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18 minutes ago, novymir said:

There's nothing to learn in this thing(it is not "reality") except what would result if it were possible to leave Reality.

One either serves Truth, or the not that...Truth and Realty are One. And Only One.

One cannot "get lost in Reality", that's a rather absurd idea.

One could momentarily experience being "lost" in a deceptive dream though...til they start to wake up...

 

I don't want to distract from the topic of this thread, so I've replied to here:

 

 

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4 hours ago, RobSS said:

Another reason why I don't think he mafia under the control of the cabal is gay is because so many of the players are heterosexual, like Harvey Weinstein, Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell, for example, etc. & etc.

 

 

What's actually funny is that most people on this thread don't even know that at the very top, the controllers are in fact neither homosexual nor heterosexual, rather a-sexual, in a way we cannot understand. They use the knowledge of power of sexual energy in a different way. Their perception of sex is vastly different from us..

 

The homophobia stories, like the pedophilia stories with widely circulated photos of 'elite' with boys/ girls/ minors are merely distractions from their agenda, that keeps the common man busy with being revolted at the periodic release of information and selected photos about the elites' sexual proclivities (all photos copyright Getty or Reuters).

 

Apart from serving as a distraction, they are also meant to keep the lower level minions in control, by harnessing their innate tendencies and baser instincts to some addiction. That ties in with also with how these widely publicised stories help to attract new recruits. 

 

The history of homophobia is in fact and interesting social engineering project that the elite have successfully done and most people are so unaware, focusing on the distraction and either getting into fights about it or acting on their suppressed impulses thinking that such activity will get them into the 'boys' club'. Why can't people understand how this bread and circus works?

 

 

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6 hours ago, m754 said:

 

What's actually funny is that most people on this thread don't even know that at the very top, the controllers are in fact neither homosexual nor heterosexual, rather a-sexual, in a way we cannot understand. They use the knowledge of power of sexual energy in a different way. Their perception of sex is vastly different from us..

 

The homophobia stories, like the pedophilia stories with widely circulated photos of 'elite' with boys/ girls/ minors are merely distractions from their agenda, that keeps the common man busy with being revolted at the periodic release of information and selected photos about the elites' sexual proclivities (all photos copyright Getty or Reuters).

 

Apart from serving as a distraction, they are also meant to keep the lower level minions in control, by harnessing their innate tendencies and baser instincts to some addiction. That ties in with also with how these widely publicised stories help to attract new recruits. 

 

The history of homophobia is in fact and interesting social engineering project that the elite have successfully done and most people are so unaware, focusing on the distraction and either getting into fights about it or acting on their suppressed impulses thinking that such activity will get them into the 'boys' club'. Why can't people understand how this bread and circus works?

 

 

 

I don't think you have any clue what you're talking about...

 

 

 

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7 hours ago, m754 said:

 

What's actually funny is that most people on this thread don't even know that at the very top, the controllers are in fact neither homosexual nor heterosexual, rather a-sexual, in a way we cannot understand. They use the knowledge of power of sexual energy in a different way. Their perception of sex is vastly different from us..

 

The homophobia stories, like the pedophilia stories with widely circulated photos of 'elite' with boys/ girls/ minors are merely distractions from their agenda, that keeps the common man busy with being revolted at the periodic release of information and selected photos about the elites' sexual proclivities (all photos copyright Getty or Reuters).

 

Apart from serving as a distraction, they are also meant to keep the lower level minions in control, by harnessing their innate tendencies and baser instincts to some addiction. That ties in with also with how these widely publicised stories help to attract new recruits. 

 

The history of homophobia is in fact and interesting social engineering project that the elite have successfully done and most people are so unaware, focusing on the distraction and either getting into fights about it or acting on their suppressed impulses thinking that such activity will get them into the 'boys' club'. Why can't people understand how this bread and circus works?

 

 

A man who is tied up with the time consuming responsibilities and mental distractions of having to look after a family, and having to bring up children, is much better for the powers that be because the last thing the PTB want is a man who has all the time in the world on his hands to think about how he might be controlled, and when he's not thinking about that, he has plenty of time to be creative, and creativity is another thing the powers that be don't want anyone exploiting.

