How can we learn to live in harmonry with a divide & conquer political agenda?

[Macnamara]

1 minute ago, RobSS said:

 

You quoted two paragraphs of mine but ignored points I made in at least three other paragraphs:

 

i dealt with those in a separate post (see above)

[RobSS]

1 minute ago, Macnamara said:

 

did the 'countries in the west' attack afghanistan or did the cabal that rules over those countries do it?

 

do you think that the elites that control the five eyes countries stand with the common folk of those countries

 

do you for example think that i and the crown stand together and that the crown cares about me?

 

no.....they have been screwing us over for centuries. Today they screw over afghanistan and then they tell us, the british people that we must now take people into our small island to make up for what THEY have done

 

But the elite that rule britain don't see themselves as british. They are part of a global cult. They despise britain and they despise the british people and they seek to flood outsiders into britain in order to destroy both

 

The cabal that rules over the western countries are responsible, but it was all done in the name of Western countries, and that's the problem - this reality has created a reality that's controlled by evil.

 

The people who live in the West are mostly innocent of the decision to go to war against Afghanistan, but we also can't ignore the fact that the people who are being displaced in Afghanistan are also innocent. I don't think they should be left to die or be persecuted.

 

[RobSS]

3 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

i dealt with those in a separate post (see above)

So I saw after I submitted the post...... so I deleted the post, and replied to the post I missed (see the post I just submitted above).

 

[Macnamara]

32 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

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yeah.....now put your mind to the idea of extricating yourself from that web!

 

very hard to do....and when you try to talk to others about the idea of doing that as a way to counter the cabal they will think you sound like a 'fanatic'!

 

but really you are just someone who realised just how deep in the shit we really are

[RobSS]

1 minute ago, Macnamara said:

As you go through the list of companies in which Vanguard and BlackRock strategically hold a large investment interest, consider how the products and services provided by these companies are inextricably intertwined with your daily life.

• Google
• YouTube
• Facebook
• Twitter
• Instagram
• Amazon
• Alibaba
• Pfizer
• Bayer Pharmaceuticals
• AstraZeneca
• PepsiCo
• Coca Cola
• Microsoft
• Apple
• Netflix
• Reuters
• Viacom (CBS)
• ATT
• Tesla
• The New York Times
• Agricultural Bank of China
• FedEx
• American Airlines
• United Airlines
• TUI AG
• Zimmer Biomet Holdings
• Volkswagen AG
• Ford Motor Company

 

yeah.....now put your mind to the idea of extricating yourself from that web!

 

very hard to do....and when you try to talk to others about the idea of doing that as a way to counter the cabal they will think you sound like a 'fanatic'!

 

but really you are just someone who realised just how deep in the shit we really are

 

You're preaching to the gallery here.

 

[Macnamara]

14 minutes ago, RobSS said:

The cabal that rules over the western countries are responsible, but it was all done in the name of Western countries, and that's the problem - this reality has created a reality that's controlled by evil.

 

The people who live in the West are mostly innocent of the decision to go to war against Afghanistan, but we also can't ignore the fact that the people who are being displaced in Afghanistan are also innocent. I don't think they should be left to die or be persecuted.

 

the libertarian position would always be that we should not have been in there in the first place!

 

now consider that the cabal will always have an excuse for what it wants to do. Often the excuse is compelling

 

think back to when they used their corporate media to flash that photo of the boy who drowned in the mediterrenean trying to make the crossing in a rubber dinghy

 

what they did there was create what they call in the media a 'human story' which means that they bring things down to the micro level to put a human face on things so that the readership can identify with the people and it becomes more personal

 

They did this with the afghanistan story too with a photo in the papers of two afghani twin girls

 

now consider that the boy in the dinghy was in the dinghy because the cabal paid for him to be there and they got their assets in europe like merkl to tell those migrants that europes doors were open and that caused the migrants to make the crossing

 

Now consider that people are scrabbling to get out of afghanistan BECAUSE the cabal went in there and meddled.

 

so the same pattern will keep repeating. They will mess places up and then find an excuse for why we mustn't refuse another flood of people into the country. They did it too with syria and iraq and libya etc

 

They did it with europe too despite people saying that being in the schengen zone would see hundreds of thousands of people come here but the government lied and now post brexit as they ask for people who want to stay to register we find out that is was in fact MILLIONS of people who came and settled

 

it will be one excuse after another until we are ethnocided

 

The afghani people are not going to be ethnocided. They have a country. We only have one country....these islands and if they get fucked up where are we going to go to?

