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5 minutes ago, Golden Retriever said:

Peter Mandelson is a homosexual Mac.  Is he OK because he's gay.

 

You don't like this thread do you.

 

what are you talking about?

 

I'm the one filling the thread up with information that can help people see that there is an organised web of people controlling society who are pushing various agendas onto society

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Just now, Macnamara said:

 

i don't agree with that

 

i think many gay people went into the roman catholic church and it was a career path for gay people for a long time and an avenue to power

 

 

I agree, there is a velvet mafia in the RC Church that's up to no good, but ordinary people who went to church were badly damaged by guilt complexes. Public schools did the same thing.

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Golden Retriever said:

Please give different sources from now on otherwise I might think you are being paid.

 

no cheques coming my way!

 

i have probably pissed off everyone at some point so i'm not sure exactly who it is that you think would be writing me those cheques!

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3 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

what are you talking about?

 

I'm the one filling the thread up with information that can help people see that there is an organised web of people controlling society who are pushing various agendas onto society

 

You have persistently been giving Daily Mail sources for years. Why?

 

I do very occassionaly but usually with a proviso

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2 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

I'm the one filling the thread up with information...

 

 

You should really let other people decide about that. David Icke never blows his own trumpet like that and if he did, he wouldn't have half as many people listening to him. let people make up their own minds. Take it or leave it.

 

 

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4 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

what are you talking about?

 

I'm the one filling the thread up with information that can help people see that there is an organised web of people controlling society who are pushing various agendas onto society

 

No you're not

 

You're not giving anyone any information about a gay political, corporate and media mafia

 

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I agree, there is a velvet mafia in the RC Church that's up to no good, but ordinary people who went to church were badly damaged by guilt complexes. Public schools did the same thing.

 

compared to what though?

 

compared to a world dominated by marxist feminists?

 

consider also that the catholic church is completely infiltrated

 

not only has the secret society network infiltrated the RC church and got a jesuit into the popes chair but the communists (another wing of the same secret society network) have also according to this lady filled its ranks with their members (the long march through the institutions):

Bella Dodd — How Communists Subverted the Catholic Church

September 20, 2018

 

 

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(left. In 1952, Bella Dodd, a former member of the CPUSA executive 

 

 
testified to a Senate Committee
about Communist subversion
.)
 
 
Illuminati = Cabalist Judaism = Freemasonry = Communism = Satanism  
 
Below, Randy Engel explains that Communists infiltrated
and brought the church into disrepute. 
 
Protocols of the Elders of Zion-17:
“When the time comes finally to destroy the papal court…we shall come forward in the guise of its defenders…[Jesuits?] By this diversion we shall penetrate to its very bowels and be sure we shall never come out again until we have gnawed through the entire strength of this place.” 
 
 
 
 
 
Bela Dodd describes Communism as “a strange secret cult” whose goal is the destruction of Western (i.e. Christian) Civilization. Millions of naive idealists (“innocents”) are tricked by its talk of helping the poor, but it cares only for power. For example, Dodd found there was no social research at party headquarters. “We are a revolutionary party, not a reform party,” she was told. (163) The goal is to destroy not to improve.
 
 
The Rite of Sodomy (2006) Ch. 18
by Randy Engel
(henrymakow.com) 
 
 
After their debriefings by the FBI and appearances at public and closed-door Congressional hearings, a number of Communist Party defectors took their stories directly to the American people. Bella Dodd was among these brave souls.
 
Born in Italy in 1904, into a Catholic family of nine children, Maria Asunta Isabella Visono joined her immigrant family in the United States six years later. Despite the language barrier, she became an excellent and highly motivated student. After graduation from high school, she attended Hunter College, where like Elizabeth Bentley, her exceptional talents attracted the attention of Communist professors who served as talent spotters for CP/USA and Soviet GPU and NKVD recruiters. She then went on to New York University School of Law after which she became an active member of the CP/USA.
 

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In her autobiography School of Darkness, Bella Dodd describes her total absorption by the Party to the exclusion of any meaningful personal and family life and her 21-year rise up the CP/USA ladder from legal counsel specializing in labor matters to a political powerhouse in the Soviet-controlled East Coast apparatus. She became the head of the New York State Teachers’ Union and a specialist in the infiltration and control of various educational-related organizations.[i] She was also active in women’s groups such as the Congress of American Women and numerous Communist “peace” fronts.
 
Her fall from grace and expulsion from the Communist Party in the early 1950s eventually led her to the doorstep of Bishop Fulton J. Sheen in New York and a return to the Catholic faith.
 
During this time period, Dr. Dodd was subpoenaed for Senate Committee hearings regarding areas in which she had particular expertise – Communist infiltration of labor unions and educational institutions.
 
