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9 minutes ago, RobSS said:

I think you need to take this up with "woke" people and argue with them!

 

no at this moment i'm pulling you up for saying that racism is descriminating against someone because they are 'black'

 

do you honestly think that there aren't hispanic people, black people, chinese people, pakisthani people etc etc etc out there who don't descriminate against white people or say derogatory or stereotyping things about white people?

 

if you do then you aren't living in the real world

 

so if you are going to define racism then may i suggest that you don't single out any particular race and instead define it in a more universal way that applies to EVERYONE equally and not act as if its some burden that only black people have ever had to or will ever have to shoulder

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2 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

no at this moment i'm pulling you up for saying that racism is descriminating against someone because they are 'black'

 

 

 

You're tilting at windmills or you missed the post I made a short while ago where I already stated that white people can be discriminated against, just as white people can also discriminate against blacks, etc. It can go either way. So you do still need to find a "woke" person to argue this out with. See here:

 

 

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9 minutes ago, RobSS said:

You're tilting at windmills

 

i don't think you were even conscious of what you were doing in that post

 

well a lot of stuff is going to become conscious for a lot of people because the reality train is coming

 

too many people not seeing where the real problems are

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3 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

i don't think you were even conscious of what you were doing in that post

 

 

What do you mean by that? I meant exactly what I wrote! Anyone can be discriminated against, actually, but discrimination based on prejudice is always wrong, whether it's against blacks, whites, people with red hair, gays, lesbians short people, you name it, even social class discrimination. it's sad and it's immoral.

 

 

 

 

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1 minute ago, RobSS said:

What do you mean by that? 

 

i mean what i said that there is an anti white bias out there in the world and its growing

 

and the reality is that it isn't white people per se that ARE the oppressors. Its a bloodline cult of occultists that are the problem but i don't look at a newspaper and hear university professors calling them out

 

no what i hear are things like this:

‘We gotta take these motherf**kers out’: Rutgers professor says white people ‘committed to being villains’

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Just now, Macnamara said:

 

i mean what i said that there is an anti white bias out there in the world and its growing

 

and the reality is that it isn't white people per se that ARE the oppressors. Its a bloodline cult of occultists that are the problem but i don't look at a newspaper and hear university professors calling them out

 

no what i hear are things like this:

‘We gotta take these motherf**kers out’: Rutgers professor says white people ‘committed to being villains’

29 Oct, 2021 20:22
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Well, when I said that anyone can be discriminated against, I really meant it, and you're illustrating what I'm saying.

 

 

 

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Anti-racism professor deletes tweet about students lying they’re NOT WHITE to improve admission odds, denounces critics as racists

1 Nov, 2021 01:05
Critical race theorist Ibram Kendi may have inadvertently undermined his life’s work with a since-deleted tweet, and he turned to a familiar tactic when mocked for the gaffe, essentially calling one critic a racist.

The episode began with Kendi, the Boston University professor whose anti-racism institute was funded by Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey, reacting on Friday to a media report indicating that 34% of white US college applicants had lied about their race on applications to improve their chances at gaining admissions and financial aid. As Kendi’s tweet noted, more than three-fourths of the students who pretended to be non-white were accepted into their targeted college.

Online critics, such as authors James Lindsay and Chad Felix Greene, argued that Kendi accidentally admitted non-whites are favored in college admissions – contrary to his teachings.The professor has built a career on telling Americans that whites are systemically privileged and should be discriminated against to remedy past injustices.

https://www.rt.com/usa/539019-students-lying-race-privilege-kendi/

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15 hours ago, RobSS said:

 

As far as I'm concerned, there is no homosexual elite, no more than there is an heterosexual elite. Elitism is in the eye of the beholder. There are some individuals who have done a lot to achieve status in whatever field they are in, and their gay sexuality is just a coincidence. Stephen Fry didn't become who he is just because he is gay, but he has used his sexuality to enhance his persona. Not all gays do that. It's not a black and white issue. It comes down to individuality.

