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Let's look at two things - sex and procreation. Why does a snake's mouth look like a women's vagina? Why is over 80% or more on the interwebz stuff about sex? Why is porn so engraved in our society that almost everyone watches is and thinks it's normal? Sex seems like a huge distraction and the very act of sex is so alluring that we keep come back for more, like crackheads. Sex and desire go hand in hand. As long as a person has desire he will be reincarnated again. Procreations just traps more of the divine sparks in the world. Gnostics and Essenes believed that the Devil (Demiurge) created the material world and that he also made sex to entrap ethereal souls in the prison of the flesh. This planet is nothing more than a huge energy farm for the malevolent entities. How convenient that a demented archontic wannabe God Jehova said that we should be fruitful and multiply and increase upon Earth. Think about it for a second. If procreation was something good it wouldn't be promoted and glorified, it would be demonized like hemp for example.

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14 minutes ago, Wamrage said:

Porn mimics the real thing, it's archontic. I won't go into it as it is not the topic. Speaking of the topic, you went completely off topic with mentioning it.

 

 

Well I'm sorry, that wasn't my intention, it's just that I didn't agree that porn was about procreation, but you might have a point about mimicry.

 

Not that I believe that procreation is bad though, but I'm willing to listen to your views on the subject regardless.

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The Truth Sets Us Free. INFINITE LOVE IS THE ONLY TRUTH.

ps; we're not really "in a body"...

 

just don't get too attached/identified with this fraudulent world being sold as "reality". EgoMatrix--World of Lies.

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On 9/8/2021 at 8:54 PM, Wamrage said:

Let's look at two things - sex and procreation. Why does a snake's mouth look like a women's vagina? Why is over 80% or more on the interwebz stuff about sex? Why is porn so engraved in our society that almost everyone watches is and thinks it's normal? Sex seems like a huge distraction and the very act of sex is so alluring that we keep come back for more, like crackheads. Sex and desire go hand in hand. As long as a person has desire he will be reincarnated again. Procreations just traps more of the divine sparks in the world. Gnostics and Essenes believed that the Devil (Demiurge) created the material world and that he also made sex to entrap ethereal souls in the prison of the flesh. This planet is nothing more than a huge energy farm for the malevolent entities. How convenient that a demented archontic wannabe God Jehova said that we should be fruitful and multiply and increase upon Earth. Think about it for a second. If procreation was something good it wouldn't be promoted and glorified, it would be demonized like hemp for example.

 

If you search for "thejonathankleck" on bitchute or odyssey,he shows images of how the Vatican(which means divining snake) is built as a Serpent and the Altar of St.Peter is of a Sheep/Bug/Male and Female Sex Organs.

 

Even the Virgin Mary is an inverted Sheep,dead with it's tongue sticking out.

 

The Catholic Church is in reality the Church of Satan,a sex death pedophilia cult,hidden in plain sight.

 

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22 hours ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

 

Well I'm sorry, that wasn't my intention, it's just that I didn't agree that porn was about procreation, but you might have a point about mimicry.

 

Not that I believe that procreation is bad though, but I'm willing to listen to your views on the subject regardless.

Cathars used certain plants and herbs to avoid procreation. This knowledge got lost through time.

Condoms didn't exist at that time, so they were trying to avoid it at all cost. They also abstained from meat, dairy and eggs because animal foods are begotten by copulation.  Two things that seem crucial to the wheel of samsara are murder and sex. If you kill another human being, you are getting reincarnated. ·From the Nag Hammadi scriptures -  Marriage is defilement; sexual intercourse, called the "intercourse of Darkness," will be destroyed at the end of time (Gospel of Philip, 82:4). If you look at the Gnostics, Cathars, Bogomils, Manichaens, Essenes, Mandaens, Paulicians and many other, the thing that they all had in common was ascetism and avoiding procreation. They were persecuted and destroyed the most. Information control has always been the #1 priority for the ruling elite. Also if you look at a verse from Bhagavad Gita it speaks volume  - From the highest planet in the material world down to the lowest, all are places of misery wherein repeated birth and death take place. But one who attains to My abode, O son of Kunti, never takes birth again. Chapter 8, text 16.

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2 hours ago, Wamrage said:

Cathars used certain plants and herbs to avoid procreation. This knowledge got lost through time.

Condoms didn't exist at that time, so they were trying to avoid it at all cost. They also abstained from meat, dairy and eggs because animal foods are begotten by copulation.  Two things that seem crucial to the wheel of samsara are murder and sex. If you kill another human being, you are getting reincarnated. ·From the Nag Hammadi scriptures -  Marriage is defilement; sexual intercourse, called the "intercourse of Darkness," will be destroyed at the end of time (Gospel of Philip, 82:4). If you look at the Gnostics, Cathars, Bogomils, Manichaens, Essenes, Mandaens, Paulicians and many other, the thing that they all had in common was ascetism and avoiding procreation. They were persecuted and destroyed the most. Information control has always been the #1 priority for the ruling elite. Also if you look at a verse from Bhagavad Gita it speaks volume  - From the highest planet in the material world down to the lowest, all are places of misery wherein repeated birth and death take place. But one who attains to My abode, O son of Kunti, never takes birth again. Chapter 8, text 16.

