RobSS Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 Most people on this forum would probably agree there's an agenda to divide and conquer humanity. How can we learn to overcome the challenges this poses? David Icke has offered interesting observations, and given some solutions on this issue. Here's a quote from one of his Dot-Connector Videocasts (16/07/21): https://www.bitchute.com/video/RxlixrJ1xxvB/ Quote "There is a field of consciousness that connects everything, so it doesn't matter if you're black, white, Asian, Chinese, Aboriginal... it doesn't matter what your form is... you are part of the same consciousness. YOU are just a unique expression of it, and that perception that we're all connected immediately starts dropping the fault lines the cult is desperate to perpetuate, so that different versions of form can be played off against each other. You're seeing this so plainly with the cult owned BLM and all the things that go with that, where you take groups and you play them off against each other... when those groups are made up of individuals and those individuals are all part of the same consciousness, ultimately. So, the idea of the cult is to hold you in five sense perception because then, all these things that suit the cult, the way that people see the world is absolutely what unfolds from that. What they don't want is awakening people to see what others can't see... not because they're better than others, but because they've opened their mind and allowed other levels of reality in to their perceptions, and so we've reached this point now, where that is so plain, well, in-your-face doesn't even cut it. You've got the five senses asleep who just believe whatever information is fed to them. They're not processing information, they're just downloading it. They're not taking various bits of information and reaching unique conclusions, they're simply downloading their perceptions from government statements and psychopaths in the health industry. [...] So, how do we awaken? Well, for me, it's about self identity. How you see yourself dictates how you experience yourself. If you think you're little me and have no power, you'll live a life of little me and have no power, not because you're little me and have no power but because you believe you are, and therefore, you crave that reality. Your perceptions become your experience. "Nothing ever happens to me", and it never will. It's a feedback loop, while you believe nothing ever happens to you. It's a feedback loop, which the Wetiko cult wants you to perpetuate. If you want to keep people in the five senses - because that's how you can control them... because that's the only way you can control them really - then you want them to identify the "I" with the five senses. So, you give them labels... things like man, woman, black, white, this sexuality that sexuality... this income bracket that income bracket... this class that class... this age that age... you give them labels, and you tell them and encourage them to self-identify with those labels... the labels of the five senses... what I call, "phantom self", and when the "I" perceives itself only in the five senses... in the realm of the five senses, which is severe limitation or perception of it... then by self-identifying the "I" with the five senses, people become the five senses - it becomes the totality of perception of self, and therefore, they operate in a tiny narrow band of frequency... of possibility... of potential, but if you say, hold on, these labels of human society are not me... they're not the "I"... the true "I"... the infinite "I"... they are simply experiences that the infinite "I"... consciousness... is having. Then, a massive change goes on in your perception of self and your perception of everything." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 I think people just need to stop capitulating to political correctness. If people want to be part of a group or more individualistic, I don't think it should matter, all that should matter is if they live by the do no harm principle. "Political correctness is specifically designed to dismantle every cohesive pillar of human society and is doing just that. The population is so at war with itself on endless fronts that they never see the same strings controlling them all." - David Icke, Everything You Need To Know But Have Never Been Told Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSS Posted August 23, 2021 Author Share Posted August 23, 2021 I agree political correctness can be divisive. Another thing that doesn't help with racial harmony is portraying immigrants as rapists and criminals. That kind of language doesn't promote harmony. It only encourages division and racism. Would you agree with that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 6 minutes ago, RobSS said: I agree political correctness can be divisive. Another thing that doesn't help with racial harmony is portraying immigrants as rapists and criminals. That kind of language doesn't promote harmony. It only encourages division and racism. Would you agree with that? Yes, I agree. I don't like using a broad brush to say a whole group is all bad. I wouldn't like that being done to Europeans, and I don't think it's fair to say that about others either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 15 minutes ago, RobSS said: I agree political correctness can be divisive. Another thing that doesn't help with racial harmony is portraying immigrants as rapists and criminals. That kind of language doesn't promote harmony. It only encourages division and racism. Would you agree with that? some people with very malevolent intent are paying huge sums of money towards and running an international operation for flooding migrants into the west they are doing this to WEAPONISE migration they want to cause maximum harm to the west and if they can get criminals in amongst those migrants they will absolutely do that 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 harmony is not the reason why the cabal