John Rice Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 Does Autism Spectrum Disorder really exist or is it just another method of controlling people like the overdiagnosis of ADHD and related cognitive/behavioral disorders? I know there are disorders within the autism spectrum diagnosis that exist, especially ones catering to perception of sound, auditory/hearing complications, speech difficulties, etc. However, does the use of a broad range of diagnoses make it easier for government entities to control people with an autism diagnosis? Share your thoughts. I'd also like to know if Icke has an opinion on this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simple Actions Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 47 minutes ago, John Rice said: Does Autism Spectrum Disorder really exist or is it just another method of controlling people like the overdiagnosis of ADHD and related cognitive/behavioral disorders? I know there are disorders within the autism spectrum diagnosis that exist, especially ones catering to perception of sound, auditory/hearing complications, speech difficulties, etc. However, does the use of a broad range of diagnoses make it easier for government entities to control people with an autism diagnosis? Share your thoughts. I'd also like to know if Icke has an opinion on this. I would say, that for most of the ''disorders'' they classify people with, (especially nowadays) most of it is just like classifying free-thinkers as an ''infectious'' disorder. Most of the so called diagnosis that ends up in class of Autism is mostly the also so called OCD or mild OCD........a lot of people have the same sensory limits to certain situations as in sounds, light, too bright, too loud, not keen on staying too long in one single place, very independent, not really social, feeling always outside the group, feeling of not belonging in a certain place or most places.....very calculistic etc.... And i believe most think outside the box constantly therefore not in agreement with the common way the system works, therefore being classed as ''something''.... If it makes sense...? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itsjaybigjay Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 Basically its just part of the control system, they take any differences or individualism away from what they want which is a complaint slave. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sterna Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 It definitely exists. Try spending a day looking after someone living with severe autism if you are in any doubt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 4 hours ago, John Rice said: Does Autism Spectrum Disorder really exist I believe that there is neurological damage being caused by the vaccines yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethel Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 8 minutes ago, Macnamara said: I believe that there is neurological damage being caused by the vaccines yes How many Autistic people have you met and spent time with in the space of your lifetime? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Ethel said: How many Autistic people have you met and spent time with in the space of your lifetime? i used to work in a hospital department looking after some the vaccines are damaging people and i think this is causing certain things to happen For example this teacher has said that all the children in her school who are now reporting gender identity issues are autistic. There is a massive uptick in gender identity issues. School has SEVENTEEN children changing gender as teacher says vulnerable pupils are being 'tricked' into believing they are the wrong sex The Mail On Sunday reveals that 17 pupils are in the process of changing gender Most of children undergoing transformation are autistic according to teacher This means that 150 autistic teenagers were issued with puberty blocker drugs https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6401593/Whistleblower-teacher-makes-shocking-claim-autistic.html Another thing that is happening is that society is becoming more withdrawn and more self-isolating. This will benefit the elites agenda to merge people with machines Edited July 10, 2021 by Macnamara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Rice Posted July 10, 2021 Author Share Posted July 10, 2021 4 hours ago, Simple Actions said: I would say, that for most of the ''disorders'' they classify people with, (especially nowadays) most of it is just like classifying free-thinkers as an ''infectious'' disorder. Most of the so called diagnosis that ends up in class of Autism is mostly the also so called OCD or mild OCD........a lot of people have the same sensory limits to certain situations as in sounds, light, too bright, too loud, not keen on staying too long in one single place, very independent, not really social, feeling always outside the group, feeling of not belonging in a certain place or most places.....very calculistic etc.... And i believe most think outside the box constantly therefore not in agreement with the common way the system works, therefore being classed as ''something''.... If it makes sense...? My thoughts exactly. I think Autism is being easily over diagnosed not because there are more people getting autism but because the definition of autism according to our modern medicine is shifting. This is my main problem with any kind of Psychology, it's all mostly susceptible to the whims of the zeitgeist and what whatever changes are happening sociologically. Many aspects of Psychology are just based on methods of controlling society by dividing and conquering every citizen. You have ADHD and they will pump you up with amphetamines to keep you "in line" with crony capitalist society. Such a shame. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Rice Posted July 10, 2021 Author Share Posted July 10, 2021 1 hour ago, Macnamara said: i used to work in a hospital department looking after some the vaccines are damaging people and i think this is causing certain things to happen For example this teacher has said that all the children in her school who are now reporting gender identity issues are autistic. There is a massive uptick in gender identity issues. School has SEVENTEEN children changing gender as teacher says vulnerable pupils are being 'tricked' into believing they are the wrong sex The Mail On Sunday reveals that 17 pupils are in the process of changing gender Most of children undergoing transformation are autistic according to teacher This means that 150 autistic teenagers were issued with puberty blocker drugs https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6401593/Whistleblower-teacher-makes-shocking-claim-autistic.html Another thing that is happening is that society is becoming more withdrawn and more self-isolating. This will benefit the elites agenda to merge people with machines The last sentence caught my eye, because it's so true... Gen z and the Millenial generations are regarded as the 'loneliest' of all past generations. Just goes to show that the elite classes that control the world are taking an entirely psychological/sociological approach to their warfare on humanity. There's no need for militaristic insurrections, alien invasions, etc etc. Infact, you don't even need any advanced technology that caters to mind control. It can all easily be done by the manipulation of human psychology. I do think though that the earliest humans lived longer, possessed stronger foresight, wisdom, intellect, and mental acuity than current humanity could ever grasp. Perhaps at one time, maybe even the biblical times, there existed a distinct race that predated modern man that was superior in every aspect but was degraded over time by malevolent forces. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarianF Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 9 hours ago, John Rice said: Does Autism Spectrum Disorder really exist or is it just another method of controlling people like the overdiagnosis of ADHD and related cognitive/behavioral disorders? I know there are disorders within the autism spectrum diagnosis that exist, especially ones catering to perception of sound, auditory/hearing complications, speech difficulties, etc. However, does the use of a broad range of diagnoses make it easier for government entities to control people with an autism diagnosis? Share your thoughts. I'd also like to know if Icke has an opinion on this. When you have the power to just make shit up, you can call anything you want a disorder or a disease. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TetraG Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 2 hours ago, EnigmaticWorld said: This is just authorities way of sublimating (ridiculously) their embarrassed admission by how autistic minded people have power larger than life. Authorities don't know how else to handle it, it seems to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 5 minutes ago, TetraG said: This is just authorities way of sublimating (ridiculously) their embarrassed admission by how autistic minded people have power larger than life. Authorities don't know how else to handle it, it seems to me. No likes, but you might have a point. I was posting to see what people think about it, so I'm willing to hear all views. I don't personally have an opinion on the subject, but I noticed this article recently and thought it was worth the share. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TetraG Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 (edited) 12 hours ago, Simple Actions said: I would say, that for most of the ''disorders'' they classify people with, (especially nowadays) most of it is just like classifying free-thinkers as an ''infectious'' disorder. Most of the so called diagnosis that ends up in class of Autism is mostly the also so called OCD or mild OCD........a lot of people have the same sensory limits to certain situations as in sounds, light, too bright, too loud, not keen on staying too long in one single place, very independent, not really social, feeling always outside the group, feeling of not belonging in a certain place or most places.....very calculistic etc.... And i believe most think outside the box constantly therefore not in agreement with the common way the system works, therefore being classed as ''something''.... If it makes sense...? Great post SA, You could be right in that one thing can be construed as another (including a hazy one such as aspergers) since besides that mental health issues often overlap anyway, especially if wholisticly treated as any genuine treatment should be regarded... but where not the case and because the mental health system sucks, it could be accused that authority has its own agenda on the matter... Perhaps more on this later.. For now I'm mainly commenting on the end bit in the hopes this makes at least some rounded sense... Yes basicly... Being classified as "something" makes authorities less nervous but fact of the matter is they are still apprehensive I believe as they know they have to tread the line in matters of autism/aspergers for reasons of sensitivity (what of it can be defended and protected by the sufferer along with carers) ... But nevertheless its a