 

When Adam and Eve were expelled from paradise and the garden of Eden and experienced the Fall, they lost access to a great treasure, the tree of life. The angels knew and understood that man would look everywhere for that treasure... the North pole, the South pole, on top of the highest mountain, on the bed of the deepest sea, and even on the moon and on the outer planets. So the angels thought to themselves,.. where shall we hide the treasure where man will not go looking for it? So they buried the treasure in the heart of man, they'll never find it there!

 

So homophobia serves a useful purpose because it gives people with a lot of time for thinking about the interests of society, and creativity, the run around, and traumatised from the homophobic attacks, they cannot focus on how they're being manipulated and how to be creative to have a happy life.

 

But it's even more complex than this because if the powers that be lose the ability to mind control society to treat gay people with contempt and as outcasts, they swing things round to the other extreme, so that gay men are tempted and seduced into partying, nightclubbing, drugs and living a life of sensuality and carnal excess. That also serves the purpose of distracting men who have too much time on the their hands, and giving them the run around, so they can't find about the treasure within.

 

The best societies, for the powers that be, are either societies of strict sexual controls and inhibitions, or societies that are decadent and out of control with carnal pleasures. The PTB never give us a society that somewhere in between. I've often marvelled at that.

 

England used to be a country of sexual taboo and inhibition until about the 1960's, give or take a decade or two. Then England went to the other extreme, so that by the mid to late 1980's and beyond, it became a country of increasing decadence and out of control carnal pleasures. There was only a very brief period of balance between 1979 and 1981. In my life, looking back at society as a whole in England, those were the two most balanced years.

 

We've been living through a number of decadent decades in which there have been so many temptations of the flesh and distractions, so a lot of gay men, instead of being creative and helping to look after the good of society, went off and sought fame and fortune and a life of partying, sensuality and forgetfulness in drugs. Not all gays have done that. Unfortunately, I indulged in the sensuality side of things for a while, but learned from the experience and hopefully, I'm able to turn things around, and in so doing, undo mind control that sprung out of falling for the run around. Unfortunately, the life of decadence has also spilled into  heterosexual society too.

 

 

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The problem with following the stories of homosexuality (or pedophilia) either through carefully released narratives on mainstream media or through stories broadcast repeatedly on truth platforms is as follows---one would think that the problem is exclusive to the elite in some way.

 

We need to look at human history and ancient cultures, if we follow the given storyline of history. (At a more esoteric level, that history represents the programming that we are born with..) ..anyway...back to the topic--
In the middle east, boys are culturally preferred choice. In South America, even now, child pregnancy and incest is quite common and part of culture.  Girls as young as 11-12 years of age routinely come to NGOs when impregnated by father or brother. And shameful stuff happens to boys as well. The ones doing it are not elite by any measure and are not exposed to 24 hour p orn streams or movies, or media or satanic music, nor coerced by the bad elite PTB, and no Juw forcing anyone to do bad stuff. They might in fact be playing pan-flutes during the day or working on the farm, ie living normal lives... Point is ---it is in-built human nature—the weakness in our programming that , (if we go the esoteric route)--got us here in the first place. The basic instincts are the same in all of us.

 
That is why in spiritual practices they say that we should sit quietly and watch our thoughts----all the story comes from inside—through the programming that we have brought forward with us. 


If we go the historical route to understand homosexuality---and purely from a social evolution perspective—

men went out to hunt (because women were bearing children etc.) ... .And they went to hunt in groups, later formed farming communities, stayed close to support each other and offer protection and defence against predators, first non-verbal support and later with language development sharing of knowledge.

 

This form of brotherhood was carried forward to forming clubs, groups, religious and academic institutions, religious groups etc.

 

Now when the brotherhood was taken underground to make knowledge ‘elitist’, secretive collusion necessitated that the number of men who could be invited in should be limited.

An elite group can only be formed if information and knowledge is controlled in the hands of a few people.

 

How do they prevent the rest of the men from forming communities and bonding and continuing the sharing of knowledge and resources?

 

The unit structure of family was promoted where one man is responsible in isolation for woman and children.

