How can we learn to live in harmonry with a divide & conquer political agenda?

[Macnamara]

 

2 minutes ago, RobSS said:

 You wrote: "surely it is only fair if white people can do the same."

 

no i wrote:

 

the alt right then developed and their argument was that if other groups could self identify and then organise in their own self interests then surely it is only fair if white people can do the same

[RobSS]

6 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

option 1 only mentioned 'bright thoughts' but sometimes destroying self delusion is painful

 

so i had to create another option

 

Well, it's quibbling a little bit because once you transmute those dark thoughts, which I agree can be a painful process, then your left, hopefully, with the reward of bright thoughts. Apologies for not being clearer in the original post.

 

 

 

[Macnamara]

11 minutes ago, RobSS said:

You should've added that the aim is not only for people to "identify" with one of the groups you mentioned, but also to "identify" as white.

 

i would say that many people have been driven to start thinking more about race due to identarianism

 

due to identarianism many white people will now be concerned that they are hated purely on the basis of their skin colour and this will create a defencive counter position

Edited August 26, 2021 by Macnamara

[RobSS]

10 minutes ago, Basket Case said:

 

Just pointing out that left to our own devices WE would not have defeated anyone.. 

 

You really think that the USA had the same values as the UK? (at the time) 

 

Not entirely, but the outcome was still the same. The Nazis were still defeated. Unfortunately, the Deep State, in the USA, gave many Nazi figures refuge.

 

[Macnamara]

10 minutes ago, RobSS said:

Well, it's quibbling a little bit because once you transmute those dark thoughts, which I agree can be a painful process, then your left, hopefully, with the reward of bright thoughts. Apologies for not being clearer in the original post.

 

let us consider that you are in fact not a master of the temple and that the only reason you are able to take a dispassionate view of the ethnocide of the british people is that you have no skin in that game

 

you are like a person watching two football teams neither of which you support and whilst the real supporters of those teams get excited around you you mock and deride them

 

but the reason you are not excited about the game is that your team isn't in it and so you don't care one iota about the outcome

 

or it could even be darker than that....perhaps you support the team that is against the british people and would like to see them win and therefore it is in your interests to encourage the british team to simply stop trying. Maybe you will even sing them a lullaby

Edited August 26, 2021 by Macnamara

[RobSS]

6 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

 

no i wrote:

 

the alt right then developed and their argument was that if other groups could self identify and then organise in their own self interests then surely it is only fair if white people can do the same

 

So you don't identify with the alt-right, apologies if I misunderstood.

 

Are you in favour of having a white "identity" label that forms a group to combat the groups that have formed under all the other "identity" labels?

 

 

[Macnamara]

8 minutes ago, RobSS said:

So you don't identify with the alt-right, apologies if I misunderstood.

 

i told you i have had nothing to do with any right wing groups

 

i have known one right wing person and the only reason i knew him was because he got employed in the company i was working in and we ultimately fell out

 

i have suspicions of the alt right as it has voices within it that seem to say a lot of true talking points to whip up outrage before then directing that outrage at muslims when i do not see muslims as the people in the cabal so i see another psyop at work there

 

8 minutes ago, RobSS said:

Are you in favour of having a white "identity" label that forms a group to combat the groups that have formed under all the other "identity" labels?

 

i'm in favour of being left alone

 

i believe in self defence though and i also believe that when people are threatened they can form a group through which to defend themselves. I don't see why such a group would have to be exclusively white though because it isn't just white people that are getting screwed over by the cabal

Edited August 26, 2021 by Macnamara

[RobSS]

3 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

let us consider that you are in fact not a master of the temple and that the only reason you are able to take a dispassionate view of the ethnocide of the british people is that you have no skin in that game

 

you are like a person watching two football teams neither of which you support and whilst the real supporters of those teams get excited around you you mock and deride them

 

but the reason you are not excited about the game is that your team isn't in it and so you don't care one iota about the outcome

 

or it could even be darker than that....perhaps you support the team that is against the british people and would like to see them win

 

As I've mentioned before, I'm not mocking or deriding any side. Neither have I ever imagined that I'm master of any temple.

 

What I'm saying is that I'm 'dead' to the world and I know that I'll eventually die, but I'm not afraid of death, so I look within to raise my energy in order to disentangle myself from the illusory labels and "identity politics" that have been devised by the cabal, and nefarious other dimensional beings, to divide and conquer.

 

English translation of a German poem by Friedrich Rückert (1788–1866)

 

I am lost to the world

With which I used to waste much time;

It has for so long known nothing of me,

It may well believe that I am dead.

 

Nor am I at all concerned

If it should think that I am dead.

