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19 minutes ago, Nobby Noboddy said:

OK all you ballers.

 

You're SO sure that you're right.

And backed by all your evidence (snigger) it should be REALLY REALLY easy to make yourself $10,000.

 

Let us know how you get on.

 

 

 

Looks like this challenge is very real

and not a joke

Rules, Terms, and Conditions(please read carefully): Firstly, just to be exceptionally clear, Factual: - concerned with what is actually the case rather than interpretations of or reactions to it - actually occurring - of, relating to, or characterized by facts - of the nature of fact; real; actual Fact: - a thing that is INDISPUTABLY the case - something that has actual existence - an actual occurrence Irrefutable: - not capable of being refuted or disproved - impossible to deny or disprove - not refutable: incontrovertible Please keep the definitions of factual and irrefutable in mind when preparing, presenting, and receiving judgement on your evidence! Those two words are the main criteria by which everyone's evidence will be judged. 1). In the comment section below, present ONE(you can do more if you'd like, but at least one) piece of factual and irrefutable evidence for a). the curvature and b). the motion of the alleged spinning ball earth. 2). Each piece of evidence provided, for both the curvature and the motion MUST BE accompanied by an experiment, test, or method proving and showing the way through which you obtained your result. 3). Your experiment, test, or method must be replicable and the same result must be obtained by myself and others in order for your evidence to be considered. There are many different kinds of experiments, tests and measurements that anyone should be able to do, to easily prove both the curvature and motion of the alleged spinning ball. If you need some ideas for such experiments, please see some examples below of others attempting to find both the curvature and motion of the alleged spinning ball: - Bedford Level 1838 (curvature) - Airy’s Failure 1871 (motion) - Michelson-Morley 1887 (motion) - Sagnac 1913 (motion) - Michelson-Gale 1925 (motion) 4). Your evidence will be evaluated and judged using none other than the SCIENTIFIC METHOD itself! Just a quick reminder for anyone who has forgotten what the Scientific Method is and how it works: THE SCIENTIFIC METHOD: a method of research in which A). a problem is identified, B). relevant data are gathered, C). a hypothesis is formulated from these data, D). the hypothesis is EMPIRICALLY tested and E). data is analyzed and a conclusion is drawn. To quickly touch on D - EMPIRICALLY TESTED: EMPIRICAL: - based on, concerned with, or verifiable by observation or experience RATHER THAN THEORY or pure logic - derived from or guided by EXPERIENCE or EXPERIMENT - depending upon EXPERIENCE or OBSERVATION - PROVABLE or VERIFIABLE by EXPERIENCE or EXPERIMENT Thus, some examples of evidence that WONT qualify: - i heard it from... - i saw it on... - everyone knows this - the scientific community says so - NASA said so - Neil DeGrasse Tyson said so - the astronauts said so - the THEORY of gravity said so - so and so University said so - so and so scientist said so - Donald Pettit or Barry Wilmore filmed this from the "ISS" - evidence that only the "Hubble Space Telescope" or a "satellite" could see - evidence that only a certain University or "qualified" group of individuals can produce - PHOTOS: I hate to rule these out but for the sake of saving time, I am going to. Photos can be easily manipulated and thus will not be considered as evidence. VIDEOS: I will allow video footage as evidence because videos are harder to manipulate. You can attach a fisheye or wide angle lens and make a flat surface look curved(though this trickery will be exposed as soon as the camera pans up and down), but no matter the lens you fasten to your eyeball or camera, you simply CANNOT make a ball look perfectly flat. To make a ball look flat you would have to either use CGI or heavy post production editing and your fraud will be very easily exposed by the pixelation and distortion of pixels where you pulled your curved ball into a flat surface. This gets even more complicated the more the camera pans/tilts up and down. Thus, you can present video footage and it will be evaluated like all other evidence, using the Scientific Method. If we are unable to obtain the same results, your evidence will unfortunately not pass! Hopefully you get the idea. Your experiments and tests by which you obtained your evidence must be replicated. I care NOT about what ANYONE says or has seen or heard. If I(and anyone) cannot replicate your experiment and come to your same result, your evidence will NOT qualify. 