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17 minutes ago, Truthspoon said:

 

That's frankly ridiculous.

 

The men of Sodom tried to have sex with the male angels God sent. This is why Sodom was destroyed.

 

Whether the story was real or an allegory it is clear that the Old Testament Bible did not approve of the kind of institutionalised homosexuality which existed in some parts of the ancient world and now fully exists in our world.

 

 

You're right that the men tried to have sex with the angels of God, but that is rape, which is a despicable act of criminality, Over the centuries this has unfairly mutated from being an absolutely proper condemnation of sexual abuse and assault into a general condemnation of same-sex love, but when you look at the crime in detail, it has nothing to do with condemning any loving relationship.

 

 

 

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10 hours ago, RobSS said:

He couldn't have been more specific about where the kingdom of God is located. Being within means that we have to take responsibility for our own reality and our own thoughts and deeds, therefore we do have to become our own heroes and not rely on an external saviour to come and fight our political battles in this world,

 

right......why should a better world land in our lap if we don't deserve it through achieving it by right action?

 

10 hours ago, RobSS said:

and this isn't directed at you personally, mac, but if anyone lives for expressing hatred towards others, then they will have to deal with their own bad karma and fate in their own temporal timeline, what goes round comes round, but anyhow, let's try to get back to the topic of the OP.

 

'expressing' is a little vague especially in a time full of empty, virtue signalling gestures such as 'taking the knee' or wearing ribbons or raising the fist or all kinds of outward displays of pretense towards certain politically correct values

 

But gestures are cheap and mean nothing by themselves. For example britains most prolific (that we know of) rapist jimmy saville used to make gestures towards charity all the time because gestures create a MASK behind which people can hide their true behaviours

 

So 'expressing' things isn't really so important unless you mean what people actually do in their actions

 

As for 'hate' that is another vague term because who defines what 'hate' is? The politically correct woke mob will simply define 'hate' as anything they don't like or which challenges their narratives. For example if someone questions if certain endocrine disrupting chemicals are gender bending people the fake-left will seek to silence them by calling them a 'transphobe' even if they are not afraid or feel any hate towards trans people. In fact such a persons feeling towards afflicted people may be more one of pity and compassion but they will still be demonised because the people masterminding 'wokeness' and who define what is politically correct from one day to the next will want to hide the effects of those chemicals on society and therefore will seek to silence anyone questioning things and they do this through trying to shame them, cancel them and legally persecute them.

 

I am not out there doing harm to anyone but what i am doing is pointing out the harm that others are doing. I am not hating so much as exposing the hate of others

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1 hour ago, Macnamara said:

 

right......why should a better world land in our lap if we don't deserve it through achieving it by right action?

 

But we should aim to make this world better. I've made that clear in previous posts. We have to become our own heroes instead of waiting for a political or spiritual saviour to make our lives better for us. We have to take self responsibility for our thoughts and actions.

 

1 hour ago, Macnamara said:

 

'expressing' is a little vague especially in a time full of empty, virtue signalling gestures such as 'taking the knee' or wearing ribbons or raising the fist or all kinds of outward displays of pretense towards certain politically correct values

 

But gestures are cheap and mean nothing by themselves. For example britains most prolific (that we know of) rapist jimmy saville used to make gestures towards charity all the time because gestures create a MASK behind which people can hide their true behaviours

 

So 'expressing' things isn't really so important unless you mean what people actually do in their actions

 

As for 'hate' that is another vague term because who defines what 'hate' is? The politically correct woke mob will simply define 'hate' as anything they don't like or which challenges their narratives. For example if someone questions if certain endocrine disrupting chemicals are gender bending people the fake-left will seek to silence them by calling them a 'transphobe' even if they are not afraid or feel any hate towards trans people. In fact such a persons feeling towards afflicted people may be more one of pity and compassion but they will still be demonised because the people masterminding 'wokeness' and who define what is politically correct from one day to the next will want to hide the effects of those chemicals on society and therefore will seek to silence anyone questioning things and they do this through trying to shame them, cancel them and legally persecute them.

 

I am not out there doing harm to anyone but what i am doing is pointing out the harm that others are doing. I am not hating so much as exposing the hate of others

 

In my previous reply to you, I wasn't commenting in any way, shape or form that you were expressing hate, which is why I said the comment wasn't directed at you, but on the subject of hate, I do acknowledge that the term can be used divisively for a political agenda, such as political correctness, which I'm not in favour of at all because that's al the methodology of the cabal. The hatred I was referring to was people name calling and general nasty personal insults, which again, you haven't been involved in, in this thread, much to your credit.

 

 

 

 

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3 minutes ago, RobSS said:

Getting back on topic... there is no homosexual "elite", only self-appointed cabal puppets.

 

 

 

 

 

The cabal puppets as you refer to them have many homosexual elite people in their gang.

