The homosexual elite and the velvet mafia

[tommydrifter]

hello robss, hello everybody

 

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re: what's the problem?

 

my problem is the secrecy. i believe that people should know what is happening in their world. the secrecy and the lies harms everybody. when people are being one person in public and another person in private, this is confusing. how can you trust a person when they are duplicitous like this?

 

re: anal sex

 

my problem with anal sex is that i view this as an act of sado-masochism and i question whether this is not a confusion of pleasure and pain? is this an act of creation? or destruction (bringing a person down)? i am not saying a person should or shouldn't, just that this act is antithetical to my understanding of my own sexuality.

 

gays need to realise, that for straights like me, taking one in the arsehole is the worst thing that could befall a person -- we would rather die. so yes, this is both an obsession and a fear of mine.

 

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all right everybody, take care

[Truthspoon]

I think there is a much more sinister side to anal sex as well.

 

The Illuminati (basically Kabbalistic witchcraft) anally abuse young boys because the pain and trauma unlock the development of schizophrenia in later life, and schizophrenia for the Illuminati is for them, the means by which they communicate with spirits and can develop mind-reading powers and astral projection...

 

Obviously there is a down-side to this: schizophrenia. Schizophrenia, violent impulses and generalised neurotic mental illness are hugely over-represented in the homosexual community.

 

https://psychcentral.com/lib/higher-risk-of-mental-health-problems-for-homosexuals#1

 

 

His team looked at rates of mental disorder among 7,403 adults living in the UK, whose details were obtained from the Adult Psychiatric Morbidity Survey 2007. Rates of depression, anxiety, obsessive compulsive disorder, phobia, self-harm, suicidal thoughts, and alcohol and drug dependence were significantly higher in homosexual respondents.

 

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/1093510/

 

clinical studies indicate greater overt and conscious homosexual preoccupation in paranoid psychotics compared to nonparanoid psychotics, a finding not predicted by Freud. While psychological studies have tended to find more support for the Freudian position, several studies have failed to find supporting evidence and others are inconsistent in their results.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[RobSS]

10 hours ago, tommydrifter said:

hello robss, hello everybody

 

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re: what's the problem?

 

my problem is the secrecy. i believe that people should know what is happening in their world. the secrecy and the lies harms everybody. when people are being one person in public and another person in private, this is confusing. how can you trust a person when they are duplicitous like this?

 

Why should anyone report to you what they do in their private life?

 

Why do you want to know what people do in the privacy of their bedroom?

 

10 hours ago, tommydrifter said:

 

re: anal sex

 

my problem with anal sex is that i view this as an act of sado-masochism and i question whether this is not a confusion of pleasure and pain? is this an act of creation? or destruction (bringing a person down)? i am not saying a person should or shouldn't, just that this act is antithetical to my understanding of my own sexuality.

 

gays need to realise, that for straights like me, taking one in the arsehole is the worst thing that could befall a person -- we would rather die. so yes, this is both an obsession and a fear of mine.

 

 

If you believe anal sex is wrong and harms the person receiving it, you're certainly entitled to your opinion, but force your opinion on others, otherwise, where will that end? Will you start forcing people to be jabbed in the interest that it's for the good of their health? 

 

If the person receiving anal sex has consented, then the act is harming no one in society. No body is being harmed, apart from the person taking part in the act, and he would argue that he finds it extremely stimulating and very enjoyable, anyway.

 

Also, not all gay people are into anal sex. Many gay people haven't even experienced it and never want to, either. So it's completely wrong to make sweeping generalisations and associate all gay people with anal sex.

 

 

 

 

[RobSS]

5 hours ago, Truthspoon said:

 

I think there is a much more sinister side to anal sex as well.

 

 

I know you're still reading my posts, so I'll say that of course sex can be associated with sinister activity, but that doesn't mean to say that sex itself is sinister!

 

5 hours ago, Truthspoon said:

 

The Illuminati (basically Kabbalistic witchcraft) anally abuse young boys because the pain and trauma unlock the development of schizophrenia in later life, and schizophrenia for the Illuminati is for them, the means by which they communicate with spirits and can develop mind-reading powers and astral projection...