 

Just out of curiosity, even though I don't regard Stephen Fry as being elite or in some way above me or any other person, what terrible thing are you accusing him of exactly? Does being photographed with the Queen make you guilty of anything, in and of itself? If there had been cameras in ancient times, would Moses have been guilty of something for being photographed with the Pharaoh? Would Daniel have been guilty of something for being photographed with Nebuchadnezzar?

 

Having said that, I've never said ALL gay people are innocent, as there are obviously gay men who have committed serious crimes against humanity, such as Dennis Nilsen. He wasn't innocent. He was found guilty of being a serial murderer, So I'm still waiting for you to back up your claim that i said ALL gay people are innocent. Either back up your claim or stop making things up.

 

 

 

I agree with you about the word elite, never liked it, but what should people who have power, influence within the "establishment" and money be called.

 

I have looked back through some of the thread and can see you never made a claim "all homosexuals are innocent", so I retract that statement and apologise.

 

I disagree with you about, I'll call them "influential" homosexuals. Imo they are disproportionately represented now in many spheres including Hollywood, media in general, fashion, music industry, politics and the secret services.

 

I do believe there was a cover up concerning paedophilia in Parliament and it was mainly high profile homosexual MP's who were involved.

 

As far as Stephen Fry is concerned, it's my opinion he's part of the establishment gang and is being paid handsomely to further their agendas.

 

There was a thread about him on the hacked forum, but I don't remember all the details.

 

"Plans to stage a comedy penned by actor Stephen Fry about paedophilia in a public school were condemned today. The award-winning play, which details a homosexual affair between a teacher and his 13-year-old pupil, is to be staged at Edinburgh's Festival Fringe."

 

"What kind of person thinks that paedophilia is funny? Hopefully theatre-goers will have the good sense to give this a wide berth." Lorraine Gray, of charity Children 1st, said: "We work with young victims of abuse who have been scarred for life by their experiences. "So we would be very concerned about any play that legitimises or trivialises the exploitation of young people by those in a position of trust."

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-107854/Frys-comedy-comes-fire.html

 

And here's his plug for the vaccine

 

Covid: Stephen Fry hails ‘wonderful moment’ as he is vaccinated in Westminster Abbey

Stephen Fry gets COVID vaccination in Westminster Abbey

 

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11 hours ago, Macnamara said:

 

 

‘We gotta take these motherf**kers out’: Rutgers professor says white people ‘committed to being villains’

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The thing about Blacks is that they do seem to be obsessed with tribal violence which translates as gang violence in the cities.


Them wanting to murder white people isn't particularly 'racist' in itself, it's just Black mentality and its constant need to create enemies and attempt to murder them.

 

There are probably anthropological reasons for this..... but the voice of the primitive black savage mind is not something human civilisation has any business listening to.

The only reason these people are given a voice is because someone wants to destroy civilisation.

 

 

 

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38 minutes ago, Golden Retriever said:

 

I agree with you about the word elite, never liked it, but what should people who have power, influence within the "establishment" and money be called.

 

I have looked back through some of the thread and can see you never made a claim "all homosexuals are innocent", so I retract that statement and apologise.

 

I disagree with you about, I'll call them "influential" homosexuals. Imo they are disproportionately represented now in many spheres including Hollywood, media in general, fashion, music industry, politics and the secret services.

 

I do believe there was a cover up concerning paedophilia in Parliament and it was mainly high profile homosexual MP's who were involved.

 

As far as Stephen Fry is concerned, it's my opinion he's part of the establishment gang and is being paid handsomely to further their agendas.

 

There was a thread about him on the hacked forum, but I don't remember all the details.

 

"Plans to stage a comedy penned by actor Stephen Fry about paedophilia in a public school were condemned today. The award-winning play, which details a homosexual affair between a teacher and his 13-year-old pupil, is to be staged at Edinburgh's Festival Fringe."

 

"What kind of person thinks that paedophilia is funny? Hopefully theatre-goers will have the good sense to give this a wide berth." Lorraine Gray, of charity Children 1st, said: "We work with young victims of abuse who have been scarred for life by their experiences. "So we would be very concerned about any play that legitimises or trivialises the exploitation of young people by those in a position of trust."