Yeah,,, but,,, ,...... it is The Truth that sets us free.  Nothing else can or will.

 

The ego works overtime fucking with our minds, attempting to set us up to continue to identify with and sustain it....it can and will suggest any and all ideas that are dead-ends/ illusion-based bullshit.

One cannot "escape" from a True condition that is unchangeable(Reality). This world is a fraud in totality. This is the great deception. The "past" is nothing, meaningless, that's how and why the Cathars did the absolving of "sins' right before death, but one need not even do that, the world is meaningless, the ego-self is a fiction---where does "karma"(or "evolution/learning") enter into what amounts to a brief entertaining of fantasy/ dream of untruth? It's a ploy of the ego. THE TRUTH SETS US FREE--- and It may not be how or what one might expect.

This isn't real. It has no consequence or effect in Reality---where does "reincarnation/karma" or false-judgements condemning one to hell come from? It's a con by the ego. Any disconnection/interuption of conscious contact with GOD-THE GENUINE ONE  is "hell". Different levels and layers don't change what it is, only makes the deception more difficult to discern.

The Truth erases "karma". The TRUTH Rules Above All. There is no "other" Authority. IT WILL NEVER JUDGE AGAINST THE REAL AND THE TRUE.

 

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On 9/10/2021 at 2:41 PM, Foggy Dewhurst said:

 

If you search for "thejonathankleck" on bitchute or odyssey,he shows images of how the Vatican(which means divining snake) is built as a Serpent and the Altar of St.Peter is of a Sheep/Bug/Male and Female Sex Organs.

 

Even the Virgin Mary is an inverted Sheep,dead with it's tongue sticking out.

 

The Catholic Church is in reality the Church of Satan,a sex death pedophilia cult,hidden in plain sight.

 

Yeah I've seen this too. He suggests that the Vatican building is of a snake, which I agree with and it's tongue even spreads to across the road. So he suggests that this is a host body system run by the god of the pit, a serpent, who is the king of the insects as spoken about in the Bible. 

 

The alter as you allude to is of the female sex organs and the throne is of the male sex organs. The seaman is of angels being born into this system. It's an interesting take that's for sure. What do you think of the rest of his stuff? 👍

 

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9 hours ago, Mr H said:

If we and other species didn't have sex, there would be no life. So yes I guess that would mean avoiding reincarnation but is no life really what is God's plan? 

Other species don't have a high level of discernment so you can't really count them. This world, the physical world is a prison for the spirit. The main reason why children cry up until ages of 4, 5 or more are simply because it takes a lot of conditioning for the spirit to accept it's descendance from the higher realms to this material realm. Aging/Death is another thing that ties into all of this. If death was really something natural, we wouln't find it so incredibly hard to process. These things become more obvious as a person dives deeper. In fact everything seems to be so obvious and sticking out like a pigsty in Iran.

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https://www.truthspoon.com/p/the-search-for-beauty-is.html

 

What is love?
 
Love is a form of attention. Love takes the attention from ones own personal inner problems and gives one something to focus on outside of the self.
 
But what happens when attention goes outward? The material world expands and grows as the all knowing inner being reaches out into the void.
 
The reality is short lived because true love requires timeless understanding and a still mind. Within a human relationship these things are unobtainable in this world which by definition is constantly in flux and full of a thousand distractions. There are financial pressures, communication failures, misunderstandings. It is easier to find love in yourself and keep it there than it is to search for it in someone by reaching across the void to another consciousness. 
 
Why reach across the void at all?
 
So we all reach out of ourselves because we feel dissatisfied with our own inner beings, and we seek to expand our inner light into the darkened void. The consequence of this is human reproduction, which is actually a form of entropy, or widening chaos. Materially, having children is natural, from a spiritual perspective however it is not.
 
Reproduction is the consequence of our failure to find God, it is a consequence of a spiritual hunger for completeness which we think the material world can solve for us. But it cannot, it can only offer the temporary excitement of desire followed by a slow loss of the self at the expense of assuming a role as head of a family.
 
We fracture and divide ourselves. And so from the original harmony we have ‘difference’, we have tribalism, peoples, nations, conflicts, wars which are inevitable when different universes occupy the same world. Reproduction is shattering the hologram into a thousand more holograms. Marriages are not easy and often fail because eventually we realise that we can never really find love outside of ourselves, except as a kind of dozing domesticity, but if we really look into ourselves we will realise that what we were looking for was inside us all along.
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On 9/16/2021 at 3:26 PM, Truthspoon said:

https://www.truthspoon.com/p/the-search-for-beauty-is.html

 

 
Reproduction is the consequence of our failure to find God, it is a consequence of a spiritual hunger for completeness which we think the material world can solve for us. But it cannot, it can only offer the temporary excitement of desire followed by a slow loss of the self at the expense of assuming a role as head of a family.
 
We fracture and divide ourselves. And so from the original harmony we have ‘difference’, we have tribalism, peoples, nations, conflicts, wars which are inevitable when different universes occupy the same world. Reproduction is shattering the hologram into a thousand more holograms. Marriages are not easy and often fail because eventually we realise that we can never really find love outside of ourselves, except as a kind of dozing domesticity, but if we really look into ourselves we will realise that what we were looking for was inside us all along.

Thanks for this 🙌

 

 

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