 

You conveniently forgot to mention that girls are also abused. It's not just boys, and the perpetrators aren't always men. Women are involved too.

 

5 hours ago, Truthspoon said:

 

Obviously there is a down-side to this: schizophrenia. Schizophrenia, violent impulses and generalised neurotic mental illness are hugely over-represented in the homosexual community.

 

 

Mental illness isn't more prevalent in the homosexual community because of homosexuality, it's because of the bigotry and hatred that's projected onto gay people by some people in society, so of course you'll find more mental illness where that occurs. Thankfully, this is much less of a problem now than it was a few decades ago because most people are more accepting.

 

Unfortunately, people like you are part of the problem. In an earlier post, in this thread, you called gay people "faggots". You're problem is that your homophobic.Instead of addressing your own issues, and you've got a few, you like to point the finger all the time.

 

 

Edited December 27, 2021 by RobSS

[pi3141]

I wish we had some Gay people on here.

 

To my knowledge, when Gay men have anal sex they experience orgasms. The fact is there is a nerve centre up the top of the passage and when touched causes orgasmic sensations. Now, God created us, so God put that nerve centre there, why do that? Did it put it there because it was meant to be used? God is perfect and everything it does is perfect so I'm certain there is no mistake and if Gay men derive pleasure from it who are we to say 'No' or judge them for it?

 

God gave you a heart, it did it for a reason, if you follow your heart you will mostly be a good person. But your heart can make someone do terrible things, stalking, controlling, obsession, and even murder. So should we not use our hearts?

 

Unfortunately, or fortunately, the gift we have been given by God can be used or abused in different ways, its up to us to control or temper our actions and emotions so we are civil to each other.

 

If two Gay men want to practice anal sex in a consensual manner and the physical framework has been put in place for them to enjoy the act - get orgasm from it, then it seems to me they are enjoying their gift and utilising their bodies in the way it was designed for them and I see nothing wrong with it. I certainly won't judge.

 

As far as secrecy is concerned, I don't walk down the road shouting out how I got laid last night with my wife so why the hell should anyone walk around saying 'oh yes I has anal sex last night' its not a conversation starter in polite society.

 

Your body and mind are the most amazing instruments you'll ever own. Its fine to try them out and use them as you choose, as long as you don't intentionally harm anyone else doing it. Its your gift, find out what it can do - mountaineering, parachuting, improving memory, learning, , developing fitness and building muscle, learning gymnastics, experiencing, loving, sex, anything, thats life. Its why we're here and some people are different.

 

Lets not judge.

[BlueSky]

14 minutes ago, pi3141 said:

God gave you a heart, it did it for a reason, if you follow your heart you will mostly be a good person. But your heart can make someone do terrible things, stalking, controlling, obsession, and even murder. So should we not use our hearts?

That's the ego isn't it. 

[RobSS]

14 hours ago, tommydrifter said:

my problem is the secrecy. i believe that people should know what is happening in their world.

 

 

This is an unusual comment worth commenting on. Why do you have a problem with sex in private? The usual criticism from people that don't like gays is that they are too open about it. They don't want to know what goes on behind closed doors, as long as no one's getting hurt.

 

Do you really want to know when each and every gay person is having anal sex? Most people would rather not know!

 

[RobSS]

 

If you're angry or up-tight, then anal sex will not be pleasurable. Women like anal sex too. Here's how to do anal sex properly and make it pleasurable:

 

 

Edited December 27, 2021 by RobSS

[pi3141]

4 minutes ago, RobSS said:

Women like anal sex too. 

 

Yes there is that too - its not just men, women too, finding out what they can do with their bodies. Like I said, its the greatest instrument you'll ever own, its right to find out what it can do. Different stokes, different folks. (is that what they say)

[pi3141]

17 minutes ago, BlueSky said:

That's the ego isn't it. 

 

Well, ok, yes, probably.

 

I just meant that your emotions can you lead you to do bad things, 'in the heat of the moment' 'crimes of passion' these are emotionally based but tempered/changed by ego I suppose.