Her testimony was always concise, direct and truthful.  Dodd also embarked on a series of private lecture tours for Catholic audiences in which Dodd spoke of the infiltration of churches by Soviet agents and Communist fellow travelers.[ii]
 
 She [Bella Dodd] said that of all the world’s religions, the Catholic Church was the only one feared by the Communists, for it was its only effective opponent.
 
 Speaking as an ex-Communist, she said: “In the 1930’s, we put eleven hundred men into the priesthood in order to destroy the Church from within.” The idea was for these men to be ordained and then climb the ladder of influence and authority – to come to be Monsignors and Bishops. Back then she said, “Right now they are in the highest places, and they are working to bring about change in order that the Catholic Church will no longer be effective against Communism.”
 
She also said that these changes would be so drastic that “you will not recognize the Catholic Church.” Once these men had become bishops, their influence could be widely spread because “Bishops beget bishops” and these agents would use their influence to elevate and promote clergymen who are not necessarily dedicated Communists, but who were of a progressive and liberal mentality, and whose influence could be counted on to foster a new philosophy and theology within the ranks of the clergy.
 

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Once the clergy were infected they would pass this infection to the laity. The whole idea was to destroy, not the institution of the Church, but rather the Faith of the people …through the promotion of a pseudo-religion: something that resembled Catholicism but was not the real thing. Once the Faith was destroyed, then the dismantling of the institution would take place.’ She explained that there would be a guilt complex introduced into the Church . . . to label the “Church of the past” as being oppressive, authoritarian, full of prejudices, arrogant in claiming to be the sole possessor of truth, and responsible for the divisions of religious bodies throughout the centuries. This would be necessary in order to shame Church leaders into an “openness to the world” and to a more flexible attitude toward all other religions and philosophies. The Communists would then exploit this openness in order to undermine the Church.
 
What is to be made of Dr. Bella Dodd’s statements on the Communist infiltration of the Catholic Church beginning with Lenin and continuing into the Cold War era and perhaps beyond? Certainly, her claim that the Communists had drawn up plans to infiltrate the American clergy and other religious institutions was supported, at that time, by the testimony of other Communist defectors like Manning Johnson and Elizabeth Bentley. At first, her statement that “we,” presumably the Soviets, placed 1,100 men into the priesthood seems extravagant, but when one recalls that the CP/USA recruited some 35,000 teachers and professors and that the KGB included not only thousands of agents but also several million “cooperators,” then that number does not appear to be out of line.
 
Further, in 1969, Dr. Richard Day, the National Medical Director of Planned Parenthood and an Eastern Establishment figure repeated many of the same statements that Dodd had made. The date of the Day speech was March 20, 1969 and the occasion was a meeting of the Pittsburgh Pediatric Society. In “Family Planning: Infant Mortality, Gene Frequency, Abortion and Other Considerations,” Dr. Day described the workings of a New World System that he said was already in place and functioning.
 
Among other things, this New World System would replace traditional religion with a new belief system that excluded doctrine and morals, but it would appear to be the real thing, said Day. Of special interest to the Homosexual Collective is the prediction of Dr. Day that “homosexuals would be given permission to act out.” As if on cue, the Stonewall Inn riots, “a flashpoint” in the history of the Homosexual Collective that laid the foundation for the modern Homosexual Movement made national and world headlines in June 1969, just three months and one week after the Day speech. The Day lecture is analyzed by Dr. Larry Dunegan of Pittsburgh in a series of tapes and interviews with Randy Engel produced by the U.S. Coalition for Life, Export, Pa.
 
From the testimony of Dodd and other former members of the CP/USA and former Soviet intelligence agents working in the U.S., we know that both Lenin and Stalin invested the majority of their espionage talent, time and finances in the infiltration and subversion of trade unions, the labor movement, key government posts, “think-tanks” and foundations, industrial and military installations, local, state and national political parties and other secular American institutions. This does not mean, however, that the Soviets were any less successful in smaller-scale projects they undertook including the subversion of religious institutions including the Roman Catholic Church.
 
Unfortunately, while there appears to be no dearth of evidence on the successful penetration of Protestant seminaries, churches and sects in the U.S. by the Soviets from the 1930s onward, we have no comparable record of the Communist infiltration of the Catholic Church including Catholic seminaries, and churches and its hierarchical bureaucracy.
 
