The homosexual elite and the velvet mafia

[Golden Retriever]

1 minute ago, Macnamara said:

 

well lets just say that all the skullduggery relating to hacks and forum disappearances can create a certain wariness

 

 

Continuing on the theme of the occult the influential occultist aleister crowley told a story about how he became the head of the OTO. According to him he published some information about eastern tantric sex magic (i think in his equinox series) after which he received a visit from a german man who claimed that crowley had just revealed the central secret of their magical order and therefore he now needed to take the reins and become the head of the order

 

I personally don't believe a word that crowley says but anyway once he was in charge of the order he changed the initiatory process to place male on male anal sex as the highest degree of their order

 

Crowley also played about with the tree of life in his system to place a focus on the anus which dion fortune criticised

 

According to crowley the eye of horus symbolised the anus

 

Crowley was in british intelligence and imo when he says he received instructions from the 'secret chiefs' he wasn't in fact talking about instruction from discarnate intelligences but rather from the illuminati hierarchy which of course then takes us to the rothschilds. Crowley referred to himself as the 'apophis of the illuminati' and was seeking to bring about a pagan revival that would destroy christianity which would of course create a vacuum in the west which could be filled with satanism (something we see the music and movie industry trying to achieve through the popular culture they target at the kids)

 

I don't know what you are saying.

 

We know about Crowley.

 

You want to deny there are a disproportinate of homosexual elite who are buggering mainly boys.

 

You want to deny there is a social agenda to promote homosexuality.

 

What's happened to you?

 

 

 

 

[RobSS]

Just now, Golden Retriever said:

 

I don't know what you are saying.

 

We know about Crowley.

 

You want to deny there are a disproportinate of homosexual elite who are buggering mainly boys.

 

You want to deny there is a social agenda to promote homosexuality.

 

What's happened to you?

 

 

 

 

 

Macnamara is looking more deeply into things and getting closer to the truth.

 

 

[Macnamara]

6 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

Crowley was in british intelligence and imo when he says he received instructions from the 'secret chiefs' he wasn't in fact talking about instruction from discarnate intelligences but rather from the illuminati hierarchy which of course then takes us to the rothschilds.

 

The rothschilds are themselves connected with british intelligence and victor rothschild was in MI5

 

Victor rothschild was an advisor to both the edward heath and margaret thatcher governments. The author of the book 'spycatcher' has claimed that heath would sail his yacht 'the morning cloud' over to jersey where he would take boys on board who he would rape, wrap in chains and bury at sea. Its possible that his sexual deviancy made him easily blackmailable but anyway he SIGNED THE UK INTO THE EUROPEAN COMMUNITIES which would then become the european union

 

Victor rothschild was a member of the 'apostles' secret society at cambridge which was a MARXIST group

 

He became connected to the velvet mafia as well as the marxists which as communities overlapped

Edited September 21, 2021 by Macnamara

[Golden Retriever]

3 minutes ago, Fluke said:

I've read somewhere that psychopaths don't really have a preference. Its about control.

 

Some Fluke.

 

But others like the grotesque, pain a young boy suffers being buggered.

 

It really doesn't bear thinking about.

[Macnamara]

Westminster's dirt book: How Government whips covered-up MPs' 'scandals involving small boys' in exchange for loyalty

• Tim Fortescue served as a whip in Heath's government from 1970-73
• Revealed in 1995 interview how whips would 'get a chap out of trouble'
• Scandals involving MPs and debt or 'small boys' would be covered up
• Heath himself kep MPs' secrets in a 'dirt book' to keep them in line

By Matt Chorley, MailOnline Political Editor

Published: 10:23 BST, 8 July 2014 | Updated: 12:56 BST, 8 July 2014

A senior former Tory MP boasted about how Edward Heath’s government could cover up scandals involving them and ‘small boys’.

Tim Fortescue revealed how the whip’s office, which rules over MPs for the party leadership, would try to ‘get a chap out of trouble’ in return for loyalty. He served as a whip between 1970 and 1973.

