The homosexual elite and the velvet mafia

[RobSS]

Just now, Macnamara said:

 

as long as its consenting adults i couldn't give a damn

 

Neither do I.

 

[Macnamara]

Just now, RobSS said:

Neither do I.

 

I'm pretty liberal about personal choice but very conservative about social engineering

[RobSS]

2 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

I'm pretty liberal about personal choice but very conservative about social engineering

 

Same here... but social engineering varies at different points in history. At the moment, things are swinging towards chaos and do as you want be the whole law culture. We're heading towards the end of this reptilian system of things, though. The story has already been written. We're just making film versions of it.

 

[Macnamara]

10 minutes ago, RobSS said:

Same here... but social engineering varies at different points in history. At the moment, things are swinging towards chaos and do as you want be the whole law culture. We're heading towards the end of this reptilian system of things, though. The story has already been written. We're just making film versions of it.

 

i have been talking to all kinds of people online for years and what i'm seeing is that people have polarised into two camps,broadly speaking

 

For want of a better term lets call one of those camps 'liberals'. Those people are supported by big tech, the big corporations, the media and by much of the news media

 

Those liberals seem to have completely discarded objective morality. In their eyes it is ok to trample on freedom of speech just as long as the people being silenced are the people they disagree with. That camp are ok with people being punched in the face, doxed or harassed and no-platformed just as long as it is the people they disagree with and ultimately i have no doubts that camp will also say it is ok for the government to force jab people too because they believe that it is ok to deprive people of their freedom and even their right to life just as long as it is the people they disagree with

 

As a result they have become the footsoldiers of the cabal as they are both moving in the same direction which is to say the sabotage of society with intent to cause harm to those they resent

 

Its no mystery to me how communism managed to murder tens of millions of people across the world

Edited December 6, 2021 by Macnamara

[RobSS]

1 minute ago, Macnamara said:

 

i have been talking to all kinds of people online for years and what i'm seeing is that people have polarised into two camps,broadly speaking

 

For want of a better term lets call one of those camps 'liberals'. Those people are supported by big tech, the big corporations, the media and by much of the news media

 

Those liberals seem to have completely discarded objective morality. In their eyes it is ok to trample on freedom of speech just as long as the people being silenced are the people they disagree with. That camp are ok with people being punched in the face, doxed or harassed and no-platformed just as long as it is the people they disagree with and ultimately i have no doubts that camp will also say it is ok for the government to force jab people too because they believe that it is ok to deprive people from their freedom and even their right to life just as long as it is the people they disagree with

 

As a result they have become the footsoldiers of the cabal as they are both moving in the same direction which is to say the sabotage of society with intent to cause harm to those they resent

 

IMO, the picture is more complex than that. People like David Icke and Rudolf Steiner have claimed that there are mainly two types of people in the world. Those that have a soul and those that don't, and those that don't have a soul can be probably be found across the political spectrum, from the far right, to the far left. That's why playing the left vs right game only results in donating energy to the cabal.

 

[Macnamara]

4 minutes ago, RobSS said:

IMO, the picture is more complex than that. People like David Icke and Rudolf Steiner have claimed that there are mainly two types of people in the world. Those that have a soul and those that don't, and those that don't have a soul can be probably be found across the political spectrum, from the far right, to the far left. That's why playing the left vs right game only results in donating energy to the cabal.

 

i'm not going to go as far as to say that the 'liberal' camp don't have souls lol

 

They are just the product of things that create mental illness

 

I don't think 'left' and 'right' are the correct labels to use. This is more an issue of centralised power v's decentralised power or individual freedom v's collectivism

 

The 'liberal' camp (for want of a better term) believe it is ok for the state to trample all over people (just as long as it is the people they don't like)

Edited December 6, 2021 by Macnamara

[RobSS]

1 minute ago, Macnamara said:

 

i'm not going to go as far as to say that the 'liberal' camp don't have souls lol

 

They are just the product of things that create mental illness

 

There's mental illness on both sides, to be fair. The finger of one side at the other only gives energies to those in the unseen world.