Edited August 26, 2021 by Macnamara

[Macnamara]

7 minutes ago, RobSS said:

You're preaching to the gallery here.

 

you'd think so but no i have met a fair bit of resistance even on this forum saying to people that the way we get out of this mess is by taking personal responsibility and for example ending the smart grid by refusing all smart tech

 

people don't want to hear that and start acting as if i'm the bad guy.....they shoot the messenger

[Ethel]

6 hours ago, Truthspoon said:

 

On reggae music: “The most racist music in the entire world… an absolute total glorification of black supremacy.”

 

 

Morrissey has spoken before about his love for 'Double Barrel' by Dave and Ansell Collins. Which, last time I checked, was a ska-reggae song:

 

 

[blowonthepie]

On 8/24/2021 at 9:31 AM, RobSS said:

Can we please try to keep this thread about how we can find harmony, rather than constantly looking for divisions?

 

Thanks!

 

There won’t be any proper harmony until every being here in this time and place, awakens to what they really are; only my opinion.

 

And I’m with DIs take on what we really are.

 

As an aside; until very very recently, while I listened to Ickes stuff and agreed with most of it, the one thing I couldn’t/wouldn’t wrap my head around, is the ‘we are all one’ thing.

 

Intellectually I knew what he was saying but I thought, shit, I don’t want to be ‘one’ with most of the arseholes on this planet; humans are a really shit species on the whole, f*** that!

 

But finally, the penny dropped, and since then, life has been a lot more ‘peaceful’.

 

Letting go the above rhetoric has been very very good :).

[RobSS]

3 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

the libertarian position would always be that we should not have been in there in the first place!

 

now consider that the cabal will always have an excuse for what it wants to do. Often the excuse is compelling

 

think back to when they used their corporate media to flash that photo of the boy who drowned in the mediterrenean trying to make the crossing in a rubber dinghy

 

what they did there was create what they call in the media a 'human story' which means that they bring things down to the micro level to put a human face on things so that the readership can identify with the people and it becomes more personal

 

They did this with the afghanistan story too with a photo in the papers of two afghani twin girls

 

now consider that the boy in the dinghy was in the dinghy because the cabal paid for him to be there and they got their assets in europe like merkl to tell those migrants that europes doors were open and that caused the migrants to make the crossing

 

Now consider that people are scrabbling to get out of afghanistan BECAUSE the cabal went in there and meddled.

 

so the same pattern will keep repeating. They will mess places up and then find an excuse for why we mustn't refuse another flood of people into the country. They did it too with syria and iraq and libya etc

 

They did it with europe too despite people saying that being in the schengen zone would see hundreds of thousands of people come here but the government lied and now post brexit as they ask for people who want to stay to register we find out that is was in fact MILLIONS of people who came and settled

 

it will be one excuse after another until we are ethnocided

 

The afghani people are not going to be ethnocided. They have a country. We only have one country....these islands and if they get fucked up where are we going to go to?

 

However, a lot of Afghan people will be persecuted and killed. I'm also waiting to see your detailed solution to the overall problem. All I get so far is complaining. Details please.

 

[RobSS]

3 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

you'd think so but no i have met a fair bit of resistance even on this forum saying to people that the way we get out of this mess is by taking personal responsibility and for example ending the smart grid by refusing all smart tech

 

people don't want to hear that and start acting as if i'm the bad guy.....they shoot the messenger

 

Okay, but can we stick to posting things in this thread that deal with solutions. Causes and background info can be posted in other threads, cheers.

 

[RobSS]

6 minutes ago, blowonthepie said:

 

There won’t be any proper harmony until every being here in this time and place, awakens to what they really are; only my opinion.

 

And I’m with DIs take on what we really are.

 

As an aside; until very very recently, while I listened to Ickes stuff and agreed with most of it, the one thing I couldn’t/wouldn’t wrap my head around, is the ‘we are all one’ thing.

 

Intellectually I knew what he was saying but I thought, shit, I don’t want to be ‘one’ with most of the arseholes on this planet; humans are a really shit species on the whole, f*** that!

 

But finally, the penny dropped, and since then, life has been a lot more ‘peaceful’.

 

Letting go the above rhetoric has been very very good :).

 

Okay, as I replied to Mac, can we stick to posting things in this thread that deal with solutions. Causes and background info can be posted in other threads, cheers.