Mr Heath himself pioneered the keeping of a ‘dirt book’ about MPs' private lives to turn to his political advantage.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2684318/Westminster-s-dirt-book-How-Government-whips-covered-MPs-scandals-involving-small-boys-exchange-loyalty.html

 

 

Edited September 21, 2021 by Macnamara

[Golden Retriever]

2 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

The rothschilds are themselves connected with british intelligence and victor rothschild was in MI5

 

Victor rothschild was an advisor to both the edward heath and margaret thatcher governments. The author of the book 'spycatcher' has claimed that heath would sail his yacht 'the morning cloud' over to jersey where he would take boys on board who he would rape, wrap in chains and bury at sea. Its possible that his sexual deviancy made him easily blackmailable but anyway he SIGNED THE UK INTO THE EUROPEAN COMMUNITIES

 

You know I know all this.

 

Why are you telling me this and defending the homosexual social engineering agenda?

[RobSS]

8 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

Crowley was in british intelligence and imo when he says he received instructions from the 'secret chiefs' he wasn't in fact talking about instruction from discarnate intelligences but rather from the illuminati hierarchy

 

 

He was in contact with both discarnate beings, and actual people in the service of the discarnate.

 

 

[Golden Retriever]

33 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

The pirate council did not specifically refer to homosexuality in our thread

 

We had a thread on endocrine disruption. The purpose of the thread was to look at the ways in which the human endocrine system (ie the various glands which regulate hormones) was being deliberately targetted through the widespread use of hormone mimicking chemicals that were being put into many day to day products by the corporations who in turn were not being regulated by governments

 

Cop out

 

[Golden Retriever]

How they influence people from social engineering

 

 

[RobSS]

Just now, Golden Retriever said:

How they influence people from social engineering

 

 

 

Cringe worthy

 

 

 

[Macnamara]

21 minutes ago, Golden Retriever said:

I don't know what you are saying.

 

I'm saying that there is an occult aspect to abuse

 

A satanic sex magic aspect

 

21 minutes ago, Golden Retriever said:

We know about Crowley.

 

No i'm not sure we really do. I think that he has blown a lot of smoke up around himself which has created a legend that his followers have taken to be gospel truth

 

I don't see him as the prophet of a new aeon. I see him as an asset of the illuminati who was carrying out an agenda to socially engineer society

 

21 minutes ago, Golden Retriever said:

You want to deny there are a disproportinate of homosexual elite who are buggering mainly boys.

 

I don't know the extent of the various perversions going on so i am unable to comment on proportionality

 

All i can talk about is what i have learned about and yes there certainly does seem to be a lot of buggering of boys going on

 

In his book 'magick in theory and practise' crowley speaks about boys being the perfect sacrifice. In the same chapter he specifically refers to the spilling of blood and refers to the reader to james frazers book 'the golden bough' which looks at pre-christian rites across europe and the levant.

 

The defence that crowleyites (people who revere crowley in a sort of cult of personality way) mount is that crowley wasn't refering to actually murdering boys but rather buggering them but i'm not sure how that is then supposed to be acceptable in their eyes.

 

21 minutes ago, Golden Retriever said:

You want to deny there is a social agenda to promote homosexuality.

 

I haven't said that. I think the agenda is wider than that though. I think that the cabal are doing ANYTHING that they can to disrupt the family and the reproductive health of the public and their values and social mores and economic wellbeing. I think they are waging a fullspectrum attack to try and destroy people through death by a thousand cuts. I refer to the myriad ways in which they are doing this collectively as 'cultural marxism'

 

So yes on one hand they might push LGBT issues with the goal of causing a breakdown of the nuclear family or to NORMALISE the gender bending they have caused amongst the young by exposing them to endocrine disrupting chemcials

 

For example they had bisphenol A in the plastics used for babies milk bottles which gender bends people. They put pthalates into many household goods and in britain the government passed laws that forced corporations to pump huge quantities of fire retardant chemicals into all furniture and bedding which are all harmful to the human endocrine system

Edited September 21, 2021 by Macnamara

[Macnamara]

11 minutes ago, RobSS said:

He was in contact with both discarnate beings, and actual people in the service of the discarnate.