However, to suggest, as some skeptics have, that since Catholic seminaries and houses of religious formation are relatively  “closed societies,” they are immune from Communist subversion is to ignore the facts before us. After all, Soviet master spy Richard Sorge successfully penetrated the highest levels of Japanese society and government, which were believed to be impenetrable by Western intelligence.[iii]
 
Certainly, there were serious obstacles to infiltrating Catholic seminaries from the 1930s to the 1950s, that was not present in the case of their Protestant counterparts such as the requirement of celibacy and systematic vetting and close monitoring by superiors. The attrition rate among those Communist and Socialist radicals who volunteered or were pressured into these assignments must have been very high.
 
In his autobiography, the well-known historian Will Durant confesses that after graduation from high school in 1907 he got caught up in a flight of socialist euphoria and decided to infiltrate the priesthood in order to “work from within to lead the Catholic Church in the United States to cooperate with the socialist movement.”[iv] His experiment lasted for three years until a bad conscience got the better of him and he left Seton Hall in New Jersey for a career in journalism and a beautiful girl named Ariel, who became his wife.
 
Despite the hardships involved, however, some Soviet agents must have made it through to ordination. The key to their future success would lie in avoiding parish work and securing a desk job in a Chancery or with the National Catholic Welfare Conference. The latter would provide the agent with an opportunity for advancement up the bureaucratic ladder, with a minimum of intrusion of religion, to a position of power and influence in AmChurch. 
 
With the wholesale relaxation of standards of admission to Catholic seminaries and the precipitous decline in discipline and morals of seminarians and ordained clergy that marked the Vatican II Revolution, and the establishment of the National Conference of Catholic Bishops/U.S. Catholic Conference in Washington, D.C. in 1966 at the height of the Cold War, the doors were open to subversion on an even greater scale.[v] At the NCCB/USCC, a well-placed Soviet agent wearing a Roman collar would be capable of inflicting maximum damage to Catholic Church both in the U.S. and in Rome.
 
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[i] Budenz estimated that the CP/USA had recruited as many as 35,000 professors and teachers, many dues-paying Party members. New York City universities and colleges such as Columbia University were major targets of Soviet propaganda and recruitment as were teachers’ unions.
 
[ii] In the 1950s, a young novice at St. Vincent’s Archabbey in Latrobe, Pa. by the name of Brother Joseph Natale said he was present at a public lecture in which Bella Dodd discussed the Soviet infiltration of the Catholic Church. Brother Joseph left St. Vincent’s before taking final vows and went on to establish Holy Family Monastery in Berlin, N.J., which offered the traditional Mass of the Roman rite. The monastery also contained a Catholic printing office. Forty years after Brother Joseph heard the Dodd speech, he recalled, “I listened to that woman for four hours and she had my hair standing on end. Everything she said has been fulfilled to the letter.” His recollections were first recorded in the fall 1989 issue of “Crying in the Wilderness,” a newsletter printed by the brothers at Holy Family Monastery.
 
 
[iii] See Gordon W. Prange, Target Tokyo – The Story of the Sorge Spy Ring (New York: McGraw-Hill, 1984).
 
[iv] Will and Ariel Durant, A Dual Autobiography (New York: Simon and Schuster, 1977), 35.
 
[v] It should be remembered that Catholic seminaries and the national bureaucracy of the NCWC and the NCCB/USCC were not the only Catholic institutions to be infiltrated. Herbert Romerstein and Eric Breindel in The Venona Secrets cite the Paulist Order as a target of Soviet subversion as well as the Holy Name Society, Knights of Columbus and various Catholic trade unions. For an expanded explanation of the Communist  “Outstretched Hand” policy see Francis J. Murphy, Communists and Catholics in France 1936-1939 The Politics of the Outstretched Hand (Gainesville, Fla.: University of Florida Press, Monographs in Social Science, no. 76, 1989).
 

 

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2 hours ago, Golden Retriever said:

It's not just about the music industry, but many people who are homosexual or transexual (mainly men) run large corporations. Also are politicians both in Westminster and local councils.

I have to agree, when I was working in Sydney one of the customers was the Law society of NSW (new south wales), it's nick name was camps castle as there were more lisps per sq meter than anywhere else . The problem is that the lawyers (where this life style is endemic ) quite often move into politics ,and right there you can see the insidious nature of the degradation of society, well one of the causes anyway in my opinion .

Don't get me wrong, I couldn't care less is your gay but what pisses me off is this agenda is being push more and more by the media any chance they get ,if you are gay good luck to you just get on with it, but I don't have to hear about it .

Could you imagination the media outrage if a straight pride march was organized on the streets of Sydney.

PS I'm old enough to remember when the word gay meant you were happy

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5 minutes ago, Golden Retriever said:

You have persistently been giving Daily Mail sources for years. Why?