Each man is thus burdened with the newly thrust and newly defined role of exclusive breadwinner for one woman and the progeny. The man’s identity was tied to that unit.

 

And association with other men was slowly re-defined to be having sexual undertones, which was already pre-established as taboo under fake religious doctrine and social rules and later laws in many countries.

 

Association in brotherhoods was thus slowly restricted to exclusive groups, which as always were about power and money and control but at the gatekeeper level were falsely publicised only as dens of vice etc.

 

Since talks of anything sexual elicits very strong responses in humans, all attention is focused on any sex that the elite might be having and with whom.


Furthermore, nowadays the gay community is deliberately portrayed in media as fancy dress caricatures with certain mannerisms….whereas the homosexual men of yore were just normal men.. A normal man can be homosexual as well.

 

The si*sy portrayal created a further aversion in the general public/ men who are now not only trying to suppress their atavistic tendencies but also have been conditioned and programmed that men walk a certain way and dress a certain way and like only women etc….all hammered in again and again throughout college life, work life, media etc. The si*sy persona contrasts more with the macho image programmed in society.

 

That suppression when it bursts forth takes the form of the kinky perversions we read about.

 

A wrong release for an emotion not understood properly. It is the resurgence of an atavistic urge bursting forth in a wrong way due to constant suppression.


It is in fact the seeking of the male companionship and bonding and group therapy that was taken away from men and they were left to be single unit caretakers of woman and child.

 

The men are not as strong as they have been conditioned to believe. They need help and support of other men as a brotherhood, but to express this desire they are now forced to choose between either being thought of as homosexuals whose interest is only sex, or to join masonic brotherhoods which at the lower levels are deliberately kept limited to baser practices, which: 1) acts as a filtering mechanism, 2) a scarecrow; and 3) a social engineering tool to make only those idiots successful who succumb to temptation at that first stage for a few pennies—and who are put on stage to depict as evil and satanic—and are disposable—while the real top guys watch from the shadows.

 

The PTB use the understanding of sexual instinct to alternatively provoke it for surge of instincts depending upon one’s predispositions and simultaneously create shame around it through re-wiring social mores to ‘modern’ standards.

 

Thus there is public shaming of errants and immense emotional involvement as society tries to conform to these man made standards that are against natural instincts. 

 

 

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9 hours ago, m754 said:

 

What's actually funny is that most people on this thread don't even know that at the very top, the controllers are in fact neither homosexual nor heterosexual, rather a-sexual, in a way we cannot understand. They use the knowledge of power of sexual energy in a different way. Their perception of sex is vastly different from us..

 

The homophobia stories, like the pedophilia stories with widely circulated photos of 'elite' with boys/ girls/ minors are merely distractions from their agenda, that keeps the common man busy with being revolted at the periodic release of information and selected photos about the elites' sexual proclivities (all photos copyright Getty or Reuters).

 

Apart from serving as a distraction, they are also meant to keep the lower level minions in control, by harnessing their innate tendencies and baser instincts to some addiction. That ties in with also with how these widely publicised stories help to attract new recruits. 

 

The history of homophobia is in fact and interesting social engineering project that the elite have successfully done and most people are so unaware, focusing on the distraction and either getting into fights about it or acting on their suppressed impulses thinking that such activity will get them into the 'boys' club'. Why can't people understand how this bread and circus works?

 

 

Yes I did state earlier in this thread that a lot of paychopaths use rape as a form of control and particularly peadophiles. A lot of these types dont care if its a boy or girl. The wrong part is that they are kids.

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23 minutes ago, m754 said:

The problem with following the stories of homosexuality (or pedophilia) either through carefully released narratives on mainstream media or through stories broadcast repeatedly on truth platforms is as follows---one would think that the problem is exclusive to the elite in some way.

