Could the world handle a book revealing the spider(s)?

[CarpeDiem]

There seems to me to be an increasing number of people asking David who is who within the spiders web. Who knows what? What level are they? Some ask who the spider(s) are?

 

My personal opinion is (and that is all it is), is that maybe now (in the current situation we find ourselves in) is the time for David to write a book revealing what his decades upon decades of research has turned up about who or rather what the spider(s) are. Where do they come from? How does the spider(s) operate? For example, are they known and seen by the inner, inner core as they appear or do they shape shift into something the inner, inner cores understand? Do the inner, inner cores actually know who or what they answer to?

 

I wonder if people could handle the truth at this level? It would be a fascinating read that's for sure to see who or what is at the centre of the web and who knows what and their part and position at each strand of the web.

 

I just think now is the time for this information to be put out there to allow us to face the challenge of the next couple of years with the full knowledge of what we are dealing with. More importantly the information could be used one day in the future (maybe for future generations) to hold those responsible to account.

[Firebird]

Isn't the spider the system itself?

 

But Icke has also talked about interdimensional entities able to control humans and he has linked this with the demons of various religions.

[Grumpy Owl]

2 hours ago, CarpeDiem said:

My personal opinion is (and that is all it is), is that maybe now (in the current situation we find ourselves in) is the time for David to write a book revealing what his decades upon decades of research has turned up about who or rather what the spider(s) are. Where do they come from? How does the spider(s) operate? For example, are they known and seen by the inner, inner core as they appear or do they shape shift into something the inner, inner cores understand? Do the inner, inner cores actually know who or what they answer to?

 

Have you read any of David Icke's books?

[novymir]

No.

They're enjoying their delusions too much to be bothered with Truth. The Truth is a real buzz-killer...(like "...clam-up! you're ruining my high...").

It's called "disillusionment"...the illusions they have about this 'world", "self', and "GOD". They actually believe their illusions have value. They actually believe The Real is fearful.

That's some serious self-deception.

Edited August 27, 2021 by novymir
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[ChristopherB]

I have read a lot of David Icke's books, and listened to many interviews, though by no means all - so I will give an answer to 'Who the spiders are', as well as I can.

 

First of all, I think it is a great question, and only someone who has gone into the subject of David Icke's research, to some degree, will pick up on. 

 

I think the answer will touch upon the concept of 'reality' which, I understand is David Icke's main interest above and beyond global conspiracy.

 

The basic answer, I would say is that David Icke simply doesn't know!! Sounds strange, but we are talking about the spider rather than the shadow organisations around it, and then the organisations coming out of that which will hit the cusp of public knowledge. But also, I would say that David Icke didn't know what *exactly* happened on 9/11! But the amazing thing is that that is not so important. He demolishes the official story to such an extent that he will have a fairly good idea of what happened on 9/11, and more importantly how the thing was controlled by the few people at the top, and thus have a strong handle on how the few can control the many. This is a big message that came to me from his book, 'The Trigger'. And of course, if such a worldwide conspiracy has been carried out before, it is certainly the case with the Covid-19 scam.

 

Now, back to the spider. What it is, or more accurately what I see David Icke believes it is (and this will be a fairly well-founded opinion coming from him) is a distorted consciousness (ie: one very much disconnected from the absolute oneness of everything) which is either the matrix itself, or that which created the matrix (I don't know which). The matrix being a computer simulated hologram which is probably a bad copy of another computer simulated hologram that itself is probably being based on oneness reality (which doesn't vibrate). The differences between the two computer simulations (bad copy Vs good copy) could be summed up by the example of nature's struggle for existence. For example, in the bad copy, animals have to eat each other in order to survive. Many creatures have the right colours and markings to trap others (David Icke in 'Infinite Love is the only truth... everything else is illusion' says this 'evolution' is actually the matrix program and nothing to do with Charles Darwin). We see this in nature programmes. In the good copy, there will not be this struggle for existence and something like breathing would be enough to survive as air contains energy whilst here in the bad copy, we get energy from the gross body of things. Now this bad copy will be a food source (fear generated by the struggle for existence) for the distorted consciousness that feeds of it - that is why it has created the matrix (or indeed is it the matrix itself?). Though perhaps the interspace (space between dimensions where these reptiles appear to live/exist) is just stuff contained within the matrix itself and not the source of the matrix.

 

The next stage from the interspaces, would be the channelling from that realm down to the earthly one. I remember David Icke said in his early books about dark magicians doing this, but here we will have reptilian/human hybrids = royal lines - families - illuminati and the concept of pure blood lines and the pyramid system.