 

i used to read the independent then it got so woke i found it hard to stomach. During brexit i started reading the telegraph and then settled on the daily mail

 

I scan the headlines of RT every day and then the daily mail. Usually there are only one or two stories i will actually click on and read

 

Then i read davids headlines then i post on the forum

 

The daily mail is not a bad way to keep one eye on normie-land because its britains most widely read newspaper. That doesn't mean i agree with its editorial perspectives though. I haven't found a publication in clown world that i do agree with.

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Just now, Macnamara said:

 

compared to what though?

 

compared to a world dominated by marxist feminists?

 

consider also that the catholic church is completely infiltrated

 

not only has the secret society network infiltrated the RC church and got a jesuit into the popes chair but the communists (another wing of the same secret society network) have also according to this lady filled its ranks with their members (the long march through the institutions):

Bella Dodd — How Communists Subverted the Catholic Church

September 20, 2018

 

 

dodd (1).jpeg
 
(left. In 1952, Bella Dodd, a former member of the CPUSA executive 

 

 
testified to a Senate Committee
about Communist subversion
.)
 
 
Illuminati = Cabalist Judaism = Freemasonry = Communism = Satanism  
 
Below, Randy Engel explains that Communists infiltrated
and brought the church into disrepute. 
 
Protocols of the Elders of Zion-17:
“When the time comes finally to destroy the papal court…we shall come forward in the guise of its defenders…[Jesuits?] By this diversion we shall penetrate to its very bowels and be sure we shall never come out again until we have gnawed through the entire strength of this place.” 
 
 
 
 
 
Bela Dodd describes Communism as “a strange secret cult” whose goal is the destruction of Western (i.e. Christian) Civilization. Millions of naive idealists (“innocents”) are tricked by its talk of helping the poor, but it cares only for power. For example, Dodd found there was no social research at party headquarters. “We are a revolutionary party, not a reform party,” she was told. (163) The goal is to destroy not to improve.
 
 
The Rite of Sodomy (2006) Ch. 18
by Randy Engel
(henrymakow.com) 
 
 
After their debriefings by the FBI and appearances at public and closed-door Congressional hearings, a number of Communist Party defectors took their stories directly to the American people. Bella Dodd was among these brave souls.
 
Born in Italy in 1904, into a Catholic family of nine children, Maria Asunta Isabella Visono joined her immigrant family in the United States six years later. Despite the language barrier, she became an excellent and highly motivated student. After graduation from high school, she attended Hunter College, where like Elizabeth Bentley, her exceptional talents attracted the attention of Communist professors who served as talent spotters for CP/USA and Soviet GPU and NKVD recruiters. She then went on to New York University School of Law after which she became an active member of the CP/USA.
 

sod (3).jpg

In her autobiography School of Darkness, Bella Dodd describes her total absorption by the Party to the exclusion of any meaningful personal and family life and her 21-year rise up the CP/USA ladder from legal counsel specializing in labor matters to a political powerhouse in the Soviet-controlled East Coast apparatus. She became the head of the New York State Teachers’ Union and a specialist in the infiltration and control of various educational-related organizations.[i] She was also active in women’s groups such as the Congress of American Women and numerous Communist “peace” fronts.
 
Her fall from grace and expulsion from the Communist Party in the early 1950s eventually led her to the doorstep of Bishop Fulton J. Sheen in New York and a return to the Catholic faith.
 
During this time period, Dr. Dodd was subpoenaed for Senate Committee hearings regarding areas in which she had particular expertise – Communist infiltration of labor unions and educational institutions.
 
Her testimony was always concise, direct and truthful.  Dodd also embarked on a series of private lecture tours for Catholic audiences in which Dodd spoke of the infiltration of churches by Soviet agents and Communist fellow travelers.[ii]
 
 She [Bella Dodd] said that of all the world’s religions, the Catholic Church was the only one feared by the Communists, for it was its only effective opponent.
 
 Speaking as an ex-Communist, she said: “In the 1930’s, we put eleven hundred men into the priesthood in order to destroy the Church from within.” The idea was for these men to be ordained and then climb the ladder of influence and authority – to come to be Monsignors and Bishops. Back then she said, “Right now they are in the highest places, and they are working to bring about change in order that the Catholic Church will no longer be effective against Communism.”
 
She also said that these changes would be so drastic that “you will not recognize the Catholic Church.” Once these men had become bishops, their influence could be widely spread because “Bishops beget bishops” and these agents would use their influence to elevate and promote clergymen who are not necessarily dedicated Communists, but who were of a progressive and liberal mentality, and whose influence could be counted on to foster a new philosophy and theology within the ranks of the clergy.
 

hidden-hand.jpg

(left, future Pope Francis)
 
Once the clergy were infected they would pass this infection to the laity. The whole idea was to destroy, not the institution of the Church, but rather the Faith of the people …through the promotion of a pseudo-religion: something that resembled Catholicism but was not the real thing. Once the Faith was destroyed, then the dismantling of the institution would take place.’ She explained that there would be a guilt complex introduced into the Church . . . to label the “Church of the past” as being oppressive, authoritarian, full of prejudices, arrogant in claiming to be the sole possessor of truth, and responsible for the divisions of religious bodies throughout the centuries. This would be necessary in order to shame Church leaders into an “openness to the world” and to a more flexible attitude toward all other religions and philosophies. The Communists would then exploit this openness in order to undermine the Church.
 