5). To make things more fair and of course interesting, I will have a special guest judge on the panel, none other than the amazing, smart and very talented, the man, the legend himself, Mr. Eric Dubay! He will join me in empirically testing your evidence and providing the final judgment. Please read the above rules one more time if you have to. Irrefutable facts of reality and the Scientific Method will be the judges of your evidence. Eric and I will simply be delivering the judgement to you. 6). Please check the thread. If your evidence has already been presented and judged, I will likely just tag you under that comment in the interest of saving time. I may address the same evidence a couple times if need be but unfortunately I don't have time to repeat myself over and over and over again. 7). If you are commenting under someone else's comment, please understand that reply priority will go to the initial commenter. If there will be extra time, myself or Eric, may respond to additional comments but priority will go to the original commenters. If you want to insure that YOUR evidence is seen, please comment it as a new comment and not as a reply to someone else as it may be missed that way. Cool. If your evidence hasn't been addressed by MYSELF or Eric, please consider your case still open. Judgement on your evidence will ONLY count from myself or Eric, not other commenters. 9). To all my religious folks. Please pay attention to this rule! Though I very much do understand where you may be coming from, for the sake of sanity and keeping focus on flat earth, please refrain from religious debates and arguments. Earth is flat regardless of any religious text or religion saying so. Flat earth, has NOTHING to do with religion and everything to do with spirituality(truth), which is of course different. I will be issuing future challenges for various commonly accepted religious beliefs so you will have the opportunity to express yourselves then but for the sake of keeping this thread focused on the topic of flat earth, please refrain from religious discussions here. Thank you! 10). I am doing this challenge to help bring attention to this highly important topic. I am NOT doing it to start fights, attacks or arguments. THEREFORE, please refrain from foul language, attacks, and verbal abuse. If I do notice this happening you will be given ONE warning, after which, if you do not comply, you will be disqualified and blocked! I do NOT want to disqualify or block anyone because I want everyone to have an amazing and positive learning experience from everything that will be discussed so please don't make me do it. Keep your discussions civil and professional. Thank you! 11). Have an amazing time! This should be fun and enlightening, more than anything. I want everyone to enjoy this so please contribute positively and we will all have a great time together no matter our differences! 12). This isn't so much a rule but more of a request, if you are inclined to do so, please share this challenge with everyone you know. Together we will make a difference! If your evidence does NOT qualify or factually and irrefutably prove the spinning ball earth, you will be given an explanation as to why and how that is so. Your evidence will be evaluated based on the criteria above, therefore your explanation will provide the process by which we determined your evidence was NOT valid. If you DO provide this factual and irrefutable evidence that will once and for all establish that earth is in fact a water bending, ocean curving, spinning, tilting, wobbling and hurtling through infinite space into oblivion BALL, you WILL BE rewarded these $10,000 CASH(yes this is my photo and proof of the existence of the money) because believe me my dear baller friend, if you do, you deserve not just these $10,000 dollars but all of the money in the world that you could possibly ask for. You will be the first person in the history of human existence to prove factually the existence of the spinning ball earth. For the sake of this challenge however, you will only get $10,000. If you live in the United States and would like a 3 day/2 night trip to Los Angeles, California, I will pay for your travel and stay at The Montage Hotel in Beverly Hills and personally deliver the $10,000 cash to you, filmed live for Facebook and YouTube for the entire world to see. If you are not in the U.S. the money will be either wire transferred to you or converted to bitcoin and sent to you after which I will send you instructions on how to convert it to your home currency. As a bonus, if you or anyone you know, can demonstrate the bending and/or curving of still water(with a replicable experiment), especially around a spinning ball, you will be awarded an additional $40,000 for a total of $50,000 CASH. I will also reach out to the producers of the top talk shows in LA and ask that they air you and your amazing talent live for the world to see. You will be the first human in the history of humanity to do what the science community claims is happening today, right now, as we speak, with the spinning ball earth! “There are two ways to be fooled! One is to believe what ISN’T true; the other is to refuse to accept what IS true!” - Soren Kierkegaard The TRUTH fears no investigation! Thank you for reading and participating! Good luck!

