TheConsultant Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 On 8/15/2022 at 10:36 AM, Deca said: you have to think of microwaves as more in common with how light works rather than how sound works ....this might not seem so obvious if you experience a microwave hearing effect V2K which you experience as the effect of sounds/voices in your head but that's the end result not how it works and propagates to you I have to correct this, I wont go through the rest of the thread because I cannot be assed to but posting obviously false things irks me. But no, EM is not just traverse, the clue is in the name. Electro (electric) and magnetism (magnetic), which oscillate together in phase on two axial planes, which is why we call that old cable that carries the signal a CO-AX (meaning CO-AXIAL) cable. It is consisting of an E field and B field. The term coaxial refers to the inner conductor and the outer shield sharing a geometric axis. The geometric axis is to shield from the magnetic component. As seen below: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deca Posted August 16, 2022 Author Share Posted August 16, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, TheConsultant said: I have to correct this, I wont go through the rest of the thread because I cannot be assed to but posting obviously false things irks me. But no, EM is not just traverse, the clue is in the name. Electro (electric) and magnetism (magnetic), which oscillate together in phase on two axial planes, which is why we call that old cable that carries the signal a CO-AX (meaning CO-AXIAL) cable. It is consisting of an E field and B field. The term coaxial refers to the inner conductor and the outer shield sharing a geometric axis. The geometric axis is to shield from the magnetic component. As seen below: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transverse_wave Quote In physics, a transverse wave is a wave whose oscillations are perpendicular to the direction of the wave's advance. This is in contrast to a longitudinal wave which travels in the direction of its oscillations. Water waves are an example of transverse wave. A simple example is given by the waves that can be created on a horizontal length of string by anchoring one end and moving the other end up and down. Another example is the waves that are created on the membrane of a drum. The waves propagate in directions that are parallel to the membrane plane, but the membrane itself gets displaced up and down, perpendicular to that plane. Light is another example of a transverse wave, where the oscillations are the electric and magnetic fields, which point at right angles to the ideal light rays that describe the direction of propagation. Quote Longitudinal waves are waves in which the vibration of the medium is parallel ("along") to the direction the wave travels and displacement of the medium is in the same (or opposite) direction of the wave propagation. Mechanical longitudinal waves are also called compressional or compression waves, because they produce compression and rarefaction when traveling through a medium, and pressure waves, because they produce increases and decreases in pressure. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longitudinal_wave the point of the post is "sound waves" and "microwaves" are completely different ...propagate differently and at vastly different speeds etc and the point is Ti`s perceive "microwave hearing effect" as "sound" but that sound is the end effect happing inside there body for a very sort time and distance and is not based on "sound waves" ok Edited August 16, 2022 by Deca Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheConsultant Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 (edited) I understand, but check this out: https://teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla/articles/tesla-sees-evidence-radio-and-light-are-sound - I'll leave you to it though, just wanted to correct something and it doesn't propagate differently, the oscillations are at vastly different speeds yes. ----------------- What, then, can light be if it is not a transverse vibration? That was the question he asked himself and set out to find the answer. “I consider this extremely important,” said Mr. Tesla. “Light cannot be anything else but a longitudinal disturbance in the ether, involving alternate compressions and rarefactions. In other words, light can be nothing else than a sound wave in the ether.” Feel free to replace ether with a word that makes you more comfortable. Quantum field, quantum liquid, gaseous excretion from my anus etc. Edited August 16, 2022 by TheConsultant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deca Posted August 17, 2022 Author Share Posted August 17, 2022 9 hours ago, TheConsultant said: I understand, but check this out: https://teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla/articles/tesla-sees-evidence-radio-and-light-are-sound - I'll leave you to it though, just wanted to correct something and it doesn't propagate differently, the oscillations are at vastly different speeds yes. ----------------- What, then, can light be if it is not a transverse vibration? That was the question he asked himself and set out to find the answer. “I consider this extremely important,” said Mr. Tesla. “Light cannot be anything else but a longitudinal disturbance in the