 

[Macnamara]

1 minute ago, RobSS said:

There's mental illness on both sides, to be fair. The finger of one side at the other only gives energies to those in the unseen world.

 

I'm not talking about left v's right

 

the people i'm calling 'liberals' are the ones arguing for all the things that the cabal are pushing down into society from above even though it will lead to a totalitarian society devoid of freedom or soul

[RobSS]

2 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

I'm not talking about left v's right

 

the people i'm calling 'liberals' are the ones arguing for all the things that the cabal are pushing down into society from above even though it will lead to a totalitarian society devoid of freedom or soul

 

We all know Liberalism is just a facade. The word "liberal" sounds good because most people want to be seen as being generous, non-judgemental and inclusive, so it's the ideal Trojan horse to use to get the bulk of the agenda through, but the agenda is also being channelled through conservative, labour, democratic and republican parties. The agenda is also channelled through the extreme left and right, which are both sides of he same coin. In reality, there are very few places to go for refuge away from it all, except within, until the whole thing blows over, which it will at some point, which is why I've mentioned that the story has already been written and we make films of it all.

 

[Macnamara]

5 minutes ago, RobSS said:

In reality, there are very few places to go for refuge away from it all, except within, until the whole thing blows over

 

they want their nanotech within you so that they will control that space too

 

not even the commies or nazis injected everyone on the planet. This is next level evil

[JJ73]

20 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

not even the commies or nazis injected everyone on the planet. This is next level evil

Yes it is. I can't fathom how it is going to be overcome either. The powers that be control all mainstream media, plus (I believe) a lot of what are termed alternative sources. They own the politicians, the governments, the police and no doubt the other forces too. I don't see how the spell is going to be broken this time around. Besides, it's not just happening in one place. This is happening everywhere and to all things. They want children vaxxed. Next it could be pets. It really is next level evil.

[RobSS]

33 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

they want their nanotech within you so that they will control that space too

 

not even the commies or nazis injected everyone on the planet. This is next level evil

 

That's why I know, and why you probably know, we're arriving at the end-game. T'spoon doesn't believe  there's going to be a climax. He thinks things will carry on and on, but I don't see how that can be the case because like you say, once they get us over a certain threshold, the game is up and there's no turning back and humanity is finished. I don't believe humanity will end in defeat, but I don't believe things will just carry on, as they have been for centuries. People who believe that are not facing up to the reality that the agenda is escalating so fast, there's absolutely no way this can carry on indefinitely.

 

I have an idea how to navigate a path through, but I can't do it on my own. I also don't know how to say what I want to say openly. I've been thinking about it for decades privately, and never felt the necessity to discuss it openly because it's only in recent times that times have become critical.

 

Over the past year that's changed and I've been looking for ways to express what I want to express but at every turn a barrier comes down because it involves looking at the problems of evil in a different way to how most people view the problem. One of the barriers is the reality that we've collectively built the prison we're all in, and people don't want to take the risk of questioning that reality. Most people don't want to take responsibility for the part they're playing in maintaining the false paradigm.

 

In a recent post, for example, T'spoon said, "It's not much use revealing the truth if everyone is dead or enslaved though is it?"

 

But the only thing that can save us is the truth. The problem, I feel, is that people are either knowingly, or unwittingly, fighting false paradigms, labels and appearances in order to stop truth being shared. T'spoon knows because I've told him a lot over the 14 years or so, on and off, we've known each other, but he doesn't want to know. He therefore has nothing positive to say because he believes that everyone, including you and I, are dead. That's why he speaks down to people and he only cosies up to people that are being distracted from the truth. It gives him comfort and a false refuge.

 

I don't think trying to find a gay mafia is the solution. It's a distraction, a way of doodling the time away, but the clock's ticking and there aren't many tocks left.

