numnuts Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 There were a few, isolated mass media articles written at the beginning of September, about the upcoming expiration of the Coronavirus Act at the end of September, and they all pretty much agreed that it would again get renewed. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/sep/06/no-10-intent-on-keeping-covid-powers-amid-expected-rise-in-cases https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/boris-johnson-extend-lockdown-laws-six-months-b953633.html https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/boris-in-battle-with-anti-lockdown-mps-over-plans-to-extend-draconian-covid-powe/ No surprise there then, but, as far as I am aware, there has been total silence since. Personally, I suspect that the Coronavirus Act will be extended beyond the intended two years life span solely with ministerial discretion, regardless of the sunset clause provision, as in 'making it all up as they go along'. Furthermore, this would apply to all parts of it, regardless of whether they have already been repealed or not. Everyone will think that it no longer exists, but it will. The masonic mass media will obviously say nothing. Anyone else think the same? Anyone else heard anything about the latest renewal, say in the past week or so? Compared to the first two renewals, in September 2020 and March 2021, I find the recent silence quite eerie to be honest. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
numnuts Posted October 23, 2021 Author Share Posted October 23, 2021 (edited) After conducting some further research, it seems that the Coronavirus Act may well not expire after 2 years, come March 2022. This 'Coronavirus Bill: Amended time limits and post-legislative review' article is quite an interesting read. https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/coronavirus-bill-amended-time-limits-and-post-legislative-review/ At the end of that article, under 'Further Reading', there is also a link to another interesting 'Coronavirus Bill: What is the sunset clause provision?' article. So, a sunset clause that isn't really a sunset clause, no? I would like to know, if anyone reckons I am not thinking straight at all here. https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/coronavirus-bill-what-is-the-sunset-clause-provision/ When will the sun set on the Coronavirus Bill? The Coronavirus Bill has been introduced as a response to the Covid-19 outbreak. Its provisions are not intended to be permanent. As a result, its provisions are time limited by a sunset clause. Section 75(1) of the Bill states that the legislation will expire after a two-year period from the date on which the Bill is passed. Section 75(3) allows a Government Minister to make ”technical transitional, transitory and savings provisions," if necessary to cover a period beyond the two years. Section 76 of the Bill allows a “relevant national authority” to alter the expiry date for any provision of the Bill. The relevant national authority can bring the provisions to an end six months earlier or six months later than the two-year period provided for in section 75. Who or what is a ‘relevant national authority’? The Bill defines a relevant national authority as being: A Minister of the Crown – section 76(5) Welsh Ministers – section 76(7) – so far as the provisions affected extends to Wales Scottish Ministers – section 76 (9) – so far as the provisions affected extends to Scotland A Northern Ireland department is also a relevant national authority – section 76(11) – so far as the provisions affected extends to Northern Ireland. Edited October 23, 2021 by numnuts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
numnuts Posted October 23, 2021 Author Share Posted October 23, 2021 (edited) And another thing, at the end of the 'Coronavirus Bill: What is the sunset clause provision?' article, under 'Further Reading', there is also a link to yet another interesting 'Coronavirus Bill Explanatory Notes' article. https://publications.parliament.uk/pa/bills/cbill/58-01/0122/en/20122en.pdf Or perhaps I should rather say 'was' a link, as although I accessed it quite a few times, with no issue, it now seems to be dead. Overnight, it now seems to have somehow got linked to the Non-Domestic Rating (Public Lavatories) Bill, which seeks 'to provide 100 per cent business rates relief for standalone public lavatories in England and Wales. This includes publicly and privately owned, free to use and charging for entry lavatories'. Eh? Can anyone else access it successfully? The 'Location' in my internet history has remained the same, but the 'Name' in my internet history is now showing as follows: 'Non-Domestic Rating (Public Lavatories) - 20122en.pdf' Anyhow, from memory, there was also more information in that article, which further elaborated on how the Coronavirus Act could, in theory, literally never expire. The sun, or so it seems, 'may' always shine on the Coronavirus Act. Unless some BBC 'Fact Checkers' want to come on here and tell me I am wrong? No, I didn't think so either... Edited October 23, 2021 by numnuts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Owl Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 7 hours ago, numnuts said: https://publications.parliament.uk/pa/bills/cbill/58-01/0122/en/20122en.pdf Or perhaps I should rather say 'was' a link, as although I accessed it quite a few times, with no issue, it now seems to be dead. Overnight, it now seems to have somehow got linked to the Non-Domestic Rating (Public Lavatories) Bill, which seeks 'to provide 100 per cent business rates relief for standalone public lavatories in England and Wales. This includes publicly and privately owned, free to use and charging for entry lavatories'. Eh? Can anyone else access it successfully? The 'Location' in my internet history has remained the same, but the 'Name' in my internet history is now showing as follows: The link shows the correct document though it is titled in my browser as Non-Domestic Rating (Public Lavatories). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
numnuts Posted October 23, 2021 Author Share Posted October 23, 2021 24 minutes ago, Grumpy Owl said: The link shows the correct document though it is titled in my browser as Non-Domestic Rating (Public Lavatories). Yes, it has started working properly for me now again, but it was certainly awry earlier on this morning. I will scrutinise the contained notes again later on today. Weird or what. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Facts Sir Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 The bloody thing should never, ever have been passed. Certainly not without an ounce of scrutiny by MPs, as was the case. They passed in it a fraction of the time that it took to read it all. Done deals, as ever. And therefore, because it wasn't challenged or scrutinised enough 1st time,all subsequent renewals have just been waved through almost automatically. My guess is it will continue to be renewed without any questions until at least 2023, and then probably beyond that still. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
