The homosexual elite and the velvet mafia

[Anti Facts Sir]

5 minutes ago, Golden Retriever said:

 

 

They don't want straight white men or women, nor their babies.

 

The social engineering is obvious and you know it.

Out of reactions, but exactly.

[Macnamara]

1 minute ago, Golden Retriever said:

They don't want straight white men nor women, nor their babies.

 

The social engineering is obvious and you know it.

 

i have nothing against gay people. My brother is gay and i've met lots of nice gay people through him as well as elsewhere

 

but if we step back from all of this and look at things in a more detached way (which i what i do when interpreting things through the conspiracy lens whilst some people maybe then take it personally) so that we can understand the world in terms of the conspiracy then we can ask ourselves questions....

 

here's the thing about gay people.....they don't tend to reproduce

 

The elites do not want certain people reproducing

 

Trans people who have operations and take hormones often destroy their ability to reproduce

 

The covid jabs are strongly suspected by many of us to affect fertility

 

Endocrine disrupting chemicals cause all sorts of fertility issues from crashing sperm counts to genital deformities

 

All of these things are imo aimed at destroying our reproductive health

 

Another way the cabal seek to do this is to attack the nuclear family to try and prevent large families

[Golden Retriever]

3 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

because GR said that i didn't like her thread

 

i found that a bizarre statement seeing as i keep posting lots of good information in her thread

 

you'd think she'd be pleased......is there something in the air tonight? what's up with you two?

 

it's like you are both in a different planet

 

I'll have to reread the comments Mac. When I mentioned our two different threads about the rise

in homosexuality years ago, you said your thread wasn't about homosexuality. I really thought it was

[Macnamara]

2 minutes ago, RobSS said:

Of course they are after all the things you mention but in previous times they were after different kinds of people. All these things are like skittles they knock off one after the other. At the moment, the main skittle they want to knock of is the straight, white male, then they'll see who is left that is strong, and then they'll start finding ways of attacking those, etc....

 

yes

 

so.....what exactly are we disagreeing about here?

[RobSS]

10 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

but how much of what is being blamed on the catholic church is actually down to the catholic church if it has been infiltrated?

 

bare in mind the jesuits were created in the 1500's by kabbalist marrano jews led by ignatius loyolla

 

 

Freemasonry and the Subversion of the Catholic Church

By John Vennari
Editor, Catholic Family News
Transcript of a Speech given at the Fatima Peace Conference in Rome, October, 2001

This talk will be a brief expose of the 19th Century Masonic document “The Permanent Instruction of the Alta Vendita”, which mapped out a blueprint, a plan, which will help us to understand what is the “diabolic disorientation of the upper hierarchy” of which Sister Lucy spoke. The Permanent Instruction of the Alta Vendita, I believe, explains the root of that diabolic disorientation.

The Alta Vendita was the highest lodge of the Carbonari, an Italian secret society with links to Freemasonry and which, along with Freemasonry, was condemned by the Catholic Church.1 Father E. Cahill, SJ, in his book Freemasonry and the Anti-Christian Movement states that the Alta Vendita was “commonly supposed to have been at the time the governing center of European Freemasonry”2 The Carbonari were most active in Italy and France.

In his book Athanasius and the Church of Our Time, Bishop Rudolph Graber quoted a Freemason who declared that “the goal (of Freemasonry) is no longer the destruction of the Church, but to make use of it by infiltrating it.”3

In other words, since Freemasonry cannot completely obliterate Christ’s Church, it plans not only to eradicate the influence of Catholicism in society, but to use the Church’s structure as an instrument of “renewal,” “progress” and “enlightenment” - as means of furthering many of its own principles and goals.

An Outline

The strategy advanced in the Permanent Instruction of the Alta Vendita is astonishing in its audacity and cunning. From the start, the document tells of a process that will take decades to accomplish. Those who drew up the document knew that they would not see its fulfillment. They were inaugurating a work that would be carried on by succeeding generations of the initiated. The Permanent Instruction says, “In our ranks the soldier dies and the struggle goes on.”

The Instruction called for the dissemination of liberal ideas and axioms throughout society and within the institutions of the Catholic Church so that laity, seminarians, clerics and prelates would, over the years, gradually be imbued with progressive principles.

In time, this mind-set would be so pervasive that priests would be ordained, bishops would be consecrated, and cardinals would be nominated whose thinking was in step with the modern thought rooted in the “Principles of 1789” (pluralism, equality of religions, separation of Church and State, etc.)

Eventually, a Pope would be elected from these ranks who would lead the Church on the path of “enlightenment and renewal”. It must be stressed that it was not their aim to place a Freemason on the Chair of Peter. Their goal was to effect an environment that would eventually produce a Pope and a hierarchy won over to the ideas of liberal Catholicism, all the while believing themselves to be faithful Catholics.