 

Edited December 6, 2021 by RobSS
Just added a few commas here and there

[JJ73]

1 minute ago, RobSS said:

I have an idea how to navigate a path through, but I can't do it on my own.

 

I would like to hear it. I'm open to whatever that may look like.

[JJ73]

On 10/9/2021 at 4:47 PM, EnigmaticWorld said:

I'm a straight, blond haired, blue eyed, Christian, male, with English and German heritage. I won't have a safe space in the NWO.

It's interesting the way it all works out because 80 years ago, those attributes would have been viewed as ideal.

Edited December 6, 2021 by JJ73

[Macnamara]

2 minutes ago, RobSS said:

I have an idea how to navigate a path through, but I can't do it on my own. I also don't know how to say what I want to say openly. I've been thinking about it for decades privately, and never felt the necessity to discuss it openly because it's only in recent times that times have become critical.

 

have you discussed this anywhere on the forum yet?

 

2 minutes ago, RobSS said:

Over the past year that's changed and I've been looking for ways to express what I want to express but at every turn a barrier comes down because it involves looking at the problems of evil in a different way to how most people view the problem. One of the barriers is the reality that we've collectively built the prison we're all in, and people don't want to take the risk of questioning that reality. Most people don't want to take responsibility for the part their playing in maintaining the false paradigm.

 

if christianity was the over-arching story that bound europe together over centuries until the enlightenment led to a more materialist conception of history then we see a deep yearning in people for something that has been lost when they turned their back on religion

 

In order to redeem our own times we need a new story that inspires and encourages the best from people

 

2 minutes ago, RobSS said:

I don't think trying to find a gay mafia is the solution. It's a distraction, a way of doodling the time away, but the clock's ticking and there aren't many tocks left.

 

turning over the gay mafia rock isn't going to provide a complete enough picture of the issue at hand, merely an aspect of what's going on. However it might help some people to see how the demonisation of straight males and of white people in general is all part of a push by the 'liberal', globalist elites to create a new society of moral reletavism that ultimately leads people away from creation and into the elites virtual metauniverse

 

If people can see how these things connect up into a cohesive agenda and then see where that agenda leads then they may be able to look into that abyss and pull back in horror which may just inspire them to make the changes in their life that they need to make in order to help steer the ship in a different direction

[RobSS]

2 minutes ago, JJ73 said:

 

I would like to hear it. I'm open to whatever that may look like.

 

This is actually the first time I've been so blunt on the forum regarding this, so that's a start. Christ once said he had many things say, but he told his disciples they would not be able to bear it. He said that if he didn't go away (death through the crucifixion), he would not be able to send the helper, but when he does go away, and when the helper he sends arrives, then that one will show the way through what's now unfolding.

 

So as you can imagine, there's a lot at stake here and what being contemplated is fire. When i first chose my avatar, I chose it after I came across it by accident. I had no idea what it really means, I just liked the look of it. Of course, I knew that it may have significance, but I learned more about it's different meanings since I started using it. I didn't know, for example that it's a symbol that midwives use to describe the birthing process. That's just one aspect, but to go with this analogy/symbolism for a bit, birthing isn't an easy procedure and can involve a degree of pain. Obviously, there are going to be people who are going to be very much against this to the point of causing a lot of trouble. That's why I haven't found a way of being really open.

 

[JJ73]

1 minute ago, RobSS said:

Obviously, there are going to be people who are going to be very much against this to the point of causing a lot of trouble.

I'm not a trouble-maker. If you have discovered a way through this or out of this, I will listen without judgement. In the last 18 months, I have lost the respect of practically everyone I have ever known and live as a recluse because of it. Those who do still speak to me, 'joke' about having me held down to get the requisite amount of jabs inside me.  I have nothing left to lose, in hearing you out.

[RobSS]

4 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

have you discussed this anywhere on the forum yet?