 

Getting a bit Freudian.

 

[RobSS]

4 minutes ago, pi3141 said:

 

Yes there is that too - its not just men, women too, finding out what they can do with their bodies. Like I said, its the greatest instrument you'll ever own, its right to find out what it can do. Different stokes, different folks. (is that what they say)

 

Some men start off exploring with fingers or small toys first, to see if they like it, but it can lead to other things like men taking fists, even arms, but it must be stressed, not all gay men like anal sex. Then there's the question of bisexuality!

 

Edited December 27, 2021 by RobSS

[RobSS]

Julian Clary's famous 1993 fisting comment, on national primetime TV, during the British Comedy Awards. It was one of the funniest moments of the 1990's!

 

Norman Lamont was the UK's Chancellor of the Exchequer from 1990 until 1993.

 

 

Edited December 27, 2021 by RobSS

[pi3141]

5 minutes ago, RobSS said:

Then there's the question of bisexuality!

 

Apparently, if I remember correctly, according to the Psychologists, Bisexuality is the most natural state of a mind. I think its because it is not conflicted and well balanced. But this is going into mainstream science and we don't always do that here!

[RobSS]

Just now, pi3141 said:

 

Apparently, if I remember correctly, according to the Psychologists, Bisexuality is the most natural state of a mind. I think its because it is not conflicted and well balanced. But this is going into mainstream science and we don't always do that here!

 

That's interesting. My background is bisexual.

 

[pi3141]

Its all just part of the spectrum of human experience. Its logical, we'll have Straight Women, Straight Men at each end, Gay men and Women in the Middle, Bisexual Men and Women halfway along and all the other flavours somewhere in between, its natural that people will be born with different characteristics. 

 

Its all Gods plan.

[RobSS]

Just now, pi3141 said:

Its all just part of the spectrum of human experience. Its logical, we'll have Straight Women, Straight Men at each end, Gay men and Women in the Middle, Bisexual Men and Women halfway along and all the other flavours somewhere in between, its natural that people will be born with different characteristics. 

 

Its all Gods plan.

 

Yes, sex is fundamental to everything human nature.

 

All of Wagner's music dramas, for example, are full of sex, which is one reason I find them so interesting.

 

 

[pi3141]

3 minutes ago, RobSS said:

 

Yes, sex is fundamental to everything human nature.

 

 

It is yes. 

 

And of course some people won't like it, some will love it, some will think its ok but over rated. People are different, but we're all on the spectrum of human experience. We're all part of Gods plan.

[RobSS]

1 minute ago, pi3141 said:

 

It is yes. 

 

And of course some people won't like it, some will love it, some will think its ok but over rated. People are different, but we're all on the spectrum of human experience. We're all part of Gods plan.

 

It should also be said that sexual repression is just as harmful as sexual over indulgence, but that requires having the courage to experiment and explore to reach a balanced and healthy perspective. It's better to do something than nothing at all. If you do something, at least you can start to work things out.

 

 

[tommydrifter]

hello robss, hello everybody

 

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re: the secrecy and lies harms children

 

both of my parents are closet homosexuals and my childhood was a traumatic experience for this and other reasons. i have trouble relating to people because of this background. so in my own experience,  growing up among so many lies, secrets, manipulations and deceptions, i can confirm that these toxic environments cause untold suffering and perpetuate the circle-of-abuse.

 

the issue is the secrecy and the lies and the betrayal of trust; not the ways in which people choose to express their sexuality. i am only interested in what people do privately when it causes me, and others like me, to suffer.

 

re: more on anal penetration

 

in the context of my understanding of my own sexuality, anal penetration is wrong but i am not generalising that. when i think about anal penetration, in the context of my own sexuality, this is humiliating and painful: a masochistic act.

 

it is for each person to work out for themselves who and what they are: i am not saying everybody should think and feel like i do. my sincere wish is for each and every person to come out of hiding and be a fearless expression of their authentic true-self.

