The homosexual elite and the velvet mafia

[RobSS]

@Macnamara What's your position on violent protests?

 

 

 

 

[Golden Retriever]

2 hours ago, RobSS said:

@Macnamara What's your position on violent protests?

 

 

 

 

 

 

Off topic. Please stick to topic

[Golden Retriever]

15 hours ago, Coldrum said:

Eric Gill works on Ariel , from the Tempest one of his 'iconic ' statues at BBC Broad casting House London March 1933.

 

It's beyond belief this statue is still allowed outside the BBC

 

Edited October 10, 2021 by Golden Retriever

[RobSS]

Getting back on topic... there is no homosexual "elite", only self-appointed cabal puppets.

 

 

 

 

[Golden Retriever]

3 minutes ago, RobSS said:

Getting back on topic... there is no homosexual "elite", only self-appointed cabal puppets.

 

 

 

 

 

The cabal puppets as you refer to them have many homosexual elite people in their gang.

 

 

 

Sir Ian Mckellen best known for his roles as Gandalf in Lord of the Rings as well as Magneto in X-Men.  Despite his acting success, his true passion lies within advocating for the LGBT community. McKellen says, "I have many regrets about not having come out earlier, but one of them might be that I didn't engage myself in politicking."McKellen has made a deep impact. He is the co-founder of Stonewall, a LGBT rights lobby group in the UK.

 

http://images.gawker.com/fhv2bpi0q5qideoodha4/original.jpg

[RobSS]

51 minutes ago, Golden Retriever said:

 

The cabal puppets as you refer to them have many homosexual elite people in their gang.

 

 

 

Sir Ian Mckellen best known for his roles as Gandalf in Lord of the Rings as well as Magneto in X-Men.  Despite his acting success, his true passion lies within advocating for the LGBT community. McKellen says, "I have many regrets about not having come out earlier, but one of them might be that I didn't engage myself in politicking."McKellen has made a deep impact. He is the co-founder of Stonewall, a LGBT rights lobby group in the UK.

 

http://images.gawker.com/fhv2bpi0q5qideoodha4/original.jpg

 

Ian Mckellen is an elite actor because he's recognised in the theatre world as being an outstanding and exceptional talent, but he's not an elite gay because ordinary gay people don't look up to any hierarchy just because they're gay.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Golden Retriever]

14 hours ago, RobSS said:

but he's not an elite gay because ordinary gay people don't look up to any hierarchy just because they're gay.

 

 Yes he part of the homosexual elite. It doesn't matter if ordinary gay people look up to him or not

 

Away with your constant disinformation.

 

There are homosexual people withing the cult for sure, but you keep on saying no, no, no

homosexuals are all innocent.

[Truthspoon]

On 10/10/2021 at 6:58 AM, RobSS said:

 

You're right that the men tried to have sex with the angels of God, but that is rape, which is a despicable act of criminality, Over the centuries this has unfairly mutated from being an absolutely proper condemnation of sexual abuse and assault into a general condemnation of same-sex love, but when you look at the crime in detail, it has nothing to do with condemning any loving relationship.

 

 

 

 

 

Like many people here I don't condemn homosexuality. Many Christians have a different view however...... but I am willing to allow a little leeway....and besides Jesus didn't expressly say anything about homosexuality.....though by all accounts he was celibate as was Saint Paul, which is by far the most difficult path but probably ultimately the best way to escape the dreadful lure of the material world.

 

But the kind of weaponised homosexuality we have in the world is clearly a strategem of the devil......

 

And we are living by the rules of Job. The crazed Jew-bots have appointed themselves both God and the Devil at the same time..... so they tempt society and punish it when it falls to their snares.

 

Some people can't help being gay....due to circumstance often beyond their control,  and maybe they can make it work within decent limits...and let them get on with it....but to make this some kind of political cause and victim club to bludgeon normal society into the dust....well, that is clearly the devil's own stratagem. 