Nor can I deny it,

For truly I am dead to the world.

 

I am dead to the world’s tumult

And rest in a quiet realm!

I live alone in my heaven,

In my love, in my song!

 

 

 

[Macnamara]

2 minutes ago, RobSS said:

What I'm saying is that I'm 'dead' to the world

 

perhaps then you are like the native people in the taiga: you feel you have no roots....no belonging

 

so you joined the ranks of the skin heads to seek belonging

Edited August 26, 2021 by Macnamara

[RobSS]

2 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

i told you i have had nothing to do with any right wing groups

 

i have known one right wing person and the only reason i knew him was because he got employed in the company i was working in and we ultimately fell out

 

i have suspicions of the alt right as it has voices within it that seem to say a lot of true talking points to whip up outrage before the directing that outrage at muslims when i do not see muslims as the people in the cabal

 

 

i'm in favour of being left alone

 

i believe in self defence though and i also believe that when people are threatened they can form a group through which to defend themselves. I don't see why such a group would have to be exclusively white though because it isn't just white people that are getting screwed over by the cabal

 

Thanks for the clarifications. So you're going to take on the global cabal on your own without any organisation? I take it you believe it's possible for the cabal to be defeated? How about the demonic realm? What can you do about that?

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Macnamara]

1 minute ago, RobSS said:

Thanks for the clarifications. So you're going to take on the global cabal on your own without any organisation?

 

this has all been answered already

 

i am going to take responsibility within my own life whilst sharing knowledge with others in the hope that they may do the same

 

libertarians don't coerce, they pursuade

[RobSS]

Just now, Macnamara said:

 

perhaps then you are like the native people in the taiga: you fee you have no roots....no belonging

 

I feel a belonging in my infinite inner being, which is connected to Jesus Christ, as opposed to the self that wants to identify with labels and external illusory appearances.

 

 

[Macnamara]

Just now, RobSS said:

I feel a belonging in my infinite inner being, which is connected to Jesus Christ, as opposed to the self that wants to identify with labels and external illusory appearances.

 

yes you are the product of globalisation

 

the more people like you the cabal can create the easier their task will be

[RobSS]

Just now, Macnamara said:

 

this has all been answered already

 

i am going to take responsibility within my own life whilst sharing knowledge with others in the hope that they may do the same

 

libertarians don't coerce, they pursuade

 

Great, how about the other two questions I posed... Do you believe it's possible for the cabal to be defeated? How about the demonic realm? What can you do about that?

 

[Macnamara]

Just now, RobSS said:

Great, how about the other two questions I posed... Do you believe it's possible for the cabal to be defeated?

 

yes but it would require large numbers of people to start completely redesigning their lives (to take responsibility) and to then start climbing that mountain towards an alternative

 

if enough people engage with and embody that parallel system then yes it could gather pace, grow and eclipse the current corporatocracy

 

in theory it is still possible. In practise i don't see anywhere near the kind of traction needed for this

 

what i see is lots of people marching and waving placards. This is because their mindset is one of always wanting immediate results. They fantasise about holding the ultimate march where the cabal then say ''ok we are sorry, we have been naughty but we are going to be good now'' and then everyone can go back to watching the football on their widescreen smart TV's whilst chugging down mass produced chemical tasting beer but even if the cabal did say that it would just be a feint and not genuine

 

The reality of creating change is that it is slow because we have been born into a corporate monopoly world where the cabals reach is far and wide so that to start using alternatives in your life takes thought and time and effort and change cannot be achieved over night. Equally on the macro if millions of people began the same journey things would not change over night. It would take time to grow the parallel economy and wane the corporatocracy

 

These things take time and effort and patience and people don't want to hear that

 

Just now, RobSS said:

How about the demonic realm? What can you do about that?

 

just focus on yourself and pursuing right action

[RobSS]

2 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

yes but it would require large numbers of people to start completely redesigning their lives (to take responsibility) and to then start climbing that mountain towards an alternative

 

if enough people engage with and embody that parallel system then yes it could gather pace, grow and eclipse the current corporatocracy

 

in theory it is still possible. In practise i don't see anywhere near the kind of traction needed for this

 

what i see is lots of people marching and waving placards. This is because their mindset is one of always wanting immediate results. They fantasise about holding the ultimate march where the cabal then say ''ok we are sorry, we have been naughty but we are going to be good now'' and then everyone can go back to watching the football on their widescreen smart TV's whilst chugging down mass produced chemical tasting beer but even if the cabal did say that it would just be a feint and not genuine

 

The reality of creating change is that it is slow because we have been born into a corporate monopoly world where the cabals reach is far and wide so that to start using alternatives in your life takes thought and time and effort and change cannot be achieved over night. Equally on the macro if millions of people began the same journey things would not change over night. It would take time to grow the parallel economy and wane the corporatocracy

 

These things take time and effort and patience and people don't want to hear that

 

 

just focus on yourself and pursuing right action

 

Okay, I'd put all that into option 1, even though I didn't initially spell out the details. We're on the same page in this regard.