These Catholic leaders, then, would no longer oppose the modern ideas of the revolution (as had been the consistent practice of the Popes from 1789 until 1958 who condemned these liberal principles) but would amalgamate them into the Church. The end result would be a Catholic clergy and laity marching under the banner of the enlightenment all the while thinking they are marching under the banner of the Apostolic keys.

Is it Possible?

For those who may believe this scheme to be too far- fetched, a goal too hopeless for the enemy to attain, it should be noted that both Pope Pius IX and Pope Leo XIII asked that the Permanent Instruction be published, no doubt, in order to prevent such a tragedy from taking place. These great Pontiffs knew that such a calamity was not impossible.

https://www.freemasonrywatch.org/alta_vendita.html

 

The Catholic Church was already rotten and corrupted by the Pagan Ancient Babylonian Mystery religion before it was infiltrated by the Cabal.

 

 

 

[RobSS]

Just now, Macnamara said:

 

yes

 

so.....what exactly are we disagreeing about here?

 

It's not always about finding disagreements, it's about clarifying things too.

 

 

 

[Golden Retriever]

6 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

yes

 

so.....what exactly are we disagreeing about here?

 

Because this isn't about homosexual Joe Public.

 

Read my OP

 

It's about a disproportioate amount of homosexual and now transsexual people in power making

policy. Bloody hell can't you see it?

 

Edited September 21, 2021 by Golden Retriever

[Macnamara]

17 minutes ago, Golden Retriever said:

I'll have to reread the comments Mac. When I mentioned our two different threads about the rise

in homosexuality years ago, you said your thread wasn't about homosexuality. I really thought it was

 

you mean cap'n muirs thread....

 

that thread was about endocrine disruption

 

endocrine disruption has many negative health effects for example it causes genital deformities, causes early onset puberty in girls and destroys sperm counts

 

it feminises men and is causing a massive rise in gender identity issues as well as people seeking fertility treatments in order to be able to have a baby

 

did the 'metrosexual' become a thing because glossy mens magazines changed the cultural focus of men or because men were actually undergoing a physiological shift due to exposure to endocrine disrupting chemicals?

 

If chemicals ARE causing physiological changes can we then consider that the shift in mens fashions (eg wearing make-up, carrying 'man bags', increased obsession on appearance and fashion etc) are in fact being pushed to hide the biological changes by making them appear NORMAL ie by creating new norms?

 

That i believe was muirs hypothesis

Edited September 22, 2021 by Macnamara

[RobSS]

11 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

because GR said that i didn't like her thread

 

i found that a bizarre statement seeing as i keep posting lots of good information in her thread

 

you'd think she'd be pleased......is there something in the air tonight? what's up with you two?

 

it's like you are both in a different planet

 

Thanks for explaining that. You were exasperated with GR, made a comment you might not otherwise have made in such a manner and then it was taken the wrong way. This is obviously something that should be taken into account.

 

 

Edited September 21, 2021 by RobSS

[Macnamara]

3 minutes ago, RobSS said:

It's not always about finding disagreements, it's about clarifying things too.

 

ok current barriers to the new world order include:

 

-the US constitution (which protects the rights of the individual against the tyranny of an over-bearing government)

-the right to bare arms (which can be used to protect those rights)

-christianity (which can be used to support the sanctity of life and the assertion that all humans are given inalienable rights by the creator)

-white males (or any colour males and women) who own guns, believe in the constitution and their god given rights

 

Once you understand this you understand why the corporate controlled 'woke' fake-left is constantly attacking those things

 

It has managed to pull the wool over a lot of black and hispanic peoples eyes to trick them into also turning on people who believe in the above things however the NWO has no intention of taking black and hispanic people to any kind of future utopia; it is just duping them to achieve its goals

[Macnamara]

4 minutes ago, RobSS said:

Thanks for explaining that. You were exasperated with GR, made a comment you might not otherwise have made in such a manner and then it was taken the wrong way. This is obviously something that should be taken into account.

 

if you go back you can read GR's post that i was responding to

[RobSS]

14 minutes ago, Golden Retriever said:

 

They don't want straight white men or women, nor their babies.

 

The social engineering is obvious and you know it.

 

 

That's their present focus, yes. In the past they persecuted black people, gays and all sorts of groups. They have a long term strategy that affects different peoples at different times. At one time they may build one group up and further down the line they'll knock them down, as they reshape and remould society as they want it. Ultimately, they won't succeed.

[Macnamara]

29 minutes ago, Golden Retriever said:

Because this isn't about homosexual Joe Public.

 

Read my OP

 

It's about a disproportioane amount of homosexual and now transsexual people in power making

policy. Bloody hell

 

what do you think i've been talking about GR?

