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A US woman who alleges she was brought to the UK aged 17 to have sex with the Duke of York has filed a civil lawsuit in New York claiming he abused her.

Virginia Giuffre, who was an accuser of convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein, claims she was sexually assaulted by Prince Andrew in London and New York.

Prince Andrew has consistently denied Ms Giuffre's claims.

Ms Giuffre's lawsuit cites New York's Child Victims Act, which expanded victims' rights to sue alleged abusers.

Speaking about Ms Giuffre's allegations in 2019, Prince Andrew said they "never happened". 

"It didn't happen. I can absolutely categorically tell you it never happened. I have no recollection of ever meeting this lady, none whatsoever," he told BBC Newsnight.

In a later statement, Prince Andrew said: "I continue to unequivocally regret my ill-judged association with Jeffrey Epstein.

"His suicide has left many unanswered questions, particularly for his victims, and I deeply sympathise with everyone who has been affected and wants some form of closure. 

"I can only hope that, in time, they will be able to rebuild their lives. Of course, I am willing to help any appropriate law enforcement agency with their investigations, if required."

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According to this article they are going to ask the court to get the case thrown out on the basis of not following the protocol when serving a paper.

This sounds BS to me. Any heavy duty lawyer will know how to serve a paper. This is like undergraduate level, even likes of me, you and joe blogg can find out easily how to.

Basically, they should have sent it via a courier or recorded delivery and get a signature. Don't go giving it to a cleaner, door security etc....

So it looks like Virginia has been stiched up with her lawyer who is on the side of Royals.

Legal system is just as dirty as financial system.

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2 hours ago, DaleP said:

^ Huh? ?


“If you’re a man it is a positive act to have sex with somebody. You have to … take some sort of positive action and so therefore if you try to forget it’s very difficult to try and forget a positive action and I do not remember anything.”



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It was the police who took the letter, it doesn't matter if the envelope isn't taken, it can be dropped at someone's feet or land on a doormat then be ripped up. They stood no chance of getting near Andrew, they would have been quickly put in the restraint position with a Glock at the back of their necks if they tried to get close to him.

The courts have ways of starting proceedings without even sending a letter especially when they don't want to give you a fair chance to prepare your case.

They have ways to "send" letters which are then legally deemed to be in your possession even if you don't receive them, that is his mother's own system!

So Andrews claims are lies.

The royal family is relying on their best defence, ignoring everything, cursory denials and diminishments, and making sure that Andrew doesn't set foot in any country with extradition treaties with the US.

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From that BBC article linked to in the OP:


Ms Giuffre's legal action is a civil case filed by a private party for monetary damages, as opposed to a criminal case filed by the state.

Arick Fudali, a partner at New York legal firm Bloom, which has represented nine of Epstein's victims, told BBC Radio 4's Today programme that "very few" of such cases ended up going to trial but there was a "small chance" this could.

The alternatives are that it is settled beforehand, it is struck out by a judge, or the complainant ceases the action.

Melissa Murray, professor of law at New York University, said Prince Andrew "could be on the hook for significant money damages".

"This is not about whether or not Prince Andrew will go to jail - he has no criminal exposure from this particular case," she told the BBC.

Asked how likely it was that the case would to go to trial, she said Prince Andrew's team would probably be more worried that it comes at a "really unfortunate time", as Ms Maxwell is due to stand trial in November.

She has pleaded not guilty to federal charges that she conspired with Epstein in the abuse of four under-age girls.

Prof Murray said: "With this civil suit pending and her about to go to trial on these criminal charges, there may be even more pressure - and indeed temptation - for her to co-operate with federal prosecutors and perhaps provide more information about all of the individuals who were in the orbit of Jeffrey Epstein and that could, allegedly, include the prince himself."

This will never go to trial. Not wanting to piss on her chips, but this is all about money really. Otherwise why not pursue the 'criminal case'?


Looking at the 'alternatives' presented:

"it is settled beforehand" - the Windsors could just quietly settle out of court, its not like they're short of a few bob, and then hope this all 'goes away'. But still, it would be seen as some 'admission of guilt', and the Windsors would never stand for that.

"it is struck out by a judge" - even in the US, the judicary are corrupted, compromised and controlled by freemasons and Common Purpose 'change agents', with the Queen being the head of freemasonry, the judge could easily be 'asked nicely' to dismiss the case.

"the complainant ceases the action" - this is probably the most likely outcome, and it could end up quite sinister. Ms Giuffre might want to avoid accepting lifts from strangers etc...



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1 hour ago, Shy Talk said:

didnt expect the met to follow up on it. they throw out anything royal/politician pedo related anyway


Andrew, 61, still faces civil lawsuit in the US after Ms Giuffre accused him of 'rape in the first degree'

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