ether, involving alternate compressions and rarefactions. In other words, light can be nothing else than a sound wave in the ether.” Feel free to replace ether with a word that makes you more comfortable. Quantum field, quantum liquid, gaseous excretion from my anus etc. Thanks ...but no thanks ...I not wasting my time going down this rabbit hole and it just adding confusion and distraction ..and not relevant to this thread. also thinking of EM waves(microwaves) as light helps you to think about RADAR how they illuminate a Target etc and how you can "see" the reflection of it ...so in a way you can think of a RADAR as a spot light in darkness ...lighting up a target etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheConsultant Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 Just now, Deca said: Thanks ...but no thanks ...I not wasting my time going down this rabbit hole and it just adding confusion and distraction ..and not relevant to this thread. also thinking of EM waves(microwaves) as light helps you to think about RADAR how they illuminate a Target etc and how you can "see" the reflection of it ...so in a way you can think of a RADAR as a spot light in darkness ...lighting up a target etc My comments have everything to do with your thread, as I said I will leave you to it :) Radar is light yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deca Posted August 17, 2022 Author Share Posted August 17, 2022 (edited) 10 minutes ago, TheConsultant said: My comments have everything to do with your thread, as I said I will leave you to it :) Radar is light yes. light, RF, microwaves are EM waves ...not sound waves ..... thats the point ..end of Edited August 17, 2022 by Deca Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheConsultant Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Deca said: light, RF, microwaves are EM waves ...not sound waves ..... thats the point ..end of My point was that it propagates like soundwaves, not as you have stated above. So not end of, learn the fundamental principles of most of the content you are posting. Also sound in solids travels with both a traverse and longitundinal component mirroring exactly how EM propagates with both axial planes Edited August 17, 2022 by TheConsultant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deca Posted August 17, 2022 Author Share Posted August 17, 2022 (edited) https://www.vedantu.com/question-answer/the-sound-waves-are-longitudinal-waves-the-class-12-physics-cbse-5fbc86647368736ba1978807 Edited August 17, 2022 by Deca Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deca Posted August 17, 2022 Author Share Posted August 17, 2022 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Deca said: https://www.vedantu.com/question-answer/the-sound-waves-are-longitudinal-waves-the-class-12-physics-cbse-5fbc86647368736ba1978807 Basically, make your own thread about EM waves being/acting like sound waves "theories" ....stop spamming hijacking mine OK ..you just adding confusing/distraction to mine ...thanks https://pediaa.com/difference-between-sound-waves-and-electromagnetic-waves/ Quote Main Difference – Sound Waves vs Electromagnetic Waves In modern day world, there are many scientific and technological applications of different kinds of waves. Most of such applications use sound waves or electromagnetic waves. Sound waves are mechanical waves whereas electromagnetic waves are not mechanical waves. Therefore, sound waves require a medium for their propagation whereas electromagnetic waves do not require a medium. This is the main difference between sound waves and electromagnetic waves. There are many other differences between these two. This article tries to explicate them in detail. Quote What is an Electromagnetic Wave Electromagnetic waves are produced by accelerating or decelerating charged particles. They are transverse waves. As a result, electromagnetic waves are polarizable. Electromagnetic waves unlike any other types of waves contain a magnetic field and also, an electric field oscillating perpendicular to each other and perpendicular to the direction of propagation of the wave. These waves carry energy in the direction of propagation of the wave. They can propagate through a vacuum as they are not mechanical waves. They can propagate through air, liquids, or solids. Anyhow, electromagnetic waves attenuate while they are traveling through a material medium. The degree of attenuation depends on the material properties of the medium through which the electromagnetic waves propagate. In a vacuum, electromagnetic waves travel with 3×108ms-1. In any material medium, the speed of the waves and their wavelengths decreases. Edited August 17, 2022 by Deca Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deca Posted August 17, 2022 Author Share Posted August 17, 2022 You have to think of v2k as a radio personalized broadcast ..and mostly an interactive experience with the synthetic telepathy function .... and you can't record "radio waves" with a microphone .....and the broadcast can be thought of like a "war or the worlds" one were its trying to distort/fool you about the surrounding reality to shape your beliefs and cause you to react ....."like getting you to see or shoot at a water tower ..thinking it's an alien spaceship" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheConsultant Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 Correcting errors in your thread is not hijacking a thread. As you were. