How can we contribute to making Britain great again?

[wideawake]

Any inputs from any members would be welcome as we may all have to come to that level in the near future.

Any ideas?

[Simple Actions]

7 minutes ago, wideawake said:

 

Yes and if you look at how serious the situation is world wide and people commit to an association I would highly suggest a monetary commitment or equipment as collateral to help grow a separate society and at the same time if one particular member was to be excluded from the association for  misbehaving or laziness, his collateral would be confiscated by the association. That would be a clear understanding from the start and it would eliminate the non serious member trying to take advantage of the association.

 

Yes, it is a delicate matter in which the habits of previous life routines would have to be treated in a delicate way making sure the whole awareness of a "close community" would be clear.

A back to basics daily life is not  for everyone who have been so  used to a luxurious roof over their heads.

Many sections of the whole subject has a few misleading or not well understood realities.

But keeping all "wheels on the ground" is the important part.

[wideawake]

8 minutes ago, Simple Actions said:

 

Yes, it is a delicate matter in which the habits of previous life routines would have to be treated in a delicate way making sure the whole awareness of a "close community" would be clear.

A back to basics daily life is not  for everyone who have been so  used to a luxurious roof over their heads.

Many sections of the whole subject has a few misleading or not well understood realities.

But keeping all "wheels on the ground" is the important part.

Like a need for vetoed reliable leaders to organize it properly and be the voice of all, fully transparent of course.

Edited July 11, 2021 by wideawake

[wideawake]

Sorry for derailing. We could discuss more in the Solution Section...

 

 

[karmaxxxx]

On 7/10/2021 at 1:25 PM, TetraG said:

Btw...

 

Just for clarity where upon similar words appearing alike may differ.  

 

"Co-operatives"...  (I guess they can exist of various kinds, or various guises), as in "intentional communities" as my favorite err possible route to sanity, I trust maybe worded as "co-operative" sometimes too, (am I right or no?) perhaps by having synonymous comparison to "intentional communities" as I guess underpinning any ethical deals made from iiiideals or self sufficient measures for a movement making a move toward freedom or semi independancy ...ie, only daring to be co-dependent within its own remit or multi group mutual aid.  (such as when basic allegiances OR responsibilities are established by merits of group consensus aims AND whereby dwellings are within sensible geographic reach able to offer helping out other groups of like mind) so co-dependent maaaaybe ONLY WITHIN TRUSTED GROUP(S) OR COLLECTIVE(S) which naturally would evolve over time a sense of trust and inter community collaboration - spear heading OVERALL INDEPENDENCY WHERE PRACTICABLE & rightly so if desirable and doable in respect of that group effort if people that share the same collective inter-related interests do so in respect of each other individually also, with life affirmating principles coming first but which in turn just as importantly are based on a shared broader vision to make people question their "corp seduced slave life choices" and instead opt for intentional communities dotted about everywhere, all with prerty much similar values that cannot be ignored, such as in the rise of veganism.  

 

Well, thats all good I suppose, HOPE SO as what else is there short of living life completely wild,

 

Where CLARITY is concerned then... yes... THAT, in my above post,  was meaning to state by juxtapose my use of word "co-opt", by which th3 negative it was quite different by meaning not good to buy into or to acquiessingly take share of by supporting something bad inadvertently or by fool-hardiness...

 

(I hate to say "but" here.... buuuut which at least as temporary thing some of us may not always be given the choice 100% to abandon all  depending on strength of our " will & drive" (funny - almost made typo and almost wrote "drivel" to my own amusement)  or self/group innovation or circumstances or bredth of closely alligned social infastructure, yet I for one of course I am like anybody serious trying to let go of unhelpful entities in the long run starting in some ways NOW) 

very good, I did actually study the Essenes some years ago and what you and @Macnamara @Simple Actions and others are talking about is what these people did.