 

Now, as far as I see, David, like 9/11, does not know exactly, but can give such a good educated hunch as to deem of great substance his research work for the last 30 years on this, when he talks about how it works and therefore provide some insight as to how we can get out of this.

 

For instance he was saying in 'Infinite love...' that the matrix works on things that vibrate and thus polarization/ playing one side off against the other is how they generate their food source, but if we transcend that and take both sides and calm that vibration down then their food dries up. This is why David doesn't want people to become radical about this and why his focus in on helping people just coming out of this illusion rather than just banging one's head against the brick wall trying to convince someone fast asleep. So his method seems to play in with his philosophy.

 

I have rambled a bit, but hope I have made myself reasonably clear. There is a lot I don't understand too well especially bits about trying to communicate with a quiet voice within (David Icke says this at the end of the book, 'The Answer'), but I do get a strong sense that connection with reality (what I call 'trying to become sane') is the positive way forward in this, and very recently, David Icke has been saying that he will be writing more about the concept of reality especially as he believes many deaths will be coming from the vaccine itself and people will need this on whichever side (vaccinated or non-vaccinated), they are. I thin in the last two weeks, he went up to Derby to film a 13-part series on this very concept 'reality'.

 

I don't know these guys well at all, but I get my information from, as I said at the start, his books and the interviews he does and I am picking up some stuff which is useful to me (trying to become sane), and I hope it is of use to anyone else.

[CarpeDiem]

On 8/27/2021 at 8:44 PM, Grumpy Owl said:

 

Have you read any of David Icke's books?

No I cannot read

[CarpeDiem]

On 8/28/2021 at 6:54 AM, ChristopherB said:

I have read a lot of David Icke's books, and listened to many interviews, though by no means all - so I will give an answer to 'Who the spiders are', as well as I can.

 

First of all, I think it is a great question, and only someone who has gone into the subject of David Icke's research, to some degree, will pick up on. 

 

I think the answer will touch upon the concept of 'reality' which, I understand is David Icke's main interest above and beyond global conspiracy.

 

The basic answer, I would say is that David Icke simply doesn't know!! Sounds strange, but we are talking about the spider rather than the shadow organisations around it, and then the organisations coming out of that which will hit the cusp of public knowledge. But also, I would say that David Icke didn't know what *exactly* happened on 9/11! But the amazing thing is that that is not so important. He demolishes the official story to such an extent that he will have a fairly good idea of what happened on 9/11, and more importantly how the thing was controlled by the few people at the top, and thus have a strong handle on how the few can control the many. This is a big message that came to me from his book, 'The Trigger'. And of course, if such a worldwide conspiracy has been carried out before, it is certainly the case with the Covid-19 scam.

 

Now, back to the spider. What it is, or more accurately what I see David Icke believes it is (and this will be a fairly well-founded opinion coming from him) is a distorted consciousness (ie: one very much disconnected from the absolute oneness of everything) which is either the matrix itself, or that which created the matrix (I don't know which). The matrix being a computer simulated hologram which is probably a bad copy of another computer simulated hologram that itself is probably being based on oneness reality (which doesn't vibrate). The differences between the two computer simulations (bad copy Vs good copy) could be summed up by the example of nature's struggle for existence. For example, in the bad copy, animals have to eat each other in order to survive. Many creatures have the right colours and markings to trap others (David Icke in 'Infinite Love is the only truth... everything else is illusion' says this 'evolution' is actually the matrix program and nothing to do with Charles Darwin). We see this in nature programmes. In the good copy, there will not be this struggle for existence and something like breathing would be enough to survive as air contains energy whilst here in the bad copy, we get energy from the gross body of things. Now this bad copy will be a food source (fear generated by the struggle for existence) for the distorted consciousness that feeds of it - that is why it has created the matrix (or indeed is it the matrix itself?). Though perhaps the interspace (space between dimensions where these reptiles appear to live/exist) is just stuff contained within the matrix itself and not the source of the matrix.

 

The next stage from the interspaces, would be the channelling from that realm down to the earthly one. I remember David Icke said in his early books about dark magicians doing this, but here we will have reptilian/human hybrids = royal lines - families - illuminati and the concept of pure blood lines and the pyramid system.

 

Now, as far as I see, David, like 9/11, does not know exactly, but can give such a good educated hunch as to deem of great substance his research work for the last 30 years on this, when he talks about how it works and therefore provide some insight as to how we can get out of this.

 

For instance he was saying in 'Infinite love...' that the matrix works on things that vibrate and thus polarization/ playing one side off against the other is how they generate their food source, but if we transcend that and take both sides and calm that vibration down then their food dries up. This is why David doesn't want people to become radical about this and why his focus in on helping people just coming out of this illusion rather than just banging one's head against the brick wall trying to convince someone fast asleep. So his method seems to play in with his philosophy.

