EnigmaticWorld Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 Most people here are probably aware of the basics on Orwell, like his views on CapCom (Communist Capitalism), or Oligarchical Collectivism as he called it. I'll post some interesting tidbits though, feel free to share anything too. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted July 13, 2021 Author Share Posted July 13, 2021 ORWELL'S CRYPTO-COMMIE LIST http://www.orwelltoday.com/orwellbookexec.shtml 'Orwell, a great maker of lists in his notebooks, sent Celia thirty-five names, explaining that "it isn't very sensational and I don't suppose it will tell your friends anything they don't know." He felt that listing politically unreliable people would prevent them from 'worming their way into important propaganda jobs where they [could] do us a lot of harm.' Charlie Chaplin, Michael Redgrave and Orson Welles were mentioned without comments. But several other names were accompanied by satiric remarks: Nancy Cunard -- Silly. Has money; Louis Untermeyer -- Very silly; Sean O'Casey -- Very stupid; Paul Robeson -- Very anti-white; John Steinbeck -- Spurious writer, pseudo-naif; Bernard Shaw -- Reliably pro-Russian on all major issues; Kingsley Martin (his old enemy at the New Statesman) -- Decayed liberal. Very dishonest.' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted July 13, 2021 Author Share Posted July 13, 2021 "The thing that frightens me about the modern intelligentsia," Orwell wrote, "is their inability to see that human society must be based on human decency . . . there is something wrong with a regime that needs a pyramid of corpses every few years." - A passage from a letter he wrote in 1939 Might be a nothingburger, but I always thought that was an interesting choice of words. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted July 13, 2021 Author Share Posted July 13, 2021 “The family had become in effect an extension of the Thought Police. It was a device by means of which everyone could be surrounded night and day by informers who knew him intimately.” ― George Orwell, 1984 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Retriever Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 3 hours ago, EnigmaticWorld said: Most people here are probably aware of the basics on Orwell, like his views on CapCom (Communist Capitalism), or Oligarchical Collectivism as he called it. I'll post some interesting tidbits though, feel free to share anything too. If any members have not read Orwell's most famous book, 1984 then here is a free pdf 2 plus 2 does equal four, unless the party tells you otherwise? In this time of Covid, the so-called pandemic is the 1984 party telling people 2 plus 2 equals 5. Most people by now must be able to see that this virus if it exists, is not dangerous to the vast majority of human beings https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=sites&srcid=ZGVmYXVsdGRvbWFpbnxiaHNzbGF0ZXJzZW5nbGlzaHxneDoyNjliZjQ5ZTkzMDBmM2U3 "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. His heart sank as he thought of the enormous power arrayed against him, the ease with which any Party intellectual would overthrow him in debate, the subtle arguments which he would not be able to understand, much less answer. And yet he was in the right! They were wrong and he was right. The obvious, the silly, and the true had got to be defended. Truisms are true, hold on to that! The solid world exists, its laws do not change. Stones are hard, water is wet, objects unsupported fall towards the earth's centre. With the feeling that he was speaking to O'Brien, and also that he was setting forth an important axiom, he wrote:" Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Retriever Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 (edited) Does this sound familiar? "In George Orwell's “1984” he wrote that “Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. History has stopped.” I urge people to buy good old fashioned books about controversial subjects, because books are being deleted by Amazon and other mega Corporations all the time. It's easy to delete an internet website with such information, but to have a hard copy of the information at hand is much more difficult to annul. Start with buying a hard copy of Orwell's 1984 and Animal Farm, but not from Amazon, please. Edited July 13, 2021 by Golden Retriever 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted July 13, 2021 Author Share Posted July 13, 2021 1 hour ago, Golden Retriever said: If any members have not read Orwell's most famous book, 1984 then here is a free pdf People should think about why the antagonist is called Emmanuel Goldstein. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted July 13, 2021 Author Share Posted July 13, 2021 Prophetic Orwell called it right over ‘football, beer and, above all, gambling’ https://davidicke.com/2020/01/21/prophetic-orwell-called-right-football-beer-gambling/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shake Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 2 hours ago, EnigmaticWorld said: Prophetic Orwell called it right over ‘football, beer and, above all, gambling’ https://davidicke.com/2020/01/21/prophetic-orwell-called-right-football-beer-gambling/ Correct. I used to work in an office and it was a bit like the premier league. Minnows (up from a division/office juniors) always were asked to make the coffee or photocopy a useless peace of paper. Temps got it worse. Never invited to their Christmas parties or summer outings. There was bullying...wolf of wall street style. I constantly got called a "jock" because of my accent. I see parallels between those who climb to the top through lies and deceit and those who grin and bear it. These sneaky barstewards are everywhere. Didn't do your tie properly, you're not goin to be in our inner circle Thank the Lord I quit that insurance company a month after 9/11 happened. Shame I didn't know a good lawyer to sue the you know what through mental health issues. Orwell was right. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted July 14, 2021 Author Share Posted July 14, 2021 "Patriotism is usually stronger than class hatred, and always stronger than internationalism." - George Orwell 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted July 16, 2021 Author Share Posted July 16, 2021 “He was a lonely ghost uttering a truth that nobody would ever hear. But so long as he uttered it, in some obscure way the continuity was not broken. It was not by making yourself heard but by staying sane that you carried on the human heritage.” ― George Orwell, 1984 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted July 22, 2021 Author Share Posted July 22, 2021 "The very concept of objective truth is fading out of the world. Lies will pass into history." - George Orwell 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itsa Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 (edited) I don't have the book (1984) to hand for the exact quote but a part that always sticks in my mind is when Winston mentions a hazy distant past where the top hat wearing capitalists were overthrown by the party. Seeing parallels with that today with the pushing of communist ideals and social and racial divisions that are being sown that need to be created before they can have their marxist revolution. Edited July 22, 2021 by Itsa 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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EnigmaticWorld Posted July 30, 2021 Author Share Posted July 30, 2021 "He wears a mask, and his face grows to fit it." - George Orwell 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted August 11, 2021 Author Share Posted August 11, 2021 (edited) What will become of the con artists if the world finds out? Probably best not to answer as people are already talking about the "painter" in the comments. Edited August 11, 2021 by EnigmaticWorld Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted August 17, 2021 Author Share Posted August 17, 2021 (edited) Well said. Are you really free if you can't shake off the incorrect lexicon that THEY want you to use? Edited August 17, 2021 by EnigmaticWorld 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted August 17, 2021 Author Share Posted August 17, 2021 4 hours ago, EnigmaticWorld said: Well said. Are you really free if you can't shake off the incorrect lexicon that THEY want you to use? Case and bloody point. Nazi Communist? That's a new one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itsa Posted December 18, 2021 Share Posted December 18, 2021 Senate House in London which was Orwells inspiration for the ministry of truth in 1984. The money for the building was provided by the Rockefeller foundation 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itsjaybigjay Posted December 18, 2021 Share Posted December 18, 2021 On 8/17/2021 at 6:30 PM, EnigmaticWorld said: Case and bloody point. Nazi Communist? That's a new one. They've been watching to much Simpsons!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted April 6 Author Share Posted April 6 (edited) On 7/13/2021 at 9:17 AM, EnigmaticWorld said: CapCom (Communist Capitalism) Anyone aware of a source for this quote because it sounds like the WEF's stakeholder capitalism? Edited April 6 by EnigmaticWorld Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted April 6 Author Share Posted April 6 On 12/18/2021 at 9:14 AM, Itsa said: Senate House in London which was Orwells inspiration for the ministry of truth in 1984. The money for the building was provided by the Rockefeller foundation I'm getting Keloid vibes from that building. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Grapes Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 On 4/6/2023 at 1:19 AM, EnigmaticWorld said: Anyone aware of a source for this quote because it sounds like the WEF's stakeholder capitalism? Here is an article on Mcdonald by a centre left magazine. https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/12/02/larry-mcdonald-communists-deep-state-222726/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Grapes Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 (edited) On 4/6/2023 at 1:19 AM, EnigmaticWorld said: Anyone aware of a source for this quote because it sounds like the WEF's stakeholder capitalism? Here are the sources: 36. McDonald, Lawrence P. Introduction. The Rockefeller File. By Gary Allen. Seal Beach, CA: '76 Press, 1976. ISBN 0892450010. 37. Quotes by Pat Buchanan and Others on the New World Order. The Internet Brigade. Retrieved 2009-08-24. Edited April 10 by Grumpy Grapes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted April 10 Author Share Posted April 10 6 minutes ago, Grumpy Grapes said: Here are the sources: 36. McDonald, Lawrence P. Introduction. The Rockefeller File. By Gary Allen. Seal Beach, CA: '76 Press, 1976. ISBN 0892450010. 37. Quotes by Pat Buchanan and Others on the New World Order. The Internet Brigade. Retrieved 2009-08-24. Nice one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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