 

I guess like so many things you have to try to live your life without suddenly finding yourself dancing to the devil's tune.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited October 11, 2021 by Truthspoon

[RobSS]

1 hour ago, Golden Retriever said:

 

 Yes he part of the homosexual elite. It doesn't matter if ordinary gay people look up to him or not

 

Away with your constant disinformation.

 

I don't agree with all of Mckellen's views and I don't like all his politics, but Ian Mckellen is a fine stage actor and he was fantastic as Gandalf in the "Lord of the Rings" trilogy. I'm not into the cult of celebrity or personality. All that is a delusion. You seem to be doing the same as the woke crowd with their cancel culture. You're the other side of the same coin.

 

A lot of people, and not just homosexuals, accept knighthoods to further their career. Life is full of temptations and everyone succumbs to temptations in one form or another, but the task is to overcome these temptations. It's the reason for my avatar, which is a reference to Buddha's "Fire Sermon":

 

'Everything is burning. What is burning? The eye is burning. Forms are burning. Consciousness at the eye is burning. Contact at the eye is burning. And whatever there is that arises in dependence on contact at the eye -- experienced as pleasure, pain or neither-pleasure-nor-pain -- that too is burning. Burning with what? Burning with the fire of passion, the fire of aversion, the fire of delusion. Burning, I tell you, with birth, ageing and death, with sorrows, lamentations, pains, distresses, and despairs.'

 

 

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Desire creates want- want creates grasping- grasping creates clinging- and clinging creates sorrow and unhappiness, because everything that exists in this world, as well as all the other heavens is temporal. This is the illusion/maya Buddha spoke of. It is the reason that Buddha, Jesus, Krishna and others keep telling us to take time out of our lives and strive to enter the interior of the false-self, in order to reconnect to the atman/ soul. [...]

 

The main idea that Buddha is driving at with all that he taught, is the correction of our false belief that the physical body is who we really are and that we are something separate from everything else in existence. It is this I, Me, Mine, agenda we all seem to put in the forefront of everything we do in life.

 

https://web.archive.org/web/20131017024416/http://ericrobertnielsen.com/fire-sermon-2/

 

 

if we see others succumbing to things we don't like, it's best act out of love and persuade or even enlighten people with intelligent reasonable argument, rather than resorting to finger pointing and demonising people. Sure, there is a real cabal, but if one creates bugbears out of people like Mckellen the more one manifests them, the more real they'll become real - to you - and you'll become attached to what you manifest -  but that's all just the world of Maya, and it doesn't change things for the better. It only causes strife and entrenches division.

 

1 hour ago, Golden Retriever said:

There are homosexual people withing the cult for sure, but you keep on saying no, no, no

homosexuals are all innocent.

 

If you want to claim that's what I've ever written, prove it, otherwise you're fibbing. You're comment is very disingenuous. I've never said all homosexuals are innocent. I would appreciate it if you retract that comment, thanks.

 

 

Edited October 11, 2021 by RobSS

[RobSS]

22 minutes ago, Truthspoon said:

 

Like many people here I don't condemn homosexuality. Many Christians have a different view however...... but I am willing to allow a little leeway....and besides Jesus didn't expressly say anything about homosexuality.....though by all accounts he was celibate as was Saint Paul, which is by far the most difficult path but probably ultimately the best way to escape the dreadful lure of the material world.

 

But the kind of weaponised homosexuality we have in the world is clearly a strategem of the devil......

 

And we are living by the rules of Job. The crazed Jew-bots have appointed themselves both God and the Devil at the same time..... so they tempt society and punish it when it falls to their snares.

 

Some people can't help being gay....due to circumstance often beyond their control,  and maybe they can make it work within decent limits...and let them get on with it....but to make this some kind of political cause and victim club to bludgeon normal society into the dust....well, that is clearly the devil's own stratagem. 

 

I guess like so many things you have to try to live your life without suddenly finding yourself dancing to the devil's tune.

