General Space Thread

[webtrekker]

1 hour ago, TheConsultant said:

The cult is believing "matter" can explain the universe completely, it doesn't, and never will as it falls down as soon as you scratch at the surface. Even just a little bit.

 

The biggest load of bollocks is the inclusion of hypothetical Dark Matter to fudge their model of the Universe.

 

Dark matter is a hypothetical form of matter thought to account for approximately 85% of the matter in the universe.^[1] Dark matter is called "dark" because it does not appear to interact with the electromagnetic field, which means it does not absorb, reflect, or emit electromagnetic radiation (like light) and is, therefore, difficult to detect. Various astrophysical observations – including gravitational effects which cannot be explained by currently accepted theories of gravity unless more matter is present than can be seen – imply dark matter's presence. For this reason, most experts think that dark matter is abundant in the universe and has had a strong influence on its structure and evolution.^[2]

 

^{In other words Einstein is wrong unless you include this ridiculous Dark Matter into his equations.}

 

 

 

Edited August 19, 2022 by webtrekker

[webtrekker]

The whole issue here is that scientists are wrong, and many know they are wrong, but have to keep up the charade or risk being castigated and thrown out of their highly-paid jobs.

 

Peer reviews aren't worth the paper they are printed on, as many of us are finding out with the Covid and Climate scams.

 

 

 

[TheConsultant]

6 minutes ago, webtrekker said:

 

The biggest load of bollocks is the inclusion of hypothetical Dark Matter to fudge their model of the Universe.

 

Dark matter is a hypothetical form of matter thought to account for approximately 85% of the matter in the universe.^[1] Dark matter is called "dark" because it does not appear to interact with the electromagnetic field, which means it does not absorb, reflect, or emit electromagnetic radiation (like light) and is, therefore, difficult to detect. Various astrophysical observations – including gravitational effects which cannot be explained by currently accepted theories of gravity unless more matter is present than can be seen – imply dark matter's presence. For this reason, most experts think that dark matter is abundant in the universe and has had a strong influence on its structure and evolution.^[2]

 

^{In other words Einstein is wrong unless you include this ridiculous Dark Matter into his equations.}

 

 

 

I watched those videos at the EU talk, I do not claim to understand all the maths (or even much of it) but I do understand equations that are not the input or output of anything relating to reality, quite a few of those were based on completely empty space and singular bodies in space, which as we all know is not accurate at all. Glad I watched them thanks for posting.

Dark energy/matter couldn't just be electromagnetism which gives rise to things we do see could it? Thus everything being light is accurate, we just don't see it and are not able to 'interact' with all of it, but we know its there much like the rest of the electromagnetic spectrum is. Thus, the electrical universe becomes holographic and still explains phenomena as described.

Edited August 19, 2022 by TheConsultant

[webtrekker]

The Thunderbolts forum is well worth a visit. Lots of great questions and answers in there and many well-informed members.

 

It's 2 foruns actually, one pre 2020, and another later version:

 

Version 2 - https://www.thunderbolts.info/forum/phpBB3/

Version 3 - https://thunderbolts.info/forum3/phpBB3/index.php

 

The youtube videos are very well produced, but you'll get more facts, figures and references from the forums.

 

BTW, version 2 is an archive:

 

At or around midnight UTC, this Thunderbolts Forum v2.0 will cease taking new members or new posts.

v2.0 will remain online as an archive of posts from 2008 until the end of 2019. It will remain readable and searchable,but will be locked.

At the start of 2020, again at or around midnight UTC, Thunderbolts Forum v3.0 will come online!

 

 

 

Edited August 19, 2022 by webtrekker
spelling: their/there

[Clarissa]

11 hours ago, Arnie said:

 

1. The coffee link is a digital artefact. It is beyond any logic to fake pretend coffee stains. There is zero point to do this and absurdly easy to stain a plastic bag anyway.

2. NASA did not quickly remove that video, he doesn't tell you where it's from anyway.

3. The actual microphone "in the neck" is just artefacts again from digital transmission over distance. This poorly understood claim about CGI makes no sense once again. You can see quite clearly that it is solid and in his hand. It passes in front of a similar colour area of his neck and the definition degrades.

4. Oh then there is the Ralph Wiggins - "Hey look at the poor animation of the Lunar Module" bare assertion. Looks fine to me and to engineers who understand orbital mechanics. Shall I put up the whole sequence where a tiny dot merges into a high definition LM? Like Star Trek opening only realistic.