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-107854/Frys-comedy-comes-fire.html

 

And here's his plug for the vaccine

 

Covid: Stephen Fry hails ‘wonderful moment’ as he is vaccinated in Westminster Abbey

Stephen Fry gets COVID vaccination in Westminster Abbey

 

 

Here in England, we live in a relatively free and open society where people can say controversial things and stage controversial plays, etc. I wouldn't be interested in going to see a play about a 13 year old having a sexual relationship with an adult, so I just ignore it and don't go. I don't obsess about it. I just move on to something that does interest me, in the same way that if I'm in a market, for example, and I see a stall that doesn't interest me, I just move on to the next until, finally, I come across something that suits my tastes.

 

Paedophilia is illegal in the UK and offenders should be brought to justice. That's where the real fight against paedophilia should take place. Once the government starts censoring plays, and what can and what can't be made to become make believe in a theatre, it's a very slippery slope to tyranny and totalitarianism, and it's already happened in England before, when the Puritans banned theatre completely in the 17th century.

 

Regarding Fry and his vaccination, it's about freedom to choose. I'm a pro-choice person, which means I believe people should be able to make up their own minds. What I'm against is vaccine mandates, where the government (or other people) forces or coerces people to get vaccinated.

 

As you get older, it becomes more difficult not to become irritated by other peoples' habits and foibles. Once you start indulging in those irritations, it quickly becomes out of hand and before you know it everything is against you. It takes a strong person to withstand that weakness. Children and pets are much better at ignoring what they don't like, so they can live more happily.

 

 

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35 minutes ago, Truthspoon said:

 

 

The thing about Blacks is that they do seem to be obsessed with tribal violence which translates as gang violence in the cities.


Them wanting to murder white people isn't particularly 'racist' in itself, it's just Black mentality and its constant need to create enemies and attempt to murder them.

 

 

I haven't read such wildly ridiculous generalisations for a long time. It's actually racist what you've written.

 

 

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17 minutes ago, RobSS said:

Regarding Fry and his vaccination, it's about freedom to choose. I'm a pro-choice person, which means I believe people should be able to make up their own minds. What I'm against is vaccine mandates, where the government (or other people) forces or coerces people to get vaccinated.

 

 

I don't care if he had the vaccine. As you say it's his choice. Did he get paid for that photo? Probably

It's the constant promotion of the vaccination and all things Covid to the general public by so-called celebrities

who I'm almost certain are being financially rewarded, which is immoral.

 

 

 

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Just now, Golden Retriever said:

 

I don't care if he had the vaccine. As you say it's his choice. Did he get paid for that photo? Probably

It's the constant promotion of the vaccination and all things Covid to the general public by so-called celebrities

who I'm almost certain are being financially rewarded, which is immoral.

 

 

 

 

I can't comment on supposition and conjecture, but in a free and open society, he's entitled to his personal opinions. I just hope there are enough wise people who will resist. Stephen Fry is very intelligent but wisdom and intelligence don't always go together!

 

So if he has accepted money to sell out his true beliefs, then I would have to agree with you. Innocent until proven guilty, though. It's the cabal that says we are all guilty and so we therefore must prove our innocence. Let's hope we have the wisdom to be on the correct side of this judicial way of seeing things. I'm certainly not on the side of the cabal, and their modus operandi of condemning people without a fair trial.

 

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9 minutes ago, Golden Retriever said:

 

I don't care if he had the vaccine. As you say it's his choice. Did he get paid for that photo? Probably

It's the constant promotion of the vaccination and all things Covid to the general public by so-called celebrities

who I'm almost certain are being financially rewarded, which is immoral.

 

 

 

 

Might not even need to be rewarded. The brainy J man that talks down to us on QI, mocks us in Blackadder with his character that tells people to march into machine gun fire, and with all his woke nonsense on social media, he might just have a dog in the fight.

 

Don't get me started on his role in V For Vendetta either. The movie that bullshits us about a far-right Christian dystopian Britain that persecutes minorities such as Jewish people and Muslims. Absolutely subversive and laughable.