 

I have one reservation, which I've already mentioned before, is posters who make sweeping generalisations about minority groups throwing them in a very negative light. I don't think you do that. In deed, I read the other thread, started by the poster who said he was black, and in that thread you made fair comments about racial equality, etc, so I'm not referring to you.

 

When sweeping generalisations are made, I like to know why because I don't recognise that being a reflection of what I see in the world about us.

 

 

 

[Macnamara]

1 minute ago, RobSS said:

In deed, I read the other thread, started by the poster who said he was black, and in that thread you made fair comments about racial equality, etc, so I'm not referring to you.

 

my position is that we are all nature: black, white, yellow, brown, christian, jew, muslim, gay, straight, trans, male, female

 

we all belong on this planet

 

i don't trust a centralised authority to organise us all

 

i think we should all just get on with organising ourselves

 

the problem we have is that some people get a notion that they want to plunder others so they seek central control. People then have a natural law right to defend themselves against that

 

i was born into a time where some people have pretty much got global control and they have moulded the legal system, the economy, the media and the political system into a rigged game in their favour

 

our challenge then is to climb out of that and that is going to require a lot of work

[RobSS]

1 minute ago, Macnamara said:

 

my position is that we are all nature: black, white, yellow, brown, christian, jew, muslim, gay, straight, trans, male, female

 

we all belong on this planet

 

i don't trust a centralised authority to organise us all

 

i think we should all just get on with organising ourselves

 

the problem we have is that some people get a notion that they want to plunder others so they seek central control. People then have a natural law right to defend themselves against that

 

i was born into a time where some people have pretty much got global control and they have moulded the legal system, the economy, the media and the political system into a rigged game in their favour

 

our challenge then is to climb out of that and that is going to require a lot of work

 

Good lots of clarification going on, and you mean well. My position is that my inner being is not of this world and everything that is (nature) is a phantom reality, even though it's possible for aspects of that reality to appear incredibly beautiful, but this is a question of personal belief.

 

 

 

[Truthspoon]

8 hours ago, Macnamara said:

 

who said anything about racial division, prejudice or exclusion?

 

here's what i believe. I believe that we are ALL part of nature. I believe that we are not separate from nature and that we are not separate from the earth that we live on. I believe that nature has created a diverse human species in order to survive on a varied planet

 

I think that there has always been mixing of people and that it can act as a way of adapting humans for example to adapt as climate changes which it does even without the elites messing with the weather

 

So on one side you have race purists like the nazis or zionists and on the other side you have people saying everyone should be just one colour. Those are the two extremes

 

I am on neither of those extremes. I am the middle way between them where i think there is always some mixing and that it is natures way of adapting but that organic natural process is not what we are seeing in the 'modern' age

 

What we are seeing is a deliberate MASS movement of people orchestrated by the cabal as part of their social engineering of the world. They don't do this out of a love of humanity they do this because they know it is going to create all kinds of consequences which they believe they can gain advantage from

 

So just because i am saying that flooding millions of outsiders into these small islands is a bad idea it doesn't mean that i am advocating the opposite extreme. I'm not....i'm just streetwise enough to realise that this is all being done with devilment in mind

 

If you think its being done by the cabal out of good intentions then i have some prime swamp land to sell you

 

 

I for one.... and most normal people didn't really have a problem with immigration, since it was at reasonable levels, nor indeed the elements of our multicultural society until fairly recently because I didn't quite notice what had been put in place under Labour in the late 90's.

 

It was precisely at that time that the Labour government decided to 'rub our noses in multiculturalism' and we started importing hundreds of thousands of immigrants every year with a peak of nearly a million in one year at one point.

This was the first stage (since early multicultural Britain was largely harmonious and we were all on the same side...we had that 'harmony' that Rob is talking about).

 

The second stage has begun fairly recently when there was a significantly large number of immigrants and non whites in all the cities they were to take cultural power and demographic power from the whites.. And they are supported by the media, courts, politicians, and police to do this. 

 

This is the bit we never expected (because after all most people have good intentions and expect their governments and other people to be largely the same.