5. Finally, his "see-through head". This is simply a video merge edit. There is another one where his arm disappears, only the major parts of the background all change noticeably showing the merge edit again. That's what video editors do.

 

Here is a tour video that quite clearly cannot be using CGI or blue screens:

 

They are in space. Space is real. The ISS is real.

The problem is not many people know things like 3D Studio or Maya which is what people just suggest without knowing it. Most people think everything to do with CGI just comes out of photoshop I use 3DS and know Maya but Blender is not my friend. Fuck I hate the UI. 
 

I used to work at ESTEC and I was there when they were building sections of it, so it is true, it really does exist. I watched it leave. 

 

I have to say though I do love it that they used an inverted Square and Compass symbol referencing good old 33 @ 20:24, so they're still trying to use the naff symbology 

[webtrekker]

1 minute ago, Clarissa said:

Blender is not my friend. Fuck I hate the UI. 

 

Haha! I'm right there with you on that! Blender could have been so much more if they'd just bitten the bullet and re-written the UI. I'd rather write a POV script than tear my hair out battling with blenders interface. If only the results weren't so brilliant!

 

I use Keyshot 11 for rendering and mainly Rhino 5 for modelling. We probably have different goals though. Fact is, it's best to use whatever gets the job done.

 

 

[webtrekker]

 

16 minutes ago, Clarissa said:

I have to say though I do love it that they used an inverted Square and Compass symbol referencing good old 33 @ 20:24, so they're still trying to use the naff symbology 

 

And the one to the left of her hand looks like a Freemasonry Tracing Board!

 

 

 

 

Edited August 19, 2022 by webtrekker
screenshot added

[Clarissa]

35 minutes ago, webtrekker said:

 

 

And the one to the left of her hand looks like a Freemasonry Tracing Board!

 

 

 

 

Well they are in Space and that's what Freemasonry is all about, it operates between the gap of Sound and Light which is broken apart. 
 

XXXII is 32 (degree) which is The Dimensional Floor we're all stuck under

 

Check out the sneaky 7 at the top. G=7. Last time I checked Gemini begins with a G as well and EMINI = to 32

 

It's this one, innit?

Edited August 19, 2022 by Clarissa

[Clarissa]

Pleiades is in both tracing boards. 

[webtrekker]

12 minutes ago, Clarissa said:

Pleiades is in both tracing boards. 

 

That's spot on Clarissa! As are your other comments. It's so 'in your face' to prople who are awake.

 

 

 

[Clarissa]

2 minutes ago, webtrekker said:

 

That's spot on Clarissa! As are your other comments. It's so 'in your face' to prople who are awake.

 

 

 

I'm gonna have a check around this Thunderbolts forum, some interesting stuff. I know about the "Electric Universe." I've never seen anything about it written at all from anyone but defo totally know and understand it's there ️

[webtrekker]

23 minutes ago, Clarissa said:

I'm gonna have a check around this Thunderbolts forum, some interesting stuff. I know about the "Electric Universe." I've never seen anything about it written at all from anyone but defo totally know and understand it's there ️

 

While I'm not promoting EU as the definitive theorem of the Universe, I do think it's worth looking into as the currently accepted model is just a joke. The EU model of the Sun is particularly thought provoking.

 

 

 

[Arnie]

2 hours ago, Clarissa said:

I have to say though I do love it that they used an inverted Square and Compass symbol referencing good old 33 @ 20:24, so they're still trying to use the naff symbology 

 

Have to correct you here. That is not the inverted form. And it's a bit of a stretch, without the edges of either poking out and the square not being an actual right angle. Looks like an upside down kite.

Expedition 33 Crew Patch | ISS033-S-001 (Dec. 2011) ---The E… | Flickr

 

Here is the inverted form:

http://www.chasingthearkofgod.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/SC_Cross.png

 

Edited August 19, 2022 by Arnie

[Arnie]

17 minutes ago, webtrekker said:

The EU model of the Sun is particularly thought provoking.

 

Self debunking by the existence of neutrinos.

 

 

[Clarissa]

37 minutes ago, Arnie said:

 

Have to correct you here. That is not the inverted form. And it's a bit of a stretch, without the edges of either poking out and the square not being an actual right angle. Looks like an upside down kite.

