wait ages to announce that he wasn't white, which is odd. All MPs will now have their security beefed up, making it even harder to hold them to account. White Brits will buy into it more because they will understandably feel like we're under attack. The sad part is white Brits wont ask for the attack on our way of life to stop. That being said, like I said before, it's still a lack of social cohesion that's allowing them to do this to us. So real or psyop, my views don't really change on the matter. An MP is just a system minion. They will readily sacrifice these pawns in the furtherance of their agenda. Please don't tell me you think it didn't happen. I despair of the truth community these days....most of them have chosen the strange comfort of delusion over the rigid application of discernment and common sense. It gives people a sense of personal satisfaction to believe in a flat-earth because it allows them to understand that nothing makes sense because it isn't meant to make sense..... but they are just intellectually lazy and have given up on tracking down the real conspiracy and instead opted out by buying into a private fantasy. Edited October 16, 2021 by Truthspoon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 Just now, Truthspoon said: An MP is just a system minion. They will readily sacrifice these pawns in the furtherance of their agenda. Please don't tell me you think it didn't happen. I despair of the truth community these days....most of them have chosen delusion over the rigid application of discernment and common sense. Depends. He might have been on a watch list, but the watchers weren't doing their job if you know what I mean. Not everything has to be fake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Retriever Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 (edited) 7 hours ago, Seeker said: I have no idea, but just finished watching a Richard D Hall video on the Jo Cox assassination where it appears a patsy was used, and was planned for many months. He is quite good at dissecting state cover ups and terrorist events. Will be interesting to see if he finds anything out of the ordinary about this one. Not much to go on so far though, as usual will need some time. Out of likes. The old forum had a thread with thousands of comments about the alleged murder of the Labour MP Jo Cox, conveniently just before the EU Referendum by a "far right nationalist" I followed that thread and I contributed possibly a hundred comments or more from my own research. Tommy Mair imo was a patsy. He received "a whole life tariff" which is very unusual for the murder of one person. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_prisoners_with_whole-life_orders After the Jo Cox affair, there was a call for MP's to have much more security and now we have the alleged murder of a right wing MP by an "Islamist terroist" All the media are posting these images. I don't know if this is linked, but today the fucking awful Daily Mail are villifying small groups of mainly parents, calling them a mob, who are peacefully serving common law writs on councillors, celebrities and headteachers in their homes and places of work because these protestors do not agree with 12-16 year old children having the vaccination, some without their parent's consent. So the State can overrule the parents of a 12 year child. Outrageous and tyrannical State control. Are MP's worried that these people will come to their homes? Not to hurt them but to expose the Covid lie, that they have been party to. Super-spreaders of Covid lies: How a small cabal of anti-vaxxers are cashing in while risking countless lives with celebrities targeted at home https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10097721/Covid-lie-spreaders-small-cabal-anti-vaxxers-cashing-risking-countless-lives.html Edited October 16, 2021 by Golden Retriever 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truthspoon Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 Just now, EnigmaticWorld said: Depends. He might have been on a watch list, but the watchers weren't doing their job if you know what I mean. Not everything has to be fake. I think a lot of unnecessary confusion is being introduced here. And that always happens with these events..... it is obvious why.... they would rather you believed it was fake.... such as the Lee Rigby murder than face the reality of weaponised black schizos chopping up white people in the street. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 1 minute ago, Truthspoon said: I think a lot of unnecessary confusion is being introduced here. And that always happens with these events..... it is obvious why.... they would rather you believed it was fake.... such as the Lee Rigby murder than face the reality of weaponised black schizos chopping up white people in the street. I dunno. The problem is still multicultural BS regardless imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Facts Sir Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 (edited) Whether it happened or not, this is being used to silence debate and resistance over jabbing kids and preganant women, not to mention everyone else. This is the means to putting up a literal barrier between the public and those who are meant to serve them. The attacks like this are always pinned on a foreigner...usually Somalian or something similar. Islamic, blah blah blah. The one on the policeman outside Westminster, the one on the bridge, Lee Rigby, the one in Reading last summer.... Not even the angriest parent or protestor would go as far as stabbing a stupid MP. They'd rant and rave, and get angry. And leave. MPs are powerless, really, they've allowed themselves to become surplus to requirements with their pathetic acceptance of what the government are doing, and their lack of rigour and balls in properly challenging it. Edited October 16, 2021 by Anti Facts Sir 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Retriever Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 6 minutes ago, Truthspoon said: I think a lot of unnecessary confusion is being introduced here. And that always happens with these events..... it is obvious why.... they would rather you believed it was fake.... such as the Lee Rigby murder than face the reality of weaponised black schizos chopping up white people in the street. Can you clarify. Do you believe Lee Rigby was beheaded by an Islamist extremist? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 The concerning thing is, they will use the death of a Conservative MP and a Labour MP to get normies that support Tories and Labour to agree to more protections, which puts us firmly under their boot, unless society starts looking at the root of the problems, which will obviously never happen. Basically using both sides of the mainstream political spectrum against us. Coviet Union here we come. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saved Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 3 hours ago, BTCE said: Worth remembering this man was a member of a family, and no matter how much I cannot agree with how cowardly many MP’s from both parties are, condolences. What I will say is mentions of MP’s not meeting their constituents in person is being floated around, and ZOOM meetings are being suggested instead. This is a clear indication that politicians are attempting to ALL become untouchable and unanswerable- much like those silly PM briefings in which questions are screened and no follow up questions can be answered. They will use this as a catalyst now. They know people are starting to turn. I expect similar murders will occur in the few doctor's surgeries that are open. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Retriever Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said: The concerning thing is, they will use the death of a Conservative MP and a Labour MP to get normies that support Tories and Labour to agree to more protections, which puts us firmly under their boot, unless society starts looking at the root of the problems, which will obviously never happen. Basically using both sides of the mainstream political spectrum against us. Coviet Union here we come. Absolutely. We can see this especially in regards to the Covid Lie. In the UK there is a "right wing" Government in power, but the socialist population on the whole support their Covid measures! In Spain there is a Socialist Government in power but the right wing population on the whole suppot their measures! Do people get it yet? It doesn't matter who you vote for or support, they are one of the same. Ever heard of the New World Order? Edited October 16, 2021 by Golden Retriever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truthspoon Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 8 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said: The concerning thing is, they will use the death of a Conservative MP and a Labour MP to get normies that support Tories and Labour to agree to more protections, which puts us firmly under their boot, unless society starts looking at the root of the problems, which will obviously never happen. Basically using both sides of the mainstream political spectrum against us. Coviet Union here we come. Never mind society, we can't even agree on this forum..... What hope that 'normies' will be able to see the issues clearly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemuri Kyoshiro Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 14 minutes ago, Anti Facts Sir said: MPs are powerless, really, they've allowed themselves to become surplus to requirements with their pathetic acceptance of what the government are doing, and their lack of rigour and balls in properly challenging it. Not to mention compromised. Remember the old Chief Whip some years ago saying how he would cover up scandals in return for party loyalty? Who knows how many MPs have escaped justice because the party stepped in to help out? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truthspoon Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Golden Retriever said: Can you clarify. Do you believe Lee Rigby was beheaded by an Islamist extremist? I would say he was beheaded by a schizophrenic black man. Adding labels like Islamic extremist is subjective definition and perhaps is an artificial label which is being used by covert elements of the secret state to wage war on the population. I know the Islamic world very well. I wouldn't identify the murderer of Lee Rigby as a Muslim because by such a definition the whole Muslim world would be full of people beheading other people. But it isn't. A schizo yes, who had been shown to have involvement with MI5. A Muslim....no. Edited October 16, 2021 by Truthspoon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeker Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 29 minutes ago, Golden Retriever said: Out of likes. The old forum had a thread with thousands of comments about the alleged murder of the Labour MP Jo Cox, conveniently just before the EU Referendum by a "far right nationalist" I followed that thread and I contributed possibly a hundred comments or more from my own research. Tommy Mair imo was a patsy. He received "a whole life tariff" which is very unusual for the murder of one person. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_prisoners_with_whole-life_orders After the Jo Cox affair, there was a call for MP's to have much more security and now we have the alleged murder of a right wing MP by an "Islamist terroist" All the media are posting these images. I don't know if this is linked, but today the fucking awful Daily Mail are villifying small groups of mainly parents, calling them a mob, who are peacefully serving common law writs on councillors, celebrities and headteachers in their homes and places of work because these protestors do not agree with 12-16 year old children having the vaccination, some without their parent's consent. So the State can overrule the parents of a 12 year child. Outrageous and tyrannical State control. Are MP's worried that these people will come to their homes? Not to hurt them but to expose the Covid lie, that they have been party to. Super-spreaders of Covid lies: How a small cabal of anti-vaxxers are cashing in while risking countless lives with celebrities targeted at home https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10097721/Covid-lie-spreaders-small-cabal-anti-vaxxers-cashing-risking-countless-lives.html I’m still trying to find out why Jo cox was assassinated, what was the consensus? This far right thing didn’t seem to add up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 (edited) I don't just think it will just be beefed up security for MPs, that's the worrying part. I will be very suprised if they don't use this as an excuse for more surveillance, and to push for the end of anonymity online. They'll surely take us closer towards that crap anyway. It's horrifying times to be honest. I'm having flashbacks of Jonathon Bowden's talks on Orwell and Soviet states wiretapping their citizens. Edited October 16, 2021 by EnigmaticWorld 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Facts Sir Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 And the sick irony of course is that it is *us*, the public, who have never been so attacked by the state. They are waging war on *us* every moment of every day. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saved Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 38 minutes ago, Golden Retriever said: Out of likes. The old forum had a thread with thousands of comments about the alleged murder of the Labour MP Jo Cox, conveniently just before the EU Referendum by a "far right nationalist" I followed that thread and I contributed possibly a hundred comments or more from my own research. Tommy Mair imo was a patsy. He received "a whole life tariff" which is very unusual for the murder of one person. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_prisoners_with_whole-life_orders After the Jo Cox affair, there was a call for MP's to have much more security and now we have the alleged murder of a right wing MP by an "Islamist terroist" All the media are posting these images. I don't know if this is linked, but today the fucking awful Daily Mail are villifying small groups of mainly parents, calling them a mob, who are peacefully serving common law writs on councillors, celebrities and headteachers in their homes and places of work because these protestors do not agree with 12-16 year old children having the vaccination, some without their parent's consent. So the State can overrule the parents of a 12 year child. Outrageous and tyrannical State control. Are MP's worried that these people will come to their homes? Not to hurt them but to expose the Covid lie, that they have been party to. Super-spreaders of Covid lies: How a small cabal of anti-vaxxers are cashing in while risking countless lives with celebrities targeted at home https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10097721/Covid-lie-spreaders-small-cabal-anti-vaxxers-cashing-risking-countless-lives.html Wow - using the word 'cabal' to describe folk who probably know all about the Cabal. That isn't an accident. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Retriever Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Truthspoon said: I would say he was beheaded by a schizophrenic black man. Adding labels like Islamic extremist is subjective definition and perhaps is an artificial label which is being used by covert elements of the secret state to wage war on the population. I know the Islamic world very well. I wouldn't identify the murderer of Lee Rigby as a Muslim because by such a definition the whole Muslim world would be full of people beheading other people. But it isn't. A schizo yes, who had been shown to have involvement with MI5. A Muslim....no. First of all Lee Rigby or a person that day was not beheaded. So we have a problem ... that first sentence is a lie. All the important images have been deleted from the internet. A woman was comforting "Lee Rigby" on the ground in the street. He definitley wasn't beheaded. Where's the blood of a beheaded man? Why are these people not throwing up? This image can't be embedded because of censorship. http://scallywagandvagabond.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/beh4.jpg But I won't derail this important thread. Edited October 16, 2021 by Golden Retriever 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Truthspoon said: Never mind society, we can't even agree on this forum..... What hope that 'normies' will be able to see the issues clearly? I hear you. I'm not the type that usually calls these stabby attacks psyops though. Obviously you know that I think society is turning more hostile due to certain factors that are not politically correct to talk about. It's just that the timing of this one seems iffy. It's not worth arguing about though mate, the outcome will be the same regardless. It might be different if British people weren't so altruistic and docile, then they might look at the causes, but let's be real, I doubt that is going to happen. Edited October 16, 2021 by EnigmaticWorld 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluke Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 6 minutes ago, Golden Retriever said: First of all Lee Rigby or a person that day was not beheaded. So we have a problem ... that first sentence is a lie. All the important images have been deleted from the internet. A woman was comforting "Lee Rigby" on the ground in the street. He definitley wasn't beheaded. Where's the blood of a beheaded man? Why are these people not throwing up? This image can't be embedded because of censorship. http://scallywagandvagabond.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/beh4.jpg But I won't derail this important thread. I thought it was an attempted beheading. They took most of the neck off but it was hanging on by some flesh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Retriever Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Fluke said: I thought it was an attempted beheading. They took most of the neck off but it was hanging on by some flesh. No blood whatsoever and this .. http://scallywagandvagabond.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/beh4.jpg Edited October 16, 2021 by Golden Retriever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truthspoon Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Fluke said: I thought it was an attempted beheading. They took most of the neck off but it was hanging on by some flesh. Indeed. Isn't it funny that when some black nutjob murders a white man like this there are all sorts of people telling us it's fake. I'm so sick of that trope. It alone, though probably up there with flat-Earth bollocks, has done more to harm conspiracy research and drive people away, than anything else I can think of. Edited October 16, 2021 by Truthspoon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truthspoon Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 29 minutes ago, Seeker said: I’m still trying to find out why Jo cox was assassinated, what was the consensus? This far right thing didn’t seem to add up It was a sacrifice of one of their own to prompt a massive public backlash against Brexit by associating it with far right extremist murderers.... No doubt it had an effect which is probably why the final vote was fairly close...... but fortunately Brexit prevailed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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