Grumpy Owl Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 4 hours ago, Fluke said: Britain has gone anyway. I walk around and see my home town being changed. Faces change. But I'm not supposed to feel upset about it because I'd get called a racist. I don't even dislike these people. It's the globalists at the top that have sabotaged the indigenous population. If it was 2005 of even 2010 we could have preserved what we had and had a half decent country going forward. There I have highlighted the key point where you are exactly correct. But the problem is that the 'indigenous population' have become trained to complain, moan about, and attack the people who have taken advantage of the opportunities befitted to them, rather than do anything about the globalist politicians who have facilitated this. If I was a dentist living in Poland, and had an opportunity to work in Britain as a bricklayer earning twice as much as I would back home, I'd probably welcome that opportunity. If I was a poor goatherder in Sudan, promised a 'better life' with everything handed to me on a plate, I'd probably risk that crossing into Europe. But the truth is that these people are being exploited too. 4 hours ago, Fluke said: Typical troll bait and switch this thread. That's what I'm thinking too, considering the OP has made no further comment on this subject. And I'm sorry to all, but judging from some of the comments here, I wonder whether this is the David Icke Forum, or the Britain First Forum. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bamboozooka Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 (edited) On 9/13/2021 at 9:49 PM, Macnamara said: the thread starter is an apologist for mass immigration who believes biden got 80 million votes im surprised this thread got past even 1 post tbh. back to Raducanu, she got to experience the met gala full of entertainments top satanists https://www.msn.com/en-gb/lifestyle/style/emma-raducanu-rubs-shoulders-with-a-list-celebrities-at-the-met-gala-in-new-york/ar-AAOpEuY Edited September 14, 2021 by bamboozooka Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 18 minutes ago, bamboozooka said: back to Raducanu, she got to experience the met gala full of entertainments top satanists any working person of any skin colour who looks at those people should see that they are completely mental. I look at the photos of that event (where none of those virtue signalling people are wearing masks) and it looks like we are already living in the hunger games clearly whatever that sickness is it affects people of all skin colours 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Grumpy Owl said: If I was a dentist living in Poland, and had an opportunity to work in Britain as a bricklayer earning twice as much as I would back home, I'd probably welcome that opportunity. If I was a poor goatherder in Sudan, promised a 'better life' with everything handed to me on a plate, I'd probably risk that crossing into Europe. i have no problem with polish bricklayers or sudanese goatherders but we are talking about a conspiracy here aren't we? That conspiracy is about creating a world government run by satanists who don't care about countries or cultures. I want a better world. I don't want a world where syrian people are sifting through the wreckage of their bombed out homes or where an iraqi kid picks up unexploded ordinance dropped by western warplanes whilst breathing in depleted uranium dust What is being done to people in various countries is disgusting and that is part of THE conspiracy because the satanists want to control the worlds resources and don't want any independent countries that are energy self-sufficient. I'm against those wars But bombs are only one way in which the NWO remoulds societies. MASS immigration is another method Lets say you want to help some polish bricklayers and some sudanese goatherders.....once you go down that route where does it end? How do you differentiate between who should come into our small island and who shouldn't? Clearly the NWO want anyone and everyone into this small island but where does that end? Do you see that having a happy ending? Nobody wants to talk about these issues. Its much easier to say you are a friend to the world whilst you bury your head in the sand about the problems that are storing up.....but those problems are not going to go away and they are not meant to go away. According to the NWO gameplan they are only supposed to get worse Pointing out that the globalist billionaire class are socially engineering our society through mass immigration does not mean you hate immigrants PERIOD....it means you are being honest about what's going on.....it means you are being real Edited September 14, 2021 by Macnamara 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Macnamara said: i have no problem with polish bricklayers or sudanese goatherders but we are talking about a conspiracy here aren't we? lets talk economics through a conspiracy lens.... lets say you have a shortage of bricklayers: the sensible thing to do is to train up a whole load of your own youngsters because then that generation become stable, taxpaying members of society who will likely buy homes, settle down and raise a generation of responsible children who grow up with an expectation to earn a living when they hit adulthood But if you are in a conspiracy to drive a country down in order to destroy it because you want to subjugate its people under a world government that requires the dissolution of nation states then its better not to train up your youngsters. Instead what you do is you tax the working people more which makes them poorer and then you use that tax money to pay benefits to