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deca Posted August 17, 2022 Author Share Posted August 17, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, TheConsultant said: My point was that it propagates like soundwaves, not as you have stated above. So not end of, learn the fundamental principles of most of the content you are posting. Also sound in solids travels with both a traverse and longitundinal component mirroring exactly how EM propagates with both axial planes you not corrected it ...just add pointless confusion and distraction to your "theories" and even if your "theories were correct it would make not difference to the point of my post and just confuse people more .... no EM waves don`t propagate like sound waves at all ....sound waves need a medium to travel throw for a start and travel extremely slow compared to EM waves etc .... now any more and I will see you as trolling and report you ..end off ...you not adding anything useful to the discussion your own diagram proves they are completely different ...haha Edited August 17, 2022 by Deca Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TheConsultant Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Deca said: you not corrected it ...just add pointless confusion and distraction to your "theories" and even if your "theories were correct it would make not difference to the point of my post and just confuse people more .... no EM waves don`t propagate like sound waves at all ....sound waves need a medium to travel throw for a start and travel extremely slow compared to EM waves etc .... now any more and I will see you as trolling and report you ..end off ...you not adding anything useful to the discussion How is that not similar? Also, Electromagnetism IS the field/medium vibrating much like sound vibrates air, the nitrogen/oxygen etc. Very similar is it not? If you see a correction as trolling and attempting to have a discussion well more fool you. Edited August 17, 2022 by TheConsultant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deca Posted August 17, 2022 Author Share Posted August 17, 2022 (edited) now you are changing the subject... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_radiation Quote Radar energy expands during both the signal transmission and the reflected return, so the inverse square for both paths means that the radar will receive energy according to the inverse fourth power of the range. To prevent dilution of energy while propagating a signal, certain methods can be used such as a waveguide, which acts like a canal does for water, or how a gun barrel restricts hot gas expansion to one dimension in order to prevent loss of energy transfer to a bullet. but the maths gets complicated when it comes to beams .....so nice try as the inverse law is based on the light point being a sphere and spreading out equally in all direction ..not focused ..but the maths still works you just assume the light point is mathematically larger than it physically is ...ok ... I think Edited August 17, 2022 by Deca Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheConsultant Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Deca said: now you are changing the subject... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_radiation but the maths gets complicated when it comes to beams .....so nice try I didn't change subject, the inverse square law is a "waveguide" for understanding wave propagation by all of the phenomena in the image I posted above, light, electric, gravity, sound, radiation etc (which are all radiated energy). It still stands, EM is both traverse and longitudinal. E and B field as I and yourself have posted. Sound is just one axial plane and still follows the inverse square law, but is compressions and rarefactions of the medium of air, whilst EM is of course electricity and magnetism on two axial planes. If it (EM) did not have a longitudinal aspect why does that feature in many equations for electromagnetism? Also I think you have posted about DEW before? what is that to you? A laser does not follow the inverse square law as its "focused" "coherent" light rather than diffuse light much like that of a lightbulb, or even radiofrequencies. The radiation is essentially constructive interference that makes the radiation propagate in a tight beam rather than spreading out by following E=MC2. Doubling over distance. Edited August 17, 2022 by TheConsultant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deca Posted August 17, 2022 Author Share Posted August 17, 2022 er have you not bothered to read the thread " Deca`s Neuroweapons/Electronic Harassment & Mind Control Research thread" that would explain your irreverent off topic "free energy" dribble on my thread ....please stick to your own thread stop spamming mine ok I am not interested in your stuff or wasting my time debating you ...it serves no useful purpose for me .... last warning ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheConsultant Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Deca said: er have you not bothered to read the thread " Deca`s Neuroweapons/Electronic Harassment & Mind Control Research thread" that would explain your irreverent off topic "free energy" dribble on my thread ....please stick to your own thread stop spamming mine ok I am not interested in your stuff or wasting my time debating you ...it serves no useful purpose for me .... last warning ... I haven't mentioned free energy on this thread whatsoever? I have zero interest in debating you, I am telling you you are erroneous in what you posted and you still cannot just accept that and move on? It appears you aren't even following what I am saying at all in fact, I am pretty sure I have not once mentioned "free energy" in this thread, at all, or even eluded to it once, bar this post of course. Edited August 17, 2022 by TheConsultant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deca Posted August 17, 2022 Author Share Posted August 17, 2022 (edited) please explain what benefit any of your post does for this victims that are getting bombard with microwave hearing effect V2K and are desperately trying to prove or block it...and also trying to understand how it works ? …YOUR POST HAS ADD NONE OK JUST ADDED confusion …..from my simple explanation on how you can`t record v2k with a bog standard microphone FFS .... Edited August 17, 2022 by Deca Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deca Posted August 17, 2022 Author Share Posted August 17, 2022 I suppose wifi works via sound waves now ....does it ..idiot 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheConsultant Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 Just now, Deca said: I suppose wifi works via sound waves now ....does it ..idiot At no point have I said anything like that, not once. Clearly two separate things, but propagate similarly, unlike your GCSE bitesize video suggests. Or the initial post I commented on. The more you reply the more I read of the thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deca Posted August 17, 2022 Author Share Posted August 17, 2022 (edited) look for the context of the post and of how EM waves propagate differently from sound wave in "AIR" and how EM waves can`t be recorded with standard microphone like sound waves ...... now you jumping in on my post and not understanding the context/purpose of the post is just spamming now so YOU MY BE RIGHT IN A DIFFERNT CONTEXT SUBJECT BUT NOT ON THIS and you just add pages of useless spam to my thread trying yo make yourself look like a forum self proclaimed smart ass .. I not given in depth talk on EM waves YOU DUMB ASS just enough for the purpose intended on MY THREAD AND MY TOPIC ....now go and be a forum smart ass else where ....I have better things to do with my time ps you add F all off any interest/relevance to the topic of research ....and like I have all ready Pointed out you just add spam ,confusion and distraction Edited August 17, 2022 by Deca Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deca Posted August 17, 2022 Author Share Posted August 17, 2022 (edited) 23 hours ago, TheConsultant said: I have to correct this, I wont go through the rest of the thread because I cannot be assed to but posting obviously false things irks me. But no, EM is not just traverse, the clue is in the name. Electro (electric) and magnetism (magnetic), which oscillate together in phase on two axial planes, which is why we call that old cable that carries the signal a CO-AX (meaning CO-AXIAL) cable. It is consisting of an E field and B field. The term coaxial refers to the inner conductor and the outer shield sharing a geometric axis. The geometric axis is to shield from the magnetic component. As seen below: WTF ...is the shite and why has it any relevance on this thread ???? i.e on how "v2k" voice to skull or microwave hearing or frey effect works !!!!!! Edited August 17, 2022 by Deca Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheConsultant Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 (edited) Well aware of how the Frey effect works, it goes against many orthodox scientific views and it ties in to my thread on here. I do not need this stuff explaining to me, definitely not from you. I have not said a word regarding microwave auditory effect/frey effect, I simply stated that your GCSE post and the initial post regarding EM wave propagation is incorrect. It may well be your thread, I hopped in to correct something quite obviously wrong. The context of the thread or the discussion doesn't change the laws of nature. Edited August 17, 2022 by TheConsultant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deca Posted August 17, 2022 Author Share Posted August 17, 2022 14 minutes ago, TheConsultant said: Well aware of how the Frey effect works, it goes against many orthodox scientific views and it ties in to my thread on here. I do not need this stuff explaining to me, definitely not from you. I have not said a word regarding microwave auditory effect/frey effect, I simply stated that your GCSE post and the initial post regarding EM wave propagation is incorrect. It may well be your thread, I hopped in to correct something quite obviously wrong. The context of the thread or the discussion doesn't change the laws of nature. well take up with these guy were I nicked the image from and stop bothering me and thanks now I have a better image https://depositphotos.com/188577526/stock-illustration-longitudinal-and-transverse-wave-type.html 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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