 

 

There's nothing in your post I disagree with.

 

Interestingly, Jesus Christ gave John a vision of the throne of God and the assembled 144,000 who had been redeemed from earth. They didn't defile themselves with women:

 

"And they sang a new song before the throne and before the four living creatures and the elders. And no one could learn the song except the 144,000 who had been redeemed from the earth. These are those who did not defile themselves with women, for they remained virgins. They follow the Lamb wherever he goes. They were purchased from among mankind and offered as firstfruits to God and the Lamb." (Revelation 14:4)

 

 

 

[EnigmaticWorld]

Meet The Gay Israeli Male Model — One Of The New Faces Of Germany’s AfD ‘Far Right’ Party
https://christiansfortruth.com/meet-the-gay-israeli-male-model-one-of-the-new-faces-of-germanys-afd-far-right-party/

[RobSS]

42 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

Meet The Gay Israeli Male Model — One Of The New Faces Of Germany’s AfD ‘Far Right’ Party
https://christiansfortruth.com/meet-the-gay-israeli-male-model-one-of-the-new-faces-of-germanys-afd-far-right-party/

 

From your link:

 

"But he’s not running for a liberal party, or one promoting multiculturalism — [the] former soldier in the Israel Defense Forces, is running on the ticket of AfD, or Alternative for Germany, a right-wing populist party that opposes immigration from Muslim countries and wants Germany to leave the European Union. Its critics call it radical, inherently xenophobic and antisemitic."

 

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I guess the thing to do is formulate some arguments to counter his arguments that you disagree with. That's the only way hearts and minds can be won, otherwise what's the point? So far, you're only giving him free publicity and putting him in the limelight, which is probably what he wants!

 

 

 

 

[oddsnsods]

Hello fellow Christians

 

The ring is burning..

 

 

The eye of sore ass...vindaflu scariant.

[EnigmaticWorld]

2 hours ago, RobSS said:

I guess the thing to do is formulate some arguments to counter his arguments that you disagree with.

 

 

My argument is that capitulating to progressives is not conservative.

 

 

 

Edited October 11, 2021 by EnigmaticWorld

[EnigmaticWorld]

On 10/10/2021 at 12:24 PM, oddsnsods said:

 

 

 

I dig the gif.

 

And before any snowflakes get mad, it's an ancient European symbol that predates NatSocs.

[oddsnsods]

34 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

 

I dig the gif.

 

And before any snowflakes get mad, it's an ancient European symbol that predates NatSocs.

 

Well it was introduced by occultist & Golden dawn Sebottendorff, was a quabbalist. Like Karl Haushofer his crypto mate. Is definitely not a Christian symbol.

With symbolism its all intention that counts, I am not one to see it as demonic or evil.

Just when you see it being used, know you are dealing with a decepticon, like this forum always attracts.

Usually Crowlyites.

Im getting Biker Druid vibes.

[EnigmaticWorld]

Just now, oddsnsods said:

 

Well it was introduced by occultist & Golden dawn Sebottendorff, was a quabbalist. Like Karl Haushofer his crypto mate. Is definitely not a Christian symbol.

With symbolism its all intention that counts, I am not one to see it as demonic or evil.

Just when you see it being used, know you are dealing with a decepticon, like this forum always attracts.

Usually Crowlyites.

Im getting Biker Druid vibes.

 

Well I know the Sonnenrad's not Christian, but I thought it was a variation of a sunwheel that has it's roots in Nordic and Celtic culture, and I don't want to memoryhole my heritage.

[oddsnsods]

Just now, EnigmaticWorld said:

 

Well I know the Sonnenrad's not Christian, but I thought it was a variation of a sunwheel that has it's roots in Nordic and Celtic culture, and I don't want to memoryhole my heritage.

 

Its debatable what it stands for, but I definitely would say a portal. That is what we are talking about here opening up portals. Like when someone is ritually sodomised..

