RobSS Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 When the Devil tempted Christ in the Wilderness, he showed him ALL the kingdoms of the world, offering to him "all this authority and the glory of them." But there was a condition - Christ first had to perform an act of worship before the Devil. Can we imagine that the present world rulers gain sovereignty of the earth at a lesser price? "For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in high places." - Ephesians 6:12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSS Posted September 21, 2021 Author Share Posted September 21, 2021 In the light of the above post, how any one calling themselves a Christian can believe in Nationalism is beyond me, when Nations owe their allegiance to the Devil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 4 minutes ago, RobSS said: In the light of the above post, how any one calling themselves a Christian can believe in Nationalism is beyond me, when Nations owe their allegiance to the Devil. A nation in the traditional sense is a group of people, not just soil. Are you saying the tribes of the Earth owe their allegiance to the Devil? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSS Posted September 21, 2021 Author Share Posted September 21, 2021 1 minute ago, EnigmaticWorld said: A nation in the traditional sense is a group of people, not just soil. Okay, this is interesting but in order to clarify things, we need more specifics. When you say a nation is "a group of people", how would you define that in more detail? For example, would it include their political system? Would it include their political leader or king or Queen? 1 minute ago, EnigmaticWorld said: Are you saying the tribes of the Earth owe their allegiance to the Devil? "Tribes"... let's first clarify what we mean by "tribes" and "nations". Don't forget that God never wanted the Israelites to be ruled by a king. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSS Posted September 21, 2021 Author Share Posted September 21, 2021 (edited) The following is from a speech by Alex Thompson. He explains very well what went wrong with present ideas about what a nation is. Here's a link to the video: https://www.bitchute.com/video/BR1bWOyft7gi/ The original law, God’s law, was thundered from a mountaintop in the wilderness. Its purpose was to call a nation out of slavery — slavery to human masters and slavery to sin. In those days, that nation, called Israel, was governed by the law of God, administered by judges. They had no other form of government. No king, no parliament, no bureaucrats, no police. They needed none. They were governed by the word of God. But our ancestors were not happy: they looked at other nations, governed by kings and tyrants and said, “We want to be like them. We want a king to judge us.” The Lord said: “They have rejected me, that I should not reign over them.” But, nevertheless, the Lord respected their choice. Yet he did warn them what sort of king they would have: one that would take their sons and daughters into his own service. One that would regulate and regiment the people. One that would steal from the people and hand the proceeds to his own servants. One that would take a proportion of everything they earned and hand it to another. Does any of this sound familiar? But our ancestors did not listen; they said: “Nay; but we will have a king over us; that we also may be like all the nations; and that our king may judge us, and go out before us, and fight our battles.” They rejected rule by God and by God's law, not because this made them free, but because they could not shoulder the responsibility that it places on every man and woman: to made make judgements, decisions and commitments; to stand — alone, if necessary — for the truth and for justice. They rejected God because being ruled by a man, and being told what to do, was easier. They did not want the law of God, a law that they would need to place in their hearts and to defend. Instead, they wanted a ruler to think for them and to fight their battles. Slaves they had been, and slaves they still were in their hearts. Of course, we no longer have a king, as our ancestors wanted. We have gone a stage further. We have politicians. Our Queen Elizabeth sits on her ancient throne, but does not reign. She might hear and see the travails of the people, but she does not speak on our behalf. She keeps the throne in being, nothing else. She refuses to fight our battles. She will not lead. No, we have politicians now. Do you think that is better or worse? A king or queen is born into their position; they might turn out to be capable or incapable, dilettante or accomplished, harsh or gentle, merciful or vindictive. A politician, on the other hand, is selected. Chosen from a vast range of wannabes, based on their abilities. Their ability to lie convincingly and not get caught. Their willingness to steal from the people and to use the proceeds to buy loyalty from those they need. Their ability to prey on people’s fears. Their skills in the manipulation of public opinion. And their ruthlessness with former friends who stand in their way. To these people, selected from the worst, to be the worst, we have handed over power to rule us. And worse still, we call their pronouncements and statutes “laws”. They are not laws, they are the opposite of laws. They are rules for slaves. The law is for free men and women who want to live free and be free in their hearts. Edited September 21, 2021 by RobSS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 31 minutes ago, RobSS said: "Tribes"... let's first clarify what we mean by "tribes" and "nations". Okay: On 5/5/2021 at 11:29 PM, EnigmaticWorld said: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 36 minutes ago, RobSS said: Would it include their political leader or king or Queen? It could do, but not necessarily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSS Posted September 21, 2021 Author Share Posted September 21, 2021 Just now, EnigmaticWorld said: Okay: Thanks for the clarification which I have no qualms with. So there's a difference between a nation as political state and a nation as an ethnic entity. Nationalism is usually understood to be an identification, not just with the nation as an ethnic group but also an identification with the political structure, which is why Nationalists wave flags (all occult symbols from the Pagan Ancient Mystery Religion) and often sing praises to the leader, whether it be the monarch or the political ruler. That is the kind of nationalism that is under the control of the Devil in Christian beliefs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSS Posted September 22, 2021 Author Share Posted September 22, 2021 RobSS said: Would it include their political leader or king or Queen? 