 

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have a great day everybody

[RobSS]

16 minutes ago, tommydrifter said:

hello robss, hello everybody

 

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re: the secrecy and lies harms children

 

both of my parents are closet homosexuals and my childhood was a traumatic experience for this and other reasons. i have trouble relating to people because of this background. so in my own experience,  growing up among so many lies, secrets, manipulations and deceptions, i can confirm that these toxic environments cause untold suffering and perpetuate the circle-of-abuse.

 

 

Hello,

 

Very sorry to hear about your experience with your parents.

 

I think a lot of gay people are working very hard on being open about their sexuality. I agree, it's very unhealthy to lead a double life. 20 years or so ago, it was much more difficult. It's easier these days, but there's still a lot that needs to be worked on, for a happier society.

 

16 minutes ago, tommydrifter said:

 

it is for each person to work out for themselves who and what they are: i am not saying everybody should think and feel like i do. my sincere wish is for each and every person to come out of hiding and be a fearless expression of their authentic true-self.

 

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have a great day everybody

 

Have a great day, to you too!

 

 

[pi3141]

1 hour ago, tommydrifter said:

 

in the context of my understanding of my own sexuality, anal penetration is wrong but i am not generalising that. when i think about anal penetration, in the context of my own sexuality, this is humiliating and painful: a masochistic act.

 

Some hetrosexuals think the same about normal sex. The woman physically submits to being dominated by the man, then a brutal physical act takes place that can start out painful and end up with the woman not orgasaming and the whole thing seems like a brutal act designed to bring pleasure to one party - thats sado machosim to.

 

1 hour ago, tommydrifter said:

both of my parents are closet homosexuals and my childhood was a traumatic experience for this and other reasons. i have trouble relating to people because of this background. so in my own experience,  growing up among so many lies, secrets, manipulations and deceptions, i can confirm that these toxic environments cause untold suffering and perpetuate the circle-of-abuse.

 

I'm sorry you have had a hard time but I think you should be understanding of your parents position - they were different and maybe they were'nt strong enough to face up to it.

 

But instead they found each other and made a decision to start a family, perpetuating their genes, which is why we're here, and try to live a 'normal' life. Its a decision they made, I'm sure they never meant to hurt you through it. Maybe it was wrong, I don't think it neccessary was if it allowed them to function in the society they were brought up in. They would have tried to hide it from you to give you a normal start in life. If they gave you a loving, caring, stable environment then they did well.

 

I wouldn't judge them harshly if I was you.

[Guest m754]

12 hours ago, pi3141 said:

nerve centre up the top of the passage and when touched causes orgasmic sensations. Now, God created us, so God put that nerve centre there, why do that?

 

Blissfully single, straight, woman here (any more labels needed?)

 

Just chiming in because this thread is becoming a bit sad now. We are fighting over things we have no knowledge of...

 

To put it simply---It would seem that we are screenshot replicas of the original energy being experiment.

 

We are smaller and weaker 'images' of the original 'truth'.

 

Merely from the perspective of this strange discussion folks are having on here---our bodies are like Children's Storybooks with A, B, C labelled clearly to tell us infantile beings what each thing does symbolically.

 

The 9 or so energy points in the original energy being experiment related to the original experiment of playing with creation. Homam/ Yajna/ Sacrifice (similar to lighting & dousing the fire after camping in the woods), was done through these channels. Through the 'upper' channels one is liberated from the game instantly. 'Lower' channels led to repeated cycles..long story..

 

the nerve centres roughly coordinate to that but for satanists or any group to say that actual penetration in current bodies will lead to something is like telling a child to leave a tooth for the tooth fairy. they are just messing with these esoteric references, satan etc to control people and make this entire, lowly fake existence we are leading a bit more dramatic. 

 

These are mere token symbolic bodies we have now. Mere pictorial representations that serve as pleasure nodes ...so far we have fallen...

 

The Instrument or Yantra of body (One) was created for the original ritual of creation. Actual creation with another entity (eg. consummation between man and woman) needed to be resorted to in order to wipe out the residual 'desires' in that energy point.. that has since become a denser frozen body frame because the desires had solidified over ages, instead of being liberated.

 

Towards the end of the ritual, the last node roughly corresponds to what is being discussed here..