What is to be made of Dr. Bella Dodd’s statements on the Communist infiltration of the Catholic Church beginning with Lenin and continuing into the Cold War era and perhaps beyond? Certainly, her claim that the Communists had drawn up plans to infiltrate the American clergy and other religious institutions was supported, at that time, by the testimony of other Communist defectors like Manning Johnson and Elizabeth Bentley. At first, her statement that “we,” presumably the Soviets, placed 1,100 men into the priesthood seems extravagant, but when one recalls that the CP/USA recruited some 35,000 teachers and professors and that the KGB included not only thousands of agents but also several million “cooperators,” then that number does not appear to be out of line.
 
Further, in 1969, Dr. Richard Day, the National Medical Director of Planned Parenthood and an Eastern Establishment figure repeated many of the same statements that Dodd had made. The date of the Day speech was March 20, 1969 and the occasion was a meeting of the Pittsburgh Pediatric Society. In “Family Planning: Infant Mortality, Gene Frequency, Abortion and Other Considerations,” Dr. Day described the workings of a New World System that he said was already in place and functioning.
 
Among other things, this New World System would replace traditional religion with a new belief system that excluded doctrine and morals, but it would appear to be the real thing, said Day. Of special interest to the Homosexual Collective is the prediction of Dr. Day that “homosexuals would be given permission to act out.” As if on cue, the Stonewall Inn riots, “a flashpoint” in the history of the Homosexual Collective that laid the foundation for the modern Homosexual Movement made national and world headlines in June 1969, just three months and one week after the Day speech. The Day lecture is analyzed by Dr. Larry Dunegan of Pittsburgh in a series of tapes and interviews with Randy Engel produced by the U.S. Coalition for Life, Export, Pa.
 
From the testimony of Dodd and other former members of the CP/USA and former Soviet intelligence agents working in the U.S., we know that both Lenin and Stalin invested the majority of their espionage talent, time and finances in the infiltration and subversion of trade unions, the labor movement, key government posts, “think-tanks” and foundations, industrial and military installations, local, state and national political parties and other secular American institutions. This does not mean, however, that the Soviets were any less successful in smaller-scale projects they undertook including the subversion of religious institutions including the Roman Catholic Church.
 
Unfortunately, while there appears to be no dearth of evidence on the successful penetration of Protestant seminaries, churches and sects in the U.S. by the Soviets from the 1930s onward, we have no comparable record of the Communist infiltration of the Catholic Church including Catholic seminaries, and churches and its hierarchical bureaucracy.
 
However, to suggest, as some skeptics have, that since Catholic seminaries and houses of religious formation are relatively  “closed societies,” they are immune from Communist subversion is to ignore the facts before us. After all, Soviet master spy Richard Sorge successfully penetrated the highest levels of Japanese society and government, which were believed to be impenetrable by Western intelligence.[iii]
 
Certainly, there were serious obstacles to infiltrating Catholic seminaries from the 1930s to the 1950s, that was not present in the case of their Protestant counterparts such as the requirement of celibacy and systematic vetting and close monitoring by superiors. The attrition rate among those Communist and Socialist radicals who volunteered or were pressured into these assignments must have been very high.
 
In his autobiography, the well-known historian Will Durant confesses that after graduation from high school in 1907 he got caught up in a flight of socialist euphoria and decided to infiltrate the priesthood in order to “work from within to lead the Catholic Church in the United States to cooperate with the socialist movement.”[iv] His experiment lasted for three years until a bad conscience got the better of him and he left Seton Hall in New Jersey for a career in journalism and a beautiful girl named Ariel, who became his wife.
 
Despite the hardships involved, however, some Soviet agents must have made it through to ordination. The key to their future success would lie in avoiding parish work and securing a desk job in a Chancery or with the National Catholic Welfare Conference. The latter would provide the agent with an opportunity for advancement up the bureaucratic ladder, with a minimum of intrusion of religion, to a position of power and influence in AmChurch. 
 