20 hours ago, EnigmaticWorld said: It could do, but not necessarily. If one believes in Nationalism, along with the political system of government and monarchy it comes with, then one is believing in the matrix that has one captive. If one believes only in ethnonationalism, without a political system of government and monarchy, then the question arises, what holds and binds that all together? How can it be organised? How can it survive collectively in a world that's ruled by spiritual wickedness in high places? What long-term vision does ethnonationalism have? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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EnigmaticWorld Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 I don't care. I'm Nationalist, cope harder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSS Posted September 23, 2021 Author Share Posted September 23, 2021 (edited) 54 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said: I don't care. I'm Nationalist, cope harder. Still trying to work out what that really means. All sounds very vague and wishy washy airy fairy so far. Edited September 23, 2021 by RobSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truthspoon Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 20 hours ago, RobSS said: NOT REAL. It's just a movie Rob. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSS Posted September 23, 2021 Author Share Posted September 23, 2021 Just now, Truthspoon said: NOT REAL. It's just a movie Rob. Of course it's just a movie, but it asks relevant questions about how people see reality. Is that all you have to say? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truthspoon Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 (edited) 12 minutes ago, RobSS said: Of course it's just a movie, but it asks relevant questions about how people see reality. Is that all you have to say? I think you don't appreciate the importance of my comment. A lot of the stuff you live your life by is just fiction. How about finding out for yourself instead of living life through second hand Hollywood tropes? Edited September 23, 2021 by Truthspoon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSS Posted September 23, 2021 Author Share Posted September 23, 2021 Just now, Truthspoon said: Meeeeeeoooooow. It's obvious it's a movie, but what's your point? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaleP Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 (edited) On 9/20/2021 at 2:23 PM, RobSS said: When the Devil tempted Christ in the Wilderness, he showed him ALL the kingdoms of the world, offering to him "all this authority and the glory of them." But there was a condition - Christ first had to perform an act of worship before the Devil. Can we imagine that the present world rulers gain sovereignty of the earth at a lesser price? "For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in high places." - Ephesians 6:12 Definitely. For power and money they'd bow to any entities which offer it. Rob, I think you've got the best ava in this forum. So COOL, mesmerising. Now, who is really ruling the world? Just watched The Mummy (2017) again. *spoiler alert* It's been a while since I watched it first and wow....I now have a deeper understanding of things..... this is for real. OK, it's somewhat dramatised as it is supposed to be entertainment but gist of it all. An entity coming to life by sucking energy from the living, living becoming zombified..... you know it's all happening as we speak. I don't know if Set is as evil as the movie portrayed since we do need death....an ending. The bit that the mummy directed the plane to land in England albeit a disaster..... I see all these things play out in everyday life. Don't just think it's some fantasy, the spirits, entities, god may not have physical body but they sure can make things happen by entering into people's mind and people will 'act' as if that is their own doing. Just as Set entered into Tom Cruise's body, that can happen also....making a person living god. EDIT: OK, I've just read the rest of the thread. Doh! This is a political & social engineering sub-forum. I might be on another level here. LOL Edited October 13, 2021 by DaleP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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sock muppet Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 This thread needs resurrecting and these links have been around for some time, nine years in fact and the links still work, so without further ado here are those links that maybe points to the answer of the question posed, who rules the world, or possibly a more important question to ask is, HOW is the world ruled, enjoy. Screw u tube version Some important links to some very well put together documents, are they valid?, i have no idea, but will make for some serious bed time reading, could even print it off and make a jigsaw puzzle out of them, would make a nice xmas present for your favourite conspiracy buff to keep them happy and you at the top of the contact list for when the government decides to murder us all. World Government: A synoptic outline Bureau d'études , avril 2004, traduction Stephen Wright https://bureaudetudes.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/worldgovernment2004txt.pdf https://bureaudetudes.org/ Pdf Maps, totally out there stuff https://bureaudetudes.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/wordlgov2005.pdf https://bureaudetudes.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/Worldgov2004nb.pdf https://bureaudetudes.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/worldGov2004gris.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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