are flooding people into the west if you want more harmony then the way to achieve that is to halt the flood of people in anything else at this stage is just going to be empty words Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 there is a malevolent agenda behind all of this and it is highly organised and motivated: Fuming Priti Patel lists horrendous crimes of murderers and rapists who are STILL in Britain after 'lefty lawyers' force flight sending Jamaican serious criminals home to take off with just 13 of the 57 deportees on board Scores believed to have been hauled off at the last minute after legal challenges Campaigners had been trying to halt flight amid ongoing Windrush scandal fears Ministers insisted the flight was to remove 'dangerous foreign criminals' from UK By David Wilcock, Whitehall Correspondent For Mailonline and Press Association Published: 10:24 BST, 2 December 2020 | Updated: 17:11 BST, 2 December 2020 Priti Patel has lashed out at 'lefty lawyers' after a flight deporting serious criminals from the UK to Jamaica finally took off last night with just 13 out of 57 on board - leaving murderers and rapists behind. Scores were hauled off the plane at the last minute after legal challenges by what the Home Office said were human rights solicitors 'on the phones to judges in their pyjamas'. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9009369/Significant-number-offenders-left-deportation-flight-legal-action.html its all organised and heavily funded: The £130m migrant misery trade: SUE REID exposes the secret boat warehouses, the military planning, as well as the fortunes paid - and made. And the French cafe that's an unlikely international hub... Investigation reveals scale and professionalism of criminal trafficking network funnelling migrants into UK Secrecy key to network's success with nicknames and pseudonyms used as well as disposable burner phones Legions of rubber inflatable boats that are crossing channel are bought in bulk and collected from in Turkey Gangs guide migrants by GPS signal to precise beach locations where boats are already hidden in sand dunes By Special Investigation By Sue Reid For The Daily Mail Published: 22:02 BST, 21 July 2021 | Updated: 03:15 BST, 22 July 2021 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9811791/SUE-REID-exposes-military-planning-130m-migrant-misery-trade.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSS Posted August 23, 2021 Author Share Posted August 23, 2021 5 minutes ago, Macnamara said: harmony is not the reason why the cabal are flooding people into the west if you want more harmony then the way to achieve that is to halt the flood of people in anything else at this stage is just going to be empty words I agree and another way of promoting harmony is not to accuse immigrants of being rapists and criminals, as that only feeds into the divide and conquer agenda. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 7 minutes ago, Macnamara said: some people with very malevolent intent are paying huge sums of money towards and running an international operation for flooding migrants into the west they are doing this to WEAPONISE migration they want to cause maximum harm to the west and if they can get criminals in amongst those migrants they will absolutely do that Yep. And anyone that notices and complains about the destruction of social cohesion is then called a bigot. I have another Icke quote for that too: "Their minds can think only in groups (the new version of 'group think') as in all migrants are good and white people who complain are racists and bigots. In reality, they are the racists and bigots." - David Icke, Everything You Need To Know But Have Never Been Told 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSS Posted August 23, 2021 Author Share Posted August 23, 2021 16 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said: Yes, I agree. I don't like using a broad brush to say a whole group is all bad. I wouldn't like that being done to Europeans, and I don't think it's fair to say that about others either. Yes, thanks for your reply. That;s the main point I was trying to make in the other thread but instead I was attacked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 (edited) urbanite people go to their poxy corporate franchises in their city like starbucks and they order a coffee and they see some brown liquid come out of a machine when the barrista presses a button and they think that liquid just magically appears; they think everything just magically appears in cities because that is how it appears on the surface But it doesn't magically appear. People outside the cities grow the coffee beans and their cows produce the milk and they cut the sugar cane to make the sugar and so on and you go to other cities in other countries and you find the same corporate franchises and you look around and you think 'the people here look a bit different to me. Their skin is a different shade and maybe their faces are a slightly different shape but they all walk around staring at their smart phone just like me and they stuff their face with mcdonalds and starbucks coffee just like me' so you think 'wow we are all the same. I'm such a virtuous person. I can't understand these racist bigots that think people are different' But the coffee doesn't just magically appear. Your city is a fake reality. You live in a corporate bubble. It is not the real world. The place that the coffee beans and milk and sugar comes from is the real world and in the real world there is diversity and that is a good thing, it is a natural thing Edited August 23, 2021 by Macnamara 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSS Posted August 23, 2021 Author Share Posted August 23, 2021 8 minutes ago, Macnamara said: urbanite people go to their poxy corporate franchises in their city like starbucks and they order a coffee and they see some brown liquid come out of a machine when the barrista presses a button and they think that liquid just magically appears it