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4 hours ago, alexa said:

The heat differentiation between the sun and the moon.

 

The Sun’s light is golden, warm, drying, preservative and antiseptic, while the Moon’s light is silver, cool, damp, putrefying and septic.

 

The Sun’s rays decrease the combustion of a bonfire, while the Moon’s rays increase combustion.

 

Plant and animal substances exposed to sunlight quickly dry, shrink, coagulate, and lose the tendency to decompose and putrify; grapes and other fruits become solid, partially candied and preserved like raisins, dates, and prunes; animal flesh coagulates, loses its volatile gaseous constituents, becomes firm, dry, and slow to decay.

When exposed to moonlight, however, plant and animal substances, tend to show symptoms of putrefaction and decay.

 

 

 

Moon light is just reflection of the sun light, again you are trying to fit your bible beliefs. 😇

Heat is not the same as lumens either, you need lumens to make something grow.

moon has no lumens.

 

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8 hours ago, zArk said:

i am really fixated upon that Blackpool video now.

i see the distortion of the sea and the air just above the sea

and i assume that for the sphere that light is bending through the apparent horizon (is the horizon apparent at 17 miles?)

the sphere real horizon is 10miles+ previous

 

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does the lower red line hit the actual sphere horizon at 3-7miles (6ft - 15ft viewer?)

and the sea and image between the red lines is the mirage

 

but the problem then is that the poles are pretty much inline with the mirageand the height of the poles is roughly correct 150m total height including blade tips

 

You claim theres a mirage there, I dont see a false horizon, but with the red sunset sky maybe was a hot day? Still the point of the video, like any turbine video to me is the different heights over the horizon. Thats the point that answered your original question on the curve. Watch the ranty video for better example.

 

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11 minutes ago, oddsnsods said:

 

Moon light is just reflection of the sun light, again you are trying to fit your bible beliefs. 😇

Heat is not the same as lumens either, you need lumens to make something grow.

moon has no lumens.

 

 

how do they know the moon has no lumens ?

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Just now, alexa said:

 

And what does your meter read ?

 

I dont have a lumen meter lol they are very expensive.

 

I know Moon lumens are very low tho, not enough to grow a plant.

 

You video is not a lumen meter, its a heat detector not same, so daft comparison to anything the sun has to offer..because of course the moon only reflects the suns light.

Anyone who would question that is definitely not the brightest light in the harbour.

 

Just admit it your moon bulb bibleology is vastly past its sell by date.

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3 minutes ago, oddsnsods said:

I dont have a lumen meter lol they are very expensive.

 

Oh sorry I thought you said you had one

 

4 minutes ago, oddsnsods said:

You video is not a lumen meter, its a heat detector not same, so daft comparison to anything the sun has to offer

 

I know my video was about heat detection, so how did we get onto lumens ? :classic_biggrin:

 

7 minutes ago, oddsnsods said:

Anyone who would question that is definitely not the brightest light in the harbour.

 

I question every thing these lying toe rags try to tell us, don't you ?

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2 minutes ago, alexa said:

I know my video was about heat detection, so how did we get onto lumens ? :classic_biggrin:

I was trying to figure out the point of your post.🤔

2 minutes ago, alexa said:

 

 

I question every thing these lying toe rags try to tell us, don't you ?

I dont see you questioning no..

If the moon was a light source, wouldn't have any shadow..like the video I posted to you with it being in its own shadow as weve seen our whole life at certain times.

 

The Starlink videos I posted, kills any flat earth & dome, beliefs in one video.

 

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Isn't flat earth just another ludicrous theory/belief to discredit conspiracy research? "LOL they believe the earth is flat don't they!". 

It seems really obvious to me. 

 

Why is it when you blow a bubble even through a square hole it becomes spherical? Gravity. 