Expedition 33 Crew Patch | ISS033-S-001 (Dec. 2011) ---The E… | Flickr

 

Here is the inverted form:

http://www.chasingthearkofgod.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/SC_Cross.png

 

Yeah it is inverted, turned inwards. It's defo inverted now, ie it doesn't work anymore. That's upside down which is different. It's Alpha numeric occult pyramid numerology and is the baseline occult code of squaring the circle, which is Squaring Hydrogen and it's not precise, there's a hole in it. Mathematicians always look for precision as close as maths allow which is why they never found The Occult numerology system which is Imperfect Pi.
 

The Square and Compasses mean 11/7 the compasses being Lambda Λ which = 11 and the G = 7. Kite K = 11 and ITE = 16 which 1+6 =7 also 11/7. I already knew that a long time ago about this because it's calculating the dimensions of the Pyramids Of Giza. The square being the base of the Pyramids. 11/9 is also found in it.  Should get 3D Studio open and demonstrate it. I was waiting for someone to say kite!

 

I gave that argument on the Freemasons Facebook page using my real account (not wussy) along with publishing their dangerous secret token symbology because I know them. They vehemently claim to the outside world they don't worship the Pyramids, when in fact they totally do. I watched them for years and I knew exactly how they ganged up tore apart anyone who dared to question them. They stopped arguing with me very quickly and went to silent, I just kept gauging them until it was finally removed, of course.

Edited August 19, 2022 by Clarissa
Because I'm dumb and keep missing bits.

[Clarissa]

1 hour ago, webtrekker said:

 

While I'm not promoting EU as the definitive theorem of the Universe, I do think it's worth looking into as the currently accepted model is just a joke. The EU model of the Sun is particularly thought provoking.

 

 

 

Electricity is only one aspect of it, to say it only that misses out the rest of it. It can't be detected because Maths can't calculate life and technology can't see into other dimensions and realms and Science will not look at Religion and Freemasonry objectively like what exactly is this stuff and what's it hiding. Electricity is coming from Hydrogen of The Sun and throughout space, technology has broken into those channels. It's all hidden on the other side of things like the Freemasonry. 

 

Heinrich Khunrath also created an interesting image of The Sun, the actual one that the Global Elite were trying to take over... nobody can deny that they had a massive obsession over The Sun. It shows a bald, crucified victim in a hollow sphere, with 2 interesting holes in it and a lot of Hebrew and Latin commands. Don't forget, it's a Star. 
 

Pls send me a link to their model of The Sun. Love to see that

[TheConsultant]

1 hour ago, Arnie said:

 

Self debunking by the existence of neutrinos.

 

Oh dear. Einstein's relativity is wrong, so he's not off to a good start. Black holes don't exist, its counterspace. dark matter is em, as is plasma the most abundant form of "matter". Electric universe is EM, not just electricity. You can separate the two to be just electricity and just magnetism, but ultimately both "individually" still communicate to the other via counterspace, the infinitely small "point" in the plane of inertia of a magnet as seen under a ferrocell. Newtons law of gravitation falls apart as soon as you understand a magnet, a magnet is of "zero" input and yet defies gravity? it also defies E=mc2. Thermodynamics and entropy fall apart there too. Professor Dave, what is the "force" acting on a magnet? He also calls gravity a force and it isn't its an acceleration towards counterspace. I am glad he says gravity and EM are one and the same though. Gravity as we call it exists that is obviously undeniable, gravity is not a downward force, otherwise aussies would be flying off in to space, its an acceleration towards counterspace, centre of the planet where there is 'zero' magnetism/gravity, which is why it works on both hemispheres and anywhere you are latitudinally. All "matter" regardless of charge accelerates towards counterspace dependant on its mass, its essentially pressure mediation in the magnetic field that surrounds the planet, and as such we accelerate toward that, including all "matter" regardless of its charge or being diamagnetic or paramagnetic don't think of it as magnetic attraction or repulsion, its a field, learn about fields and pressure mediation thereof. What is a maglev train? that is the "force" negating another "force". The acceleration of 9.8m/s is negated by an equal but opposite acceleration from beneath. 

Force and motion, inertia and acceleration. Magnetism is the loss of inertia. It is also both a sinkhole and a fountain.
 