scary thought to them the powers that be that people so young can wield such HIGH. intelligence. I mean who in any paranoid form of power governing us to keep us in check or maybe even constant check wants a "self knowing genius savant" not led or hired/employed and held by power as a point authority (appointed verses unappointed genius)... Especially if the autistic person is self knowing enough to be self aware of what their power is truly capable of!!.. and how that relates to the so called real world...and so where be if possible the autism person (or sufferer too lets not forget)... So, who knows -- this despite their difficulties can maybe break out of their introverted or inward mind 'shell' or 'goldfish bowl' sts, (and to turn their IQ to function outwardly as well as being savant affective in their own heads)... this inside-out intelligence I'm supposing could instead (or as well) enable a field of vision for seeing the world for what it really is (widening benefit of worlds where intelligence seen or unseen is influcenced on possible IQ self awareness assertion or self direction of some capability like normal IQ people do but with higher IQ to exceed all perceptions)... So I'm speculating such maybe possible in some autistics - I don't know.. But clearly by any semi capable or semi self aware autistic individual who sees very uniquely by their inner usual state of being, the power to go beyond their inner world would be immense if they could interact more freely in a mind consciously and intelligently not stripped of that due to the nature of the condition. Well.... When OR IF the autistic person were able to translate what he or she knows to impose on the powers that be, and if thats what gets them upset in seats of power, well, that woooouuuld be interesting!! .. so for whom that could impact in authority is the question and probably does present a problem/a threat even.... So this may reverberate or even upset authorities if all they view autism as is on the basis of threat alone. (which is kinda sad to say the least, but at the same time we have to know how to protect 'normal' people and autistics likewise, when the world is evolving so mindlessly out of synch with nature...) Going still further to the point about rejecting such dystopia and misrepresentation of mental health by authorities warping the true nature of disease or where an ill is rooted... This is the wrecklessness of mankind in the face of a very real cyborg AI agenda when given that we face, it beckons the need to address every *falsifying facet of power*, and of BACKWARD human evolution AKA RAT RACE TURNED TECHNOCRATIC HELL, and soooo what if instead the word 'backward' reattributed that would mean in a good sense of going forward, by a sort of positive devolution for mankind, LESS CLUTTERED & INCULCATED by the all consuming overkill of technology hijacking the human spirit, swamping us more & more DAY BY DAY... THINK!... Dare to be Human! Edited July 11, 2021 by TetraG 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TetraG Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 Slightly Edited --> in the latter part, looks like this--> NATURE -> the pre-possessing force of all life as we know it SHOULD NOT BE LOST... (Ask ~~~ Have we lost our minds ~~~ we will if over- burdened by technology- A Subjuncture in this thread but a TURNING POINT of the world..) ...Going still further to the point about rejecting such dystopia (and including misrepresentation of mental health by authorities warping the true nature of disease or where an ill is really rooted)... This is the wrecklessness and perversity of mankind in the face of a very real cyborg AI agenda when given that we face, it beckons the need to address every *falsifying facet of power*, and of BACKWARD human evolution AKA RAT RACE TURNED TECHNOCRATIC HELL, and soooo what if instead the word 'backward' reattributed that would mean in a good sense of going forward, by a sort of positive devolution for mankind, LESS CLUTTERED & INCULCATED by the all consuming overkill of technology hijacking the human spirit, swamping us more & more DAY BY DAY... THINK!... Dare to be Human! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 17 hours ago, John Rice said: The last sentence caught my eye, because it's so true... Gen z and the Millenial generations are regarded as the 'loneliest' of all past generations. Just goes to show that the elite classes that control the world are taking an entirely psychological/sociological approach to their warfare on humanity. There's no need for militaristic insurrections, alien invasions, etc etc. Infact, you don't even need any advanced technology that caters to mind control. It can all easily be done by the manipulation of human psychology. I do think though that the earliest humans lived longer, possessed stronger foresight, wisdom, intellect, and mental acuity than current humanity could ever grasp. Perhaps at one time, maybe even the biblical times, there existed a distinct race that predated modern man that was superior in every aspect but was degraded over time by malevolent forces. the social engineering is happening on different levels it is happening on a physical level as they make physical changes to peoples bodies by exposing society to endocrine disrupting chemicals which are feminising men, destroying sperm counts, causing genital deformities, causing early onset of puberty in girls and causing gender identity issues Then there is the psychological level where they seek to normalise the changes they are causing in the population by telling people that these changes should be celebrated and that anyone who tries