 

It's a distraction at best, people arguing whether or not the earth is flat or spherical while the cabal works flat out to destroy our lives.

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15 hours ago, Captain Falcon said:

Isn't flat earth just another ludicrous theory/belief to discredit conspiracy research? "LOL they believe the earth is flat don't they!". 

It seems really obvious to me. 

 

Why is it when you blow a bubble even through a square hole it becomes spherical? Gravity. 

 

It's a distraction at best, people arguing whether or not the earth is flat or spherical while the cabal works flat out to destroy our lives.

 

Bubbles are spherical because of surface tension, it has nothing to with gravity.

The tension wants to be a minimum and the shape that allows that is a sphere.

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20 hours ago, Jikwan said:

 

Looks like this challenge is very real

and not a joke

Rules, Terms, and Conditions(please read carefully): Firstly, just to be exceptionally clear, Factual: - concerned with what is actually the case rather than interpretations of or reactions to it - actually occurring - of, relating to, or characterized by facts - of the nature of fact; real; actual Fact: - a thing that is INDISPUTABLY the case - something that has actual existence - an actual occurrence Irrefutable: - not capable of being refuted or disproved - impossible to deny or disprove - not refutable: incontrovertible Please keep the definitions of factual and irrefutable in mind when preparing, presenting, and receiving judgement on your evidence! Those two words are the main criteria by which everyone's evidence will be judged. 1). In the comment section below, present ONE(you can do more if you'd like, but at least one) piece of factual and irrefutable evidence for a). the curvature and b). the motion of the alleged spinning ball earth. 2). Each piece of evidence provided, for both the curvature and the motion MUST BE accompanied by an experiment, test, or method proving and showing the way through which you obtained your result. 3). Your experiment, test, or method must be replicable and the same result must be obtained by myself and others in order for your evidence to be considered. There are many different kinds of experiments, tests and measurements that anyone should be able to do, to easily prove both the curvature and motion of the alleged spinning ball. If you need some ideas for such experiments, please see some examples below of others attempting to find both the curvature and motion of the alleged spinning ball: - Bedford Level 1838 (curvature) - Airy’s Failure 1871 (motion) - Michelson-Morley 1887 (motion) - Sagnac 1913 (motion) - Michelson-Gale 1925 (motion) 4). Your evidence will be evaluated and judged using none other than the SCIENTIFIC METHOD itself! Just a quick reminder for anyone who has forgotten what the Scientific Method is and how it works: THE SCIENTIFIC METHOD: a method of research in which A). a problem is identified, B). relevant data are gathered, C). a hypothesis is formulated from these data, D). the hypothesis is EMPIRICALLY tested and E). data is analyzed and a conclusion is drawn. To quickly touch on D - EMPIRICALLY TESTED: EMPIRICAL: - based on, concerned with, or verifiable by observation or experience RATHER THAN THEORY or pure logic - derived from or guided by EXPERIENCE or EXPERIMENT - depending upon EXPERIENCE or OBSERVATION - PROVABLE or VERIFIABLE by EXPERIENCE or EXPERIMENT Thus, some examples of evidence that WONT qualify: - i heard it from... - i saw it on... - everyone knows this - the scientific community says so - NASA said so - Neil DeGrasse Tyson said so - the astronauts said so - the THEORY of gravity said so - so and so University said so - so and so scientist said so - Donald Pettit or Barry Wilmore filmed this from the "ISS" - evidence that only the "Hubble Space Telescope" or a "satellite" could see - evidence that only a certain University or "qualified" group of individuals can produce - PHOTOS: I hate to rule these out but for the sake of saving time, I am going to. Photos can be easily manipulated and thus will not be considered as evidence. VIDEOS: I will allow video footage as evidence because videos are harder to manipulate. You can attach a fisheye or wide angle lens and make a flat surface look curved(though this trickery will be exposed as soon as the camera pans up and down), but no matter the lens you fasten to your eyeball or camera, you simply CANNOT make a ball look perfectly flat. To make a ball look flat you would have to either use CGI or heavy post production editing and your fraud will be very easily exposed by the pixelation and distortion of pixels where you pulled your curved ball into a flat surface. This gets even more complicated the more the camera pans/tilts up and down. Thus, you can present video footage and it will be evaluated like all other evidence, using the Scientific Method. If we are unable to obtain the same results, your evidence will unfortunately not pass! Hopefully you get the idea. Your experiments and tests by which you obtained your evidence must be replicated. I care NOT about what ANYONE says or has seen or heard. If I(and anyone) cannot replicate your experiment and come to your same result, your evidence will NOT qualify. 