 

Looking at this through the conspiratorial lens there are two points that instantly spring to mind

 

First of all psychopaths are drawn to power like moths to a flame. This means that they congregate in any positions in society that offer them influence over other people; which in turn means that you will find higher numbers and higher degrees of psychopathy in areas like corporate businesses, politics, law, media, medicine and so on because these can offer psychopaths avenues for devilment

 

So when we talk about 'the elites' we really are talking about concentrations of psychopathy but that doesn't mean that it is exclusive to the elites which brings me to my next point which goes to the old argument of nature v's nurture

 

I personally believe that both nature and nurture are at play and that people can be affected by their culture. So once again looking at this from the point of view of a conspiracy where there are psychopaths who are organised and working together to enslave the rest of humanity we can perceive their efforts to degrade culture and societal mores as they know that they can poison the soul of society and encourage immoral behaviours

 

Like i have said elsewhere psychopaths are hereditary but sociopaths are made which means that if a psychopathic culture is advanced it will encourage increasing levels of sociopathy within wider society

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33 minutes ago, m754 said:

 

If we go the historical route to understand homosexuality---and purely from a social evolution perspective—

men went out to hunt (because women were bearing children etc.) ... .And they went to hunt in groups, later formed farming communities, stayed close to support each other and offer protection and defence against predators, first non-verbal support and later with language development sharing of knowledge.

 

This form of brotherhood was carried forward to forming clubs, groups, religious and academic institutions, religious groups etc.

 

Now when the brotherhood was taken underground to make knowledge ‘elitist’, secretive collusion necessitated that the number of men who could be invited in should be limited.

An elite group can only be formed if information and knowledge is controlled in the hands of a few people.

 

 

Are you saying that the origin of secret societies lies in homosexuality?

 

I'm not sure I followed your line of reasoning. 

 

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Now when the brotherhood was taken underground to make knowledge ‘elitist’, secretive collusion necessitated that the number of men who could be invited in should be limited.

An elite group can only be formed if information and knowledge is controlled in the hands of a few people.

 

How do they prevent the rest of the men from forming communities and bonding and continuing the sharing of knowledge and resources?

 

The unit structure of family was promoted where one man is responsible in isolation for woman and children.

Each man is thus burdened with the newly thrust and newly defined role of exclusive breadwinner for one woman and the progeny. The man’s identity was tied to that unit.

 

And association with other men was slowly re-defined to be having sexual undertones, which was already pre-established as taboo under fake religious doctrine and social rules and later laws in many countries.

 

Association in brotherhoods was thus slowly restricted to exclusive groups, which as always were about power and money and control but at the gatekeeper level were falsely publicised only as dens of vice etc.

 

Since talks of anything sexual elicits very strong responses in humans, all attention is focused on any sex that the elite might be having and with whom.


Furthermore, nowadays the gay community is deliberately portrayed in media as fancy dress caricatures with certain mannerisms….whereas the homosexual men of yore were just normal men.. A normal man can be homosexual as well.

 

The si*sy portrayal created a further aversion in the general public/ men who are now not only trying to suppress their atavistic tendencies but also have been conditioned and programmed that men walk a certain way and dress a certain way and like only women etc….all hammered in again and again throughout college life, work life, media etc. The si*sy persona contrasts more with the macho image programmed in society.

 

That suppression when it bursts forth takes the form of the kinky perversions we read about.

 

A wrong release for an emotion not understood properly. It is the resurgence of an atavistic urge bursting forth in a wrong way due to constant suppression.


It is in fact the seeking of the male companionship and bonding and group therapy that was taken away from men and they were left to be single unit caretakers of woman and child.

 

The men are not as strong as they have been conditioned to believe. They need help and support of other men as a brotherhood, but to express this desire they are now forced to choose between either being thought of as homosexuals whose interest is only sex, or to join masonic brotherhoods which at the lower levels are deliberately kept limited to baser practices, which: 1) acts as a filtering mechanism, 2) a scarecrow; and 3) a social engineering tool to make only those idiots successful who succumb to temptation at that first stage for a few pennies—and who are put on stage to depict as evil and satanic—and are disposable—while the real top guys watch from the shadows.

 

The PTB use the understanding of sexual instinct to alternatively provoke it for surge of instincts depending upon one’s predispositions and simultaneously create shame around it through re-wiring social mores to ‘modern’ standards.

 

Thus there is public shaming of errants and immense emotional involvement as society tries to conform to these man made standards that are against natural instincts.