 

 

if christianity was the over-arching story that bound europe together over centuries until the enlightenment led to a more materialist conception of history then we see a deep yearning in people for something that has been lost when they turned their back on religion

 

In order to redeem our own times we need a new story that inspires and encourages the best from people

 

 

turning over the gay mafia rock isn't going to provide a complete enough picture of the issue at hand, merely an aspect of what's going on. However it might help some people to see how the demonisation of straight males and of white people in general is all part of a push by the 'liberal', globalist elites to create a new society of moral reletavism that ultimately leads people away from creation and into the elites virtual metauniverse

 

If people can see how these things connect up into a cohesive agenda and then see where that agenda leads then they may be able to look into that abyss and pull back in horror which may just inspire them to make the changes in their life that they need to make in order to help steer the ship in a different direction

 

I agree with a lot of what you're saying, and I answered your question, 'have I mentioned this before?', in a post just before this one.

 

You used the imagery of looking under a rock. This is a similar idea to looking behind the veil, or curtain, but the essence of these metaphors is a "revealing", which really means an apocalypse. Whenever I use that word, T'spoon hates it because he doesn't believe in the idea of an apocalypse, and vehemently argues against it because he believes "everyone is dead" and "the truth should be kept buried".

 

I can understand why some people resist revelations... it's because everything in this world is a lie, so obviously if everything is revealed, everything would stop, including Time itself, so of course people are in fear of that happening. Ironically, the lie is also what can save us. Only the weapon that caused the wound, can heal the wound.

 

I'm all for everything to be revealed. David Icke says, "Let the truth be told, though the heavens fall". I agree, but there must be a way through so things don't fall on our head, and kill everyone. If everyone's killed, then humanity is finished, so there must be something to keep time going that will bring an end to the evil agenda.

 

 

 

[RobSS]

1 hour ago, JJ73 said:

I'm not a trouble-maker. If you have discovered a way through this or out of this, I will listen without judgement. In the last 18 months, I have lost the respect of practically everyone I have ever known and live as a recluse because of it. Those who do still speak to me, 'joke' about having me held down to get the requisite amount of jabs inside me.  I have nothing left to lose, in hearing you out.

 

I'm beginning to feel the same way. It's a kind of sink or swim situation.

 

I have mentioned before on the forum that I'm a singer. I use singing as a gauge of how I'm doing swimming on the surface of the ocean of consciousness that's out there. I'm aware of  the corruption in the commercial entertainment world. I'm also aware that it's only a matter of time before I really come under attack and I have to ensure that my technique and vision is going to be strong enough to withstand the brewing storm. This is a clue that the path involves music and some of the greatest philosophical minds that have applied their minds to music over the last 200 years. 

 

Are you familiar with the English philosopher Roger Scruton? He died not long ago, but around 8 years ago or so, he gave an interview that skirts around some of the things that I've been thinking about for many decades. Not only have I been thinking about these things, but I've embed these things in the fabric of my being that makes me want to sing. There's already a Roger Scruton thread in this General section. I'll post the video there now in that thread, and the thread will become evident.

 

it's not appropriate to continue this topic here, as it's already gone off topic, but all these things are related, so I hope Golden Retriever can forgive the aberration, in the interests of seeking understanding.

 

Edit:

 

Just posted the video here:

 

 

Edited December 6, 2021 by RobSS
Corrected a spelling error

[JJ73]

11 minutes ago, RobSS said:

 

I'm beginning to feel the same way. It's a kind of sink or swim situation.

 

I have mentioned before on the forum that I'm a singer. I use singing as a gauge of how I'm doing swimming on the surface of the ocean of consciousness that's out there. I'm aware of  the corruption in the commercial entertainment world. I'm also aware that it's only a matter of time before I really come under attack and I have to ensure that my technique and vision is going to be strong enough to withstand the brewing storm. This is a clue that the path involves music and some of the greatest philosophical minds that have applied their minds to music over the last 200 years. 