though they did interact with others not of there clan, it was very minimally . and they did where possible keep themselves to themselves, living mostly in the wilderness or by rivers lakes etc. . the man Jesus was supposed to be an Essene as well as John the Baptist. then more recent examples the monks of Tibet, what do they all have in common? Not anything religious but they were all SELF-SUFFICIANT. and if I remember correctly so are the Shamans and indigenous peoples of south America, also Africans and the aborigines. and many of these peoples talked of NOT following the blind as it leads to destruction, and for those religiously minded it states that in the the scriptures also , so there seems to be a strong link to a human understood truth from long ago. You are your own keeper you are responsible for you, be at peace with your natural surrounding and be as one with the Earth, but if you do these things and harm befalls you by the wicked ones they will pay a price far more than they counted on, as its not free will. but also remember the nail that stands high will surely be hit first. keep to your truths and do it peacefully and quietly with your likeminded brethren and let nothing deter you from you goals. yes we will be ridiculed by others and probably made to suffer many hardships, but when you Co-op with others of a like mind you gather strength in numbers. and yes barter is all that we need to co-exist and plenty of handy people the fixers I call them. Each of us has a skill maybe we just don't know it yet: and I am not talking some new age hippy commune thing here either. everyone supports everyone be it young old woman man or his dog. I can clearly see many many fringe dwellers on this site or very close to it already and that believe it or not enlightens me, because of these people we have got a very good chance especially our children. and that's all we need are strength is each other. sorry if I didn't articulate this properly but best I could put together off the top of my head, and I thank each of you for your contributions as its been brilliant reading your thoughts.

[wideawake]

@karmaxxxx

Well said and the way you say it, you hit it on the nail..

Thank you

[karmaxxxx]

3 minutes ago, wideawake said:

@karmaxxxx

Well said and the way you say it, you hit it on the nail..

Thank you

thank you that  means a lot lets keep this rolling its really a positive thread

[wideawake]

@karmaxxxx

Well, it was about make Britain great again and now we're talking surviving when SHTF. 

 

I didn't want to derail the tread. I assume anything positive is good... 

[Simple Actions]

16 minutes ago, karmaxxxx said:

very good, I did actually study the Essenes some years ago and what you and @Macnamara @Simple Actions and others are talking about is what these people did.

though they did interact with others not of there clan, it was very minimally . and they did where possible keep themselves to themselves, living mostly in the wilderness or by rivers lakes etc. . the man Jesus was supposed to be an Essene as well as John the Baptist. then more recent examples the monks of Tibet, what do they all have in common? Not anything religious but they were all SELF-SUFFICIANT. and if I remember correctly so are the Shamans and indigenous peoples of south America, also Africans and the aborigines. and many of these peoples talked of NOT following the blind as it leads to destruction, and for those religiously minded it states that in the the scriptures also , so there seems to be a strong link to a human understood truth from long ago. You are your own keeper you are responsible for you, be at peace with your natural surrounding and be as one with the Earth, but if you do these things and harm befalls you by the wicked ones they will pay a price far more than they counted on, as its not free will. but also remember the nail that stands high will surely be hit first. keep to your truths and do it peacefully and quietly with your likeminded brethren and let nothing deter you from you goals. yes we will be ridiculed by others and probably made to suffer many hardships, but when you Co-op with others of a like mind you gather strength in numbers. and yes barter is all that we need to co-exist and plenty of handy people the fixers I call them. Each of us has a skill maybe we just don't know it yet: and I am not talking some new age hippy commune thing here either. everyone supports everyone be it young old woman man or his dog. I can clearly see many many fringe dwellers on this site or very close to it already and that believe it or not enlightens me, because of these people we have got a very good chance especially our children. and that's all we need are strength is each other. sorry if I didn't articulate this properly but best I could put together off the top of my head, and I thank each of you for your contributions as its been brilliant reading your thoughts.

 

Thank you very much!

Its always nice to hear words that are sadly vanishing nowadays..

But yes this is a very tough subject in which sadly enough should not be sad nor difficult because its about all want We once upon a time were, lived and experienced....the free living.....the great freedom to live, the great healthy food we took for granted that now is considered Luxury food!

All that nowadays is being ridiculed and dismissed at all costs...

[Simple Actions]

12 minutes ago, wideawake said:

I didn't want to derail the tread. I assume anything positive is good... 

 

Lol......well....in my opinion as long as its relevant to the ONE thing we All are fighting for, its all good.

Inspirational, constructive and infectious positivity towards solutions! That is what i stand for the most.

I gave up on duelling on subjects that becomes a never ending spiral especially about the daily "bad news" that does not help at all.....

I am focussed on the solutions because the time spent on sharing the constant daily bad news which for some is handy to know (i get that) but does steal the precious limited time to focus on solutions.

"Focus, time, limited".....all these are crucial because of the above mentioned.....We all are already aware the speed in which "The Big Wigs" are trying to silence and stop people like us and "kill some time" by delaying our train of thought.

Edited July 12, 2021 by Simple Actions

[wideawake]

1 minute ago, Simple Actions said:

Inspirational, constructive and infectious positivity towards solutions! That is what i stand for the most.

 

Same here  

2 minutes ago, Simple Actions said:

the precious limited time to focus on solutions.