to highlight what is going on is somehow a bad or hateful person when in fact they are just concerned at the total sabotage of the reproductive ability of the nations people Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManOfOdin Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 Welp, I am not going to listened to. But the fact is I have met a number of people as an Aspie Myself who basically are either dumb humpers or on the other genius about certain things. The reality is those labeled with Autism have almost barely any shared symptoms. The only thing they is a an extreme amount of repetitive movements but this also occurs in Neurotypicals. Usually this happens when the person is bored although us autistic people get bored all the damn time. What maybe going is simply the medicalization of traits unnecessary to capitalism and Psychopath Rule. I would say if Autism is a hoax that is why they made it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Useyournous Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 This may be the longest post I've ever written, sorry. I worked with children with autism when I was younger and my conclusion from that is most of the traits they are labelled with are the same as anyone, apart from the people who were profoundly affected and locked in their own bubble and needing high quality care. I would say the only stand out trait was a very nice one and that was the inability to plot and scheme. The rest were just handled badly. Of all the strategies, staff and 'experts' involved in their care, the low key and genuinely caring ordinary things worked. There was a handyman there who used to be very grandad like and ordinary with the children who was better with them than anyone. Just like the rest of us, they knew who was genuine. There were all these interventions and regimented behaviour management techniques but the handyman would say "now then Sam, pack that in!" and of course Sam would stop. He would also say of Sam's special interest in motorbike mirrors "what's new on the motorbike front Sam?" and have genuine interest in Sam's information. Brilliant! Just like anyone, they know what's what. I'd like to tie this in with 'mental health' which I feel is an umbrella that is too big to be practical. Out of respect for people who suffer terribly with many mental health illnesses like schizophrenia, bi polar, psychosis, psychosis after childbirth, clinical depression. OCD, agoraphobia.....well there are so many and I am not too well up on them but I know all of them are hideous for a person to suffer. What I'm not comfortable with, I think some psychopaths get themselves labelled with bi polar or Asperger syndrome because its a better label. Also a friend's daughter has reached puberty and they are labelling her with mental health issues, where as I think hold your horses there, hasn't she got teenage angst?! I was like Linda Blare in the exorcist when I was 13! Now whether I turned out normal I am unsure but I don't harm anyone haha! Stephen Fry is mentioned in the mega thread and he apparently has bi polar. One of my neighbours is also supposed to have it but to me she has borderline personality disorder from what she demonstrates. What I'm saying is let people be individuals and all the real weirdos who have actually got harmful personality disorders be under their own umbrella. They should not be grouped with people who are innocent and sometimes very poorly with it who need care and respect! I really hope this doesn't offend anyone decent. I just want to stick up for certain people who get negative labels unfairly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr H Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 These terms are concepts. I supposidly have ADD. To me I do not describe myself as that. My brain just functions differently. Indeed, I imagine that if we examined everyone's behaviour and brain function, we would see that everyone's is different and could come with thousands of names for everyone's particular brain function. The experience of so called ADD for me has been I experience a tremendous amount of stimuli and it used to completely overwhelm me. When I was younger this would express itself in funny loud noises - which I don't do now. And at school it was difficult to learn because it would take me a bit longer to find the answer because I would have to process so many stimuli at once it just takes longer to focus my attention on the one answer. At school they didn't understand this and it's all about quick answers etc. Still I managed to get a degree and a masters despite that learning environment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam3880 Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 (edited) It exists, I get asked am I autistic every now and then However to me it's just a coping mechanism, my parents divorced when I was young and I felt very isolated and it seemed to make me a bit autistic and quite eccentric , if I was a few years younger I'd have probably been given a label In the right environment though I don't feel autistic I just felt I had no other option, it was kind of a rebellious thing for me, I wanted to follow my dads my, my mum wanted me to follow her way, she won and I withdrew and rebelled, but she doubled down when I did and I doubled down even more Edited September 5, 2021 by Liam3880 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatthefoxhat Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 On 9/4/2021 at 7:26 AM, Useyournous said: This may be the longest post I've ever written, sorry. I worked with children with autism when I was younger and my conclusion