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1 hour ago, Trigger said:

 

What is this? You are posting a gif showing the light from the sun blooming in multiple images and then deceptively suggesting that the Sun diminishes accordingly. It does not and never has done. My eyes and the eyes of everyone on planet Earth see the same size everywhere, at midday and at sunset and sunrise. How far away is it when closest and how far away is it when it suddenly disappears full size? Same with the Moon.  Can you explain how views of the Moon simultaneously from South America and Southern Africa are obviously completely different and in answer to your ridiculous picture on the ceiling claim, can you tell me why they don't both see the Moon different ways up?

 

I eagerly await anyone giving a decipherable answer to this. @zArk, 2d Moon? No phases and then it would be oval shaped as it moves away. Absurd claim.

 

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If there are any fence sitters at all, any (and I sure hope there aren't), ask yourself this:

 

Why don't any of these people answer dead obvious posts like this one quoted?  

 

Fence sitters? Read this thread, page 1 just closes the whole thing.

 

 

 

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46 minutes ago, Trigger said:

 

So do I, they are very, very, very far away. It's called parallax.  Some stars move very slightly.

 

BTW: It is most certainly not a mainstream narrative. Every astronomer on Earth can work this one out. Their telescopes need adjusting as the relative positions move for closer stars, albeit a very tiny amount. These would be people who view the planets all spinning around. Radio hams bounce signals off the Moon - 240,000 miles.

 

How come none of you people ever tell us how far away the Sun and Moon is?  

 

i suppose after your first 8 guesses you are now settled on the 93million ????

 

how come you people havent found the curve ?

 

you think that you can stare one way and see a night sky then turn the other way (180million miles on a planet 8,000 miles diameter) and see the same night sky?

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2 minutes ago, Basket Case said:

 

The one that boats disappear over ? 

The one the Sun goes behind when it sets ? 

 

That curve ? 

thats not curve.

horizon is a visual effect which is always eyelevel

 

a proper experiment proving the curve is sadly lacking.

theres proper experiments showing flatness

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7 minutes ago, Basket Case said:

How far away is the Moon. 

How far away is the Sun. 

 

Asked countless times by many different people here. 

 

2 very reasonable questions. 

 

 

why ?

whats the goal of the questions?

 

 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Basket Case said:

 

Explain please. 

 

 

What problems 'over water' ? 

 

 

Here is a decent one over water. Everyone I show these to sees the sun apparently shrinking as it recedes.

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The main problems over water, because mainly of the humidity or the additional liquid and the 'thickness' of that liquid in the air, is refraction (a few different kinds) and magnification.

 

And here is one of those where you can zoom in on the type of sunset that odds showed you, and bring it back, and clearly above the water.

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This goes back to the idea that the horizon is not what the narrative claims.

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16 minutes ago, zArk said:

dunno if its a disc or a hologram or an image manifested from radiation . dunno.

 

 

It cant be a disc, as my little video I posted to you shows & I just did out of extreme boredom of the subject, as is so obvious.

Comeon Zark you are better than using that map in any serious debate. We been through that map so many times & the endless fallacies with it. The moon is never above our heads its passes across the sky.

A lunar eclipse does not shows a flat shadow does it.

Your whole argument is going nowhere outside the flerther asylum, its worse than the Covidian media virus Scariant narrative.

You cant explain Earths magnetic field, GPS, Aura Borealis in the southern hemisphere...

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16 minutes ago, cuboftruth said:

Here is a decent one over water. Everyone I show these to sees the sun apparently shrinking as it recedes.

MZJmyB.gif

 

The main problems over water, because mainly of the humidity or the additional liquid and the 'thickness' of that liquid in the air, is refraction (a few different kinds) and magnification.

 

And here is one of those where you can zoom in on the type of sunset that odds showed you, and bring it back, and clearly above the water.

qQlXN3.gif

 

This goes back to the idea that the horizon is not what the narrative claims.

 

Low res GIFs (yet again)

Not zoomed in (yet again) 

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3 minutes ago, Basket Case said:

 

No, but if you tell me roughly how far away the Sun and Moon are, I'll prove beyond reasonable doubt whether the Earth is flat or not. 

 

 

Ìts unimportant

I suspect even the top flatearthers dont know. Have any of them been out there with some sort of measuring device?

Nobody has been past the dome or the atmosphere-vaccuum barrier

There!

Now its your turn to use  "vrifiable maths" to prove the sun is 93 million light years away or whatever

You cannot show the distance of your gas filled sun

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45 minutes ago, Basket Case said:

 

Verifyable maths.. 

 

 

fair enough..  i dunno. i dont even know if the sun is at the same height /altitude all the time or even within our closed dome system.

it could be refracted through a dome which would place the original source in a completely idfferent position

 

the moon , again , i dunno. really. havent a scooby

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2 hours ago, oddsnsods said:

I have put together a clear experiment of my ceiling lights, for @zArk showing how a 2d disc moon perspective would look like.

 

https://streamable.com/a3quar

 

 

brilliant ... you couldnt be bothered to stick a picture on the ceiling...

 

i dont know if the moon is actually within our dome , but probably venture that its on the other side refracting through

 

 

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18 minutes ago, Basket Case said:

 

 

So refracting / refraction is a thing then ? 

 

 

well , i also read soemthing saying that radiation emitted from under the earth is reflected back by the dome and the converging rays create the Sun

 

but anything on the other side of the dome will have its image refracted

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20 minutes ago, zArk said:

brilliant ... you couldnt be bothered to stick a picture on the ceiling...

 

i dont know if the moon is actually within our dome , but probably venture that its on the other side refracting through

 

 

 

Why would I need to stick a disc shaped picture on ceiling, when I have a disc shaped base of the light?

 

No evidence of any dome or seal...tons of evidence against tho, like the skynet satellites recently launched. But then you will deny they exist..its all weather balloons, that go round & round the dome.

 

Remember you claimed they were all a light show before.

 

 

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This fully puts this nonsense to sleep the 2d moon:

 

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The Moon is simultaneously visible from two different continents as depicted below.  Let's assume that the Moon all over the Earth is waning and showing a half face to people in Southern Africa. Now at the same time, in the sky the people in South America are seeing the OPPOSITE!

 

In addition to this, the flat earthers claim that the reason the Moon is upside down in Australia is some crap about viewing a picture on the ceiling from opposite sides of the room. Both these two position are in the Southern hemisphere, so quite clearly this disproves that bullshit.

 

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Moving along slightly, here's something to ponder over...

 

IF the earth is a flat plane and not a globe, then what are the sun and the moon?

 

What is their purpose, and why do they do what is shown in flat earth 'explanations'? Ie, why and how do they circle above the flat plane?

 

The Moon Proves The Flat Earth Deception

Also, this brings into question 'how do seasons work?' on the flat earth model. As well as the variance in the daytime length. I did see some 'explanation' that the circular motion of the sun 'expands and contracts', and while this sort of explains why there are more hours of daylight during summer in the northern hemisphere, it doesn't (in my mind anyway) explain why the same occurs in the southern hemisphere summer.

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Greetings..

 

 

 

Here is something for both world views. What the viewer has to do is concentrate on the so-called horizon and on the position of the stars. Once the northern hemisphere and twice the southern. The ones in the southern hemisphere are particularly interesting. I don't want to imply anything or take a position here, but I think that such videos should be studied very carefully.

 

North

 

 

South

 

 

 

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