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13 hours ago, zArk said:

well that CGI is completely disingenuous

 

It simply proves an obvious point about your outer regions of the flatliner map_____________________________

 

No matter what time of year.😂🤭🤦‍♂️

 

13 hours ago, zArk said:

 

heres a proper rendition 😂 of the spread and reach of light.

i think the yinyang light spread is pretty much the correct display

 

n.b i think the actual map is weird

 

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 Ive corrected it for you. Easily verifiable, go on aby long haul plane journey,🤦‍♂️ How big is the sun on the flerth model again??🤥

 

sunmap.php?iso=20211102T2024

13 hours ago, zArk said:

 

Hows about we all think about why the Antarctic is so cold compared to the Artic.

 

Considering the Helio model both receive similar time in the Sun due to the tilt

 

 

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Antarctic Average temp -49* C

Arctic Average temp -5*C

The Antarctic is land Arctic ice.

 

How does Falkland Islands have 16 hours sun in December, same as Southern New Zealand & 16 hours dark in June.

 Same as all the base of the southern hemisphere.

 

Answer the question without silly images.

 

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https://24timezones.com/timezone-map

 

https://www.worldtimezone.com/

 

https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/sunearth.html

 

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On 11/1/2021 at 2:16 PM, zArk said:

please post the images from each position on earth so we can compare

n.b i assume you mean the turn of the moon because we both know there is only one 'face of the moon'

 

 

Well what a surprise, zArk the flat earther refuses to budge on THE most obvious of things! At any given latitude the view of the Moon is the same all around the planet!

 

The view of the Moon from South America:

The moon view of South America (Brazil) - A lua vista da América do Sul Art Print by Cristiano Antunes | Society6

 

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An African Moon - Makweti - a little further South

 

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Moonrise, Moonset, and Moon Phase in South Africa (timeanddate.com)

Moonrise, Moonset, and Moon Phase in Brasilia (timeanddate.com)

 

Both visible at the same time, both the same face and 4,750 apart.

 

Let's make it more absurd for a flat earth 

 

Argentina

 

Australia the SAME VIEW!

What time is the Pink Moon in April 2021 in Australia? The spectacular supermoon lights up the sky | Sunrise (7news.com.au)

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So Argentina Moon sets at 02/11/2021 - 16:08 (-03) that is 13:08 GMT

Perth Australia rises at 02/11/2021 - 03:44 (AWST +8) that is 11:44 GMT

 

Now how about you explain THAT! Both the same view visible simultaneously - that is somebody standing in Brazil sees the Moon an hour before it magically disappears(!) at the same time as somebody standing in Perth just as it magically appears(!). From West to East as the Moon travels by some unknown magical flaterf mechanism, the distance is well over 9,000 miles.

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32 minutes ago, peter said:

avoidance again, ok taking perspective ( standing on the shore looking out to see ) and convergence etc into account how far are we able to see a ship with the naked eye before it disappears over your non existent horizon

I hope that's clear enough

peter what are you getting at? whats your point?

 

the average eye sight distance is something you can search up quite easily, no point in asking me.

 

 

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7 minutes ago, oddsnsods said:

 

 Ive corrected it for you. Easily verifiable, go on aby long haul plane journey,🤦‍♂️ How big is the sun on the flerth model again??🤥

 

sunmap.php?iso=20211102T2024

 

 

 

but we know that diagram is not entirely correct as it wrong shows Antarctica in 24hr sun

yet the yinyang sun / darkness is exactly the same albeit transposed upon a 2d rendition of a globe earth

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1 hour ago, zArk said:

 

 

but we know that diagram is not entirely correct as it wrong shows Antarctica in 24hr sun

yet the yinyang sun / darkness is exactly the same albeit transposed upon a 2d rendition of a globe earth

 

No because the earth tilts on its axis & we live on a spinning ball..makes perfect sense, unlike any of your krap theories & pisses all over the Flatliner map Willow the whisp miniature light bulb.

 

How does Falkland Islands have 16 hours sun in December, same as Southern New Zealand & 16 hours dark in June.

Same as all the base of the southern hemisphere.

 

Surely some flat earther can answer this obvious question for their map they post on here all the time.