Edited September 22, 2021 by Macnamara

[RobSS]

1 minute ago, Macnamara said:

 

ok current barriers to the new world order include:

 

-the US constitution (which protects the rights of the individual against the tyranny of an over-bearing government)

-the right to bare arms (which can be used to protect those rights)

-christianity (which can be used to support the sanctity of life and the assertion that all humans are given inalienable rights by the creator)

-white males (or any colour males and women) who own guns, believe in the constitution and their god given rights

 

Once you understand this you understand why the corporate controlled 'woke' fake-left is constantly attacking those things

 

It has managed to pull the wool over a lot of black and hispanic peoples eyes to trick them into also turning on people who believe in the above things however the NWO has no intention of taking black and hispanic people to any kind of future utopia; it is just duping them to achieve its goals

 

Yes, they serve the Father of lies.

 

 

[Macnamara]

1 minute ago, RobSS said:

That's their present focus, yes. In the past they persecuted black people,

 

yeah they were behind the trans-national slave trade which they have tried to blame on straight white males when in fact it was christian abolitionists who ended slavery

[RobSS]

11 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

yeah they were behind the trans-national slave trade which they have tried to blame on straight white males when in fact it was christian abolitionists who ended slavery

 

 

Yes, they persecute different groups and then get them to turn on and blame each other. In addition they co-opt causes, like black rights and gay rights, which are all basically a good thing, and then they start manipulating those groups to take bizarre extreme positions, so that other groups end up hating them.... They basically want everyone fighting and hating each other.

 

 

Edited September 22, 2021 by RobSS

[RobSS]

[double post]

Edited September 22, 2021 by RobSS

[Macnamara]

Debates at Davos Get Around to Gay Rights

By Andrew Ross Sorkin

January 19, 2015 9:14 pm

Daniel S. Loeb, the founder of Third Point, pushed for discussion of gay rights at Davos.Credit Steve Marcus/Reuters

 

Oleg Deripaska, a Russian billionaire investor, was so moved by the panel that he started making calls to friends in his home country that day to begin a dialogue before the following month’s Winter Olympic Games in Sochi, Russia, which became a global lightning rod for human-rights criticism.

https://dealbook.nytimes.com/2015/01/19/debates-at-davos-finally-will-include-gay-rights/

Ireland’s first openly-gay prime minister introduces Mike Pence to his boyfriend

By Sky Palma

Posted on March 14, 2019

Ireland’s prime minister Leo Varadkar visited the White House for the second time this Thursday, where he thanked President Trump for easing sanctions on Russian oligarch Oleg Deripaska

https://deadstate.org/irelands-first-openly-gay-prime-minister-introduces-mike-pence-to-his-boyfriend/

The Russian oligarch, the Old Etonian billionaire and deeply disturbing questions about Lord Mandelson's integrity

By Richard Pendlebury
Updated: 07:01 BST, 11 February 2012

(from left): Peter Munk, the Canadian founder and chairman of the world's largest gold-producing corporation, Lord Mandelson, oligarch Oleg Deripaska and financier Nat Rothschild as they visit the Siberian smelter

And the smiling man at the centre of this high-powered group?

None other than Peter (now Lord) Mandelson, architect of the New Labour project, former close adviser to Tony Blair and Business Secretary in Gordon Brown’s Cabinet.

At the time these photographs were taken, in January 2005, Mandelson was the EU Trade Commissioner.

But for all the formal poses, hard hats, heavy industrial surroundings and tycoon entourage, Mandelson was in Siberia on a very unofficial basis.

They show something of the extraordinary, all-expenses paid (but officially undeclared) journey, in which Mandelson was taken to within a few hundred miles of the Mongolian border.

The circumstances of, and motives behind, this trip were the focus of a £1.25 million libel trial which ended yesterday in a milestone victory for the Daily Mail. The action had been brought by Nat Rothschild.

We had said that Rothschild encouraged an inappropriately close relationship between Mandelson and Deripaska; one which exposed the then EU commissioner to allegations of conflict of interest and endangered the dignity of his office.

This was politically explosive.

Mandelson’s fondness for the generosity of the super-rich had twice before seen him have to resign from British ministerial positions.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2099639/The-Russian-oligarch-Old-Etonian-billionaire-deeply-disturbing-questions-Lord-Mandelsons-integrity.html

[Macnamara]

7 minutes ago, RobSS said:

They basically want everyone fighting and hating each other.

 

to quote bob marley they want everyone 'fussing and fighting'

[RobSS]

Stonewall boss defends new strategy amid criticism

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-57281448

 

Highlights from the article:

 

Stonewall head Nancy Kelley has defended the organisation's position amid a freedom of speech row and criticism from a founder.

