RobSS Posted January 6, 2022 Author Share Posted January 6, 2022 13 minutes ago, Macnamara said: It's 2030..... all classical music has been banned from the airwaves as 'wrongthink' In order to roll back the 'whitewashing' of musical history music played on the radios or television or sold in the shops has been 'decolonised' of anything created by white people unless the message of the music is deemed 'politically correct' Now orchestras of non white immigrants from every country on the planet, conducted by jewish conductors, play orchestral renditions of gangsta rap classics from the 1990's and 2000's Everyone is very happy about this.....its is assumed....as no one voices any dissent. If they do voice dissent they are sent to the camps for 're-education' to overcome their 'bigotry'. Some unfortunately contract covid 33 while in the camps and are never seen again. They have created a 'culturally enriched' desert and called it 'peace' The mainstream classical music and opera world is prone to the things you're describing, but I don't think it's going to be as bad as you fear. It's not at all bad that things are getting a good shake up. Many very talented female conductors have been marginalised and suppressed by a male dominated profession, so things like that do need to be addressed, and there does need to be a rebalancing, but it has to be done in a way that Oksana Lyniv has highlighted, which is to allow the best talent to come through, regardless of gender or sexual orientation, etc. So, if there's an audition, and the most talented person for the role happens to be transgender, then they should get the opportunity. The same should be the case, whether they be a man, lesbian, gay man, bisexual or disabled person. At the end of the day, it's talent that will count, and classical artists are very good at recognising real talent. If people aren't happy, they will say, and like Oksana Lyniv, they are speaking out, which is why, in that other controversy, English Touring Opera has been forced to apologise. There are also a lot of successful opera companies and orchestras that operate outside the mainstream corporate system, and because a lot of the repertoire deals with things related to the nature of reality and the forces that shape civilisation, a lot of people at the top of the profession are acutely aware of the cabal's agenda, after all, Wagner made it a huge feature of his music dramas... he not only exposed the agenda, he also foresaw exactly what's taking place now. What makes him even more remarkable is that he had the vision to leave the seeds for a spiritual solution, which Roger Scruton alluded to in the video interview he did with Sarah-Jane Leslie. Wagner understood the problems posed by the cabal and his works have been deeply studied by the profession for well over a century and a half. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, RobSS said: it has to be done in a way that Oksana Lyniv has highlighted, which is to allow the best talent to come through, regardless of gender or sexual orientation, etc. that is not how equity works equity works through NOT promoting the most talented people. equity works by promoting the most POLITICALLY CORRECT person into a role and as the most politically correct person for a role is not always going to be the most talented person this inevitably leads to a drop in standards (which is what the sabbatean sabbateurs want for the west) Edited January 6, 2022 by Macnamara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 (edited) 11 minutes ago, RobSS said: Wagner wagner would not get a look in, in your new equitable world he would be deemed too white, too male and too straight and his work too european. These things have no place in the world of political correctness ( a euphemism for anti-white hatred) Edited January 6, 2022 by Macnamara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSS Posted January 6, 2022 Author Share Posted January 6, 2022 Just now, Macnamara said: that is not how equity works equity works through NOT promoting the most talented people. equity works by promoting the most POLITICALLY CORRECT person into a role That's not what Oksana Lyniv, said, though. She said talent should be the determining factor, not political correctness. You're forgetting that classical artists can quickly recognise if real talent is not being allowed to come through, which is why I mentioned English Touring Opera has already apologised for it's attempt at enforcing an enforced discrimination policy. It may be what the Art's Council wants, but if the musician unions and the public don't want it, the Arts Council can't force things through. Unlike commercial pop, the classical arts won't be a push-over! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 Just now, RobSS said: That's not what Oksana Lyniv, said, though. i don't care what anyone else said. Let me tell you about other people. other people mostly talk bullshit I'm telling you how the world actually works Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSS Posted January 6, 2022 Author Share Posted January 6, 2022 4 minutes ago, Macnamara said: wagner would not get a look in, in your new equitable world he would be deemed too white, too male and too straight and his work too european. These things have no place in the world of political correctness ( a euphemism for anti-white hatred) Luckily, the companies that stage the best Wagnerian productions aren't controlled by the cabal or the corporate music industry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSS Posted January 6, 2022 Author Share Posted January 6, 2022 (edited) 1 minute ago, Macnamara said: i don't care what anyone else said. Let me tell you about other people. other people mostly talk bullshit I'm telling you how the world actually works Who cares what the world thinks. Classical artists don't think like the world. Edited January 6, 2022 by RobSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 3 minutes ago, RobSS said: Who cares what the world thinks. Classical artists don't think like the world. the woke agenda will inveagle its way into that aspect of life just as surely as every other it will work through various bodies to subvert things from the inside out and it will ALWAYS pretend that it is doing what it is doing to make the world a better place But that is not the truth. the end game is not a utopia. the end game is the enslavement of the entire human race under a centrally controlled technocratic nightmare; in short enslavement on a giant plantation with nowhere to run to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSS Posted January 6, 2022 Author Share Posted January 6, 2022 Just now, Macnamara said: the woke agenda will inveagle its way into that aspect of life just as surely as every other it will work through various bodies to subvert things from the inside out and it will ALWAYS pretend that it is doing what it is doing to make the world a better place But that is not the truth. the end game is not a utopia. the end game is the enslavement of the entire human race under a centrally controlled technocratic nightmare; in short enslavement on a giant plantation with nowhere to run to You're worrying too much. The woke agenda is not inveigling it's way into the opera. Dominick Haddock, Head of Development, Communications and Sales, was forced to leave English Touring Opera. He carried the can for James Conway, who signed a disastrous letter to 14 orchestral musicians, telling them they were being replaced by ‘more diverse’ new hires. James Conway has since disappeared, and his name and email have been removed from English Touring Opera's website, where Haddock’s job is now also vacant. That's just one example where the woke agenda is not "inveigling". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 3 minutes ago, RobSS said: You're worrying too much. no i know for a fact that i'm not worrying too much. Do you know how i know that? I know it because everything i have been talking about online for over a decade is all coming true It turns out that i was worrying exactly the right amount and that the rest of society were in fact not worrying enough Here's what happens. I tell people like you online what is happening. You then argue with me. Then some time passes and i am proven correct. The people like you never come back (with rare exceptions) and admit they were wrong. Usually they just dissapear (along with my posts that get hacked or the forums get closed down) 3 minutes ago, RobSS said: The woke agenda is not inveigling it's way into the opera. Wrong. As demographics change the pressure will increase. That is the trend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSS Posted January 6, 2022 Author Share Posted January 6, 2022 Just now, Macnamara said: no i know for a fact that i'm not worrying too much. Do you know how i know that? I know it because everything i have been talking about online for over a decade is all coming true It turns out that i was worrying exactly the right amount and that the rest of society were in fact not worrying enough Here's what happens. I tell people like you online what is happening. You then argue with me. Then some time passes and i am proven correct. The people like you never come back (with rare exceptions) and admit they were wrong. Usually they just dissapear (along with my posts that get hacked or the forums get closed down) Wrong. As demographics change the pressure will increase. That is the trend The cabal tried to inject woke-ism into English Touring Opera company but they failed, and they'll keep on failing if they try again. Because you've put so much effort into proving the cabal's agenda, I'm getting the feeling you want the cabal to succeed, or perhaps you've spent too long in an enclosed social media bubble echo chamber, and you're out of touch with what's actually going on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 1 minute ago, RobSS said: The cabal tried to inject woke-ism into English Touring Opera company but they failed, and they'll keep on failing if they try again. Because you've put so much effort into proving the cabal's agenda, I'm getting the feeling you want the cabal to succeed, or perhaps you've spent too long in an enclosed social media bubble echo chamber, and you're out of touch with what's actually going on. we'll see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSS Posted January 6, 2022 Author Share Posted January 6, 2022 2 minutes ago, Macnamara said: we'll see Of course, there is going to be a big operatic drama, but the cabal is doomed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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