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10 hours ago, 1velocity7 said:

forecasting 23 deg. a jump of 50%

 

if they could they'd keep temps cold so you are paying for heating all year.

but they wouldnt be able to push global warming

But the so-called high temps in May were caused by higher night temps (or not as low as they often are) - apparently has somethng to do with cloud cover

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19 hours ago, Grumpy Owl said:

 

It is the overnight low temperatures that everyone overlooks. So far this June, most lows have been in the single digits, ie less than 10C. This is why many people who have room thermostats - like myself - are noticing that their central heating is still coming on in the mornings.

 

The media loves to focus everyone on the 'scorching' daytime temperatures, but summer nights in the last couple of years have been very cool in comparison.

 

 

I wiosh there were some scorhing daytimwe temps, but most of June has been 15/16 and raining. It was 17/18 and raining instead today. Really scorching ... pffft

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On 6/13/2024 at 1:28 AM, Grumpy Grapes said:

 

"Greening the Hajj" 

 

According to a BBC World Service documentary, Climate scientists warn that last year's 2 million pilgrims at the Hajj, in Mecca, produced in 5 days roughly the amount of greenhouse gases that New York City emits in 2 weeks. Virtual reality could be a solution, some suggest. 

 

Several weeks later and the Hajj is in the news because of excess heat, apparently, though the 52 degrees some have reported doesn't tally with the mid 40s recorded by Accuweather. 

 

"Horrifying video shows bodies being loaded onto trucks and Hajj pilgrims passing out in the streets after 1,000 died in searing 50C heat during religious gathering in Mecca" 

 

https://davidicke.com/2024/06/22/horrifying-video-shows-bodies-being-loaded-onto-trucks-and-hajj-pilgrims-passing-out-in-the-streets-after-1000-died-in-searing-50c-heat-during-religious-gathering-in-mecca/

 

46 degrees was the max temp for June 6th to June 21st, according to this website:

https://www.visualcrossing.com/weather-history/Mecca%2CSaudi+Arabia

 

50 degrees was exceeded for the 'feels like' data, though. 

 

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On 6/22/2024 at 9:12 PM, Grumpy Grapes said:

 

Several weeks later and the Hajj is in the news because of excess heat, apparently, though the 52 degrees some have reported doesn't tally with the mid 40s recorded by Accuweather. 

 

"Horrifying video shows bodies being loaded onto trucks and Hajj pilgrims passing out in the streets after 1,000 died in searing 50C heat during religious gathering in Mecca" 

 

https://davidicke.com/2024/06/22/horrifying-video-shows-bodies-being-loaded-onto-trucks-and-hajj-pilgrims-passing-out-in-the-streets-after-1000-died-in-searing-50c-heat-during-religious-gathering-in-mecca/

 

46 degrees was the max temp for June 6th to June 21st, according to this website:

https://www.visualcrossing.com/weather-history/Mecca%2CSaudi+Arabia

 

50 degrees was exceeded for the 'feels like' data, though. 

 

 

Reminds me of about ten or so years ago, I was on a train coming back from London. I overheard a conversation between a couple of other passengers sitting across the aisle from me. They were both heading to Bicester Village for shopping, or something like that. Anyway it transpired that the one lady was from Kuwait, and she revealed that she regularly came to England during the summer for a few weeks to get away from the heat back home, "it often gets above 50C" I'm sure she said.

 

The media take every opportunity to shove climate change in everyone's faces, by presenting such weather events as "new" or "unprecedented".

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https://greatgameindia.com/chemicals-from-east-palestine-train-disaster-spread-to-16-states-study/

 

Chemicals released during the Norfolk Southern train derailment in East Palestine, Ohio, on February 3, 2023, including vinyl chloride, spread to 16 states and possibly Canada, as revealed by a study published in Environmental Research Letters.

Chemicals From East Palestine Train Disaster Spread To 16 States: Study 1
Toxic chemicals released during fires following the Norfolk Southern train derailment in Ohio last year spread to 16 states and likely Canada, according to a study released Wednesday.

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Germany vs Denmark Euro 2024 match suspended due to thunder & lightening  ⛈️

 

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35: Claps of thunder crash down from above and Michael Oliver has blown his whistle and halted the game.

The referee is not taking any chances with the welfare of the players.

This is the right call.

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Hailstones have now arrived. The fans are darting for cover, others are using the pre-match tifo sheets.

UEFA will make an announcement on the resumption of the match in due course.


there must have never been T&L during a football match ever before 😅

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Labour to allow more ridiculous on shore wind, as it eases the restrictions. 

 

https://montelnews.com/news/357824c0-789e-4428-aaec-4391a80301ad/labour-would-overturn-ban-on-uk-onshore-wind-shadow-minister

 

In its manifesto, released last week, Labour confirmed it aims to “work with the private sector” to double onshore wind, triple solar and quadruple offshore wind capacity by 2030.