 

The "muh flat" cult on this forum.

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25 minutes ago, zArk said:

peter what are you getting at? whats your point?

 

the average eye sight distance is something you can search up quite easily, no point in asking me.

 

 

It must be an inconvenient question ,avoidance personified strikes again

 

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19 minutes ago, oddsnsods said:

No because the earth tilts on its axis & we live on a spinning ball..makes perfect sense, unlike any of your krap theories & pisses all over the Flatliner map Willow the whisp miniature light bulb.

 

that is what you believe in spite of the lack of curve.

 

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2 minutes ago, oddsnsods said:

 

 

 

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if you want an answer to your questions please ask one and wait for the answer. posting a barrage of questions and demanding a response to every one of them immediately is silly

 

i am eating some supper, watching the footie, brushing the kids teeth, reading an internet forum, speaking to a friend on the phone, taking in the shopping , tidying away the kids shoes, clothes, books and i will grant you my attention as soon as real life settles down

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1 hour ago, oddsnsods said:

So Argentina Moon sets at 02/11/2021 - 16:08 (-03) that is 13:08 GMT

Perth Australia rises at 02/11/2021 - 03:44 (AWST +8) that is 11:44 GMT

 

Now how about you explain THAT! Both the same view visible simultaneously - that is somebody standing in Brazil sees the Moon an hour before it magically disappears(!) at the same time as somebody standing in Perth just as it magically appears(!). From West to East as the Moon travels by some unknown magical flaterf mechanism, the distance is well over 9,000 miles.

 

 

i think Perth Australia at 03:44am is around 7:44pm the previous day at UK if as you write 'from west to east as the Moon travels'

or do you wish to Move the time zone east to west for Perth to GMT but keep it west to east for Argentina to GMT?

 

So Argentina Moon sets at 16:08 that is (east to west) 7.08pm GMT the previous day

 

Can you be consistent please?

 

 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, oddsnsods said:

How does Falkland Islands have 16 hours sun in December, same as Southern New Zealand & 16 hours dark in June.

Same as all the base of the southern hemisphere.

 

Surely some flat earther can answer this obvious question for their map they post on here all the time.

 

because you think the Falkland islands is at the same radius from the centre of our earth plane than New Zealand?

To be clear after a little search i read that New Zealand is 15 hours dark in June

Falkland islands are 16 hours dark in June

and 15.5 hrs Sun NZ in December

while its 16.5 Sun in December

 

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1 hour ago, zArk said:

 

because you think the Falkland islands is at the same radius from the centre of our earth plane than New Zealand?

To be clear after a little search i read that New Zealand is 15 hours dark in June

Falkland islands are 16 hours dark in June

and 15.5 hrs Sun NZ in December

while its 16.5 Sun in December

 

 

I thought that was part of the big globe lie.🤥

 

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Southern NZ is 15.5 & Campbell Islands 16.

 

OF course is not possible on your flat map, as they are at opposites & that would make the earth permanently in day light or dArKnEss in our summer.

 

Truth will set you free, when you face reality.

 

 

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7 hours ago, oddsnsods said:

 

I thought that was part of the big globe lie.🤥

 

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Southern NZ is 15.5 & Campbell Islands 16.

 

OF course is not possible on your flat map, as they are at opposites & that would make the earth permanently in day light or dArKnEss in our summer.

 

Truth will set you free, when you face reality.

 

 

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DayLight is a yinyang shape, not circular

 

 

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On 10/31/2021 at 8:54 PM, zArk said:

not strictly FE however it is related as the speed of light is one of the fundamentals to Heliocentrism

 

very interesting tug-of-war.

 

 

 

 

@peter @oddsnsods

 

care to speculate on the tug-o-war ?

 

@peter

a man at earth is holding the end of a pole 

another man is at the sun holding the other end of the extremely long incredibly light and strong pole

when earth man pulls the pole how long does it take for the other end to move?

 

[speed of light is fastest and takes 8 mins to reach earth]

 

does the sun end move immediately?

is there a delay?

if a delay what is happening to the pole does it stretch in the middle or progressively until the distance moved by earth end is moved at sun end??

 

is it slower than speed of light or equal?