doesn' magically appear. People outside the cities grow the coffee beans and their cows produce the milk and they cut the sugar cane to make the sugar and so on and you go to other cities in other countries and you find the same corporate franchises and you look around and you think 'the people here look a bit different to me. Their skin is a different shade and maybe their faces are a slightly different shape but they all walk around staring at their smart phone just like me and they stuff their face with mcdonalds and starbucks coffee just like me' so you think 'wow we are all the same. I'm such a virtuous person. I can't understand these racist bigots that think people are different' But the coffee doesn't just magically appear. Your city is a fake reality. You live in a corporate bubble. It is not the real world. The place that the coffee beans and milk and sugar comes from is the real world When you use the word "urbanites", does that mean you have a thing against all people that live in a city? I'm not sure what you're trying to say exactly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Macnamara said: urbanite people go to their poxy corporate franchises in their city like starbucks and they order a coffee and they see some brown liquid come out of a machine when the barrista presses a button and they think that liquid just magically appears; they think everything just magically appears in cities because that is how it appears on the surface But it doesn't magically appear. People outside the cities grow the coffee beans and their cows produce the milk and they cut the sugar cane to make the sugar and so on and you go to other cities in other countries and you find the same corporate franchises and you look around and you think 'the people here look a bit different to me. Their skin is a different shade and maybe their faces are a slightly different shape but they all walk around staring at their smart phone just like me and they stuff their face with mcdonalds and starbucks coffee just like me' so you think 'wow we are all the same. I'm such a virtuous person. I can't understand these racist bigots that think people are different' But the coffee doesn't just magically appear. Your city is a fake reality. You live in a corporate bubble. It is not the real world. The place that the coffee beans and milk and sugar comes from is the real world and in the real world there is diversity and that is a good thing, it is a natural thing Agreed. You have articulated how I feel better than I could. I think a lot of the problem is that people have been sold a fake inverted version of diversity. Herding everyone into urban areas and trying to create some global homogenized people doesn't seem like true diversity of peoples to me. I want to go to different parts of the world and experience different cultures and what makes them unique. The world would be boring if different groups were the same. That's not saying that different cultures might not have some bad aspects that they/we need to deal with so we can live in harmony, obviously not, just that I want to preserve diversity. Edited August 23, 2021 by EnigmaticWorld 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 (edited) 12 minutes ago, RobSS said: When you use the word "urbanites", does that mean you have a thing against all people that live in a city? I'm not sure what you're trying to say exactly. i believe cities have a dehumanising effect on people by disconnecting them from reality this then becomes a big problem for the rest of humanity because 'democracy' as people understand it today is rule by the majority so if there are large amounts of people living in an environment that is disconnected from reality constantly imposing their democratic will on the rest of humanity that is going to cause problems it is like a spotty teenager whose grown up playing computer games being given a uniform and a job by the military and asked to kill people using drones remotely. There is a disconnect between what they do in their day to day lives and the real world consequences that their actions then have out of sight; the disconnect has a dehumanising effect Edited August 23, 2021 by Macnamara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSS Posted August 23, 2021 Author Share Posted August 23, 2021 Just now, Macnamara said: i believe cities have a dehumanising effect on people by disconnecting them from reality this then becomes a big problem for the rest of humanity because 'democracy' as people understand it today is rule by the majority so if there are large amounts of people living in an environment that is disconnected from reality constantly imposing their democratic will on the rest of humanity that is going to cause problems it is like a spotty teenager whose grown up playing computer games being given a uniform and a job by the military and asked to kill people using drones remotely. There is a disconnect between what they do in their day to day lives and the real world consequences that their actions then have out of sight A city can have a dehumanising effect on some people, just like loneliness can have a dehumanising effect on some people who live in very rural areas, etc. I try not to male sweeping generalisations about groups of people. I take each person as I find them, as an individual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 There is nothing wrong with people that live in a city, and people obviously can't always help where they live, but I think modern cities are pretty unhealthy. You're taken away from nature and living around glass and steel monstrocities. I don't like all the advertising everywhere either. It all feels so artificial. That's something that is not unique to Europe though. People all over the world suffer from postmodernist city environments that separate them from nature. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSS Posted August 23, 2021 Author Share Posted August 23, 2021 4 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said: Agreed. You have articulated how I feel better than I could. I think a lot of the problem is that people have been sold a fake inverted version of diversity. Herding everyone into urban areas and trying to create some global homogenized people doesn't seem like true diversity of peoples to me. I want to go to different parts of the world and experience different cultures and what makes them unique. The world would be boring if groups were the same. That's not saying that different cultures might not have some bad aspects that they/we need to deal with so we can live in harmony, obviously not, just that I want to preserve diversity. There are good and bad things in all cultures, and racism, which I detest, can occur within any nationality and race, of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said: I think a lot of the problem is that people have been sold a fake inverted version of diversity. Herding everyone into urban areas and trying to create some global homogenized people doesn't seem like true diversity of peoples to me. I want to go to different parts of the world and experience different cultures and what makes them unique. The world would be boring if groups were the same. i've been around the world and lived, laughed and loved with people of all skin shades i've enjoyed experiencing their cultures and learned about their beliefs and histories i don't see differences as a shameful thing. If an inuit isn't physiologically suited to being in a desert and a tuareg isn't physiologically suited to being in the arctic that is not something shameful that we should pretend doesn't exist. Instead we should see humanity holistically as part of nature that has adapted to exist on a varied planet People haven't just adapted physiologically for different places they have adapted culturally for different climates That is the wonder of humanity. This idea that we should all be mixed together and standardised as if we are corporate products that can just be remoulded into a bland mass produced and mass replicated product is anti-nature imo 9 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said: That's not saying that different cultures might not have some bad aspects that they/we need to deal with so we can live in harmony, obviously not, just that I want to preserve diversity. clearly there are people who are setting out to destroy diversity around the world in order to replace everything with the same standardised corporate blandness it is an archontic, machine-like agenda Edited August 23, 2021 by Macnamara 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSS Posted August 23, 2021 Author Share Posted August 23, 2021 Just now, EnigmaticWorld said: There is nothing wrong with people that live in a city, and people obviously can't always help where they live, but I think modern cities are pretty unhealthy. You're taken away from nature and living around glass and steel monstrocities. I don't like all the advertising everywhere either. It all feels so artificial. That's something that is not unique to Europe though. People all over the world suffer from postmodernist city environments that separate them from nature. Well, I have seen some people who live in a city who look more fit and wonderfully healthy than many living in the country, and vice versa, of course! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSS Posted August 23, 2021 Author Share Posted August 23, 2021 Can we please try to keep this thread about how we can find harmony, rather than constantly looking for divisions? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 (edited) 11 minutes ago, RobSS said: A city can have a dehumanising effect on some people, just like loneliness can have a dehumanising effect on some people who live in very rural areas, etc. I try not to male sweeping generalisations about groups of people. I take each person as I find them, as an individual. if you can't....at this point of history....see the spread of the corporatocracy and how it is remoulding our world into a techocracy then perhaps you have already fallen victim to this condition i am trying to describe Edited August 23, 2021 by Macnamara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSS Posted August 23, 2021 Author Share Posted August 23, 2021 Just now, Macnamara said: if you can't....at this point of history....see the spread of corporatism and how it is remoulding our world then perhaps you have already fallen victim to this condition i am trying to describe Where have I said that I haven't seen the spread of corporatism? I haven't and what has it got to do with the subject of this thread? This thread is for posters who genuinely want to find solutions to the problems of racism and social division. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, RobSS said: This thread is for posters who genuinely want to find solutions to the problems of racism and social division. i am outlining what the problem is....a perception problem do you hear the growers of coffee beans harping on about critical race theory? No it all comes out of that fake corporate bubble that i'm talking about https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQQH_A9qVgs Edited August 23, 2021 by Macnamara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSS Posted August 23, 2021 Author Share Posted August 23, 2021 1 minute ago, Macnamara said: i am outlining what the problem is....a perception problem do you hear the growers of coffee beans harping on about critical race theory? No it all comes out of that fake corporate bubble that i'm talking about https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQQH_A9qVgs Could you please post the problems elsewhere? This thread is for solutions, thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 5 minutes ago, RobSS said: Could you please post the problems elsewhere? This thread is for solutions, thanks! the solution is born out of seeing what the problem is 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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