With the wholesale relaxation of standards of admission to Catholic seminaries and the precipitous decline in discipline and morals of seminarians and ordained clergy that marked the Vatican II Revolution, and the establishment of the National Conference of Catholic Bishops/U.S. Catholic Conference in Washington, D.C. in 1966 at the height of the Cold War, the doors were open to subversion on an even greater scale.[v] At the NCCB/USCC, a well-placed Soviet agent wearing a Roman collar would be capable of inflicting maximum damage to Catholic Church both in the U.S. and in Rome.
 
 —-
[i] Budenz estimated that the CP/USA had recruited as many as 35,000 professors and teachers, many dues-paying Party members. New York City universities and colleges such as Columbia University were major targets of Soviet propaganda and recruitment as were teachers’ unions.
 
[ii] In the 1950s, a young novice at St. Vincent’s Archabbey in Latrobe, Pa. by the name of Brother Joseph Natale said he was present at a public lecture in which Bella Dodd discussed the Soviet infiltration of the Catholic Church. Brother Joseph left St. Vincent’s before taking final vows and went on to establish Holy Family Monastery in Berlin, N.J., which offered the traditional Mass of the Roman rite. The monastery also contained a Catholic printing office. Forty years after Brother Joseph heard the Dodd speech, he recalled, “I listened to that woman for four hours and she had my hair standing on end. Everything she said has been fulfilled to the letter.” His recollections were first recorded in the fall 1989 issue of “Crying in the Wilderness,” a newsletter printed by the brothers at Holy Family Monastery.
 
 
[iii] See Gordon W. Prange, Target Tokyo – The Story of the Sorge Spy Ring (New York: McGraw-Hill, 1984).
 
[iv] Will and Ariel Durant, A Dual Autobiography (New York: Simon and Schuster, 1977), 35.
 
[v] It should be remembered that Catholic seminaries and the national bureaucracy of the NCWC and the NCCB/USCC were not the only Catholic institutions to be infiltrated. Herbert Romerstein and Eric Breindel in The Venona Secrets cite the Paulist Order as a target of Soviet subversion as well as the Holy Name Society, Knights of Columbus and various Catholic trade unions. For an expanded explanation of the Communist  “Outstretched Hand” policy see Francis J. Murphy, Communists and Catholics in France 1936-1939 The Politics of the Outstretched Hand (Gainesville, Fla.: University of Florida Press, Monographs in Social Science, no. 76, 1989).
 

 

 

The Catholic Church has always sought to control people. One method is to prevent people finding their own sexuality and their own spirituality at a higher level. People who are sexually repressed and spiritually ignorant are easier to control. Regarding infiltration, the book of Revelation gives a very profound insight into how the Catholic Church is infiltrated and destroyed from within by the Cabal.

 

 

 

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5 minutes ago, RobSS said:

You should really let other people decide about that. David Icke never blows his own trumpet like that and if he did, he wouldn't have half as many people listening to him. let people make up their own minds. Take it or leave it.

 

its got nothing to do with blowing anyones trumpet

 

GR was being critical of my contribution to the thread and i believe her criticism is unfounded. I think i have shared a lot of information in this thread that acts as doorways to key areas of research for anyone interested in this aspect of the conspiracy

 

anyone reading this who is objective will be able to see that is true

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3 minutes ago, peter said:

Could you imagination the media outrage if a straight pride march was organized on the streets of Sydney.

 

these sorts of mental exercises can be very informative about what the cabal wants and doesn't want

 

the cabal push what THEY deem to be POLITICALLY CORRECT

 

According to THEM you cannot be proud to be straight. You also are not allowed to be proud to be white

 

Increasingly you are not allowed to be proud to be british or american and certainly you are not allowed to be proud to be male

 

The most politically incorrect thing you can be according to the cabal is a straight, white, male who is proud of their western identity. If you really want to piss them off you could declare yourself christian too

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Just now, Macnamara said:

 

its got nothing to do with blowing anyones trumpet

 

GR was being critical of my contribution to the thread and i believe her criticism is unfounded. I think i have shared a lot of information in this thread that acts as doorways to key areas of research for anyone interested in this aspect of the conspiracy

 

anyone reading this who is objective will be able to see that is true

 

Just post and let people make up their own minds.

 

 

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Wow.   Quite a response to this controversial thread.

 

For newcombers I posted this earlier, which was recorded in the US Governemnt records.

