Which UK political party would you vote for in 2021

[Golden Retriever]

If a general election was called in the UK, who would you vote for? 

 

No need to give details, just say which party or none in the anonymous poll. Cheers.

 

 

[BlueSky]

I'm not sure why anyone on this forum would play that game. Do you?

[Itsjaybigjay]

Voting only encourages them and gives them credibility. if everyone refused to play there game and abstained from voting there system would crumble as they would no longer have any credibility to the people.

[EnigmaticWorld]

None of them deserve a vote.

[Grumpy Owl]

Its not a very representative poll really.

 

I doubt very much if many regular forum members here would vote for any 'establishment' political party.

 

There are of course other smaller parties that are more deserving of your vote.

[Golden Retriever]

16 minutes ago, Grumpy Owl said:

Its not a very representative poll really.

 

I doubt very much if many regular forum members here would vote for any 'establishment' political party.

 

There are of course other smaller parties that are more deserving of your vote.

 

Not representative? How so?

 

Those are the 8 leading parties, plus independent candidates in the UK.   What % vote for smaller parties?

Edited October 9, 2021 by Golden Retriever

[Grumpy Owl]

16 minutes ago, Golden Retriever said:

 

Not representative? How so?

 

Those are the 8 leading parties, plus independent candidates in the UK.   What % vote for smaller parties?

 

With the exception of a good local independent, I wouldn't vote for any party on that list.

 

I would certainly vote for some smaller party if they stood a candidate in my area, and I agreed with most of their policies.

 

So I'm curious as to the purpose of this poll, and why you didn't at least add an option for 'some other party' (which could encompass the likes of UKIP, Heritage Party, For Britain, Renew, Reclaim, Communist Party of Great Britain, Monster Raving Loony Party, and whatever the Brexit Party calls itself now)

[Golden Retriever]

Just now, Grumpy Owl said:

 

With the exception of a good local independent, I wouldn't vote for any party on that list.

 

I would certainly vote for some smaller party if they stood a candidate in my area, and I agreed with most of their policies.

 

So I'm curious as to the purpose of this poll, and why you didn't at least add an option for 'some other party' (which could encompass the likes of UKIP, Heritage Party, For Britain, Renew, Reclaim, Communist Party of Great Britain, Monster Raving Loony Party, and whatever the Brexit Party calls itself now)

 

I've no problem with that, but I don't think I can change the poll after so many hours?

 

But, I know a man who can ...... you!

 

So add "some other party" please. Ta.

[EnigmaticWorld]

I would vote for an independent, but I'm in a Tory stronghold full of old bulldog nationalists, so nothing would come of it. I would just be voting out of principle.

 

Not sure which independent though.

Edited October 9, 2021 by EnigmaticWorld

[Grumpy Owl]

36 minutes ago, Golden Retriever said:

 

I've no problem with that, but I don't think I can change the poll after so many hours?

 

But, I know a man who can ...... you!

 

So add "some other party" please. Ta.

 

OK, I have done that now, now I figured out how to do it!

 

Only I can't change my own vote now

[Grumpy Owl]

On 10/8/2021 at 3:36 PM, BlueSky said:

I'm not sure why anyone on this forum would play that game. Do you?

 

22 hours ago, Itsjaybigjay said:

Voting only encourages them and gives them credibility. if everyone refused to play there game and abstained from voting there system would crumble as they would no longer have any credibility to the people.

 

The more people abstain from voting, the fewer votes it takes to keep this status quo in power. It literally becomes the 'tyranny of the minority', but looking at voter turnout records in recent years, this is clearly already happening.

 

You always have a 'hardcore' minority of voters who will just trot out to their local polling stations on election day and put a cross on the ballot paper next to the Tory or Labour candidate "because that is what they've always done" or because that is what their parents always did, or because that's what they've been told to do.

 

Most people have realised that voting for a major party achieves nothing now, nothing changes after all regardless of whether Labour or Conservatives are in 'power'. But the mistake being made is not bothering to vote at all. THAT is in my mind at least a 'wasted vote'.

 

If some other party can 'tap into' the potential of these 'did not vote'-ers, things could potentially change. But it is a big ask, because the media help to fuel this perception that a vote for any other party (other than Labour or Conservative) is a 'wasted vote'.

 

And it all ultimately boils down to 'perception'.

 

34 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

I would vote for an independent, but I'm in a Tory stronghold full of old bulldog nationalists, so nothing would come of it. I would just be voting out of principle.

 

Not sure which independent though.

 

I think you misunderstand 'independent'. Any 'independent' candidate is one that stands for election in your local constituency/ward that is NOT affiliated to any political party. These people usually stand on the grounds of some local issue or campaign, but are usually far more genuine than those who represent major parties and make vague promises that they have no intention of following through on, because once they become an MP, they end up just following the 'party line'.

 

There is also nothing wrong with 'voting out of principle'. I regularly trot to the polling station and vote for someone who doesn't represent any Establishment party. Is my vote wasted? Possibly yes, but in my own mind, I have exercised what little democratic right that I have, by NOT voting for 'more of the same'.

 

I don't buy this whole 'tactical voting' shenanigens that the media plays, because its all part of the perception manipulation that keeps the Establishment parties in power.

[EnigmaticWorld]

4 minutes ago, Grumpy Owl said:

NOT affiliated to any political party.

 

Yeah, I get that, but I'm still not sure though. lol

 

Never really looked into independent candidates in my area though. I would have to do some investigating.

Edited October 9, 2021 by EnigmaticWorld

[Grumpy Owl]

11 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

Never really looked into independent candidates in my area though. I would have to do some investigating.

 

Well the main thing is to know if there are any independents standing in your area, as its not always the case that there are.

 

Prior to any election, it is always worth looking at the Elections pages on your local council website, as they will always provide a 'Statement Of Persons Nominated' or something along those lines, which will detail all the candidates that will stand at that election, be it Local or Parliamentary.

 

There is also a 'deposit' that has to be paid that is non-refundable if any candidate gets less than 5% of votes, independents have to pay this out their own pocket.

 

 

[EnigmaticWorld]

37 minutes ago, Grumpy Owl said:

 

Well the main thing is to know if there are any independents standing in your area, as its not always the case that there are.

 

Prior to any election, it is always worth looking at the Elections pages on your local council website, as they will always provide a 'Statement Of Persons Nominated' or something along those lines, which will detail all the candidates that will stand at that election, be it Local or Parliamentary.

 

There is also a 'deposit' that has to be paid that is non-refundable if any candidate gets less than 5% of votes, independents have to pay this out their own pocket.

 

 

 

I haven't voted for anyone since I became disillusioned with Labour years ago, and they was all I have ever voted for. I just don't  have much confidence in a party these days, hence why I said an independent, but it would be something new for me assuming it's possible, so I appreciate the info.

[ConspiracyTruths.co.uk]

Votes aren't even counted. I published the Brexit results before people had finished voting. Not that anyone has taken any notice of this. It's all predetermined. 

[AJay]

We can't vote our way out of this using the fake parliamentary and representative "democracy" We need real people power, the solution is Anarchism / Libertarian Municipalism / Communalism