20th Anniversay

[Hegel Schmegel]

On 8/28/2022 at 6:27 PM, Golden Retriever said:

 

No

 

Because many Jews and Zionists who should have been in the World Trade Centre that day were told not to go near

the place and escaped death. Others were there as spectators.

 

That 9/11 theory gratuitously spun out of whole cloth has been long ago & easily proven by several unbiased, independent 9/11 investigators as nothing more than a legend -- anti-Israel propaganda, promulgated by the familiar Islamist groups, and used among other things as a decoy to divert attention away from the real culprits.

[Golden Retriever]

On 8/28/2022 at 11:59 PM, Hegel Schmegel said:

In Deborah Lipstadt's excellent book Antisemitism, in the chapter entitled "A Cognitive Failure,"

 

I'm out of here!

 

Didn't Ms Lipstadt promote the lampshade hoax.

[Golden Retriever]

8 hours ago, Hegel Schmegel said:

 

That 9/11 theory gratuitously spun out of whole cloth has been long ago & easily proven by several unbiased, independent 9/11 investigators as nothing more than a legend -- anti-Israel propaganda, promulgated by the familiar Islamist groups, and used among other things as a decoy to divert attention away from the real culprits.

 

 

Can your give forum members some evidence of your claim?

[Hegel Schmegel]

On 8/30/2022 at 7:49 AM, Golden Retriever said:

 

 

Can your give forum members some evidence of your claim?

 

In retrospect, perhaps proven is not the correct word; dismissed may be more accurate.

 

Over the past twenty years, whenever I've looked into the events of 9/11 (in a strictly personal-interest capacity) my studies have shown that this 'Jews-missing-from-towers' theory has more than often been dismissed by these (largely North American-based) investigators as the to-be-expected anti-Israel rhetoric it is, or is omitted from their mentioning altogether, as most of the 9/11 investigators I've come across have seemed to feel -- based on all the far more substantial evidence pointing elsewhere -- that this claim is worth a mere passing footnote only, if that at all.

 

Supposing for a moment, however, its truth, were this so it would certainly make for a rather odd curiosity, when you consider that it's been said of the Sabbatian death cult that they are just as much against Jewish people as they are the rest of humanity. So then, a) why would they tip off the Jews in the towers and b) when causing death and destruction is said to be what delights them most?

 

Ah, but I've always sensed a euphemism whenever 'Sabbatian' is used by those into exposing this cult and here the veil appears to come off. We're back at the ages-old, tired cliche that the 'Jews did it' are we?

 

With that being said, I am all open to the possibility of Israeli intelligence behind 9/11, but only if the evidence is solid and substantial, as opposed to a pathological wanting this to be so mental approach, on account of long, deeply-held, incorrigible anti-Israel biases.

 

Many Muslims danced in the streets in response to the 9/11 attacks. A few Israelis are reported doing the same and somehow this proves Israel's involvement.

 

As for there being Israeli spectators, I'm not sure exactly what this is meant to prove, if anything. There were many spectators 'live in person' during the events of 9/11, among them probably representatives from all sorts of faiths; atheists, secularists, whomever.; NYC is a densely populated area, after all. That a few Israelis/Jews would be there at the time of 9/11 is not the least bit unusual, and definitely not an indication of something conspiratorial going on.

 

Then there's the other one about a group of Israelis taken in for questioning what with their conveniently having been found to be there at 9/11. If these were indeed Mossad agents or other Israeli operatives of some kind, the fact they allowed their presence to be known doesn't seem in keeping with a competent and skilled intelligence agency. If this were any other MSM story, all these same people would be immediately screaming, "impostors!," "actors!" "fake news!," as with the Paris 2015 Charlie Hebdo tragedy and the 2005 London '7/7' attacks.

 

My naming of 9/11 investigators who haven't taken the 'Jews-missing-from-towers' story seriously would be futile in the face of such adamant preconceived notions. Why, even the simple act of one's referring to respected sources, authors who incidentally are Jewish is enough for many on this forum to instantaneously dismiss as information not the least bit credible.

 

I do recall, however, an author by the name of Scott Shay (who has written an excellent book titled Conspiracy U), although not a 9/11 investigator, being on Skeptiko and about midway through the episode one or two of these anti-Israel theories being raised/discussed. It was one of the more important topics/issues that Skeptiko has addressed, which is why I think I remember it.

[Macnamara]

Chris Bollyn: Israel behind the 9-11 attacks-- and Iraq wars.

 

[Macnamara]

larry silverstein not at work in the towers that day because his wife remembered he had an appointment with his dermatologist

 

 

[EnigmaticWorld]

'A businessman named Moti Shniberg actually tried to trademark the term "September 11, 2001." And he wasted no time doing so — Shniberg filed his application on that very day, as the Twin Towers and Pentagon were still smoldering. '

https://gizmodo.com/someone-tried-to-trademark-the-term-september-11-2001-1606092222

[legion]

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