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Does anyone know about this group of people--https://gov-nt.com/


A young cousin of mine, who is somewhat clueless about these things, and too trusting, got an email from someone calling himself an ambassador of this 'nation' and talking about meeting for membership etc... Is this some kind of freemason society, mafia 'front' group...or just nutcases..? 

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Keep away. Freemasonic lunatics.


Fed-honey trap and worse.


Stay free. Don't join anything. Just hit the gym and learn how to make money and defend yourself physically and psychically.



All of these right wing movements have people in key positions who will release membership lists and cause right-wingers to lose their jobs at any time.

It happens again and again and again and again.... and if not that then someone can do a false flag in the name of that organisation and suddenly you are a terrorist.



Just speak to your neighbours and organise on that level.




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David Icke states that the Knights Templars (Order of the Temple of Solomon) (founded 1118) transformed into the Knights of the Order of the Garter (founded 1348).


This aligns with the structure of modern freemasonry - the Grand Masters of the United Grand Lodge of England being Knights of the Garter and the modern Templar Knights standing on the TOP STEP of the York Rite of Freemasonry.











Knights Trivia Quiz link (MS Powerpoint) to see how much you really  know about Knights (ancient and modern).





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From my new book....coming soon:


The Freemason Andrew Michael Ramsey states that Freemasonry was created by the Crusader knights, stating that medieval crusaders, likely the Knights Templar, founded Freemasonry. But there is a myth of an even earlier foundation according to Freemason Henrik Bogdan in his paper entitled An Introduction to the High Degrees of Freemasonry:


“The name Heredon, more commonly spelled as Heredom (and sometimes as Harodim), is the name given to a mythical mountain supposed to exist north of Kilwinning, Scotland. According to a Masonic myth, associated particularly with Ecossais Masonry, the Masons were driven away from Jerusalem after the destruction of the Temple of Jerusalem and subsequently found their way to this mountain in Scotland. They remained on this mountain until the time of the Crusades.”


Lodge Mother Kilwinning is generally held to be the oldest Masonic lodge in the world and has its origins in the 12th Century, almost 500 years prior to Freemasonry’s supposed creation in London at the Apple Tree Tavern in 1716. Freemasonry in Scotland supposedly developed under the reign of King David I and the Heredom degree with a Rosy Cross degree originating in 1314 following the Battle of Bannockburn which has long been rumoured to have been decisively won in Scotland’s favour due to the intercession of a band of mysterious knights.


One of the earliest known reference to the Rosicrucians was in a poem The Muses Threnodie from 1638 by Scotsman  Henry Adamson:


“For we be brethren of the Rosie Crosse,

 We have the Mason word, and second sight, 

Things for to come we can foretell aright..”


Robert Fludd wrote several works on the Rosy Cross in the early 17th century; Fludd has also been called ‘the Father of Freemasonry’. Robert Fludd spent time studying with the Jesuits in Pyrenees. His theory of the ‘tripartite’ nature of creation where he believes that ‘the divine light’ was the active agent responsible for creation and that the sun literally contains the ‘Spirit of the Lord’ and that this same ‘spirit’ circulates through man is interesting and predates my own and other theories of the true nature of light as the transcendent God element of reality and my own writing where I indicate that the sun is a portal connecting this higher subatomic realm of infinite God energy and sending it out into our material realm to populate the universe with life.


A very early Rosicrucian illustration from 1604 shows the ‘Tree of Sophia’ and bears a strong concordance with the Kabbalistic Tree of Life and also has Hebrew writing on it. Robert Fludd was also said to have been a Kabbalist. The famous satirist writer of Gulliver’s Travels and Freemason Jonathan Swift writes of the history of Masonry in Scotland:


“The famous old Scottish lodge of Kilwinnin of which all the Kings of Scotland have been from Time to Time Grand Masters without interruption, down from the days of Fergus, who reigned more than 2000 years ago, long before the Knights of St. John of Jerusalem or the Knights of Malta, to which lodges I nevertheless allow the Honour of having adorned the Antient Jewish and Pagan Masonry with Religious and Christian Rules.”


He also makes an allusion to Rosicrucians and expressly associates it with Kabbalah:


“Fergus…was carefully instructed in all the Arts and Sciences, especially in the Natural Magick, and the Caballistical Philosophy (afterwards called the Rosecrution) by the Pagan Druids of Ireland and Mona, the only true Caballists then Extant in the Western World… I am told by Men of Learning that the Occult as well as Moral Philosophy of all the Pagans was well besprinkled and enrich’d from the Caballistical School of the Patriarchs…and Rabbins.”