[oddsnsods]

This also links in with Ickes shapeshifting theory about vampires like Ted Heath & Saville etc,, Jenner & Britain.

Their connections with royalty..always these vampires are linked with royalty.

Like the Nazis were with Hess & Haushofer.

 

Definitely possession by these people & maybe why their loyalty is so strong.

 

[EnigmaticWorld]

8 minutes ago, oddsnsods said:

 

Its debatable what it stands for, but I definitely would say a portal. That is what we are talking about here opening up portals. Like when someone is ritually sodomised..

 

Forgive my ignorance, Odds, but's what the link between the Sonnenrad or sun wheels with sodomy? I thought it was about the Norse myth in which Fenrir will swallow the sun at the beginning of the Wolf Age.

Edited October 11, 2021 by EnigmaticWorld

[oddsnsods]

1 minute ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

 

Forgive my ignorance, Odds, but's what the link between the Sonnenrad or sun wheels with sodomy? I thought it was about the Norse myth in which Fenrir will swallow the sun at the beginning of the Wolf Age.

 

The link is you open up portals with sodomy & the sun wheel or swastika is a portal. I believe Saturn & the sun are both portals. When you have an eclipse of the sun with the moon is a portal.

So its an occult symbol of a portal.

Portal as in opening to higher or lower dimensions.

Edited October 11, 2021 by oddsnsods

[Macnamara]

On 10/10/2021 at 12:56 PM, RobSS said:

@Macnamara What's your position on violent protests?

 

I think they will invariably be counter productive because all they will do is enable the state to create even more repressive laws

 

Thinking in purely logical terms: no protest movement will create the level of violence needed to overthrow a western government and even if they did then what? There are then 70 million mouths to feed in the UK alone so even if they overturned the applecart they may just cause famine instead

 

This is why i advocate people protest by making peaceful changes in their own lives for example by growing their own food instead of buying corporate junk food and by rejecting smart tech and mainstream media and instead embracing decentralised alternatives in all areas of life which is all legal and peaceful

 

Just because someone is protesting lockdowns it doesn't mean that they are necessarily working for positive change over all. Perhaps they want the beast system that we live in but just don't want to live with the consequences of it; but reality doesn't work that way

 

If people want change then they need to BE the change in their life

Edited October 11, 2021 by Macnamara

[RobSS]

6 hours ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

 

My argument is that capitulating to progressives is not conservative.

 

 

Are they targeting school children? Are they harming anyone? If they are doing that, then I would be giving them a thumbs down and arguing against them. The one on the right looks quite fit, but apart from that, I don't see anything too controversial. Could you be more specific and say what exactly it is that you find disagreeable?

 

 

 

Edited October 12, 2021 by RobSS

[RobSS]

7 hours ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

 

Forgive my ignorance, Odds, but's what the link between the Sonnenrad or sun wheels with sodomy? I thought it was about the Norse myth in which Fenrir will swallow the sun at the beginning of the Wolf Age.

 

I haven't a clue where sodomy comes into all of this either, but the ring of fire without the Sonnenrad in the middle, is for me symbolic of the vagina, the transformative power of love, and being born again.

 

"All these are the beginning of birth pains." (Matthew 24:8)

 

 

 

Edited October 12, 2021 by RobSS

[EnigmaticWorld]

5 hours ago, RobSS said:

Could you be more specific and say what exactly it is that you find disagreeable?

 

Supposed conservatives promoting LGBT. Conservatism and liberalism are becoming synonymous.

 

The mainstream Right is too busy saying the left are the real homophobes, racists, Islamophobes, etc. It's like they're going out of their way to show how tolerant they are. You don't win the culture war by playing by their rules and doing that, and it will radicalize Right-wingers more because they will feel politically homeless. People get angrier when they have no representation.

 

That being said, it doesn't shock me much anymore because the Conservative Party and the Republicans are not conservative anyway.

 

 

Venice is right. It's infiltration and demoralization.

Edited October 12, 2021 by EnigmaticWorld