 

Are you familiar with the English philosopher Roger Scruton? He died not long ago, but before he passed away, he gave an interview that skirts around some of the things that I've been thinking about for many decades. Not only have I been thinking about these things, but I've embed these things in the fabric of my being that makes me want to sing. There's already a Roger Scruton thread in this General section. I'll post the video there now in that thread, and the thread will become evident.

 

it's not appropriate to continue this topic here, as it's already gone off topic, but all these things are related, so I hope Golden Retriever can forgive the aberration, in the interests of seeking understanding.

 

Edit:

 

Just posted the video here:

 

 

Rather bizarrely, I was reading Roger Scruton's Wikipedia entry just a couple of days ago. His name had been linked in something I was reading elsewhere on Wiki so this bodes well. On my way to read what you have posted in the other section.

[Macnamara]

On 12/6/2021 at 4:36 PM, Macnamara said:

that depends on what the sabbatean higher ups like the rothschilds and rockefellers want; if they want to genocide white european people then they would want to do certain things like:

 

-destroy their fertility through exposing them to endocrine disrupting chemicals

-foment wars and fund both sides to get europeans to kill each other

-put fluoride in the drinking water to destroy health and lower IQ

-create artificial banking crises so that they can destroy the economic health of people

-inject them all with health destroying mRNA injections

-encourage people to shag ANYTHING except heterosexual relations which enable the birthing of more white people

-the destruction of white peoples history and culture and religion

-flood outsiders into white countries to destroy social cohesion

-encourage non white people to HATE white people to create more discord

-flood the cities and homes of white people with microwaves to destroy their health

-encourage white people to hate themselves and feel guilty so that they never stick up for themselves

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[tommydrifter]

hello everybody

 

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i just wanted to chip in that i have come to realise that a lot of people are practicing homosexuals. i had no idea until recently just how many people are into this, including swinging and other sexual activities. my issue is not that people put things into their arseholes or the girls getting together for a tribadism session -- but the secrecy. sometimes i feel like i don't know where people stand because they are so secretive. whenever i meet a person these days, i am thinking "what is this person about?" -- don't be fooled by the missus or the wife-and-kids cover-story. and it's not just the elite.

 

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don't drop the soap everybody!

[RobSS]

[tommydrifter]

hello again everybody

 

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re: more on homoeroticism

 

maybe there is a perception that homosexual culture is concentrated in wealthy suburbs and private schools (public schools in england). i went to a private school for four years, and although i didn't know it at the time, i can confirm that it is true: the guys get together and bum. the number of people doing this sort of thing is way higher than most people realise.

 

but people should know that the same thing is true in working-class suburbs and working-class professions. and the same thing is happening in the public schools as is happening in the private schools: groups of guys getting together to bum each other. i went to a public school for two years and i know this is true because i attended some of these events in high school. my best friend at the time wanted to do me in my arsehole (i had no idea he was homosexual) and it wasn't until years later that i realised that these "beach parties" were homosexual get-togethers.

 

seriously everybody, watch your back, and don't drop the soap!

 

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have a great day everybody

 

[RobSS]

1 minute ago, tommydrifter said:

hello again everybody

 

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re: more on homoeroticism

 

maybe there is a perception that homosexual culture is concentrated in wealthy suburbs and private schools (public schools in england). i went to a private school for four years, and although i didn't know it at the time, i can confirm that it is true: the guys get together and bum. the number of people doing this sort of thing is way higher than most people realise.

 

but people should know that the same thing is true in working-class suburbs and working-class professions. and the same thing is happening in the public schools as is happening in the private schools: groups of guys getting together to bum each other. i went to a public school for two years and i know this is true because i attended some of these events in high school. my best friend at the time wanted to do me in my arsehole (i had no idea he was homosexual) and it wasn't until years later that i realised that these "beach parties" were homosexual get-togethers.

 

seriously everybody, watch your back, and don't drop the soap!

 

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have a great day everybody

 

 

All those years that you were unaware of it  - anal sex never harmed you - and even now you've become aware of it, you still haven't said it's harmed you, so what's the problem? Why are you so obsessed with anal sex?