 

I have rambled a bit, but hope I have made myself reasonably clear. There is a lot I don't understand too well especially bits about trying to communicate with a quiet voice within (David Icke says this at the end of the book, 'The Answer'), but I do get a strong sense that connection with reality (what I call 'trying to become sane') is the positive way forward in this, and very recently, David Icke has been saying that he will be writing more about the concept of reality especially as he believes many deaths will be coming from the vaccine itself and people will need this on whichever side (vaccinated or non-vaccinated), they are. I thin in the last two weeks, he went up to Derby to film a 13-part series on this very concept 'reality'.

 

I don't know these guys well at all, but I get my information from, as I said at the start, his books and the interviews he does and I am picking up some stuff which is useful to me (trying to become sane), and I hope it is of use to anyone else.

Interesting read. Thanks.

[blowonthepie]

 

Lol

[Pierre-Luc]

On 8/27/2021 at 4:43 PM, novymir said:

No.

They're enjoying their delusions too much to be bothered with Truth. The Truth is a real buzz-killer...(like "...clam-up! you're ruining my high...").

It's called "disillusionment"...the illusions they have about this 'world", "self', and "GOD". They actually believe their illusions have value. They actually believe The Real is fearful.

That's some serious self-deception.

That is also what crossed my mind many times. I tend to think that they are deceived/self-deceiving a lot more than the more asleep among the fast asleep. A almost beyond belief immaturity and wickedness. That what make sense to me more when i try to have a idea of how they "think".

[emm_david]

Has the Spider unfold his Web (World Wide Web) to capture our time , energy and minds into an information structure which where we all pull the rope to ourselves trying to bring others to our vision? 

When you analyze the Information Age through the perspective of a computer programmer, electronician, physicist and radio / telecommunication technician, you see the whole play as this:

1. computers have been created in the current eras (there were older computers in the mayan and greek times, then with Pascal, Charles Babage, sewing machines but let's focus on the 1900 and after) for military purposes. Search Eniac, Colosus, Enigma machine.

2. Very quickly appeared the screen or monitor. The screen like TV has an hypnotic effect and it sticks people to it, like the Church with Bible stories. 

The screen projects remote pictures locally which go into the mind both conscious and subconscious of the audience. 

Initially a screen is something put in front of a danger to protect from like flame, fire. But in this case, the screen protects those who create the pictures: the manipulators, string pullers, remember, it's a theater.

The monitor is there to monitor: now screen have a webcam inbeded. Also the images on monitors can be spied using special equipment: https://youtu.be/wWbLMDlV-9M

Monitor who?
Anybody

Monitor for what?
For any fake pretext: the psychopaths in charge fear anybody so they better want an eye on all thus the push to the Cloud so all our data is stored in a known place where they have full control: yes they own the legal system too as the legal system is under the Vatican who is under the rule of the psychopaths. Full circle.
   
Monitor by who? see last line of previous paragraph.

Screens / Monitors are there to push information into the subconscious of watchers and to record information from those who produces anything using their machine. The flicker of the screens are also used to transfer information.

Remember that usually when you use a computer, you are seated. In that position you are not awake but in a sleepy state. And in this state your brain is easily conditionned.

Of course also the monitors are electron guns, they beam you with electricity turnt into color and chrominance signals who enter your eyes and also target your pineal gland. And the screens are also filling your seated space with electromagnetic smog, which you can see easily: just take a photo of a live screen and you'll see the electromagnetic spectrum in the background of the picture displayed, the hazy electromagnetic spectrum cf 
https://youtu.be/YbzBTdU7iRU

The screen with its frame is obviously framing the limits or borders of what you can see when at the computer and act like blinker. Limits for both the eyes and the mind: see how propaganda works, people are unable for most to understand that another reality exist outside what they are told through the screens...

I will continue later the parralel but it's obvious when you know well both the Religious and the Technological world: The Elite make us live in a virtualised world.

[tommydrifter]

hello everybody

 

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re: the spiders

 

in david icke's language, the spiders are the archons: these are the dark spirit entities that corrupt the aliens and humans in the physical universe. i posted the "david icke dot-connector" television series (richie allen interviews icke for "the peoples' voice" in the years 2013-2014) in the "recommended viewing" forum: the information the original poster is looking for can be found here.

 

re: what i believe is the complete picture (to call a spade a spade)

 

as far as i am concerned, the buck stops with the aliens who control the illuminati. what we are dealing with is psychopathic aliens who are technologically advanced and are not connected to the divine: the aliens are atheists. if what is happening on the earth is the result of mind-control and programming, where is it coming from?

 

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