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15 hours ago, Macnamara said:

as for the american mafia they were mostly jewish eg mickey cohen, bugsey seagal, meyer lansky and all the murder inc crew

 

its only hollywood that likes to depict the mafia as all italian but perhaps hollywood is run by the zionists who are trying to conceal that side of their operations....

 

so maybe the american mafia should really be called the 'jewish mafia' and the krays are said to have jewish ancestry

 

If the krays were involved with high level politicians and celebrities and had compromising intel on them that might constitute a security risk and an example of hidden influence

 

It's suggested the Krays worked with the "American Mafia".

 

This is a long article on the "London Taxi Trade site!"

 

Excerpts involving allegations of paedophila including politicians, Joe Meek, the Krays, Brian Epstein (Beatles

manager,  DJS Alan "Fluff" Freeman and Jimmy Savile Jeremy Thorpe, Lord Boothby, Tom Driberg KGB agent etc.

 

Is there a connection here? Most were surely homosexual and the majority Jewish.

 

"Kray biographer, John Pearson, writing in the Independent on Sunday, claimed that the Peer and MP Tom Driberg engaged in gay sex orgies with children and that Boothby had a fondness for boys defacating on him, and the Krays had a compromising photograph of Boothby and his memiors.


Similarly, when Tom Driberg, a Labour MP and KGB agent who wore fishnet stockings, got involved with the Krays, telling them ‘about the houses of rich friends they could burgle in exchange for sexual favours with boys,’ again the government suppressed any police inquiry, as they didn’t want to have to cope with the damaging revelations.


The media were further intimidated and silenced when Boothby and Driberg used the Krays ‘to turn anyone over who had crossed them’. The Police protected the Krays and children continued to be supplied and abused.


The Krays had access to many children’s homes in London and would also have boys delivered to parties at a large flat over a music shop on the Lea Bridge Rd, North East London owned by the former Radio 1 DJ Alan ‘Fluff’ Freeman.


There they would meet with show biz types and DJs including Jimmy Saville, Joe Meeks and on occasion, Beatles manager Brian Epstein. The eastern crime squad knew about the involvement of the Kray brothers and the sex parties known as ” Pink ballets ” with young boys but let them continue. At these parties, young boys, specially brought over from several children’s homes would be plied with drugs and alcohol"

 

http://www.londontaxitrade.co.uk/paedophile-kray-twins/

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2 minutes ago, Golden Retriever said:

 

It's suggested the Krays worked with the "American Mafia".

 

This is a long article on the "London Taxi Driver site!"

 

Excerpts involving allegations of paedophila including politicians, Joe Meek, the Krays, Brian Epstein (Beatles

manager,  DJS David "Fluff" Freeman and Jimmy Savile Jeremy Thorpe, Lord Boothby, Tom Driberg KGB agent etc.

 

Is there a connection here? Most were surely homosexual and the majority Jewish.

 

"Kray biographer, John Pearson, writing in the Independent on Sunday, claimed that the Peer and MP Tom Driberg engaged in gay sex orgies with children and that Boothby had a fondness for boys defacating on him, and the Krays had a compromising photograph of Boothby and his memiors.


Similarly, when Tom Driberg, a Labour MP and KGB agent who wore fishnet stockings, got involved with the Krays, telling them ‘about the houses of rich friends they could burgle in exchange for sexual favours with boys,’ again the government suppressed any police inquiry, as they didn’t want to have to cope with the damaging revelations.


The media were further intimidated and silenced when Boothby and Driberg used the Krays ‘to turn anyone over who had crossed them’. The Police protected the Krays and children continued to be supplied and abused.


The Krays had access to many children’s homes in London and would also have boys delivered to parties at a large flat over a music shop on the Lea Bridge Rd, North East London owned by the former Radio 1 DJ Alan ‘Fluff’ Freeman.


