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6 minutes ago, Truthspoon said:

To be honest Muslims tend not to have any great resentment against 'whites'.

 

Agreed, some do help us. That Zoubida lady has worked with abused children in the UK, and she mentions that young white children have been let down by the system too.

 

That's all I ask really, for people to understand that we suffer and feel pain like everyone else.

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19 minutes ago, ink said:

 

If I may .... one more question:

 

Do you personally consider that you could/ can be racist? Or can only 'white' people be racist?

Anybody can be foolish and dumb. Anybody can be racist. 

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24 minutes ago, Truthspoon said:

 

To be honest Muslims tend not to have any great resentment against 'whites'. Quite the contrary. In fact my landlord is surprised there are so many blacks in London and thinks we've lost our minds. Also Arabs in general are under no illusions about some of the issues of criminality which black people often seem to be associated with. The level of 'racism' against blacks in the Arab word make people like Weedo fulminate himself to blowing up point. 

 

The ones who seem to have developed this anti-white mentality are ironically the ones we have given a home and a life to in our own countries. Ironic eh?

 

My thought is that Weedo doesn't know the Muslim world outside of Europe, therefore I wouldn't count him as a representative of Islam. I like Muslims, I don't like people like Weedo though who come on about 'white supremacy' all the while their families having been housed, educated and cared for by the British tax payer. Many of them are rich having capitalised on the houses and opportunities given to them when they arrived.  Most of the landlords in London are Pakistani's because they were given flats when they arrived so what they did was all live together in one flat and sub-let the others, a nice business plan, all subsidised by the white British tax payer.

 

 Pretty hard when someone bites the hand that feeds them.  But that's typical of certain people's mentality unfortunately.

 

 

You are an idiot. 

 

Weedo is not living in brittain. Weedo is currently living in a Muslim country. 

 

Weedos paternal family saved Europe many times from turks and ottomans throughout history, so Weedo is more European than you. 

 

Weedo just proved that you are an idiot who talks about things he doesn't know. 

 

 

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8 minutes ago, Weedo said:

You are an idiot. 

 

Weedo is not living in brittain. Weedo is currently living in a Muslim country. 

 

Weedos paternal family saved Europe many times from turks and ottomans throughout history, so Weedo is more European than you. 

 

Weedo just proved that you are an idiot who talks about things he doesn't know. 

 

 

 

Why are you talking in the third person? Are there multiple people in your head? 

 

Is there a nice guy in there someone who doesn't insult everyone who tries to talk to him?


Bring him out and I'll talk to him.

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17 minutes ago, Truthspoon said:

 

Why are you talking in the third person? Are there multiple people in your head? 

 

Is there a nice guy in there someone who doesn't insult everyone who tries to talk to him?


Bring him out and I'll talk to him.

I'm talking in third person as a response to you talking about me I'm third person, instead straight to me. And of course me correcting your misconceptions will not bring out any apology or even acknowledgement. Doesn't matter. And if I remember correctly, it's you who started with that insults and the latest being how you don't like people like Weedo.. 

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6 minutes ago, Weedo said:

I just wonder how many of the active members here actually support racist apartheid laws. Anybody have a good estimate? I get the feeling that it's the majority, but I HOPE I'm wrong. 

 

I'm not sure what most peoples views are on SA, and I can't speak for others, but many are against what is happening to Palestinians.

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5 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

 

I'm not sure what most peoples views are on SA, and I can't speak for others, but many are against what is happening to Palestinians.

So they are basically racist against blacks only, and not against Arabs or Palestinians? 

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Just now, EnigmaticWorld said:

@Weedo

 

SA hasn't really been discussed here much either to my knowledge, but Palestine has because of the religious nature of that region.

Yes and that is one of the reasons why I felt so comfortable in this forum. They seemed to care about basic human rights and equality, without believing in supremacy of any kind, other than in accomplishments of course. 

 

The original post of this thread is very pro Apartheid, so I felt I had to tackle that issue. It seems that some people here think it's ok to invade people's land and turn them into second class citizens. 

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5 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

 

I think many just don't want to talk about SA because they probably feel like they'll be blamed for it for being white.

Yes that is understandable somehow. But they need to understand that just because they are white, it does not mean that they are responsible for what other white people did. Generalising about people based on color is the whole issue. 

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Apartheid is 'separateness'.  The South African system was not apartheid.  It was a supremacist system run by white Europeans, with complicitly from some Jews and an intermediate racial group known as Coloureds.  It was originally intended to be apartheid but it was corrupted almost immediately, and what Mikheil describes is not apartheid but white supremacism - which is one of the reasons the system met with so much opposition both within and without South Africa.  I believe that what we now see happening in South Africa would have happened anyway, except had the fake 'apartheid' system not been abolished, the rage of blacks would have been directed much more at whites and it would have been a true civil war, probably with 'ethical' Western military intervention along the lines of Kosovo.

 

Had Afrikaners and Anglo-South Africans simply lived separately from non-whites - an idea I would support for all white Europeans - that would have been a whole other matter.  It would still have been controversial and met with opposition and challenges from ignorant, self-righteous whites and Jews, but at least it would have been less morally offensive.

 

I do, however, take on board what Mikheil says about the benignity of southern African black servitude.  It was a system that had parallels to the developed slave system of the 18th. century southern United States - indeed, the latter system was an update of the former.  However, I don't agree with it.  I think all people should have self-determination, and with this comes the responsibility to accept regression and failure.  

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This poor bloke is in tears pleading to his countrymen not to turn it into Zimbabwe..

 

Unfortunately with such widespread destruction of critical infrastructure it maybe too late as the govt won't possibly be able to afford to rebuild it

 

 

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4 minutes ago, skitzorat said:

This poor bloke is in tears pleading to his countrymen not to turn it into Zimbabwe..

 

Unfortunately with such widespread destruction of critical infrastructure it maybe too late as the govt won't possibly be able to afford to rebuild it

 

 

 

South Africa should have been declared a failed state many years ago.

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13 hours ago, skitzorat said:

This poor bloke is in tears pleading to his countrymen not to turn it into Zimbabwe..

 

Unfortunately with such widespread destruction of critical infrastructure it maybe too late as the govt won't possibly be able to afford to rebuild it

 

 

 

That's heartbreaking.

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