 

We are have situation where the inmates are running the asylum. 

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The First Global Revolution 

A report by the Club

Of Rome

1991

The Common Enemy Of Humanity  Is

Man

Chapter 5 The Vacuum (!)

" In

searching for

a new enemy

to unite us

we ( came up with ) suggested that pollution,the threat of global warming,water shortages, famine etc 

 

Would Fit The Bill...

 

The real enemy is man itself "

 

And the same groups that create the problem and perceived problems give us  their solutions 

To follow the experts again 

 

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The UK's Met Office collaborates with the UK's NATIONAL SPACE OPERATIONS CENTRE.


"The National Space Operations Centre (NSpOC) is led by UK Space Command and the UK Space Agency, in partnership with the Met Office. The NSpOC operates and develops the UK’s space surveillance and protection capabilities.

 

"UK Space Command is a joint command based at RAF High Wycombe in Buckinghamshire. It is staffed by personnel from the Royal Navy, British Army, and Royal Air Force, alongside civil servants and contractors. UK Space Command’s mission is to protect and defend UK and allied interests in, from, and to space.

 

"UK Space Command continues the UK’s commitment to the Combined Space Operations initiative with Australia, Canada, France, Germany, New Zealand, and the US, to ensure a safe, secure and stable space domain.

 

UK Space Command also controls the UK’s participation in the US-led space coalition under Operation Olympic Defender, a multinational coalition formed to deter hostile actors in space and reduce the spread of debris in orbit. It also supports the growth of the NATO space enterprise."

 

https://www.raf.mod.uk/what-we-do/uk-space-command/

 

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OK so with the climate change thing (and folks go easy with me) I'm iffy with the motive being to control people's money and accessibility to power.

 

I mean Jesus hasn't the oil industry stitched that one well and truly up? We've had a handful of conglomerates fixing the prices, controlling supply, years of proxy wars in the middle east.

 

Fossil fuels have hardly created a utopian landscape now have they?

 

 

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London must prepare for floods and heatwaves

 

So says the London Climate Resilience Review...

 

London's trees are under threat from heatwaves, wildfires & wind storms.

 

43% of London properties likely to be affected by subsidence by 2030.

 

Its extreme & non-negotiable. Sounds serious. More funding is required surprisingly.

 

 

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https://greenmedinfo.com/content/saturated-science-new-study-challenges-co2-climate-narrative

Interesting new study  published in Applications in Engineering Science ,by scientists at the Military University of Technology in Poland 

 

Likewise independent researchers like Randall Carlson  contend that increases in co2 having positive effect on biosphere 

 

Article suggests we should have less myopic focus  on co2 + methane   and open discussion  on how we affecting environment be asking  questions on how

 

micro plastics & oil  industry as whole with toxins  are polluting us and environment

 

 

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12 hours ago, Talorgan said:

https://greenmedinfo.com/content/saturated-science-new-study-challenges-co2-climate-narrative

Interesting new study  published in Applications in Engineering Science ,by scientists at the Military University of Technology in Poland 

 

Likewise independent researchers like Randall Carlson  contend that increases in co2 having positive effect on biosphere 

 

Article suggests we should have less myopic focus  on co2 + methane   and open discussion  on how we affecting environment be asking  questions on how

 

micro plastics & oil  industry as whole with toxins  are polluting us and environment

 

 

Although it seems debris from meteorite/ comets(  which have geologically regular occurrence)

into upper atmosphere 

cause short term nuclear winter & longer term global warming effect from release of co2 ,forest fires  etc evidenced by coastline  changes etc & interrupting/ slowing  the timing in 

inter glacial Milankovitch model of glacial ice age cycles (due to Earths  orbital variations etc)

 

So suppose man made " industrial activities" & forest fires + ,geoengineering  can do same to an extent ?

Question is to what extent

factoring in the unscientific bias modelling for carbon credit scams etc 

This latest look at co2  saturation and it's  implications ,

So  can attempts to adjust the climate be worse outcome than not doing so or perhaps some middle path like planting more indigenous trees

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On 7/24/2024 at 1:24 PM, Sit down, Waldo said:

London must prepare for floods and heatwaves

 

So says the London Climate Resilience Review...

 

London's trees are under threat from heatwaves, wildfires & wind storms.

 

43% of London properties likely to be affected by subsidence by 2030.

 

Its extreme & non-negotiable. Sounds serious. More funding is required surprisingly.

 

 

They've turned the planet into a giant microwave oven, and built on every available open space. What the fuck do they expect?

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22 hours ago, Talorgan said:

Well, we've got to have AI because, well, AI - so datacentres are it. Let the useless eaters suffer instead (although might be able to use datacsntres to heat their homes). Anyway, geoengineering is working again (so we are all saved!) as it's raining and about 16 degrees after a couple of nice sunny days

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