 

 

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3 hours ago, zArk said:

@peter @oddsnsods

 

care to speculate on the tug-o-war ?

 

@peter

a man at earth is holding the end of a pole 

another man is at the sun holding the other end of the extremely long incredibly light and strong pole

when earth man pulls the pole how long does it take for the other end to move?

 

[speed of light is fastest and takes 8 mins to reach earth]

 

does the sun end move immediately?

is there a delay?

if a delay what is happening to the pole does it stretch in the middle or progressively until the distance moved by earth end is moved at sun end??

 

is it slower than speed of light or equal?

 

 

Zark if I was standing  on a train wearing a hat with my thumb up my ass doing 100km ph and jumped in the air and my hat flew off where would it land ,this question has as much relevance .

how far to your make believe horizon at sea level by the way , Mr Avoidance

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15 hours ago, oddsnsods said:

So Argentina Moon sets at 02/11/2021 - 16:08 (-03) that is 13:08 GMT

Perth Australia rises at 02/11/2021 - 03:44 (AWST +8) that is 11:44 GMT

 

Now how about you explain THAT

Further explaining,

 

 

East and West on a globe isn't exactly what you assume .

 

At any point on a globe, looking east or west , the view is towards the equator. Always 

 

[The idea that looking east or west is along the line of latitude is wrong.]

 

Below, point A looking east is viewing B

 

Point B looking west is viewing C

 

Red lines showing line of sight

 

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And now you may see why the entire assertion by @oddsnsods quoted above has fundamental errors of understanding.

 

errors not just in the time place between points

But also in the perspective of the moon in the sky 

 

applying ignorant globe thinking to flat earth will never work.

 

 

 

 

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29 minutes ago, zArk said:

Further explaining,

 

 

East and West on a globe isn't exactly what you assume .

 

At any point on a globe, looking east or west , the view is towards the equator. Always 

 

[The idea that looking east or west is along the line of latitude is wrong.]

 

Below, point A looking east is viewing B

 

Point B looking west is viewing C

 

Red lines showing line of sight

 

IMG_20211103_123939.jpg.92ddce3642fae1b09dde21d03c4197ac.jpg

 

And now you may see why the entire assertion by @oddsnsods quoted above has fundamental errors of understanding.

 

errors not just in the time place between points

But also in the perspective of the moon in the sky 

 

applying ignorant globe thinking to flat earth will never work.

 

 

 

 

🐎💩🤦‍♂️🤣

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20 hours ago, zArk said:

 

 

i think Perth Australia at 03:44am is around 7:44pm the previous day at UK if as you write 'from west to east as the Moon travels'

or do you wish to Move the time zone east to west for Perth to GMT but keep it west to east for Argentina to GMT?

 

So Argentina Moon sets at 16:08 that is (east to west) 7.08pm GMT the previous day

 

Can you be consistent please?

 

 

 

The Moon is visible at the same from both spots in two detailed cases and you ignored that they are the same view from that far apart. You used your daft opposite sides of the room crap to "explain" about Northern and Southern hemisphere upside down, yet the same distance apart, viewed at the same time and they are more or less identical! You argued that in your room "explanation" there was no horizon (slaps forehead), ok then, when the Moon is near the bit is magically disappears at, in the same room crap, it MUST be the same. Are you spatially challenged or something?

 

As for your silly argument about Perth/ The time zones make no difference to simultaneous viewing! The direction of lunar motion is consistent  - explain how they are the same, next post or you are either a fraud or afraid.   

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13 hours ago, zArk said:

DayLight is a yinyang shape, not circular

 

 

 

Once again for the fraud.

 

How does Falkland Islands have 16 hours sun in December, same as Southern New Zealand (by half hour) & 16 hours dark in June.

Same as all the base of the southern hemisphere.

 

OF course is not possible on your flat map, as they are at opposites & that would make the earth permanently in day light or dArKnEss in our summer.

 

Truth will set you free, when you face reality.

 

13 hours ago, zArk said:

Posting obviously confused data is no good

 

At least check your sources

 

 

 

Confused data fisherman & aircraft use 24/7 globally.

 

You have no source, only me!!!!!!!!!!!!🤦‍♂️🤥

 

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