 

yeah i'd agree with that

 

The occult rituals were designed to synch him with occult forces so that he could be their conduit here in this 'physical' reality

 

This creates an etheric bond and makes the person part of the occult hive mind

[Golden Retriever]

Sir Phillip Sassoon, a homosexual and a Rothschild had a very cose relationship with the future King David or Edward the 8th. Details of their correspondence and all the gifts Phillip sent to David to follow.

 

Phillip Sassoon (a Rothschild) future King Edward 8th and Churchill

 

This is part of the velvet mafia.

 

Edited September 21, 2021 by Golden Retriever

[RobSS]

Just now, Macnamara said:

 

yeah i'd agree with that

 

The occult rituals were designed to synch him with occult forces so that he could be their conduit here in this 'physical' reality

 

This creates an etheric bond and makes the person part of the occult hive mind

 

They all think they are superior and supreme to everyone else, hence their grand pompous titles, but they are all fragmented and not one of them is allowed to have the full picture of what they're involved in, which is why they have to take orders from different parts of this hive mind that you mention - a hive mind that's controlled by the discarnate beings.

 

 

[Macnamara]

17 minutes ago, Golden Retriever said:

You know I know all this.

 

Why are you telling me this and defending the homosexual social engineering agenda?

 

Its not just for your benefit though is it? Its for anyone who is reading the forum

 

I post information to help people see the various aspects of the conspiracy so that they can see how interconnected this whole thing is

 

For example if they want to understand why the covid jabs are a bioweapon then they need the wider context which is that the corporatocracy (merger of government and corporations) has been poisoning he public in many different ways for a very long time now which has caused many effects)

 

If you want to shine a light on the velvet mafia then a good area to look at is the cambridge 5 spy ring of marxists who were sending british secrets to the soviets during the cold war

 

Those guys were part of various overlapping communities. They were all educated at the elite oxbridge universities (oxford and cambridge) and they were involved in secret societies and marxist groups and also the gay community

 

The fifth member of the group is never named and i suggest that is because it was VICTOR ROTHSCHILD

 

When you start going down those rabbit holes you start to develop a picture of ORGANISED occult perversion that saturates the upper echelons of british society except of course it goes beyond britain which is why there are similar scandals elsewhere like jeffrey epstein and the dutreaux affair and the washington affair

 

What is the commonality that reaches across all of these things? I suggest freemasonry is the umbrella under which all of these people preside

[Golden Retriever]

"I was talking to a friend of mine who has been researching for a long time the prominence of transsexuals and homosexuals within the elite.

He came up with an interesting theory which hasn't been covered as far as I know.

That is, some of the feminists in history and today aren't women at all, they're men, homosexual men.

He gave an example of Emma Goldman.

"During her life, Goldman was lionized as a free-thinking "rebel woman" by admirers, and denounced by detractors as an advocate of politically motivated murder and violent revolution.[Her writing and lectures spanned a wide variety of issues, including prisons, atheism, freedom of speech, militarism, capitalism, marriage, free love, and homosexuality. Although she distanced herself from first-wave feminism and its efforts toward women's suffrage, she developed new ways of incorporating gender politics into anarchism. After decades of obscurity, Goldman gained iconic status by a revival of interest in her life in the 1970s, when feminist and anarchist scholars rekindled popular interest."

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emma_Goldman

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I don't think homosexual men on the whole are fond of heterosexual women at all ... I think they loathe them for obvious reasons.

Homosexual men in particular have gained disproportionate status in positions of power, mainly the Corporate world never seen before.

Why is this happening?

Is there an elite who want homosexual men to rule over the rest of us?

 Nick Griffin has said the Alt Right is being steered into promoting homosexuality. The left do the same.