 

We all want solutions don't we? What are yours? Details please...

 

 

 

Edited August 26, 2021 by RobSS

[blowonthepie]

1 minute ago, RobSS said:

 

Okay, as I replied to Mac, can we stick to posting things in this thread that deal with solutions. Causes and background info can be posted in other threads, cheers. We all want solutions don't we? What are yours? Details please...

 

 

As I said above, everyone realising we are all ‘one’; though how you can make that come about, I have no idea; what about you :).

[RobSS]

The Redskins

 

80s British left-wing skinhead group The Redskins, circa 1985. From left to right, bass player Martin Hewes, drummer Nick King and vocalist Chris Dean.

 

I wasn't on the political skinhead scene - this post is just for the record...

 

 

[blowonthepie]

On 8/26/2021 at 2:59 AM, RobSS said:

 

LOL! I read most of your posts there, so don't try to pull the wool over my eyes.

 

 

 

Please stick to the topic, thanks.

[Macnamara]

17 minutes ago, blowonthepie said:

 ‘we are all one’ thing

 

sure but that oneness has expressed itself in myriad forms to suit a varied planet

 

why do white people of european descent like hugh jackman in australia get skin cancer problems? because they aren't evolved to live there. Their ancestors were dumped there by the crown as a penal colony

 

why do black people in northern europe often have vitamin D deficiency? same reason

 

then there is culture......

 

new agey people like to quote terence mckenna about wiping clean the culture slate but this is absolutely retarded for a number of reasons

 

the first thing to understand about terence mckenna was that he appears to be a transhumanist (see his talk 'shamans amongst the machines') and transhumanists ultimately fantasise about leaving their human bodies altogether so they don't care about the practicalities of culture

 

so re the practicalities of culture: culture tends to evolve out of place. Why do sikhs wear turbans? They wear turbans because the punjab is hot and turbans help cool your head. Why do russians wear fur hats? They wear fur hats because russia is often cold and fur keeps their heads warm

 

So if you say that culture doesn't matter and that you are going to throw everything out of the window then you are saying you are going to discard everything that previous generations learned as ways to survive in your climate.....which is beyond stupid

 

Thirdly humans need roots for their wellbeing. I watched a documentary by the german filmmaker werner herzog about the people living in the taiga forest. The native people he spoke to there were drunks who did manual labour jobs because they lacked the education to do anything else and used the small amount of money they earned to buy poor quality alcohol to escape from reality. The communists had destroyed their culture to create a blank slate and as a result their connection to their ancestors and their roots had been severed. They were a people adrift in a world in which they did not feel they belonged. They had some sacred dolls which they showed herzog but they didn't understand the significance of the power items because the communists had expunged that knowledge

 

There was a fire during the filming and the dolls were lost in the fire so those people even lost their artifacts. They looked utterly dejected and broken and i would not wish the look those people had in their eyes on anyone

 

i know however that there are spiteful and malevolent people out there working to try and do exactly the same thing to me and my people

Edited August 26, 2021 by Macnamara

[RobSS]

2 minutes ago, blowonthepie said:

 

As I said above, everyone realising we are all ‘one’; though how you can make that come about, I have no idea; what about you :).

 

Hoping that everyone will have an epiphany and realise we are one can only come about via Divine intervention, IMO. It's been prophesied this will happen, but until it does, regarding a global solution, everything is in vain, IMO. That's why I focus more on things that I can actually nurture and develop.

 

[Macnamara]

14 minutes ago, RobSS said:

However, a lot of Afghan people will be persecuted and killed.

 

how could a large military equipped by the US and UK fold before the advance of the taliban?

 

the situation has been created

[RobSS]

2 minutes ago, blowonthepie said:

 

Please stick to the topic, thanks.

 

In a post just now, regarding a solution for these overall global problems, you said, "I have no idea". So are you only  going to complain then?

 

 

[RobSS]

1 minute ago, Macnamara said:

 

how could a large military equipped by the US and UK fold before the advance of the taliban?

 

the situation has been created

 

I agree, but what about the innocent people who will be persecuted and killed, who are trying to flea?

 

Edited August 26, 2021 by RobSS

[RobSS]

4 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

sure but that oness has expressed itself in myriad forms to suit a varied planet

 

why do white people of european descent like hugh jackman in australia get skin cancer problems? because they aren't evolved to live there. There ancestors were dumped there by the crown as a penal colony

 

why do black people in northern europe often have vitamin D deficiency? same reason

 

then there is culture......