There they would meet with show biz types and DJs including Jimmy Saville, Joe Meeks and on occasion, Beatles manager Brian Epstein. The eastern crime squad knew about the involvement of the Kray brothers and the sex parties known as ” Pink ballets ” with young boys but let them continue. At these parties, young boys, specially brought over from several children’s homes would be plied with drugs and alcohol"

 

http://www.londontaxitrade.co.uk/paedophile-kray-twins/

 

What the Krays did was terrible, but they didn't do it because they were gay, they did it because they were selfish and had no regard for human life.

 

 

 

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1 minute ago, RobSS said:

they were selfish and had no regard for human life.

 

Considering the rumours about them, we can't even be certain that they viewed other groups as human. They might just look at people like beasts of the field, or from one of three Satanic spheres, like some of those supremacists often say when they think we're not listening.

 

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7 minutes ago, RobSS said:

 

What the Krays did was terrible, but they didn't do it because they were gay, they did it because they were selfish and had no regard for human life.

 

 

 

 

Some people are evil, gay or straight.  That's a given.

 

I'm interested in the connections some of the influential homosexual people had and have with politicians, the intelligence services, the media, the Royal Family and the establishment in general. That's why I started the thread.

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Just now, Golden Retriever said:

 

I'm interested in the connections some of the influential homosexual people had and have with politicians, the intelligence services, the media, the Royal Family and the establishment in general. That's why I started the thread.

 

That's the point I don't understand. Why are you interested in their sexuality when evil knows no boundaries, including race or gender?

 

 

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6 hours ago, Golden Retriever said:

Excerpts involving allegations of paedophila including politicians, Joe Meek, the Krays, Brian Epstein (Beatles

manager,  DJS Alan "Fluff" Freeman and Jimmy Savile Jeremy Thorpe, Lord Boothby, Tom Driberg KGB agent etc.

 

Is there a connection here? Most were surely homosexual and the majority Jewish.

 

you can throw into the mix leon brittan who 'lost' the dossier handed to him detailing peadophilia in the corridors of power, freud and janner

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7 hours ago, Truthspoon said:

The thing about Blacks is that they do seem to be obsessed with tribal violence which translates as gang violence in the cities.

 

lets not generalise about all black people as there are many decent black folk but concerning the conspiracy we can clearly see that there is an unholy alliance between marxist-sabbatean-jewish antifa, marxist black lives matter and the oligarchic class who own the big corporations, corporate media, mega banks and big tech etc

 

so what i would ask any of those black people currently being duped into being a part of that is whether or not they think that oligarchic elite is black or not and whether or not they believe that oligarchic elite intends to ever share power with black people?

 

There's just no way that oligarchic class gives a rats ass about regular black folk and they will throw them under the bus once they are done with them because they are not in the power sharing game....they are in the SUPREMACY game

 

Grass roots black people should be teaming up with grass roots white folk....its that simple

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20 hours ago, RobSS said:

I think we've established that anyone can be discriminated against, so let's get back on topic...

 

ok but what are YOU doing to combat anti-white racism? I can give you some unconscious bias training if you like?

 

this guy just did whiteface for a halloween outfit and guess what....no one cares (i don't care either.....i'm only bringing it up to illustrate the existence of a double standard in our society where if the reverse was being done there would be people going mental)

The Weeknd looks UNRECOGNIZABLE as he transforms into Marlon Brando in The Godfather for Halloween

By Deirdre Simonds For Dailymail.com

Published: 13:12 EDT, 1 November 2021 | Updated: 16:42 EDT, 1 November 2021

The Weeknd looked unrecognizable after transforming into Mafia patriarch Don Corleone in The Godfather for Halloween on Sunday evening. 

While channeling screen legend Marlon Brando's most iconic role, the 31-year-old Blinding Lights hitmaker left fans stunned in a black tuxedo, white dress shirt and a bright red rose on his lapel. 

In addition to nailing his costume, he wore a a grey, slicked-back wig and expertly applied old aged makeup to make him look a few decades wiser.

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2 minutes ago, Anti Facts Sir said:

Fuck, that looks amazing but it's CULTURAL APPROPRIATION, INNIT?

 

its cultural appropriation AND whiteface AND disrespecting our festival of halloween....

 

where is the outrage?

 

pretty spectacular costume to be fair

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