 

The day I became an advocate for white identity was relatively recently. I was living in London and had just finished a supply teaching job in West London. When I came out of the school all of the families came to pick up their kids and though of course all of the students had been non white what struck me was seeing all the families from the local area, hundreds of people.... in a street in West London, none of whom were white..... I realised that this was what London and many of the big cities of England had become...

 

If anyone thinks this is normal or excusable then they are just not playing with  straight bat.

 

It is simply ethnic replacement. We are being replaced and it is undeniable. Rob doesn't care about that because he has nothing invested in whiteness or being English..... he has his own minority interests...... and typically, as a member of a minority he seems to be spending most his time attacking our soon to be minority interests....

 

Of course he does this with a clean conscience because he has been led to believe we are the bad guys.... And he simply doesn't live in a reality where he ever has to address anything negative, he just won't deal with it. The grooming and trafficking of young girls by Pakistani rape gangs... the murder of white kids by immigrants.... these realities never enter his dimension so we are dealing with someone who is to my mind, only choosing to deal with the reality he chooses.

 

Which is fine, but then it does not make you fit to pontificate and comment on matters which you choose to remove your consciousness from. They are not your problem...fine, but they are ours...let us discuss them without your ungrounded platitudes and passive aggressive condescension. 

 

What Rob (and all those airy fairy conceited do-gooder like him) is doing is watching the frog boil (those of use who are English) and chastising us if we dare to ask to turn off the heat.

 

I would say that represents a pathological lack of empathy....  

 

 

 

Edited August 27, 2021 by Truthspoon

[Golden Retriever]

17 hours ago, Strummer101 said:

Golden Roastie has a new favourite picture! Is it a Banksy?

 

No, just a visual representation of that old poem, 'a little learning is a dangerous thing'. Try looking beyond the end of your nose, of maybe beyond the Jew-Hate websites once in a while?  

 

I have been reading this thread, and I can tell you I like the cut of RobSS's jib, a flash of colour against the dismal grey of many.

 

Good work fella.

 

 

 

 

This is called stalking a member.

 

Instead of replying to my comment on the Afghanistan thread about the banker mural and

slavery, you come over to this thread for the first time and troll.

 

 

[Truthspoon]

40 minutes ago, Golden Retriever said:

 

 

This is called stalking a member.

 

Instead of replying to my comment on the Afghanistan thread about the banker mural and

slavery, you come over to this thread for the first time and troll.

 

 

 

Because he's one of them dressed up as a pretend punk.

[Truthspoon]

16 hours ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

 

A bulldog nationalist isn't based, it's halfway there, but fair enough.

 

I apologise for having a go at you yesterday.

 

You're right. I've been looking over Morrisey's comments regarding Israel and it is truly nauseating.

 

I guess I was trapped in a Morrissey trance for a few hours...... There are few enough culture heroes left who have not let us down one way or another, or the whole culture itself exposed as basically a stepping stone in breaking down society from the Beatles onwards..... I got fixated on Morrissey and thought perhaps is the one star who hasn't let us down. But alas.....no.

 

I don't know why Morrissey is so in love with Israel....maybe the appeal of Tel Aviv bath houses.....

 

Oh well.......

 

 

 

 

Edited August 27, 2021 by Truthspoon

[Macnamara]

4 hours ago, Truthspoon said:

I for one.... and most normal people didn't really have a problem with immigration, since it was at reasonable levels, nor indeed the elements of our multicultural society until fairly recently because I didn't quite notice what had been put in place under Labour in the late 90's.

 

It was precisely at that time that the Labour government decided to 'rub our noses in multiculturalism' and we started importing hundreds of thousands of immigrants every year with a peak of nearly a million in one year at one point.

 

when does it end?

Asylum backlog hits record 70k: Soaring number of cases awaiting a decision sends figure to a new high... despite a fall in applicants

• There has been a surge in illegal immigration to the UK via the English Channel
• Critics have described the Home Office’s asylum system as not fit for purpose 
• More than 70,000 are awaiting decision on whether they can start new life in UK

By Mario Ledwith for the Daily Mail

Published: 00:23 BST, 27 August 2021 | Updated: 00:24 BST, 27 August 2021

The UK’s asylum backlog has soared to record levels despite a fall in applicants, official figures have revealed.

More than 70,000 are awaiting a decision on whether they can start a new life in the UK amid accusations that the Home Office’s system is failing.

The number left waiting for a decision on their future has increased by 73 per cent in the past two years.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9931251/Soaring-number-asylum-cases-awaiting-decision-sends-figure-new-high.html

 

4 hours ago, Truthspoon said:

It is simply ethnic replacement. We are being replaced and it is undeniable.