the youngsters so that they don't have to work. They then become trapped in the 'poverty trap' which means they get more in benefits then they'd get in a low paid job so they are not incentivised to seek work. But as the saying goes: 'the devil makes work for idle hands' so what do those youngsters then do? They turn to drink and drugs which then causes new social ills because they develop bad health which then becomes a bigger burden on the NHS which the conspirators then need more taxpayers money to fund and where will they get that taxmoney? Yup you guessed it from the working people who see more and more of their hard earned pay packet dissapear down a socialist blackhole But to make all this possible you have to replace the youngsters who you don't train up with foreign labour who will then settle in the country because they are making a killing especially as due to the exchange rate of currencies what they earn in pounds is worth far more back in their country of origin which makes it even harder for british workers to compete. They then settle and they bring their families over. This increases the population size which means that now more of the greenbelt needs to be built over with housing and schools and hospitals and roads (which just get busier and busier until its practically impossible get around). Once settled those people then fall into the same poverty trap because of all the benefits and so it goes on. When the unskilled and poor labour of the world hears about all of the benefits available they then come here by any means and they will need housing and schooling and health care and all the rest and where will the money for that come from? You guessed it they will have to raise taxes for those people who actually work Edited September 14, 2021 by Macnamara 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Facts Sir Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 1 hour ago, Macnamara said: lets talk economics through a conspiracy lens.... lets say you have a shortage of bricklayers: the sensible thing to do is to train up a whole load of your own youngsters because then that generation become stable, taxpaying members of society who will likely buy homes, settle down and raise a generation of responsible children who grow up with an expectation to earn a living when they hit adulthood But if you are in a conspiracy to drive a country down in order to destroy it because you want to subjugate its people under a world government that requires the dissolution of nation states then its better not to train up your youngsters. Instead what you do is you tax the working people more which makes them poorer and then you use that tax money to pay benefits to the youngsters so that they don't have to work. They then become trapped in the 'poverty trap' which means they get more in benefits then they'd get in a low paid job so they are not incentivised to seek work. But as the saying goes: 'the devil makes work for idle hands' so what do those youngsters then do? They turn to drink and drugs which then causes new social ills because they develop bad health which then becomes a bigger burden on the NHS which the conspirators then need more taxpayers money to fund and where will they get that taxmoney? Yup you guessed it from the working people who see more and more of their hard earned pay packet dissapear down a socialist blackhole But to make all this possible you have to replace the youngsters who you don't train up with foreign labour who will then settle in the country because they are making a killing especially as due to the exchange rate of currencies what they earn in pounds is worth far more back in their country of origin which makes it even harder for british workers to compete. They then settle and they bring their families over. This increases the population size which means that now more of the greenbelt needs to be built over with housing and schools and hospitals and roads (which just get busier and busier until its practically impossible get around). Once settled those people then fall into the same poverty trap because of all the benefits and so it goes on. When the unskilled and poor labour of the world hears about all of the benefits available they then come here by any means and they will need housing and schooling and health care and all the rest and where will the money for that come from? You guessed it they will have to raise taxes for those people who actually work Yep it's all gone to plan. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr H Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 15 hours ago, Fluke said: Ask yourselves why can't we survive with a static population? We can survive for sure. I think generally speaking we don't need immigration. But I think anyone that genuinely benefits the country should be welcomed in - because it improves the country. Lets just say another Nicola Tesla came along and decided one day he wanted to live and reside in Britain - should we say no? I think the problem is that we let in people who do not benefit or enhance the country. There is also an argument to say, it's not your fault where you are born. It's quite easy for us to say who were lucky enough to be born here - you should stay in your own country. But the west deliberately holds a lot of the world in unnecessary poverty. In some countries it is not possible to thrive as a human for many people, should they if they work hard and want to contribute somewhere else be given a chance if there is capacity for them? I don't know that answer, but I know what the answer would be if I was one of them. Thing is in Britain we don't have a constitution which everyone can get behind when they come here like with the principles behind America. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bamboozooka Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 1 hour ago, Mr H said: Thing is in Britain we don't have a constitution which everyone can get behind when they come here like with the principles behind America. this is why there is a lack of patriotism in britain. we have fake patriotism saluting lizard lizzy but it is a scam. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 (edited) 21 hours ago, Macnamara said: lets talk economics through a conspiracy lens.... i forgot to mention that the increase in workers chasing the same jobs (which will dwindle due to automation) will also drive down wages which means that the people working will be squeezed at both ends by stagnating wages that don't keep track with inflation whilst the government raises their taxes Anyway lets talk culture through the conspiracy lens... if you are a conspirator seeking to enslave everyone under a world government that you will control you need to STANDARDISE them to make them into homogenous global citizens This means you must destroy regional diversity and they do this through 'multiculturalism' which is about destroying the native culture of the host country by watering it down through MASS immigration as all those migrants who move in won't care a damn about keeping up the native heritage or about learning the history of that place. instead it becomes eclipsed and written over and forgotten and lost and that is what we are seeing happening They know exactly what they are doing and who cares about international sport tournaments as they are meaningless if the people in them are not really connected to the people and the place that they represent? They stop being about supporting your local person and instead they become a disconnected and commercialised spectacle and nothing more. They provide no deeper connection TO ANYTHING; its all surface, shallow, instantly forgettable, meaningless crap which we are currently trading for things that are priceless and irriplacable Edited September 15, 2021 by Macnamara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strummer101 Posted September 15, 2021 Author Share Posted September 15, 2021 On 9/14/2021 at 8:37 PM, Grumpy Owl said: And I'm sorry to all, but judging from some of the comments here, I wonder whether this is the David Icke Forum, or the Britain First Forum. The precise point, of my original post. My work here is done. The responses were all too predictable. This is an extreme right-wing echo chamber now. Most contributors are as sharp as a marble. Weather forecast here? Dull, with a chance of drivel. ¡No pasarán! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Strummer101 said: The responses were all too predictable. This is an extreme right-wing echo chamber now. there used to be epic debates where neo-marxists would try and tell us that there was no agenda to flood us with immigrants (gaslighting us) i just don't think they can even try and make that argument anymore so now what do they do? Tell us that 'ok yes you are being flooded with immigrants but hey its a good thing because now one of them just won some tennis competition somewhere abroad'. I'm not sure exactly how that is going to help people here with jobs or paying bills or getting health care or housing or decent education or being able to walk the streets safely but it seems to be the gist of what you are getting at... Besides the neo-marxists have moved on from that debate: now you can find them telling everyone to take the covid jabs. That's the new battleground and MOST OF THE INTERNET and lets face it most of the world offline is their echochamber. Their latest abuse term is 'selfish' Edited September 15, 2021 by Macnamara 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddsnsods Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 I cant believe this was left in the news section. Strummer gets free roam yet again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bamboozooka Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 5 minutes ago, oddsnsods said: I cant believe this was left in the news section. Strummer gets free roam yet again. no, he broke out of the music room assylum again. they need to up their security over there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 (edited) How can it be an extreme right-wing echo chamber when the forum isn't very political? Is it true that simply noticing things make you right-wing? Edited September 15, 2021 by EnigmaticWorld 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Facts Sir Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 Well it gave Mac the chance to very articulately tear apart the pretty lame attempt at baiting. Those were good posts, definitely worth putting up with the rest. The very notion that the achievements of some tennis girl with tenuous links to "Britain" has any value in the ongoing cultural, psychological and economical war going on against what used to be Britain is disingenuous at best. She didn't arrive here dirt poor, and worked her way to the top through the help of the LTA system until one magical day this now-British young woman fulfills her dream. The LTA system produces useless players from wealthy backgrounds, usually. (Elena Baltacha, may she RIP, was a genuine British daughter of immigrants who nearly got to succeed before her body failed her). 