 

Sir Ian McKellen wouldn't have accepted knighthood had he not come out |  Daily Mail Online

 

 

Sir Ian Mckellen best known for his roles as Gandalf in Lord of the Rings as well as Magneto in X-Men.  Despite his acting success, his true passion lies within advocating for the LGBT community. McKellen says, "I have many regrets about not having come out earlier, but one of them might be that I didn't engage myself in politicking."McKellen has made a deep impact. He is the co-founder of Stonewall, a LGBT rights lobby group in the UK.

 

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51 minutes ago, Golden Retriever said:

 

The cabal puppets as you refer to them have many homosexual elite people in their gang.

 

Sir Ian McKellen wouldn't have accepted knighthood had he not come out |  Daily Mail Online

 

 

Sir Ian Mckellen best known for his roles as Gandalf in Lord of the Rings as well as Magneto in X-Men.  Despite his acting success, his true passion lies within advocating for the LGBT community. McKellen says, "I have many regrets about not having come out earlier, but one of them might be that I didn't engage myself in politicking."McKellen has made a deep impact. He is the co-founder of Stonewall, a LGBT rights lobby group in the UK.

 

http://images.gawker.com/fhv2bpi0q5qideoodha4/original.jpg

 

Ian Mckellen is an elite actor because he's recognised in the theatre world as being an outstanding and exceptional talent, but he's not an elite gay because ordinary gay people don't look up to any hierarchy just because they're gay.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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14 hours ago, RobSS said:

but he's not an elite gay because ordinary gay people don't look up to any hierarchy just because they're gay.

 

 Yes he part of the homosexual elite. It doesn't matter if ordinary gay people look up to him or not

 

Away with your constant disinformation.

 

There are homosexual people withing the cult for sure, but you keep on saying no, no, no

homosexuals are all innocent.

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On 10/10/2021 at 6:58 AM, RobSS said:

 

You're right that the men tried to have sex with the angels of God, but that is rape, which is a despicable act of criminality, Over the centuries this has unfairly mutated from being an absolutely proper condemnation of sexual abuse and assault into a general condemnation of same-sex love, but when you look at the crime in detail, it has nothing to do with condemning any loving relationship.

 

 

 

 

 

Like many people here I don't condemn homosexuality. Many Christians have a different view however...... but I am willing to allow a little leeway....and besides Jesus didn't expressly say anything about homosexuality.....though by all accounts he was celibate as was Saint Paul, which is by far the most difficult path but probably ultimately the best way to escape the dreadful lure of the material world.

 

But the kind of weaponised homosexuality we have in the world is clearly a strategem of the devil......

 

And we are living by the rules of Job. The crazed Jew-bots have appointed themselves both God and the Devil at the same time..... so they tempt society and punish it when it falls to their snares.

 

Some people can't help being gay....due to circumstance often beyond their control,  and maybe they can make it work within decent limits...and let them get on with it....but to make this some kind of political cause and victim club to bludgeon normal society into the dust....well, that is clearly the devil's own stratagem. 

 

I guess like so many things you have to try to live your life without suddenly finding yourself dancing to the devil's tune.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Golden Retriever said:

 

 Yes he part of the homosexual elite. It doesn't matter if ordinary gay people look up to him or not

 

Away with your constant disinformation.

 

I don't agree with all of Mckellen's views and I don't like all his politics, but Ian Mckellen is a fine stage actor and he was fantastic as Gandalf in the "Lord of the Rings" trilogy. I'm not into the cult of celebrity or personality. All that is a delusion. You seem to be doing the same as the woke crowd with their cancel culture. You're the other side of the same coin.

 

A lot of people, and not just homosexuals, accept knighthoods to further their career. Life is full of temptations and everyone succumbs to temptations in one form or another, but the task is to overcome these temptations. It's the reason for my avatar, which is a reference to Buddha's "Fire Sermon":

 

'Everything is burning. What is burning? The eye is burning. Forms are burning. Consciousness at the eye is burning. Contact at the eye is burning. And whatever there is that arises in dependence on contact at the eye -- experienced as pleasure, pain or neither-pleasure-nor-pain -- that too is burning. Burning with what? Burning with the fire of passion, the fire of aversion, the fire of delusion. Burning, I tell you, with birth, ageing and death, with sorrows, lamentations, pains, distresses, and despairs.'

 

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Desire creates want- want creates grasping- grasping creates clinging- and clinging creates sorrow and unhappiness, because everything that exists in this world, as well as all the other heavens is temporal. This is the illusion/maya Buddha spoke of. It is the reason that Buddha, Jesus, Krishna and others keep telling us to take time out of our lives and strive to enter the interior of the false-self, in order to reconnect to the atman/ soul. [...]

 

The main idea that Buddha is driving at with all that he taught, is the correction of our false belief that the physical body is who we really are and that we are something separate from everything else in existence. It is this I, Me, Mine, agenda we all seem to put in the forefront of everything we do in life.

 

https://web.archive.org/web/20131017024416/http://ericrobertnielsen.com/fire-sermon-2/

 

 

if we see others succumbing to things we don't like, it's best act out of love and persuade or even enlighten people with intelligent reasonable argument, rather than resorting to finger pointing and demonising people. Sure, there is a real cabal, but if one creates bugbears out of people like Mckellen the more one manifests them, the more real they'll become real - to you - and you'll become attached to what you manifest -  but that's all just the world of Maya, and it doesn't change things for the better. It only causes strife and entrenches division.