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Space-Counterspace-Science-Gravity-Light/dp/0863156703

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Science-Between-Space-Counterspace-Significance/dp/1902636023/ref=d_pd_sim_sccl_1_1/262-9037633-4703220?pd_rd_w=mcTbE&content-id=amzn1.sym.b6c57670-da52-480c-9517-fd61033283cf&pf_rd_p=b6c57670-da52-480c-9517-fd61033283cf&pf_rd_r=NF53VBFM5A752RTV7TVH&pd_rd_wg=OpmV1&pd_rd_r=05dc335b-84b2-4bcd-b666-27658d678e3a&pd_rd_i=1902636023&psc=1

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Causality-Electromagnetic-Induction-Gravitation-Gravitational/dp/0917406230
 

I cannot be bothered to watch more.

Edited August 19, 2022 by TheConsultant

[webtrekker]

1 hour ago, Clarissa said:

Pls send me a link to their model of The Sun. Love to see that

 

I was going to search the EU forums for Electric Sun as it has been years since I first came across it but I couldn't remember my password,so I'm waiting for an email from them. (You need to be logged in to search the forums).

 

Anyhow, this video should provide you with a decent grounding in the Electric Sun theory for the time being ...

 

Hope that helps!

 

 

 

[Clarissa]

@webtrekker Thank you

[Arnie]

6 hours ago, Clarissa said:

Yeah it is inverted, turned inwards. It's defo inverted now, ie it doesn't work anymore. That's upside down which is different.

 

No. It is not inverted and it is not square at any end. It is a kite.

 

6 hours ago, Clarissa said:

The Square and Compasses mean 11/7 the compasses being Lambda Λ which = 11 and the G = 7. Kite K = 11 and ITE = 16 which 1+6 =7 also 11/7. I already knew that a long time ago about this because it's calculating the dimensions of the Pyramids Of Giza. The square being the base of the Pyramids. 11/9 is also found in it.  Should get 3D Studio open and demonstrate it. I was waiting for someone to say kite!

 

Numerology. How did we ever get from a video showing the authenticity of the ISS to that silly nonsense?

[Clarissa]

52 minutes ago, Arnie said:

 

No. It is not inverted and it is not square at any end. It is a kite.

 

 

Numerology. How did we ever get from a video showing the authenticity of the ISS to that silly nonsense?

 

Just because you have no understanding of it doesn't mean that it's nonsense.

 

Oh BTW, the video you posted is real. Enough said.
 

Goodbye.

 

 

Edited August 19, 2022 by Clarissa

[webtrekker]

4 minutes ago, Clarissa said:

 

Just because you have no understanding of it doesn't mean that it's nonsense.

 

Oh BTW, the video you posted is real. Enough said.
 

Goodbye.

 

 

 

I've blocked Arnie and I'm enjoying this thread much more now!

 

 

 

[Clarissa]

13 minutes ago, webtrekker said:

 

I've blocked Arnie and I'm enjoying this thread much more now!

 

 

 

Apparently @EnigmaticWorld started the thread with this. Thought I would make a general thread for anything related to the universe, and also the occult aspects. Feel free to share anything.

 

And? Isn't that so. 

 

He's probably a freemason wandered in, they do from time to time and after studying them for sooooo long in their own FB hole, that is exactly what they say about numerology despite the enormous overt secret obsession with it "Down at 'lodge, like."

[Arnie]

37 minutes ago, Clarissa said:

Just because you have no understanding of it doesn't mean that it's nonsense.

 

I do have understanding of it, which is why I know it's nonsense. You don't exactly need a GCSE for it. Five minutes on one of their websites and you are an expert.

 

37 minutes ago, Clarissa said:

Oh BTW, the video you posted is real. Enough said.

 

Enough for you and I, but not for space and ISS deniers.

 

37 minutes ago, Clarissa said:

Goodbye.

 

Don't be like that.

[Arnie]

23 minutes ago, Clarissa said:

He's probably a freemason wandered in,

 

Our survey said Uhh Uhhhh. Never found the need to roll up my trouser leg and do the silly handshake bit. I think they are all vilified when most of them are harmless old duffers. It's like any organisation, the ones at the top in control usually get up to no good. You think I'm an evil freemason because I think numerology is a load of old guff? What ever reason can you provide to say it has credence?

 

41 minutes ago, webtrekker said:

I've blocked Arnie and I'm enjoying this thread much more now!

 

I don't believe you since everyine is quoting me anyway. But i can tell stories behind your back now. So, this webtrekker bloke, guess what he........

Edited August 19, 2022 by Arnie