 

agreed

 

4 hours ago, Truthspoon said:

Rob doesn't care about that because he has nothing invested in whiteness or being English..... he has his own minority interests......

 

agreed

 

4 hours ago, Truthspoon said:

and typically, as a member of a minority he seems to be spending most his time attacking our soon to be minority interests....

 

agreed

 

4 hours ago, Truthspoon said:

Of course he does this with a clean conscience because he has been led to believe we are the bad guys.... And he simply doesn't live in a reality where he ever has to address anything negative, he just won't deal with it. The grooming and trafficking of young girls by Pakistani rape gangs... the murder of white kids by immigrants.... these realities never enter his dimension so we are dealing with someone who is to my mind, only choosing to deal with the reality he chooses.

 

agreed

 

4 hours ago, Truthspoon said:

Which is fine, but then it does not make you fit to pontificate and comment on matters which you choose to remove your consciousness from. They are not your problem...fine, but they are ours...let us discuss them without your ungrounded platitudes and passive aggressive condescension. 

 

ah but the passive aggressive condescension is all part of the psyop because it is how they shame people into silence. As they ethnocide you they seek to claim the moral high ground but genocide has never been the moral high ground

[EnigmaticWorld]

1 minute ago, Truthspoon said:

 

I apologise for having a go at you yesterday.

 

You're right. I've been looking over Morrisey's comments regarding Israel and it is truly nauseating.

 

I guess I was trapped in a Morrissey trance for a few hours...... There are few enough culture heroes left who have not let us down one way or another, or the whole culture itself exposed as basically a stepping stone in breaking down society from the Beatles onwards..... I got fixated on Morrissey and thought perhaps is the one star who hasn't let us down. But alas.....no.

 

I don't know why Morrissey is so in love with Israel....maybe the appeal of Tel Aviv bath houses.....

 

Oh well.......

 

Mate, don't apologize. We're allowed to disagree on things, it doesn't mean we have to fall out.

 

I know I'm a bit of a purity spiraler. I don't even follow much mainstream music so I'm just a killjoy that's out of touch. That's not to say I don't have my guilty pleasures like still indulging in some mainstream video games that I know have some agendas going on, but I guess the vices of my generation are slightly different to some of you older folks.

 

I'm more concerned about Britain First than Morrisey anyway.

[Macnamara]

11 hours ago, Macnamara said:

the reason people don't want to face the rules of this reality is because they don't like the rules

 

the rules are that if you do dumb things it will have consequences for you and that is karma. So for example i mentioned before coca cola as an example. If you keep drinking that stuff in your life it will have a negative effect in your health. Drink enough of it and you will get fat and have diabetes and then you will live with the karma of being in a damaged and poorly functioning body

 

if lots of people behave the same way then we will suffer a collective karma of then having to live in a society full of sick people and this karma will be even worse in a country with a socialised medical system because everyone will have to pay for that

 

That's the rules of this reality: if you don't take responsibility you suffer consequences

Diabetes crisis 'threatens to bankrupt NHS': One in every eight pounds spent on prescriptions is to treat the disease, experts warn

• Britain’s diabetes crisis huge cost to NHS with £1.19bn spent on prescriptions
• Nearly 5m in the UK thought to have diabetes, of which nine in ten have type 2
• Patients in deprived areas four-times more likely to be prescribed diabetes drugs

By Shaun Wooller Health Correspondent For The Daily Mail

Published: 01:44 BST, 27 August 2021 | Updated: 10:15 BST, 27 August 2021

Britain’s diabetes crisis threatens to ‘bankrupt the NHS’ as one in every eight pounds spent on prescriptions is now for the disease, experts warn.

The Health Service spent £1.19billion on the likes of anti-diabetes pills and insulin in England last year – up a quarter since 2015/16.

More than 3.05million patients were prescribed 57.9million items typically used to treat the condition, the NHS Business Services Authority said.

This is up 12.7 per cent from 2.7million people five years earlier when doctors issued 49.7million prescriptions for the disease. Children younger than four are among those being given the drugs.

Nearly 5million in the UK are thought to have diabetes, of which nine in ten have type 2.

Type 1 diabetes is an unpreventable autoimmune disease that usually develops in childhood but type 2 is largely preventable and is linked to obesity. The condition can lead to blindness, kidney failure, heart attacks, strokes and some people require limb amputations.

Previous studies have put the total cost to the NHS at £14billion a year or more than £25,000 every minute.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9931367/Diabetes-crisis-threatens-bankrupt-NHS-One-eight-pounds-spent-prescriptions.html

is type 1 an 'unpreventable autoimmune disease' or is it vaccine damage?