 

new agey people like to quote terence mckenna about wiping clean the culture slate but this is absolutely retarded for a number of reasons

 

the first thing to understand about terence mckenna was that he appears to be a transhumanist (see his talk 'shamans amongst the machines') and transhumanists ultimately fantasise about leaving their human bodies altogether so they don't care about the practicalities of culture

 

so re the practicalities of culture: culture tends to evolve out of place. Why do sikhs wear turbans? They wear turbans because the punjab is hot and turbans help cool your head. Why do russians wear fur hats? They wear fur hats because russia is often cold and fur keeps their heads warm

 

So if you say that culture doesn't matter and that you are going to throw everything out of the window then you are saying you are going to discard everything that previous generations learned as ways to survive in your climate.....which is beyond stupid

 

Thirdly humans need roots for their wellbeing. I watched a documentary by the german filmmaker werner herzog about the people living in the taiga forest. The native people he spoke to there were drunks who did manual labour jobs because they lacked the education to do anything else and used the small amount of money they earned to buy poor quality alcohol to escape from reality. The communists had destroyed their culture to create a blank slate and as a result their connection to their ancestors and their roots had been severed. They were a people adrift in a world in which they did not feel they belonged. They had some sacred dolls which they showed herzog but they didn't understand the significance of the power items because the communists had expunged that knowledge

 

There was a fire during the filming and the dolls were lost in the fire so those people even lost their artifacts. They looked utterly dejected and broken and i would not wish the look those people had in their eyes on anyone

 

i know however that there are spiteful and malevolent people out there working to try and do exactly the same thing to me and my people

 

I understand your worries and complaints, but what's your final solution?

 

 

[Macnamara]

2 minutes ago, RobSS said:

 

I agree, but what about the innocent people who will be persecuted and killed, who are trying to flea?

 

what happens when the cabal create a race war in the west?

[blowonthepie]

4 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

sure but that oneness has expressed itself in myriad forms to suit a varied planet

 

why do white people of european descent like hugh jackman in australia get skin cancer problems? because they aren't evolved to live there. Their ancestors were dumped there by the crown as a penal colony

 

why do black people in northern europe often have vitamin D deficiency? same reason

 

then there is culture......

 

new agey people like to quote terence mckenna about wiping clean the culture slate but this is absolutely retarded for a number of reasons

 

the first thing to understand about terence mckenna was that he appears to be a transhumanist (see his talk 'shamans amongst the machines') and transhumanists ultimately fantasise about leaving their human bodies altogether so they don't care about the practicalities of culture

 

so re the practicalities of culture: culture tends to evolve out of place. Why do sikhs wear turbans? They wear turbans because the punjab is hot and turbans help cool your head. Why do russians wear fur hats? They wear fur hats because russia is often cold and fur keeps their heads warm

 

So if you say that culture doesn't matter and that you are going to throw everything out of the window then you are saying you are going to discard everything that previous generations learned as ways to survive in your climate.....which is beyond stupid

 

Thirdly humans need roots for their wellbeing. I watched a documentary by the german filmmaker werner herzog about the people living in the taiga forest. The native people he spoke to there were drunks who did manual labour jobs because they lacked the education to do anything else and used the small amount of money they earned to buy poor quality alcohol to escape from reality. The communists had destroyed their culture to create a blank slate and as a result their connection to their ancestors and their roots had been severed. They were a people adrift in a world in which they did not feel they belonged. They had some sacred dolls which they showed herzog but they didn't understand the significance of the power items because the communists had expunged that knowledge

 

There was a fire during the filming and the dolls were lost in the fire so those people even lost their artifacts. They looked utterly dejected and broken and i would not wish the look those people had in their eyes on anyone

 

i know however that there are spiteful and malevolent people out there working to try and do exactly the same thing to me and my people

 

I know what you are saying, but if everyone realised we are all ‘one’ experiencing our own ‘little bits of life here’ then surely we would respect each other?

[Macnamara]

1 minute ago, RobSS said:

I understand your worries and complaints, but what's your final solution?

 

That's a big topic and as i told you i am compiling some notes

 

i do however have a thread discussing some ideas in the 'solutions' part of the forum called 'its a pirates life for me'. You could check that out for some ideas

[RobSS]

Just now, Macnamara said:

 

what happens when the cabal create a race war in the west?

A race war is trivial compared to Armageddon, but how are you going to stop either?