I'm not a fan of Nick Griffin, but he's right about this topic and he should go further ... delving into politicians, judges, lawyers, bankers, CEO's etc who are homosexual and also possibly pederasts

 

See Nick Griffin's image. Icke forum won't allow it 

 

http://www.hopenothate.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/cover-1.jpg

Edited September 21, 2021 by Golden Retriever

[Golden Retriever]

6 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

Its not just for your benefit though is it? Its for anyone who is reading the forum

 

I post information to help people see the various aspects of the conspiracy so that they can see how interconnected this whole thing is

 

For example if they want to understand why the covid jabs are a bioweapon then they need the wider context which is that the corporatocracy (merger of government and corporations) has been poisoning he public in many different ways for a very long time now which has caused many effects)

 

If you want to shine a light on the velvet mafia then a good area to look at is the cambridge 5 spy ring of marxists who were sending british secrets to the soviets during the cold war

 

Those guys were part of various overlapping communities. They were all educated at the elite oxbridge universities (oxford and cambridge) and they were involved in secret societies and marxist groups and also the gay community

 

The fifth member of the group is never named and i suggest that is because it was VICTOR ROTHSCHILD

 

When you start going down those rabbit holes you start to develop a picture of ORGANISED occult perversion that saturates the upper echelons of british society except of course it goes beyond britain which is why there are similar scandals elsewhere like jeffrey epstein and the dutreaux affair and the washington affair

 

What is the commonality that reaches across all of these things? I suggest freemasonry is the umbrella under which all of these people preside

 

 

Off topic.

 

Talk about the velvet mafia please.

Edited September 21, 2021 by Golden Retriever

[Fluke]

24 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

No i'm not sure we really do. I think that he has blown a lot of smoke up around himself which has created a legend that his followers have taken to be gospel truth

 

Yeah he was definitely a narcissistic maniac part of his popularity was due to the as you say legend he created. 

 

Did you read John Symonds book on crowley macnamara? I got about 70 percent through it and there's some good info in there will finish it later on when I have time. 

 

@Golden Retriever no worries won't go off topic again.

 

@Macnamaracan you point me in the right direction to the info on crowley please because I can't find any solid evidence of him working for intelligence although I did know he wanted to be during the war. Cheers. 

 

(On my Crowley thread or somewhere else)

 

 

Edited September 21, 2021 by Fluke

[RobSS]

1 minute ago, Golden Retriever said:

Why is this happening?

Is there an elite who want homosexual men to rule over the rest of us?

 

 

No - what's happening is that there's a group of Satanists who are trying to shield behind gays and Jews, so no one sees that it's really Satanists who are in charge. They are creating scapegoats for uninformed people to hunt after, so that "They", the Satanists can get away with what they're trying to do, but they're not kidding everyone! 

 

 

[Anti Facts Sir]

It goes deep, for sure.

 

OK, so some of the info and debate here is dipping into areas beyond the OP, but it all has validity in the end.

 

There is a homosexual/gay/deviancy agenda.

 

The media, govts are key to pushing it.

 

Most of the people in those positions are either deviants themselves, victims of abuse or compromised in some way to furthering the agenda. Or are as dumb as fuck to think it's all about equality and being nice to gays.

 

The majority of (historic) deviancy has been men buggering boys. That may be changing, with the further twisting of moralities and the changing of human behaviour as a result of our changing environment.

 

Mac is right to point out the endocrine disruption aspect.

[Macnamara]

6 minutes ago, Fluke said:

Did you read John Symonds book on crowley macnamara?

 

No i haven't read it

 

I think though that in more recent times there have been some people questioning the veracity of crowleys claims for example his foundation story for his thelemic religion which is that he received 'the book of the law' from an entity who spoke to him in a hotel room in egypt

[Golden Retriever]

Abusing boys

 

[Golden Retriever]

This fat pederast abused boys, not girls

 

[Macnamara]

9 minutes ago, Golden Retriever said:

Off topic.

 

Talk about the velvet mafia please.

 

are you even reading my posts GR? i AM talking about the velvet mafia. The cambridge 5 spy ring are intimately connected to that scene

 

another area that lifts the lid on deviancy in the british establishment is the kincora boys school in ireland which once again involved intelligence agencies using blackmail

After Dark - British Intelligence - Kincora Boys

 

[Anti Facts Sir]

1 minute ago, Golden Retriever said:

Abusing boys

 

As Anders used to say, "there are no coincidences".

 

They made sure to close the door on any progress being made to blow open the whole VIP abuse ring. Created "Nick", discredited the police in charge, suicided all the main players...etc etc.