from that is most of the traits they are labelled with are the same as anyone, apart from the people who were profoundly affected and locked in their own bubble and needing high quality care. I would say the only stand out trait was a very nice one and that was the inability to plot and scheme. The rest were just handled badly. Of all the strategies, staff and 'experts' involved in their care, the low key and genuinely caring ordinary things worked. There was a handyman there who used to be very grandad like and ordinary with the children who was better with them than anyone. Just like the rest of us, they knew who was genuine. There were all these interventions and regimented behaviour management techniques but the handyman would say "now then Sam, pack that in!" and of course Sam would stop. He would also say of Sam's special interest in motorbike mirrors "what's new on the motorbike front Sam?" and have genuine interest in Sam's information. Brilliant! Just like anyone, they know what's what. I'd like to tie this in with 'mental health' which I feel is an umbrella that is too big to be practical. Out of respect for people who suffer terribly with many mental health illnesses like schizophrenia, bi polar, psychosis, psychosis after childbirth, clinical depression. OCD, agoraphobia.....well there are so many and I am not too well up on them but I know all of them are hideous for a person to suffer. What I'm not comfortable with, I think some psychopaths get themselves labelled with bi polar or Asperger syndrome because its a better label. Also a friend's daughter has reached puberty and they are labelling her with mental health issues, where as I think hold your horses there, hasn't she got teenage angst?! I was like Linda Blare in the exorcist when I was 13! Now whether I turned out normal I am unsure but I don't harm anyone haha! Stephen Fry is mentioned in the mega thread and he apparently has bi polar. One of my neighbours is also supposed to have it but to me she has borderline personality disorder from what she demonstrates. What I'm saying is let people be individuals and all the real weirdos who have actually got harmful personality disorders be under their own umbrella. They should not be grouped with people who are innocent and sometimes very poorly with it who need care and respect! I really hope this doesn't offend anyone decent. I just want to stick up for certain people who get negative labels unfairly. You only have to look at the DSMV (the bible of US mental elf diagnoses and increasingly UK) from its inception and the amount of syndromes and conditions to the behemoth it has become today (sorry i cant remember the figures but it was few to literally hundreds now) but the best bit is there is a pharmaceutical intervention for every single one of them (including the ones where pharma intervention will have no effect whatsoever apart from stunning them ie psycopathy) Medicine of the mind is destructive in the extreme,as to specifically autism,look at the figures worldwide year on year and the increases, by 2030 every other child will be eligible for its label Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 14 minutes ago, whatthefoxhat said: as to specifically autism,look at the figures worldwide year on year and the increases, by 2030 every other child will be eligible for its label that's because by 2030 every other child will be severely vaccine damaged Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Useyournous Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 23 hours ago, whatthefoxhat said: You only have to look at the DSMV (the bible of US mental elf diagnoses and increasingly UK) from its inception and the amount of syndromes and conditions to the behemoth it has become today (sorry i cant remember the figures but it was few to literally hundreds now) but the best bit is there is a pharmaceutical intervention for every single one of them (including the ones where pharma intervention will have no effect whatsoever apart from stunning them ie psycopathy) Medicine of the mind is destructive in the extreme,as to specifically autism,look at the figures worldwide year on year and the increases, by 2030 every other child will be eligible for its label pharmaceutical industries predating those who are looking for help and answers, whilst also getting negative labels. What about no drugs and a positive label? Imagine a Dr saying you are just fine my good man, its the others who are bloody crackers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bamboozooka Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 if you have kids in primary school it quickly becomes obvious who the spectrum kids are. violent, knows no right or wrong, avoids eye contact. but schools hide it behind various acronyms. my sons year of 60 had at least 10 spectrum candidates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 (edited) brain damage is a thing. It exists If you don't believe that then go and work on a brain damage ward in a hospital There are things that can brain damage people for example exposure to certain toxins such as aluminium and mercury. Aluminium and a mercury derivative 'thimerosol' are in the vaccines and aluminium DOES cross the blood brain barrier and vaccines DO cause brain damage and the outward manifestations of that brain damage are shown as symptoms and those symptoms are lumped together under the umbrella term 'autism' and until adults are willing to be HONEST about this children will continue to be damaged Edited September 9, 2021 by Macnamara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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