I must say however that I am not an expert, just offered food for thought to make the cringey discussion a bit 'sane' and 'logical'...not judging anyone.

 

 

[pi3141]

12 hours ago, m754 said:

Just chiming in because this thread is becoming a bit sad now. We are fighting over things we have no knowledge of...

 

Hi, thanks for the input.

 

Yes I admit I have no 'direct knowledge' just what I have gleaned over the years, I may be wrong but its obvious Gay men have sex for a reason - they must derive pleasure from it or they wouldn't do it. I believe they achieve and orgasm.

 

12 hours ago, m754 said:

These are mere token symbolic bodies we have now. Mere pictorial representations that serve as pleasure nodes ...so far we have fallen...

 

Sounds a bit Luciferian - 'Oh Lucifer, how art thou fallen' 

 

Do you think we are all 'fallen' sinful creatures waiting to be reborn? Or enlightened or something? That sounds a bit wrong to me, a bit Luciferian, inverted it may be, but still, based on Luciferian doctrine.

 

We are not fallen, we are not born in original sin, there is no Hell and Lucifer is a figment of the Roman Churches imagination.

 

At least that's what I think.

[RobSS]

16 minutes ago, pi3141 said:

 

We are not fallen, we are not born in original sin, there is no Hell and Lucifer is a figment of the Roman Churches imagination.

 

 

I don't think the Bible teaches that hell is a place you can find in the A to Z or nowadays, Google maps. Hell is a state of mind.

 

"Original sin" is a term, but I regard that as the over development of the intellect, an hereditary issue.

 

Regarding "fallen", we are fallen in the sense that humanity has forgotten the state of innocence from which humanity first developed. We have an inkling of that innocent state as children, but age can erase a lot of childlikeness, and so a state of "fallen-ness" ensues. It's possible to regain the fallen state by unburying the cardinal virtues that lie within the human being (prudence, justice, fortitude, temperance), as opposed to the deadly sins that corrupt the soul. In Christianity, of course, there are four additional virtues that contribute to purifying a fallen state and ennobling a person, namely faith, hope and charity.

 

Edited December 28, 2021 by RobSS

[pi3141]

18 minutes ago, RobSS said:

 

I don't think the Bible teaches that hell is a place you can find in the A to Z or nowadays, Google maps. Hell is a state of mind.

 

"Original sin" is a term, but I regard that as the over development of the intellect, an hereditary issue.

 

Regarding "fallen", we are fallen in the sense that humanity has forgotten the state of innocence from which humanity first developed. We have an inkling of that innocent state as children, but age can erase a lot of childlikeness, and so a state of "fallen-ness" ensues. It's possible to regain the fallen state by unburying the cardinal virtues that lie within the human being (prudence, justice, fortitude, temperance), as opposed to the deadly sins that corrupt the soul. In Christianity, of course, there are four additional virtues that contribute to purifying a fallen state and ennobling a person, namely faith, hope and charity.

 

 

Well Christians mostly believe that Hell is a literal place with an all powerful ruler called Satan, able to challenge God and trap his creations and subject them to eternal torment. But yes, I think in Judaism its more a state of mind.

 

Regarding Fallen, I do not have the same interpretation to you of Genesis creation account.

 

First of all I believe it is taken from earlier Pagan sources, secondly I think it corresponds to our animal state before we evolved to fully human consciousness. I do not go in for all this, we were innocent and now we are guilty guilt trip that the Church lays down. Its a description of ourselves as animals or in the animal state, leading a simple life, foraging and sleeping wherever, naked etc and then our evolving into humans with human consciousness and awareness, and it alludes to the greatness we can achieve, God like intelligence and immortality. But Genesis is not something we need pay to much attention to, nor is Revelations. imo Its window dressing, it can be interpreted in many ways, symbolically using sacred geometry for instance and yes it encodes higher knowledge, so knock yourself out looking for that, I focus on the New Testament and the teachings of the one we call Jesus Christ. I'm buying up second hand copies of Anchor Bible series version and reading them, although I haven't been doing much of that lately and the next book in the series I am going to buy is Revelations merely so I can comment on it on threads like these!