 

but even men in hunter gather societies have wives and families even though they may hunt together and have male rites of passage involving the imparting of knowledge to the next generation of men

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8 hours ago, RobSS said:

 

Are you saying that the origin of secret societies lies in homosexuality?

 

I'm not sure I followed your line of reasoning. 

 

 

The point I was trying to make was--


Sexual tendencies of whatever nature, are programmed in all humans and not restricted to elite. Quite frighteningly, traces of all such tendencies exist in all of us as residual memories/ pre-programming, manifested variously and to different degrees depending of individual predisposition.

 

 

The focus in ancient communities was not on sex exclusively as we have these days. Sex was not the main driver because the daily interactions for hunting, farming, travel, fighting etc processed and prevented the innate tendencies from springing up only in a sexual form.

 

We are currently programmed into believing that all close bonds between two people of any gender derive first and foremost from sex and nothing else.

 

But if you do an experiment of actually having a fulfilling relationship with another person of either gender to whom you are drawn or attracted, you will find that emotional bonding can occur in non sexual ways as well.

 

In ancient cultures sexual practices were done more consciously, more naturally and often ritualistically, and the pleasure aspect was not the primary motive. The community or human bonding aspect that gave them strength was more important.

 

There is a fulfilment to be found in work, play etc. especially when those people were living in tandem with nature, and had more exposure to natural elements than we have now, but that opportunity to bond is now only restricted to occasional short interactions in sports etc---not a natural bonding that happens over the course of your daily life. That may occasionally have taken the form of sex, but that was not the primary reason. The bonding and community support was the main focus.

 

 

That could be said to be how groups of men got together for various reasons—farming, hunting, later on academia, then commerce, etc and even later that also led to development of secret societies. 

 

Therefore, when the secret brotherhoods took shape, the community support and opportunistic sharing and control of information and knowledge aspect was down played.

 

Whereas previously all knowledge was publicly shared and passed on, serving to benefit entire communities and not a self-appointed group of elites.

 

 

So homosexuality was not the roots of brotherhoods, community support and sharing of knowledge was.

 

 

Homosexuality was promoted/ vilified as a substitute for the community bonding that needed to be discouraged except in sexual way, propagating that indeed these interactions must have a sexual component, forming a false association that all man to man affinity necessarily has a sexual component.  The promotion of homosexuality went hand in hand with the vilification—therefore the shame and ostracization impacted the health of individuals and society further.

 

Homosexuality thus served to deflect attention from what the brotherhoods were actually up to by shifting society’s focus on sex and that all same sex interactions are necessarily sexual nature,


 

There are some who are naturally homosexual, that is not the point here..

I am talking of those who are feeling a gap in their lives, something that would have been satisfied earlier with human bonding, but just like a teenager from an abusive unloving family environment, falls prey to the first person who shows some empathy and wrongly associates that sex equates with bonding and love, likewise those men erroneously focus on the sex aspect in seeking male company. The line between need to bond and the crossover to seeking sex as a fulfilment of that need is very thin. Had they had access to community bonding and social support, many would not have acted on those instincts or at least not let those instincts define who they are.

 

 

This served to prevent any non sexual bonding or cooperation among men as well because any interaction carried the risk of being labelled as homosexual and thus taboo or even illegal. This pre-empted the possibility of any unity of action arising.

 

 

 

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On 11/15/2021 at 1:25 AM, m754 said:

 

The point I was trying to make was--

 

[...] homosexuality was not the roots of brotherhoods, community support and sharing of knowledge was.

 

 

Thanks for clarifying that homosexuality was not the root of secret societies - no gay mafia there then - but to say that community support, and sharing of knowledge, was the root is a rather superficial explanation in comparison to David Icke's research.

 

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7 hours ago, RobSS said:

 

Thanks for clarifying that homosexuality was not the root of secret societies - no gay mafia there then - but to say that community support, and sharing of knowledge, was the root is a rather superficial explanation in comparison to David Icke's research.

 

 

Well....I did not compel you in any way to believe in my opinion.

 

In fact I would have been rather surprised if you had agreed wholeheartedly with what I had written...

 

So please carry on with what you believe in.