5). To make things more fair and of course interesting, I will have a special guest judge on the panel, none other than the amazing, smart and very talented, the man, the legend himself, Mr. Eric Dubay! He will join me in empirically testing your evidence and providing the final judgment. Please read the above rules one more time if you have to. Irrefutable facts of reality and the Scientific Method will be the judges of your evidence. Eric and I will simply be delivering the judgement to you. 6). Please check the thread. If your evidence has already been presented and judged, I will likely just tag you under that comment in the interest of saving time. I may address the same evidence a couple times if need be but unfortunately I don't have time to repeat myself over and over and over again. 7). If you are commenting under someone else's comment, please understand that reply priority will go to the initial commenter. If there will be extra time, myself or Eric, may respond to additional comments but priority will go to the original commenters. If you want to insure that YOUR evidence is seen, please comment it as a new comment and not as a reply to someone else as it may be missed that way. Cool. If your evidence hasn't been addressed by MYSELF or Eric, please consider your case still open. Judgement on your evidence will ONLY count from myself or Eric, not other commenters. 9). To all my religious folks. Please pay attention to this rule! Though I very much do understand where you may be coming from, for the sake of sanity and keeping focus on flat earth, please refrain from religious debates and arguments. Earth is flat regardless of any religious text or religion saying so. Flat earth, has NOTHING to do with religion and everything to do with spirituality(truth), which is of course different. I will be issuing future challenges for various commonly accepted religious beliefs so you will have the opportunity to express yourselves then but for the sake of keeping this thread focused on the topic of flat earth, please refrain from religious discussions here. Thank you! 10). I am doing this challenge to help bring attention to this highly important topic. I am NOT doing it to start fights, attacks or arguments. THEREFORE, please refrain from foul language, attacks, and verbal abuse. If I do notice this happening you will be given ONE warning, after which, if you do not comply, you will be disqualified and blocked! I do NOT want to disqualify or block anyone because I want everyone to have an amazing and positive learning experience from everything that will be discussed so please don't make me do it. Keep your discussions civil and professional. Thank you! 11). Have an amazing time! This should be fun and enlightening, more than anything. I want everyone to enjoy this so please contribute positively and we will all have a great time together no matter our differences! 12). This isn't so much a rule but more of a request, if you are inclined to do so, please share this challenge with everyone you know. Together we will make a difference! If your evidence does NOT qualify or factually and irrefutably prove the spinning ball earth, you will be given an explanation as to why and how that is so. Your evidence will be evaluated based on the criteria above, therefore your explanation will provide the process by which we determined your evidence was NOT valid. If you DO provide this factual and irrefutable evidence that will once and for all establish that earth is in fact a water bending, ocean curving, spinning, tilting, wobbling and hurtling through infinite space into oblivion BALL, you WILL BE rewarded these $10,000 CASH(yes this is my photo and proof of the existence of the money) because believe me my dear baller friend, if you do, you deserve not just these $10,000 dollars but all of the money in the world that you could possibly ask for. You will be the first person in the history of human existence to prove factually the existence of the spinning ball earth. For the sake of this challenge however, you will only get $10,000. If you live in the United States and would like a 3 day/2 night trip to Los Angeles, California, I will pay for your travel and stay at The Montage Hotel in Beverly Hills and personally deliver the $10,000 cash to you, filmed live for Facebook and YouTube for the entire world to see. If you are not in the U.S. the money will be either wire transferred to you or converted to bitcoin and sent to you after which I will send you instructions on how to convert it to your home currency. As a bonus, if you or anyone you know, can demonstrate the bending and/or curving of still water(with a replicable experiment), especially around a spinning ball, you will be awarded an additional $40,000 for a total of $50,000 CASH. I will also reach out to the producers of the top talk shows in LA and ask that they air you and your amazing talent live for the world to see. You will be the first human in the history of humanity to do what the science community claims is happening today, right now, as we speak, with the spinning ball earth! “There are two ways to be fooled! One is to believe what ISN’T true; the other is to refuse to accept what IS true!” - Soren Kierkegaard The TRUTH fears no investigation! Thank you for reading and participating! Good luck!