 

 

THE GAY MANIFESTO


By Michael Swift, "Gay Revolutionary." Reprinted from The Congressional Record of the United States Congress.
First printed in Gay Community News, February 15-21 1987

 


“We shall sodomize your sons, emblems of your feeble masculinity, of your shallow dreams
and vulgar lies. We shall seduce them in your schools, in your dormitories, in your
gymnasiums, in your locker rooms, in your sports arenas, in your seminaries, in your youth
groups, in your movie theater bathrooms, in your army bunkhouses, in your truck stops, in
your all male clubs, in your houses of Congress, wherever men are with men together.
Your sons shall become our minions and do our bidding. They will be recast in our image.
They will come to crave and adore us"

 

https://media1-production.mightynetworks.com/asset/4819597/The_Gay_Manifesto.pdf

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3 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

these sorts of mental exercises can be very informative about what the cabal wants and doesn't want

 

the cabal push what THEY deem to be POLITICALLY CORRECT

 

According to THEM you cannot be proud to be straight. You also are not allowed to be proud to be white

 

Increasingly you are not allowed to be proud to be british or american and certainly you are not allowed to be proud to be male

 

The most politically incorrect thing you can be according to the cabal is a straight, white, male who is proud of their western identity. If you really want to piss them off you could declare yourself christian too

 

The worst thing you can do in their eyes is be yourself. They want you to be anything other than who you really are, and you don't need to be a straight, white, male who is proud of their western identity to be that.

 

 

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Ever heard of NAMBLA in the USA?

 

The North American Man/Boy Love Association (NAMBLA) is a pedophilia and pederasty advocacy organization in the United States. It works to abolish age-of-consent laws criminalizing adult sexual involvement with minors

 

In December 1977, police raided a house in the Boston suburb Revere. Twenty-four men were arrested and indicted on over 100 felony counts of the statutory rape of boys aged eight to fifteen.[8] Suffolk County district attorney Garrett H. Byrne found the men had used drugs and video games to lure the boys into a house, where they photographed them as they engaged in sexual activity. The men were members of a "sex ring"; Byrne said the arrest was "the tip of the iceberg".[9][10][5] Commenting on this issue, Boston magazine described NAMBLA as "the most despised group of men in America", which was "founded mostly by eccentric, boy-loving leftists".[5] The "Boston-Boise Committee", a gay rights organization, was formed in response to these events (which they termed the "Boston witch-hunt"), allegedly in order to promote solidarity amongst gay men, saying in an official leaflet that: "The closet is weak. There is strength in unity and openness."[11] NAMBLA's founding was inspired by this organization.[11] It was co-founded by historian David Thorstad.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Man/Boy_Love_Association#cite_note-Holmes-2

 

And guess what about David Thorstad .............

 

Thorstad was active in Trotskyist politics for some years. For more than six years, he was a member of the Upper West Side branch of the Socialist Workers Party (SWP) and a staff writer for its newspaper, The Militant. He left the SWP in December 1973, citing the organization's lack of enthusiasm for the gay liberation movement and failure to develop a "Marxist materialist analysis" of it. In 1976 he self-published a collection of internal party documents relating to its discussion of the gay liberation movement under the title Gay Liberation and Socialism: Documents from the Discussions on Gay Liberation Inside the Socialist Workers Party (1970-1973)

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Thorstad

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58 minutes ago, RobSS said:

 

I'm not sure where you're looking but I still see lots of real men around, but I'm not doubting "they" have the ability to corrupt and subvert. 

 

 

Real men wouldn't so willingly mask themselves up and allow their children to be vaccinated.

 

Smart tech, social media, fear of being cancelled, fear of being made jobless, fear fear fear fear...no wonder they've lost their balls.

 

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Just now, Anti Facts Sir said:

Real men wouldn't so willingly mask themselves up and allow their children to be vaccinated.

 

Smart tech, social media, fear of being cancelled, fear of being made jobless, fear fear fear fear...no wonder they've lost their balls.

 

 

I agree real men wouldn't mask up, etc. but there are men resisting and not complying.

 

 

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11 minutes ago, RobSS said:

Just post and let people make up their own minds.

 

what do you think i'm doing?

 

I post information, i debate points i disagree with and anyone reading can make up their own minds

 

stop trying to police me

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12 minutes ago, RobSS said:

The Catholic Church has always sought to control people. One method is to prevent people finding their own sexuality and their own spirituality at a higher level. People who are sexually repressed and spiritually ignorant are easier to control. Regarding infiltration, the book of Revelation gives a very profound insight into how the Catholic Church is infiltrated and destroyed from within by the Cabal.

 

but how much of what is being blamed on the catholic church is actually down to the catholic church if it has been infiltrated?

 

bare in mind the jesuits were created in the 1500's by kabbalist marrano jews led by ignatius loyolla

 

23 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

With the wholesale relaxation of standards of admission to Catholic seminaries and the precipitous decline in discipline and morals of seminarians and ordained clergy that marked the Vatican II Revolution, and the establishment of the National Conference of Catholic Bishops/U.S. Catholic Conference in Washington, D.C. in 1966 at the height of the Cold War, the doors were open to subversion on an even greater scale.[v] At the NCCB/USCC, a well-placed Soviet agent wearing a Roman collar would be capable of inflicting maximum damage to Catholic Church both in the U.S. and in Rome.