numnuts Posted October 27, 2021 Author Share Posted October 27, 2021 (edited) On 10/23/2021 at 8:12 AM, numnuts said: And another thing, at the end of the 'Coronavirus Bill: What is the sunset clause provision?' article, under 'Further Reading', there is also a link to yet another interesting 'Coronavirus Bill Explanatory Notes' article. https://publications.parliament.uk/pa/bills/cbill/58-01/0122/en/20122en.pdf Yes, from pages 60-63 it is all made very clear, as to how just one minister has the authority to continually extend this nasty piece of police state legislation. And a nasty piece of police state legislation is exactly what it is. Some might remember, prior to the first incarnation of this version of the forum getting infiltrated and deleted in May 2020, that I literally went over the entire Coronavirus Bill with a fine-tooth comb. It pretty much authorises the government to do anything they like, with legal impunity. If I was an honest M.P., then the very first things I would have asked are: 'How the fook did all of this get written within the space of a few weeks? What are the names of the people who wrote it? Who requested that they start writing it? When do they claim to have started writing it? When does Hancock claim that he was first passed the text? Um, and what's this bit about retrospectively being able to cancel all election and referendum results got to do with the Coronavirus?' It really is a big joke that this bill was somehow ready to be put to parliament by 19th March 2020. Anyhow, bad enough as the whole thing was in itself, our crooked M.P.'s passed it without even insisting that anything relating to a period of more than 2 years be removed from the bill. They could have said 'You come back here in 2 years time, with a new bill, if needs be. We will consider it then.' But no, they, virtually, unanimously passed it. Furthermore, although I agree that really getting down and dirty with fully scrutinising the entire 321 page bill was tough, our M.P.'s did have the explanatory notes to rely on. I mean, just one good evening's graft would have been sufficient to pore over them. And what did any of our press have to say about it? Like nothing. It was all very treacherous. On 10/23/2021 at 9:54 PM, Anti Facts Sir said: My guess is it will continue to be renewed without any questions until at least 2023, and then probably beyond that still. If by that you mean 'permanent', then I would have to agree with you. It literally is the U.K. version of the U.S. Patriot Act. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriot_Act As with the Coronavirus Bill, I would ask how the Patriot Act could possibly have been ready to put to the U.S. Congress on 23rd October 2001, which was only 6 weeks after 9/11 happened. Anyhow, I think that some people only wanted it to be passed for 2 years at the time, but it ended up getting passed for 4 years. It then got renewed in 2009, 2011 and 2015. The 2015 renewal was done in collaboration with the Freedom Act. Therefore when the Patriot Act did finally expire in March 2020, just the 15 years or so later than it was supposed to, the Freedom Act simply took over and was also granted a long term extension. Come 2040, then they will scrap the Freedom Act and replace it with the Good Citizen Act. Shocking stuff. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USA_Freedom_Act Edited October 27, 2021 by numnuts 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikheil Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 On 10/27/2021 at 3:07 PM, numnuts said: Come 2040, then they will scrap the Freedom Act and replace it with the Good Citizen Act. Shocking stuff. Only if you dumb assholes let them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
numnuts Posted November 17, 2021 Author Share Posted November 17, 2021 (edited) It seems that the Coronavirus Act eventually got extended again on 19 October. I have no idea why it got renewed so late and I suspect that there must be a good reason that I am unaware of. This recent article on the sunset clause, by the Hansard Society, is quite a good read. https://www.hansardsociety.org.uk/blog/coronavirus-act-renewal-into-the-sunset https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hansard_Society Most of the masonic rags said nothing, about the latest renewal, but The Masonic Mirror did pump out an article on it. Oh, and with a classy picture of senior freemason, Chris Whitty, lurking 'out of focus' behind Bojo The Clown. A shame, but not a surprise, that they couldn't also manage a few words about the dodgy sunset clause. https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/mps-extend-covid-powers-march-25251887 'MPs extend Covid powers to March 2022 as Boris Johnson avoids Tory revolt.' 'There was no formal vote in the Commons as the Coronavirus Act - which has finally been stripped of its most 'draconian' powers - was extended to 24 March 2022.' Edited November 17, 2021 by numnuts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 Covid jab compensation claims soar in Australia 17 Nov, 2021 15:15 Australia’s government could be forced to spend tens of millions in payouts after receiving more than 10,000 compensation claims from people who suffered side effects and loss of income due to Covid-19 vaccines. Under its no-fault indemnity scheme, eligible claimants can apply for compensation amounts between AU$5,000 (US$3,646) to AU$20,000 (US$14,585) to cover medical costs and lost wages as a result of being hospitalized after getting the shot. The scheme’s online portal is scheduled to be launched next month. Official figures suggest, however, that over 10,000 people have already indicated their intention to make a claim since registration opened on the health department’s website in September. If each claim was approved, the government could face a bill of at least AU$50 million (US$36.46 million). There were around 78,880 adverse events to Covid-related vaccination in Australia as of November 7, according to the Therapeutic Goods Administration, which regulates national health products. https://www.rt.com/news/540541-covid-jab-compensation-claims-soar/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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