Laurence Dermott Irish Grand Secretary of the ‘antient’ movement of Freemasonry of the middle of the 18th century also refers to a Kabbalistic tradition endemic and perhaps fundamental to Freemasonry.


“…that at Solomon’s Temple (and not before) it received the Name of Free-Masonry, because the Masons at Jerusalem and Tyre were the greatest Cabalists* then in the World; that the Mystery has been, for the most Part, practiced amongst Builders since Solomon’s Time.”


From the excellent researcher Marsha Schuchard in her article about Scottish Kabbalistic Freemasonry:


“….his reference to Ramon Lull provides a good starting point for my narrative, which will chronologically trace some “ancient” sources of the ‘Antients.’ Why did Swift assert that the teachings of Lull, the 13th-century Spanish mystic and polymath, could provide a key to the very essence of Masonry?  Lull had drawn on Cabalistic and Sufi mystical teachings to develop mnemonic and meditation techniques that made possible encyclopedic learning and architectural visualization, which he believed were useful accomplishments for stonemasons and other craftsmen, and for his friends among the crusading Knights Templar, who could thus become ‘illuminated’ knights.


To develop the Art of Memory, Lull drew upon the meditation techniques of Jewish Merkabah mysticism and the Sepher Yetzirah, in which the adept rebuilds the Temple of Jerusalem in his imagination. As the Art developed, it involved the visualization of a building, palace, or temple in which images of intellectual concepts, historical facts, and/or geometrical relations were placed in special rooms, which facilitated their permanent placement in the initiate’s memory and mind. In a condensed and simplified form, it was useful to the operative mason’s ability to visualize complex geometrical and structural relations through architectural imaging. The intense mental concentration sometimes produced a trance state, in which some practitioners believed that they achieved prophetic vision or ‘second sight.’”


We find something like an ‘agenda’ of the Rosicrucians made explicit in the Confessio Fraternitatis printed in 1615:


"What think you, loving people, and how seem you affected, seeing that you now understand and know, that we acknowledge ourselves truly and sincerely to profess Christ, condemn the Pope, addict ourselves to the true Philosophy, lead a Christian life, and daily call, entreat and invite many more unto our Fraternity, unto whom the same Light of God likewise appeareth?"


The anti-Catholic tenor ought to intrigue us and perhaps could be part of the demonstrated movement to destroy Christianity piecemeal by first dividing it with schism and then opposing the arms of Catholics and Protestants against each other, at least this is what we can ascertain if we plot the activities of the international merchant class from the period of Henry VIII and Thomas Cromwell through the various revolutionary movements culminating, at least for now in the Russian Revolution.


.............................The Mandaeans claim to be from a monotheistic tradition which predates Islam, Christianity and Judaism. The Mandaeans believe the world is created by a synergy of the holy spirit ‘Ruha’ which is similar to the concept of Shekinah, the Mandaeans view as a negative force as the lower distinctly feminine, emotional nature of the human mind. They believe that Adam was created by an evil demiurge Ptahil, which used a spirit from the underworld: Ruha to animate Adam but that his soul is from the light world. The lightworld soul apparently then reveals Nasiruta to him and his wife Hawwa (Eve) the Mandaean gnosis which involved him freeing his soul and spirit to return to the Lightworld. Ruha as a spirit, uses the planetary spirits to infect Adam’s mind to prevent him hearing the voice of his soul.


The Mandaeans have a ritual handshake: the Kushta, or handshake of truth, and it resembles a Masonic handshake in that the thumb is pressed to the knuckle of the other person’s hand. The thing which makes me consider whether somehow, part of the Mandaean cult cross-pollinated with the Kabbalah to become what we know of as the Freemasons is the fact that the Knights of Saint John, who along with the Knights Templars, brought the Eastern esoteric tradition to the West, are named after John the Baptist, whom the Mandaeans hold in special reverence and it is even said that both orders placed Saint John higher even than Jesus. The Templars were even said to have been in the possession of the head of John the Baptist to which they offered prayers. Furthermore the feast day of John the Baptist is 24th June a day which is also celebrated by the Freemasons and Freemasonry actively acknowledges John the Baptist as one of its patron saints. But it is also possible that the Freemasons have adopted elements of Sabaeanism if we look at the clue of the Masonic tracing board which shows seven ‘stars’ which are the seven planets which were worshipped by the Sabaeans, and the sun and moon have prominent place on the Masonic tracing board and it was these two principal bodies which the Sabaeans worshipped. Much of the ritual behaviour of the Sabaeans became later subsumed into Islam but their worship of heavenly bodies ended under the monotheism of Islam.


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