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'Orwell, a great maker of lists in his notebooks, sent Celia thirty-five names, explaining that "it isn't very sensational and I don't suppose it will tell your friends anything they don't know." He felt that listing politically unreliable people would prevent them from 'worming their way into important propaganda jobs where they [could] do us a lot of harm.' Charlie Chaplin, Michael Redgrave and Orson Welles were mentioned without comments. But several other names were accompanied by satiric remarks: Nancy Cunard -- Silly. Has money; Louis Untermeyer -- Very silly; Sean O'Casey -- Very stupid; Paul Robeson -- Very anti-white; John Steinbeck -- Spurious writer, pseudo-naif; Bernard Shaw -- Reliably pro-Russian on all major issues; Kingsley Martin (his old enemy at the New Statesman) -- Decayed liberal. Very dishonest.'

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"The thing that frightens me about the modern intelligentsia," Orwell wrote, "is their inability to see that human society must be based on human decency . . . there is something wrong with a regime that needs a pyramid of corpses every few years."

- A passage from a letter he wrote in 1939


Might be a nothingburger, but I always thought that was an interesting choice of words.

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3 hours ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

Most people here are probably aware of the basics on Orwell, like his views on CapCom (Communist Capitalism), or Oligarchical Collectivism as he called it. I'll post some interesting tidbits though, feel free to share anything too.


If any members have not read Orwell's most famous book, 1984 then here is a free pdf


2 plus 2 does equal four, unless the party tells you otherwise?


In this time of Covid, the so-called pandemic is the 1984 party telling people 2 plus 2 equals 5.  Most people by now must be able to see that this virus

if it exists, is not dangerous to the vast majority of human beings



"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. His heart sank as he thought of the enormous power arrayed against him, the ease with which any Party intellectual would overthrow him in debate, the subtle arguments which he would not be able to understand, much less answer. And yet he was in the right! They were wrong and he was right. The obvious, the silly, and the true had got to be defended. Truisms are true, hold on to that! The solid world exists, its laws do not change. Stones are hard, water is wet, objects unsupported fall towards the earth's centre. With the feeling that he was speaking to O'Brien, and also that he was setting forth an important axiom, he wrote:"

Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.




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Does this sound familiar?


"In George Orwell's “1984” he wrote that “Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. History has stopped.”


I urge people to buy good old fashioned books about controversial subjects, because books are being deleted by Amazon

and other mega Corporations all the time. It's easy to delete an internet website with such information, but to have a hard

copy of the information at hand is much more difficult to annul. 


Start with buying a hard copy of Orwell's 1984 and Animal Farm, but not from Amazon, please.


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2 hours ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

Prophetic Orwell called it right over ‘football, beer and, above all, gambling’

Correct. I used to work in an office and it was a bit like the premier league. Minnows (up from a division/office juniors) always were asked to make the coffee or photocopy a useless peace of paper.


Temps got it worse. Never invited to their Christmas parties or summer outings. There was bullying...wolf of wall street style. I constantly got called a "jock" because of my accent. 


I see parallels between those who climb to the top through lies and deceit and those who grin and bear it.


These sneaky barstewards are everywhere. Didn't do your tie properly, you're not goin  to be in our inner circle


Thank the Lord I quit that insurance company a month after 9/11 happened. Shame I didn't know a good lawyer to sue the you know what through mental health issues.


Orwell was right. 

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 “He was a lonely ghost uttering a truth that nobody would ever hear. But so long as he uttered it, in some obscure way the continuity was not broken. It was not by making yourself heard but by staying sane that you carried on the human heritage.”


― George Orwell, 1984

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I don't have the book (1984) to hand for the exact quote but a part that always sticks in my mind is when Winston mentions a hazy distant past where the top hat wearing capitalists were overthrown by the party.

Seeing parallels with that today with the pushing of communist ideals and social and racial divisions that are being sown that need to be created before they can have their marxist revolution.

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