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 1 hour ago, Macnamara said: there used to be epic debates where neo-marxists would try and tell us that there was no agenda to flood us with immigrants (gaslighting us) i just don't think they can even try and make that argument anymore so now what do they do? It's socially acceptable to talk about the change in demographics if you say it's a positive thing, but frowned upon if you say it's a negative. It's all very twisted. They will paint people as bigots for having an issue with it, but I wouldn't wish this on other nations either. It's also not just white Brits that will suffer. Everyone will suffer as social cohesion is destroyed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bamboozooka Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 talking of immigrants so is the muslim brotherhood now running the schools? Nadhim Zahawi: Iraqi refugee to education secretary https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-58582399 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Facts Sir Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 2 hours ago, bamboozooka said: talking of immigrants so is the muslim brotherhood now running the schools? Nadhim Zahawi: Iraqi refugee to education secretary https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-58582399 Need to get those kids jabbed and the refugee kids enrolled in the system. A real BOGOF appointment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itsjaybigjay Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 On 9/14/2021 at 4:00 PM, Fluke said: Why do we need any immigrants at all at this point? The only way this could ever be fixed is if you had a government with a majority vote perhaps that said we are full, any immigrants that are crossing the channel illegally will be escorted away. If any other country sends them here you want them and say they will be taken out by a missile. If they call bluff blow the first one up to set an example. Yes even if it has kids on. That would be a nation that wants to survive. lol I postulated about popping a few boats on a thread a few months back and had all the libtards on here going off on one and you get away with a missile strike on the buggers What would be so wrong with rounding them up as they land sticking them on coaches down to Dover and straight onto the Eurostar, could have them back in France in about an hour of them landing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddsnsods Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 Morons moaning about traffic or HS2, yet have no problem with a thousand a day, coming in ready to replace them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Facts Sir Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 News headlines banging on about Raducanu "coming home to Bromley" as if she's some sort of working-class everygirl made good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Anti Facts Sir said: News headlines banging on about Raducanu "coming home to Bromley" as if she's some sort of working-class everygirl made good. its getting stamped on letters i'm getting letters with messages stamped on them celebrating this ladies win of a tennis tournament what does a womens tennis competition have to do with the business of delivering letters? I don't finish my work and then stamp a completely idiosyncratic message on it about something unrelated that i think is important and then stretch out my hand to be paid. I'm not paying them for that. I'm paying them to deliver my letter end of story Its just relentless woke PRESSURE coming from BIG BUSINESS.....its coming from the corporate oligarchs and royals and all the people who have been screwing over the common folk for centuries Edited September 16, 2021 by Macnamara 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 22 hours ago, Anti Facts Sir said: Well it gave Mac the chance to very articulately tear apart the pretty lame attempt at baiting. Those were good posts, definitely worth putting up with the rest. it doesn't matter if you present true and thought out responses to a neo-marxist illustrating how various things are damaging to british societal cohesion because that is all GOOD to a neo-marxist. That stuff is all grist for their mill They WANT britain to fail. They want what they call 'capitalism' to fail but we don't have capitalism we have cartelism where corporate monopolies control the economy and governments through central banks and secret societies The marxists aren't working for those corporate cartels to fail. They are working for the PEOPLE and their freedom to fail so that a new more authoritarian society can emerge in the form of a technocracy that is run by the very same people who are behind the current corporate cartelism neo marxists are the footsoldiers of the oligarchic class and those that don't realise this are just dupes Marxists want crisis through any means. They want economic crisis, they want societal crisis, they want cultural crisis, they want health crisis so that spiritually broken people will allow themselves to be remoulded into technocratic slaves Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Facts Sir Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 And this is where we are. (I'll look out for these Radacanu-embossed letters....what an absolute joke). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 7 minutes ago, Anti Facts Sir said: And this is where we are. (I'll look out for these Radacanu-embossed letters....what an absolute joke). it would be like me finishing my work and then stamping ''david icke is kicking new world order butt'' on it my client would say 'that's all fine but what's this message about david icke all about?' there is an ENTITLEMENT amongst the corporate wokesters that they feel entitled to impose their wokeness on us 24/7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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