 

My posts here are not meant to convert other members to my way of thinking.

 

And I most certainly have not spent as much time as David Icke on researching this topic..

 

Please feel free to ignore my posts.

 

Adios.

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https://www.truthspoon.com/2021/12/the-zohar-and-introduction-of-forbidden.html

 

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The Kabbalah then is the attempt to justify the backsliding of Israel through semantic tricks and word-play in order to justify many of the things which were specifically forbidden by the Torah, above all of them being initiation into the occult mysteries which the Kabbalah specifically exalts.

 

There are many chapters of the Zohar which relate the supposed secret initiations of the Hebrew patriarchs, again as we have seen, using the selective use of passages from the Torah to give false justification for the exegesis. 


“It is stated, 'He went on his journeys from the south even into Bethel, the place where he had pitched his tent at the beginning'; he progressed and advanced in the divine life so that by the mental and spiritual illumination which he ultimately attained, he became fully initiated into the comprehension and understanding of the mysteries of the Hidden Wisdom and graduated to that degree termed 'teleiaor,' perfection, when it is written, 'And there Abraham called on the name of the Lord' (Gen. XIII. 4) and became a just man made perfect. Blessed are they who attain unto this degree of righteousness, for they become invested with an aureole of light and are jewels in the crown of the Holy One. Blessed are they in this world and in. the world to come. Of these it is written, 'The path of the just is as the shining light that shineth more and more unto the perfect day' (Prov. IV. 18)."


"On observing this general depravation of manners and modes of living, it is written, 'And Abraham went down into Egypt to sojourn there.' Here the question may arise, what was the reason and object of his going down into Egypt? It was because at that time Egypt was a great center of learning, of Theosophy and the science of the Divine Mysteries, and therefore referred to in scripture as 'the garden of the Lord like the land of Egypt.' In it, as in the garden of Eden, of which it is stated, 'From the right of it went forth a river called Pison that encompassed the whole land of Havilah, where there is gold,’ flowed a great mystical river of divine knowledge, very precious and unobtainable elsewhere. Abraham having entered into the garden of Eden and become an adept in the secret doctrine, desirous of passing through all its grades on two the higher mysteries in order to become 'teloios' or perfect, went down into Egypt where there was gold, or the Hidden Wisdom." 


So, the implication is clear that the prohibition of initiatory or transformative rites of the pagans which are continually rebuked in the Torah are now reversed and such rites are specifically encouraged, indeed, such is the whole purpose of the Kabbalah. 


The very fact of initiation is something forbidden in the earliest Greek translation of the Hebrew Bible the Septuagint. The name Septuagint comes from the story that Ptolemy II the Greek Pharoah of Egypt of the 3rd century BC who asked for a translation of the Torah from Hebrew to Greek to be included in the Library of Alexandria by 72 Jewish Elders.


“There shall not be a harlot of the daughters of Israel, and there shall not be a fornicator of the sons of Israel; there shall not be an idolatress of the daughters of Israel, and there shall not be an initiated person of the sons of Israel.” Deuteronomy 23:17 


‘Initiated’ person is usually translated as ‘ritual homosexual prostitution’ and this line was added by the 70 Jewish scholars to further clarify the following verse. 


“Thou shalt not bring the hire of a harlot, or the wages of a dog, into the house of Jehovah thy God for any vow: for even both these are an abomination unto Jehovah thy God.” 


The wages of a dog is also translated as “male prostitute's payment” and this is because this was associated with the mysteries of Anubis, hence the Septuagint’s reference to ‘initiation’.


With this in mind may we assume that the biggest secret of secret society initiation is the homosexual sex act? It is this force which now rules the world today through the proxy of Freemasonry which it infiltrated via Rosicrucianism and the general Alchemical sciences transmitted by those Kabbalistic Jews to the idealistic and perhaps well-meaning Christians to infect the West.

 

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7 hours ago, m754 said:

 

Well....I did not compel you in any way to believe in my opinion.

 

In fact I would have been rather surprised if you had agreed wholeheartedly with what I had written...

 

So please carry on with what you believe in.

 

My posts here are not meant to convert other members to my way of thinking.

