skitzorat Posted July 19, 2022 Share Posted July 19, 2022 The Shopping Cart Theory: the Ultimate Litmus Test for Whether Someone is Capable of Self-Governing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted July 19, 2022 Author Share Posted July 19, 2022 3 minutes ago, skitzorat said: The Shopping Cart Theory: the Ultimate Litmus Test for Whether Someone is Capable of Self-Governing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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sock muppet Posted July 19, 2022 Share Posted July 19, 2022 2 hours ago, skitzorat said: The Shopping Cart Theory: the Ultimate Litmus Test for Whether Someone is Capable of Self-Governing. What a load of BOLLOXS, this anon is clueless and stupid, because if everyone never returned the shopping cart, they would start putting locks on them and use your money as a security item to first unlock them and second make you lock it back up to get your money back, everyone is capable of self governance for things they love/care about and shopping carts only enter the conscious space when shopping. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sock muppet Posted July 19, 2022 Share Posted July 19, 2022 2 hours ago, skitzorat said: If the image is of Notre Dame Cathedral then there exists a symbolic ritual incorporating 666 as to why it happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted July 20, 2022 Author Share Posted July 20, 2022 (edited) 19 hours ago, sock muppet said: What a load of BOLLOXS, this anon is clueless and stupid, because if everyone never returned the shopping cart, they would start putting locks on them and use your money as a security item to first unlock them and second make you lock it back up to get your money back, everyone is capable of self governance for things they love/care about and shopping carts only enter the conscious space when shopping. People still leave carts with a £1 in though. I think the point is that we would have a bigger issue than being charged a deposit for carts if nobody returned them, as we would know that society is full of selfish uncivilized reprobates, and that would obviously have bigger implications than just buying groceries. Edited July 20, 2022 by EnigmaticWorld 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bamboozooka Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 (edited) who hasnt stood feet away from the trolley canopy and hurled the trolley to try and dock it with another one Edited July 20, 2022 by bamboozooka 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sock muppet Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 14 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said: People still leave carts with a £1 in though. I think the point is that we would have a bigger issue than being charged a deposit for carts if nobody returned them, as we would know that society is full of selfish uncivilized reprobates, and that would obviously have bigger implications than just buying groceries. I was just pointing out that the anon could have picked a better analogy to get the point across about self governance and civic responsibility, and that will never happen in a world where you are continually being disenfranchised from by a government that is quite happy to have double standards and boat loads of hypocrisy and speaks with fork tongue dragon language following political philosophical nonsense and then blames everyone else as ignorant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sock muppet Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 3 minutes ago, bamboozooka said: who hasnt stood feet away from the trolley canopy and hurled the trolley to try and dock it with another one Ponds and rivers works best for me especially when a slope is in involved and me in it, GERONIMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bamboozooka Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 10 minutes ago, sock muppet said: Ponds and rivers works best for me especially when a slope is in involved and me in it, GERONIMO. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 17 minutes ago, bamboozooka said: who hasnt stood feet away from the trolley canopy and hurled the trolley to try and dock it with another one Always Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sock muppet Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 1 minute ago, bamboozooka said: Sigh it does bring a tear to my eye at the fun we had so many years ago, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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EnigmaticWorld Posted July 21, 2022 Author Share Posted July 21, 2022 22 hours ago, sock muppet said: and that will never happen in a world where you are continually being disenfranchised from by a government Could happen if we actually dealt with the occupiers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted July 21, 2022 Author Share Posted July 21, 2022 You don't appreciate Lady MAGA and LGBT Trump? What a bigot! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Youknownothingbutyou Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 (edited) On 7/20/2022 at 7:27 AM, sock muppet said: I was just pointing out that the anon could have picked a better analogy to get the point across about self governance and civic responsibility, and that will never happen in a world where you are continually being disenfranchised from by a government that is quite happy to have double standards and boat loads of hypocrisy and speaks with fork tongue dragon language following political philosophical nonsense and then blames everyone else as ignorant. You were right, that anon post is shockingly absurd. Id argue people who must return their shopping carts each time are ocd, anal and love to be told what to do Our elite in this society sells us pharma drugs that are dangerous and useless, all for profit, yet what the sheep care about is if YOU are a good citizen? Edited July 21, 2022 by Youknownothingbutyou Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nefaria Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 On 7/20/2022 at 12:23 PM, bamboozooka said: who hasnt stood feet away from the trolley canopy and hurled the trolley to try and dock it with another one That's the way i have always returned a trolley! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nefaria Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 On 7/20/2022 at 12:02 PM, EnigmaticWorld said: People still leave carts with a £1 in though. I think the point is that we would have a bigger issue than being charged a deposit for carts if nobody returned them, as we would know that society is full of selfish uncivilized reprobates, and that would obviously have bigger implications than just buying groceries. I know people that make little plastic disks that fit in those holes so they never have to worry about having a £1 coin on them or even worry about returning the trolley! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 On 6/13/2022 at 7:35 AM, EnigmaticWorld said: but where does it end? This constant stream of people into these small islands....how does that end? It can end in one of only two ways: 1. rapid collapse of society leading to violence, martial law and a total lockdown society 2. slow collapse into crisis which the globalist oligarchs then offer their solution out of: complete enslavement under a technocracy I see no happy outcome and if the neo-marxist, useful idiots, of this agenda are dreaming of some sort of socialist utopia beyond the current paradigm they are deluding themselves; that isn't and never was the intention of the globalist oligarchs. Their intention is technocracy which means the enslavement of the workers under a centralised, elitist dictatorship. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 On 7/19/2022 at 2:16 PM, skitzorat said: The Shopping Cart Theory: the Ultimate Litmus Test for Whether Someone is Capable of Self-Governing. the answer is actually deeper than that but no one will like it because it requires extra work and effort the answer is to NOT shop at corporate supermarkets and instead to buy fresh produce from local growers or even better grow your own; yes its less convenient but no one said freedom comes with no responsibility or effort the corporations ARE the problem. The solution then is to build a parallel system outside the corporate system that will then outgrow and eclipse the corporate system thereby peacefully changing the world without a single shot fired and no one hurt. 'Not possible' i hear you say! ''its only impossible if you stop to think about it'' - The pirate captain 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted July 21, 2022 Author Share Posted July 21, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Macnamara said: how does that end? Bloodshed. If you're told that it's evil for your group to be tribal but at the same time other groups are allowed to be, you just become a doormat. Look at this excerpt from this recent article about Denmark for example: https://www.zerohedge.com/political/denmark-start-demolishing-parts-migrant-ghettos I agree with that, but they shouldn't need 87 studies to state the obvious. A society where people have more in common with each other will obviously have more social cohesion. The "I don't see colour" crowd operate on this naive assumption that people are not tribal though, but most people have in-group preference with the exception of deracinated white Liberals. With elites making our quality of life worse each day, people will become even more tribal as they fight for scraps and their place in the pecking order. The average Liberal progressive that cheers this on has no idea what kind of dangerous society they're helping create. To them diversity means nice foreign cuisine, or more choice when it comes to sleezy Tinder hookup culture. Or they just straight up insult your intelligence and say shit like "but who will pick the fruit", as if we wouldn't pick our own fruit if it was a choice between that or becoming a hated minority in our own homeland. It's only because most people don't know they're becoming a minority that stupid excuses like that fly. I still remember a lot of the British public being surveyed and asked whether they want to become a minority, and the majority said no. We have absolutely no voice, but many also don't know we have no voice. Edited July 21, 2022 by EnigmaticWorld 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted July 21, 2022 Author Share Posted July 21, 2022 https://archive.nytimes.com/www.nytimes.com/interactive/2012/06/22/us/first-lady-family-q-and-a.html#/%237#7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skitzorat Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 First things first, I will admit when I posted this I had no idea that I would have to start any reply with definitions. Not to be a sarcastic snide kvnt here myself, but a little 101 is obviously required even though I had assumed it was blatantly self-evident! On 7/20/2022 at 3:42 AM, sock muppet said: What a load of BOLLOXS, this anon is clueless and stupid, It's not a load of bolloxs, the fact it went right over your head is on par with your weirdly offtopic stupid "Melina Trump is the Grand daughter of the Romanov Princess" Q-tard reply to my post in the jewish page about the 104th anniversary of the jewish bolsehvik slaughter of the Russian Royal family. On 7/20/2022 at 3:42 AM, sock muppet said: because if everyone never returned the shopping cart, they would start putting locks on them and use your money as a security item to first unlock them and second make you lock it