HAARPING_On Posted September 27, 2021 Author Share Posted September 27, 2021 Correct! But the very fact they are working in it as we speak suggests that a few years down the line there may well be a solution... but given all the shenanigans going on at the moment I wouldn't put it past the major energy companies or government to pay off the researchers NOT to find a solution. I guess we'll see... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsnotallrightjack Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 (edited) 52 minutes ago, HAARPING_On said: Correct! But the very fact they are working in it as we speak suggests that a few years down the line there may well be a solution... but given all the shenanigans going on at the moment I wouldn't put it past the major energy companies or government to pay off the researchers NOT to find a solution. I guess we'll see... If hydrogen could be safe and cheap you can bet on it that this will not go ahead. They want everyone using either electric radiators or those useless heat pumps. Because both generate astronomically priced bills. The narrative is becoming you must pay very high heating bills to save the planet, and if you are against this you are selfish; you aren't willing to sacrifice your comfort to save the planet from destruction! No matter that Joe Average and his family haven't got £200 a month to spend on a humongous electricity bill. He's so selfish! But carry on flying to luxury resorts, drive around in the latest £91,000 Tesla car rich twits, and keep pointing your fingers at the plebs. Edited September 27, 2021 by itsnotallrightjack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsnotallrightjack Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 20 hours ago, Fluke said: I was thinking this last night mate. It's all part of the web. Here we are. Quote UK electric car inquiries soar during fuel supply crisis Sellers of plug-in vehicles say petrol shortages are driving people to adopt the new technology As petrol stations in parts of the UK started running out of fuel on Friday, business at Martin Miller’s electric car dealership in Guildford, Surrey, started soaring. After what ended up being his company EV Experts busiest day ever, interest does not appear to be dying down. This week the diary is booked up with test drives and the business is low on stock. “People buy electric cars for environmental reasons, for cost-saving reasons and because the technology’s great,” he said. “But Friday was one of those moments where people said, ‘Do you know what, this is a sign that we need to go electric’.” While scenes of chaos play out at petrol stations across the country amid shortages, for many electric vehicle (EV) dealers the fuel crisis has led to an unexpected surge in inquiries and sales. https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/sep/27/uk-electric-car-inquiries-soar-fuel-supply-crisis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddy64 Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 anybody buying an electric car hasn't been paying attention to the dire state of the grid or the lack of new power stations for when every thing is electric. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fifth element Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 Fuel crisis: three more UK energy firms go bust, as government mobilises reserve tanker fleet and army - live Fuel crisis: three more UK energy firms go bust, as government mobilises reserve tanker fleet and army - live (msn.com) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velma Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 In Spain, Wednesday’s El Pais featured the petrol panic as its main front page story. The headline, “Brexit unpredictability exacerbates UK supply crisis” and it accused the UK’s leadership of being unprepared. Unprepared? Then WTF was Theresa May doing shuttling back and forwards to Brussel’s for nigh on three long, tedious fucking years, hammering out a deal? Unpredictable? Her successor, Boris did not foresee or anticipate a supply shortage without migrant labour or foreign drivers and leaving haulage trucks stuck at borders. Are these people thick? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAARPING_On Posted October 1, 2021 Author Share Posted October 1, 2021 Here's the latest from Bloomberg... looks like this is set to rumble on right the way through winter.... https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-09-15/u-k-energy-crisis-deepens-as-fire-knocks-out-a-key-power-cable?fbclid=IwAR1sNipr47GLToR1FC5XrTRF-ZgeIeI_smw3GRmWWEkWN3lK9aHP7jkV_Hk&utm_source=url_link However, here is one of the key takeaway points form this article: Britain is a net importer of power, with France its biggest supplier via connectors that run across the English Channel. As an island we should be surely be aiming at a sustainable level of self sufficiency but as we know, those in power have been steadily eroding that privilege since the end of the second world war... All this ties in with David's latest Dot-Connector warning us of "The Big Squeeze" this winter pushing everyone to electrical energy while reducing the options on other sources of energy. https://davidicke.com/2021/10/01/the-big-squeeze-and-the-big-switch-david-icke-dot-connector-videocast/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incontinentia_Buttux Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 It's always struck me as a little suspicious that when a small energy firm goes bust it's customers are automatically sent to one of the "Big-6" suppliers!!!! So much for the "free market" and consumer choice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsnotallrightjack Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 On 9/28/2021 at 10:37 AM, eddy64 said: anybody buying an electric car hasn't been paying attention to the dire state of the grid or the lack of new power stations for when every thing is electric. Yes, and the folly of making all power electric. It's bound to have outages and what will folk do when no phones work, there is no light, no cookers to cook food, machines in hospitals providing life support? Crazy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaleP Posted May 2, 2022 Share Posted May 2, 2022 So what can we do about this? It's been suggested that we all say NO to price increase. It's all very well saying NO but it's unlikely that the energy companies will listen. We need too take further concerted action, a movement. Is it that we need to get together with our local MP? Any bright idea? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bamboozooka Posted May 2, 2022 Share Posted May 2, 2022 1 hour ago, DaleP said: So what can we do about this? It's been suggested that we all say NO to price increase. It's all very well saying NO but it's unlikely that the energy companies will listen. We need too take further concerted action, a movement. Is it that we need to get together with our local MP? Any bright idea? burn coal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaleP Posted May 2, 2022 Share Posted May 2, 2022 2 minutes ago, bamboozooka said: burn coal Many people don't live in a stand alone house or have a working chimney. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sock muppet Posted May 2, 2022 Share Posted May 2, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, DaleP said: Many people don't live in a stand alone house or have a working chimney. Propane/butane bottle for those with limited space such as in a flat/apartment type setting or perhaps small outside yard, simply cut out the necessary holes so that it can burn solid fuels and also ensure the exhaust gases flow away from the dwelling and place a copper coil somewhere near the fire and pipe it indoors to another coil with fan/gravitational heat exchange, also ensure that the water can expand without air locking, simplezzzzz. Edited May 2, 2022 by sock muppet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaleP Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 You were right @HAARPING_On I read on the front page of a newspaper today that the energy bill will hit.....wait for it........ £4000! this winter. I think people will stop paying it. If utility companies try to recover the debt, they will go to court and you'll agree to pay back what you can monthly which could be like £10 per month. What else can you do? If you don't have it, then you don't have it. I don't know whether to believe this fearmongering though? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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