 

1 hour ago, Golden Retriever said:

There are homosexual people withing the cult for sure, but you keep on saying no, no, no

homosexuals are all innocent.

 

If you want to claim that's what I've ever written, prove it, otherwise you're fibbing. You're comment is very disingenuous. I've never said all homosexuals are innocent. I would appreciate it if you retract that comment, thanks.

 

 

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22 minutes ago, Truthspoon said:

 

Like many people here I don't condemn homosexuality. Many Christians have a different view however...... but I am willing to allow a little leeway....and besides Jesus didn't expressly say anything about homosexuality.....though by all accounts he was celibate as was Saint Paul, which is by far the most difficult path but probably ultimately the best way to escape the dreadful lure of the material world.

 

But the kind of weaponised homosexuality we have in the world is clearly a strategem of the devil......

 

And we are living by the rules of Job. The crazed Jew-bots have appointed themselves both God and the Devil at the same time..... so they tempt society and punish it when it falls to their snares.

 

Some people can't help being gay....due to circumstance often beyond their control,  and maybe they can make it work within decent limits...and let them get on with it....but to make this some kind of political cause and victim club to bludgeon normal society into the dust....well, that is clearly the devil's own stratagem. 

 

I guess like so many things you have to try to live your life without suddenly finding yourself dancing to the devil's tune.

 

 

There's nothing in your post I disagree with.

 

Interestingly, Jesus Christ gave John a vision of the throne of God and the assembled 144,000 who had been redeemed from earth. They didn't defile themselves with women:

 

"And they sang a new song before the throne and before the four living creatures and the elders. And no one could learn the song except the 144,000 who had been redeemed from the earth. These are those who did not defile themselves with women, for they remained virgins. They follow the Lamb wherever he goes. They were purchased from among mankind and offered as firstfruits to God and the Lamb." (Revelation 14:4)

 

 

 

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42 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

Meet The Gay Israeli Male Model — One Of The New Faces Of Germany’s AfD ‘Far Right’ Party
https://christiansfortruth.com/meet-the-gay-israeli-male-model-one-of-the-new-faces-of-germanys-afd-far-right-party/

 

From your link:

 

"But he’s not running for a liberal party, or one promoting multiculturalism — [the] former soldier in the Israel Defense Forces, is running on the ticket of AfD, or Alternative for Germany, a right-wing populist party that opposes immigration from Muslim countries and wants Germany to leave the European Union. Its critics call it radical, inherently xenophobic and antisemitic."

 

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I guess the thing to do is formulate some arguments to counter his arguments that you disagree with. That's the only way hearts and minds can be won, otherwise what's the point? So far, you're only giving him free publicity and putting him in the limelight, which is probably what he wants!

 

 

 

 

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34 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

 

I dig the gif.

 

And before any snowflakes get mad, it's an ancient European symbol that predates NatSocs.

 

Well it was introduced by occultist & Golden dawn Sebottendorff, was a quabbalist. Like Karl Haushofer his crypto mate. Is definitely not a Christian symbol.

With symbolism its all intention that counts, I am not one to see it as demonic or evil.

Just when you see it being used, know you are dealing with a decepticon, like this forum always attracts.

Usually Crowlyites.

Im getting Biker Druid vibes.

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Just now, oddsnsods said:

 

Well it was introduced by occultist & Golden dawn Sebottendorff, was a quabbalist. Like Karl Haushofer his crypto mate. Is definitely not a Christian symbol.

With symbolism its all intention that counts, I am not one to see it as demonic or evil.

Just when you see it being used, know you are dealing with a decepticon, like this forum always attracts.

Usually Crowlyites.

Im getting Biker Druid vibes.

 

Well I know the Sonnenrad's not Christian, but I thought it was a variation of a sunwheel that has it's roots in Nordic and Celtic culture, and I don't want to memoryhole my heritage.

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This is on topic also, as elite use sodomy as a ritual to impregnate their victims with dark spirits.

 

This is why so many queers in Elite circles & Etonian culture.

 

And Jews as well, definitely part of their culture. Why so many queer Jews.

 

Im not saying sodomy is bad, but rape is & I believe this is how people take on multi personality's & can be programmed.

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Just now, EnigmaticWorld said:

 

Well I know the Sonnenrad's not Christian, but I thought it was a variation of a sunwheel that has it's roots in Nordic and Celtic culture, and I don't want to memoryhole my heritage.

 

Its debatable what it stands for, but I definitely would say a portal. That is what we are talking about here opening up portals. Like when someone is ritually sodomised..

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This also links in with Ickes shapeshifting theory about vampires like Ted Heath & Saville etc,, Jenner & Britain.

Their connections with royalty..always these vampires are linked with royalty.


Like the Nazis were with Hess & Haushofer.

 

Definitely possession by these people & maybe why their loyalty is so strong.

 

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