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On 9/20/2021 at 4:17 PM, RobSS said:

How an English orchestra conducts ethnic cleansing:

 

set up your own parallel communities, systems and orchestras

 

live outside of the woke politically correct clown-world bubble by simply organising your own events and groups and carrying on as normal

 

If you are kicked out of an orchestra then create your own orchestra for those that have been ejected. If you are blocked from a school or leave a tenured post out of principle then create your own school or university or learning establishment (you have the internet at your disposal get creative)

 

If you are kicked out of healthcare because you did not take the covid jab then team up with others and create your own health care provider

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2 hours ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

Nothing is ever good enough.

 

 

It's not good, but thankfully, not all opera companies and orchestras are like that.

 

What the world's going through at the moment is just liminal.

 

"All these are the beginning of birth pains." (Matthew 24:8)

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, RobSS said:

Not strictly related to the ETO, but still to do with classical music... Richard Strauss over in Germany:

 

https://slippedisc.com/2021/10/munich-is-urged-to-cancel-richard-strauss-due-to-nazi-past/

 

 

 

 

 

Richard Strauss was not a A Grade Nazi - if he was even
I live in a Street named after a Nazi but the street is not renamed 

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39 minutes ago, Moonlight said:

 

Richard Strauss was not a A Grade Nazi - if he was even
I live in a Street named after a Nazi but the street is not renamed 

 

 

You must be in Germany... renaming a street causes many kinds of problems, so people are reluctant to do it, or is there another reason why it hasn't been renamed?

 

There were a lot of people in the arts who weren't A grade Nazi's, but who remained in Germany. Being a party member could be  hugely beneficial for your career and not being a member, a great disadvantage, so influencers could be Nazis without necessarily believing in the ideology. 

 

One of the most famous sopranos of the period, Elisabeth Schwarzkopf, remained in Germany leading up to and during WWII.

 

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elisabeth_Schwarzkopf

 

"There was criticism that Schwarzkopf, not only in the years immediately after the war but also in confrontation with revelations made in the 1980s and 1990s made contradictory statements, including in regard to her membership in the NSDAP (Member No. 7,548,960). At first, she denied this and then with varying explanations defended it. In one version, for example, she claimed that she joined the party only at the insistence of her father who, himself, had earlier lost his position as school principal after forbidding a Nazi program in the school.

 

Further publications discussed her musical performances during the war before Nazi party conferences and for units of the Waffen-SS. Her defenders argue in favor of her claim that she always strictly separated art from politics and that she was a non-political person."

 

 

She continued to have a good post-war career, not only in Germany but all round the world... Schwarzkopf in Strauss's Der Rosenkavalier (1962, purple dress on the right):

 

 

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1 hour ago, Moonlight said:

Im in Munich 🙂

 

one of the most famous was Heinz Rühmann...but he did no Propaganda Movies.

He divorced his Jewish wife when the Nazis came to power for his career.

 

 

Guten Abend,

 

I was in Munich in the mid-1980's and again fairly recently. I found the difference quite dramatic. The city centre in the mid '80's I always recalled as being very beautiful and 'old-world', but after my recent visit, I was a bit shocked to see how much things have changed. Schwabing, which used to be the Bohemian quarter, had also changed... so much gentrification. I still found many things that filled me with wonder, such as the Residenz Palace, which seemed in better condition than ever.

 

Another famous musician with Nazi associations was the conductor, Herbert von Karajan. "During the entire Nazi era he "never hesitated to open his concerts with the Nazi favorite "Horst-Wessel-Lied", but "always maintained he joined strictly for career reasons." [source]

 

 

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I've just been rereading the story about Hildebrand Gurlitt who hoarded a huge number of masterpiece works of art that were looted by the Nazis. I'm sure you know the story but in 2014, the police found about 1,500 modernist masterpieces in the flat of an 60 year-old man who lived in Schwabing - the biggest artistic find in the postwar era:

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/nov/03/nazis-looted-modernist-masterpieces-germany-police

 

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American soldiers are pictured discovering one of Hildebrandt Gurlitt’s enormous art stash during the war. Although they suspected him of dealing in Nazi art, they let him go. Image is in the public domain via TheDailyMail..co.uk/

 

 

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, Firebird said:

 

Of course they are. And they replace it with gangsta music that glorifies rape and murder, and women dressed like hookers.

 

 

Of course because a lot of classical music is uplifting and good for the soul. Can't have that. Give the masses the Maschinenmensch instead!

 

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Will Turandot get grief from the race police at the Met?

 

Always drama in the opera world and plenty more in the comments section!

 

https://slippedisc.com/2021/10/will-turandot-give-the-met-grief-from-the-race-police/

 

Meanwhile, drama in the wings... Airline pilot saves Paris orchestra:

 

https://slippedisc.com/2021/10/air-france-pilot-saves-paris-orchestra/

 

 

 

 

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