 

Freemasonry and the Subversion of the Catholic Church

By John Vennari
Editor, Catholic Family News
Transcript of a Speech given at the Fatima Peace Conference in Rome, October, 2001

This talk will be a brief expose of the 19th Century Masonic document “The Permanent Instruction of the Alta Vendita”, which mapped out a blueprint, a plan, which will help us to understand what is the “diabolic disorientation of the upper hierarchy” of which Sister Lucy spoke. The Permanent Instruction of the Alta Vendita, I believe, explains the root of that diabolic disorientation.

The Alta Vendita was the highest lodge of the Carbonari, an Italian secret society with links to Freemasonry and which, along with Freemasonry, was condemned by the Catholic Church.1 Father E. Cahill, SJ, in his book Freemasonry and the Anti-Christian Movement states that the Alta Vendita was “commonly supposed to have been at the time the governing center of European Freemasonry”2 The Carbonari were most active in Italy and France.

In his book Athanasius and the Church of Our Time, Bishop Rudolph Graber quoted a Freemason who declared that “the goal (of Freemasonry) is no longer the destruction of the Church, but to make use of it by infiltrating it.”3

In other words, since Freemasonry cannot completely obliterate Christ’s Church, it plans not only to eradicate the influence of Catholicism in society, but to use the Church’s structure as an instrument of “renewal,” “progress” and “enlightenment” - as means of furthering many of its own principles and goals.

An Outline

The strategy advanced in the Permanent Instruction of the Alta Vendita is astonishing in its audacity and cunning. From the start, the document tells of a process that will take decades to accomplish. Those who drew up the document knew that they would not see its fulfillment. They were inaugurating a work that would be carried on by succeeding generations of the initiated. The Permanent Instruction says, “In our ranks the soldier dies and the struggle goes on.”

The Instruction called for the dissemination of liberal ideas and axioms throughout society and within the institutions of the Catholic Church so that laity, seminarians, clerics and prelates would, over the years, gradually be imbued with progressive principles.

In time, this mind-set would be so pervasive that priests would be ordained, bishops would be consecrated, and cardinals would be nominated whose thinking was in step with the modern thought rooted in the “Principles of 1789” (pluralism, equality of religions, separation of Church and State, etc.)

Eventually, a Pope would be elected from these ranks who would lead the Church on the path of “enlightenment and renewal”. It must be stressed that it was not their aim to place a Freemason on the Chair of Peter. Their goal was to effect an environment that would eventually produce a Pope and a hierarchy won over to the ideas of liberal Catholicism, all the while believing themselves to be faithful Catholics.

These Catholic leaders, then, would no longer oppose the modern ideas of the revolution (as had been the consistent practice of the Popes from 1789 until 1958 who condemned these liberal principles) but would amalgamate them into the Church. The end result would be a Catholic clergy and laity marching under the banner of the enlightenment all the while thinking they are marching under the banner of the Apostolic keys.

Is it Possible?

For those who may believe this scheme to be too far- fetched, a goal too hopeless for the enemy to attain, it should be noted that both Pope Pius IX and Pope Leo XIII asked that the Permanent Instruction be published, no doubt, in order to prevent such a tragedy from taking place. These great Pontiffs knew that such a calamity was not impossible.

https://www.freemasonrywatch.org/alta_vendita.html

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9 minutes ago, RobSS said:

The worst thing you can do in their eyes is be yourself. They want you to be anything other than who you really are, and you don't need to be a straight, white, male who is proud of their western identity to be that.

 

you are missing the point

 

THEY have a particular agenda and in order to achieve that agenda they have to remove all the things that they see as a barrier to their rise to a position of unchallenged supremacism

 

regardless of what you identify as they are going after certain things

 

for example they want to destroy christianity which is why i half jokeingly say that if you want to piss them off you will say you are christian because they want everyone to stop being that so that their removal of christianity is complete

 

this kind of crap you are upto now is likely why some people suspect you

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Just now, Macnamara said:

 

what do you think i'm doing?

 

I post information, i debate points i disagree with and anyone reading can make up their own minds

 

 

If that's what you're doing why do you self-importantly say, "I'm the one posting information is this thread"?

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14 minutes ago, RobSS said:

 

The worst thing you can do in their eyes is be yourself. They want you to be anything other than who you really are, and you don't need to be a straight, white, male who is proud of their western identity to be that.

 

 

 

 

They don't want straight white men or women, nor their babies.

 

The social engineering is obvious and you know it.

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