 

And I most certainly have not spent as much time as David Icke on researching this topic..

 

Please feel free to ignore my posts.

 

Adios.

 

I didn't say, or even think that you were trying to compel anyone to believe your opinion. I was simply replying that there's a lot more behind what went on regarding the creation of secret societies than just human fellowship, and I don't think it was just about homosexual affinities, as there are innumerable heterosexual men who are attracted to these bodies. You're fine to disagree too, or ignore what I've written.

 

Ciao.

 

 

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22 minutes ago, Truthspoon said:

 

With this is mind are we to assume that the biggest secret of secret society initiation is the homosexual sex act?

 

 

Says you, in huge, bold letters, who often accuses me of having an ego. You even criticised me once, for a post that was too long, but I think you just said that because you couldn't find any reasonabale argument to counter what I'd written, but I don't use tactics like that, and is the text going to that big and bold in your upcoming book? Obviously a book for children, then.

 

I was interested in looking for facts, in your extract, to back up any claim that the biggest secret, of secret society initiation, is the homosexual act. I know that you're very hot on facts, and that you pride yourself for basing your reality on facts (still trying to work out what those facts are, btw) because, according to you, anything that isn't factual is dreaming, and belongs to the day dreamer, but in your long extract, I couldn't find any facts to back up any such claim. All I could find was supposition, innuendo, and wishful thinking. I don't think you're book is going to be of much use if that's all you've got. Might be good exercise in day dreaming though.

 

 

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3 hours ago, Truthspoon said:

 

I just posted a page full you doofus.

 

So you're a gay first and Christian second huh?

 

Goddit. 

 

Lukewarm.

 

A second request for facts. Your extract posed a question, which was answered with supposition, innuendo, and possibly wishful thinking and fantasy. Unless you have facts, which you've staked your reputation on, carry on day dreaming.

 

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1 hour ago, Truthspoon said:

 

You've given no reason to click on the link, other than posting the title. I don't think anyone would deny that there may be homosexuals in secret societies, and that some more radical lodges may engage in sex acts and possibly even orgies, as Stanley Kubrick suggested in his film, "Eyes Wide Shut", but it's not just homosexuals that probably engage in such acts, heterosexuals are likely to do it too, but since you've only focusing on homosexuals. In this thread, you've referred to gay people as "faggots", so it's clear you've an agenda, just as you've an agenda against people with a different colour skin to you. Also in this thread, you stated the UK could become a "brown mess", and in other posts, you've made comments, saying that the UK is, "a brown man's bigamist Kingdom", and that blacks want to murder white people.

 

 

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Why do you feel the need to defend homosexuality?

 

The Bible is fairly clear about it.


Personally I do not have any great contempt or hatred for homosexuals.... I consider such things none of my business as long as it is fully consensual and between adults and kept private and does not become a force for social destabilisation.....

 

Which alas it has.....

 

I think it's clear that homosexuality is one of the weaponised tools of the ancient mystery religions which has become part of the arsenal of the destruction of western society because that mystery religion is emerging in the vacuum left by Christianity.....

 

So are you a Christian or are you a gay?

 

You can be both of course....to some extent...... but ultimately you do have to choose, that is if you as a Christian want to see the truth of the world for the Old Testament is fairly clear about homosexuality being a tool of the Babylonian and Egyptian mystery religions..... and I fully concur with this view.

 

So your defense of homosexuality is forcing you to deny the Bible...


Cannot serve two masters....etc...

 

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, RobSS said:

 I don't think anyone would deny that there may be homosexuals in secret societies

 

Just to play devils advocate here, crowley did make the highest degree of the OTO into a homosexual sex act

 

2 hours ago, RobSS said:

and that blacks want to murder white people.

 

some do for sure. How do i know this 'for sure'? Well i lookin the newspapers every day and am confronted with a certain reality

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1 hour ago, Macnamara said:

 

Just to play devils advocate here, crowley did make the highest degree of the OTO into a homosexual sex act

 

 

some do for sure. How do i know this 'for sure'? Well i lookin the newspapers every day and am confronted with a certain reality

 

Why pick on gays or blacks when some whites also do these things?

 

 

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