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I will put it bluntly ,what a crock of shit you don't see any glaring and biased conditions weighted to the fe side of the debate ( and I use the term debate loosely). If you would like me to explain why to you just ask

How's the band practice going

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21 hours ago, Captain Falcon said:

Isn't flat earth just another ludicrous theory/belief to discredit conspiracy research? "LOL they believe the earth is flat don't they!". 

It seems really obvious to me. 

 

Why is it when you blow a bubble even through a square hole it becomes spherical? Gravity. 

 

It's a distraction at best, people arguing whether or not the earth is flat or spherical while the cabal works flat out to destroy our lives.

Then you should politely 'go away' if it's of no interest.

 

Personally I'm starting to see ballers as slightly insane.

 

And which cabal is that you speak of?

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On 9/9/2021 at 12:07 AM, oddsnsods said:

Guys please explain. Or give a reasonable response, not weather balloons please.🤦‍♂️

Apart from the obvious answers for proof earth spinning, like Corealis effect or Foucault pendulum, we have something more practical, as in Satellite detectors & apps, can be verified in the sky if you really tried, as well as geo orbit sats orbiting different times. Im sure could be quite easily proven, as well as the ISS of course can be tracked. Hard for some to believe, but theyde never try anyway.😭

 

Yes Star link aka skynet sats are visible..& can easily be tracked & visualised.

 

 

 

 

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Serious answers please.

 

 

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Just now, Nobby Noboddy said:

 

How do you know you're not getting your signal from one of these babies?

 

 

Tell me how they go round the flat earth every 90 minutes? Or can be tracked & even visualised. Like all Satellites can.

Main point tho, how can they travel or ORBIT at 1700mph inside our atmosphere without falling to bits..no they cant & you can easily time them & know what speed they travel.

Very easily.

Truthseekers.

 

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1 hour ago, Nobby Noboddy said:

Then you should politely 'go away' if it's of no interest.

 

Personally I'm starting to see ballers as slightly insane.

 

And which cabal is that you speak of?

 

Ah passive aggressiveness, the mark of a coward. You didn't even have the balls to tell me to fuck off even though you wanted to. You're kind of right though about leaving the thread if I don't have any interest, I just don't like the way you went about saying it.

 

I'll leave you guys to it.

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So everytime a globulist or space affirmer writes or says anything about the subject i dont pay too much attention

Their views and opinions point not to reality

They regurgitate their heavy conditioning and programming

 

Why do FE researchers even bother discussing the subject with flatearth debunkers?

 

Flatearth debunkers should be ignored

Spaceaffirmers spouting NASA lies and deceptions should be ignored

 

Have you ever learnt a single good and useful thing from these types of poster?

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Flatearth debunkers cannot even prove curveture

They cannot disprove our evidence of a flat plain

 

They are not worth talking to

 

I dont bother

 

Have you ever....even once found that they spoke the truth?

Seriously

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Just now, Jikwan said:

 

Have you ever....even once found that they spoke the truth?

Seriously

 

Maybe you cant read, as weve given plenty examples you cant debate or accept.

I say debate lol Ive never seen you post anything on this thread EvEr no.. you are a cheerleader from what I see.

What is your real game Jikwan I wonder..or maybe a sock of BFlat again?

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