Matthew Parris said in the Times that Stonewall had become "tangled up in the trans issue" and "cornered into an extremist stance".

But Ms Kelley told the BBC she was "really comfortable" with the direction the charity was going in.

 

She likened so-called "gender critical" beliefs to anti-Semitism.

 

[...]

 

Journalist and former Tory MP Matthew Parris, one of Stonewall's 14 founders, recently suggested the charity had "lost its way".

In an article for the Times, he said: "The organisation is tangled up in the trans issue, cornered into an extremist stance on a debate that a charity formed to help gay men, lesbian women and bisexual people should never have got itself into."  

 

Ms Kelley said while Mr Parris was entitled to his views, being trans-inclusive was the "absolute norm" for LGBT organisations.

 

 

 

 

Edited September 22, 2021 by RobSS

[Macnamara]

59 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

but how much of what is being blamed on the catholic church is actually down to the catholic church if it has been infiltrated?

 

this is important because for example the remains of indigenous people found in the grounds of a catholic school in canada recently

 

were the people behind those crimes catholic in a traditional sense or were they part of the wider satanic network that reaches into the catholic church and other institutions in the west and beyond?

Canadian Indigenous group says human remains found at former Catholic Church-run residential school

Posted Thu 1 Jul 2021 at 5:26amThursday 1 Jul 2021 at 5:26am, updated Thu 1 Jul 2021 at 5:38am

A Canadian Indigenous group said on Wednesday a search using ground-penetrating radar has found 182 human remains in unmarked graves at a site near a former Catholic Church-run residential school that housed Indigenous children taken from their families.

The latest discovery of graves near Cranbrook, British Columbia follows reports of similar findings at two other such church-run schools, one of more than 600 unmarked graves and another of 215 bodies.

The Lower Kootenay Band said in a news release that it began using the technology last year to search the site close to the former St Eugene's Mission School, which was operated by the Catholic Church from 1912 until the early 1970s.

It said the search found the remains in unmarked graves, some about a metre deep.

It's believed the remains are those of people from the bands of the Ktunaxa nation, which includes the Lower Kootenay Band, and neighbouring First Nation communities.

Chief Jason Louie of the Lower Kootenay Band called the discovery "deeply personal" since he had relatives attend the school.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-07-01/indigenous-graves-canada-residential-schools-church-182/100258866

[EnigmaticWorld]

9 hours ago, RobSS said:

A lot of people don't have the courage to say things as they are

 

Hahahahaha! I have heard it all now.

 

That's rich coming from you. The person that usually points the thinger at those that are abused for complaining, instead of noticing those that are doing the abusing. You're the coward or subversive.

 

Absolutely had it with you. Your arguments usually boil down to telling people not to complain about having war waged on them because that's "what the government wants". Bollocks, they want to silence us while they destroy us.

 

I'm out of here. Had enough of reading your cringepilled BS.

 

Mods, sorry if I'm getting angry with this dude, ban me if you like.

[RobSS]

[see post below..]

 

 

Edited September 22, 2021 by RobSS

[RobSS]

4 hours ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

 

Hahahahaha! I have heard it all now.

 

That's rich coming from you. The person that usually points the thinger at those that are abused for complaining, instead of noticing those that are doing the abusing. You're the coward or subversive.

 

Please give an example of where I've ignored those doing the abusing, and where I've pointed at those that are abused for complaining. Unless you give something specific, I can't respond. What exactly have I written that you don't like?

 

4 hours ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

 

Absolutely had it with you. Your arguments usually boil down to telling people not to complain about having war waged on them because that's "what the government wants". Bollocks, they want to silence us while they destroy us.

 

I'm out of here. Had enough of reading your cringepilled BS.

 

Mods, sorry if I'm getting angry with this dude, ban me if you like.

 

Again, there's no substance to anything you've just written. It's just a lot of hot air. It's all rather vague.

 

But I know very well why you're angry with me. It's because of what else I posted in the post that you replied to, but which you conveniently ignored, which was:

 

Quote

"It's not the Jews per se, but what a group of Jews are into regarding the occult. It goes way back in history. Christ called them "Jews that are not", and the "Synagogue of Satan. IOW, they are not real Jews. They are Satanists. A lot of people don't have the courage to say things as they are, but that's the truth of the matter."

 

I'd also add:

 

"I know your affliction and distress and pressing trouble and your poverty — but you are rich! and how you are abused and reviled and slandered by those who say they are Jews and are not, but are a synagogue of Satan." (Revelation 2:9)

 

Please address the issues, thanks.

 

 

Edited September 22, 2021 by RobSS

[Mikheil]

21 hours ago, RobSS said:

 

I agree real men wouldn't mask up, etc. but there are men resisting and not complying.

 

 

By participating in peaceful protest and watching women being brutalized by the flatfoots?