back up to get your money back, Many places DO put locks and coins on carts these days because of the rapid decline in Western societies morality. I'm not even old but they never used to be a thing not even that long ago, it would have been unthought of because everyone put the cart back. It was an unspoke respectful thing - think of the hassle your laziness or shear arrogance causes your fellow citizens, damage to their cars - a mess and a shit hole of a carpark area - hazards and potential injuries, extra work for the minimum wage kid that has to continuously non-stop put the carts back in their bays. I wasn't raised as a snob, but if I was out with my parents when I was a kid and *theoretically* we were to witness some trashy person just abandoned their cart and drive off after its use leaving it in the middle of the driving area, they would get a scornful look of disapproval from most adults and "a teachable moment for the child" on how NOT to behave - just as a child *should* get the same scornful energy for wonton dropping of litter on the street. It's basic manners. Western cultures has rapidly lost these and is in decline, encouraging even more "not giving a shit" because noone else gives a shit... and our cities and many "nice" areas that arent so much now. On 7/20/2022 at 3:42 AM, sock muppet said: everyone is capable of self governance for things they love/care about and shopping carts only enter the conscious space when shopping. No. Everyone is NOT capable of self-governance at all - because they dont "love/care" about their community because we've been deracinated as a peoples. - if you havent noticed, our societies have crumbled in a very short amount of time, and it started before the covid BS. Go right ahead, drop litter whereever the f you want, spit in the street, push people out the way on a crowded footpath, dont stand up on public transport for old ladies or pregnant woman. Hell - dob your neighbour in to the government covid hotline because they're in their own backyard without a mask on. The shopping cart is not the deeper issue, but even so, why should you feel so entitled to just "do whatever" and leave your cart in a place that is obviously going to cause inconvenience to someone else coming along - is that liberating? I bet it's not liberating when you're driving into a car park of the supermarket and some lazy kvnt has left their cart and driven off and it's rolled and smashed your indicator light, or perhaps instead of being able to just drive into the park itself, you had to get out and move the cart first, and the arse end of your car is halfway in the roadway holding up all the other cars... it's also pissing down with rain....are you going to honestly say you wouldn't find that urksome and you wouldn't curse that stranger under your breath? 1 hour ago, Youknownothingbutyou said: You were right, that anon post is shockingly absurd. Why 1 hour ago, Youknownothingbutyou said: Id argue people who must return their shopping carts each time are ocd, anal and love to be told what to do I'd argue people never used to feel as if they MUST return the cart, it was just an unconscious thing one did/does - and everyone did it. Just as one covers ones mouth if you need to suddenly feel a sneeze coming on in a public place. Sneezers and spitters and nose-pickers in public is fuking gross and worthy of public scorn! - and nothing to do with covid/virus hoax either. Not so long ago infantile selfish behaviour was publicly called out - until "youths" started beating elderly people up for doing so and young-ish parents suddenly let their little kids run wild in cafes, annoying other customers while the mums gasbag about their twitter feeds and tiktok. Nothing mentally ill about order and cleanliness and mutual respect that built our once high-trust communities. 1 hour ago, Youknownothingbutyou said: Our elite in this society sells us pharma drugs that are dangerous and useless, all for profit, yet what the sheep care about is if YOU are a good citizen? The simple point is, again, I thought it was quite obvious, that YOU cared that YOU are a good citizen - that should be a morality in of itself, nothing to do with "elites" of drugs or even God, just good character for it's own sake builds it's own neuro pharmaceutical dopamine reward pathway in the brain. One cares about ones own behaviour in the community you share with your fellow mankind.. it's a mutually beneficial relationship that has worked for us Europeans for centuries as we together made wonderful safe communities. And public scorn - someone in the stocks in the middle of the village for public mokery seemed to straighten people out. But indeed you are correct - we are being destroyed by the sheep who are the collaborators of our moral plunge. I mean, who cares if the schools are openly getting kids to read filthy porn - I personally don't even have kids so why should i care?! Perhaps your kids are all grown up now so its of no concern to you either? I mean, I don't even bother to return my shopping trolley to the shopping trolley bay once I'm done with it because I can't even be bothered and fvk the next person who comes along. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted July 21, 2022 Author Share Posted July 21, 2022 (edited) If you can't expect people to do the most basic things that make our lives easier, how can you depend on them for important matters? I don't get why that's so hard to understand. Then again, we're dealing with people that don't want society to take responsibility, they wan't some imaginary white hats to come and fix things, or they at least want us to believe that someone is taking care of our problems. Edited July 21, 2022 by EnigmaticWorld 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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