 

Especially when they already planned to shutdown the internet as we use to know it.

It is ok to express our emotions on here at times but I noticed fewer planning on our part than criticism of the system.

As someone said: Wake up Freddy, the day is over.

[TetraG]

On 7/9/2021 at 5:39 PM, Starchild said:

@Macnamara

 Like I said, I already do this as much as I can. 

You're very condescending and sound a bit in denial. To repeat myself, you will not escape it unless you go and live off the grid, but I doubt you'll do that because you won't have internet access to post threads like the one above. And how will you pay for things that need delivering. 

Or if you need to collect things, you'll need a registered vehicle. As much as you point the finger at 'people like me' for having one or two smart devices, you'll be as culpable when you have no option but to use card payments, make phone calls, or even use your own vehicle.

 

Well, Macnamara has answered already adequately, yet I don't believe he was soley focusing just on you, although yes he was straight talking though as always he is, which I respect as he tells it like it is. However he is not or course I would say just targeting you personally. 

More so I would say targeting your mindset and challenging what you feed into.

 

ie, Accepting AI this and that, in every orifice of our being is not going to help. 

 

WHY PEOPLE GET STUCK IN ENTRAPMENT BY THE SYSTEM IS (and this is just the core example) >>

Life is complex becuase of the web of lies and the way that the system deliberately makes life difficult.

 

However solutions of the more simple narrative, although hard can give us fortitude in doing whats right... So when accepted to live a more simple life it CAN therefore offer us quite simple means once we accept gradually letting go of own individual smartass devices.

 

Don't get me wrong, much to my own distaste I fricken own one right now, (gifted me, not that this makes it much better BUT is my only one I've ever had, forgoing a desktop or so and so)  but is not a new one, so at least standing my own ground I don't go looking to get more of it or update to 5G in time for that.. As I'm having NOTHING to do with 5G.   

 

 

Edited whilst at the same time Macnamara replied. 

(pure incidence) 

Edited July 12, 2021 by TetraG

[TetraG]

8 hours ago, Simple Actions said:

 

Yes, it is a delicate matter in which the habits of previous life routines would have to be treated in a delicate way making sure the whole awareness of a "close community" would be clear.

A back to basics daily life is not  for everyone who have been so  used to a luxurious roof over their heads.

Many sections of the whole subject has a few misleading or not well understood realities.

But keeping all "wheels on the ground" is the important part.

 

Astonishing accuracy of truth!  :) meaning yes, not everyone is made or knows how to be an instant shaman overnight or whatever. 

[Macnamara]

15 minutes ago, TetraG said:

Well, Macnamara has answered already, and he was not purposefully focusing just on you, or equally the average person.

 

I didn't pull my punches because i wanted my post to be a splash of cold water in the face

 

Some people are still not seeing the smart-grid that is being constructed around them and which they are willingly participating in. It's only going to grow from here if people don't draw the line in the sand immediately

 

I drew my line in the sand a long time ago and did not go down the smart phone route. I have no 'apps', i have no facebook, i have no twitter, I have no instgram, i am not signed into youtube, i do not use google emails or search engine, i do not bank with the banks that had to be bailed out in 2008, i buy much of my food locally and organic, i'm growing some of my own food, i have no TV let-alone a smart tv, i have no smart meter, i will not take any jabs from the NHS, i boycott the big corporations as far as a i can (although i am always looking to make changes that will take more and more market share off them), i do not pay a TV licence, i do not buy newspapers from the mainstream media, i do not go to cinemas that give money to hollyweird.....i could go on and on and on about many changes from the big to the small that i have made and am making

 

On my own these steps will make little-to-no difference in the grand scheme. They only start to make a difference when MILLIONS of people start taking responsibility for the role that they and their money play in shaping our society and THAT is what needs to happen and if people who fancy themself 'awake' can't even make these kind of changes then we have NO CHANCE because if we can't do it then who will?

Edited July 12, 2021 by Macnamara

[Macnamara]

26 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

MILLIONS of people start taking responsibility for the role that they and their money play in shaping our society and THAT is what needs to happen and if people who fancy themself 'awake' can't even make these kind of changes then we have NO CHANCE because if we can't do it then who will?

 

this is why we are losing and will continue to lose

 

this is why things are going to get a whole lot worse before they can possibly stand a chance of getting better

 

if being locked down in your own home and being coerced into harmful jabs isn't enough for people to start thinking that they need to start taking some drastic steps to try and remould our society then i don't know what it will take

 

some people seem to be in denial about smart-tech and think that they can dance with the devil and emerge unscathed

 

I'm here to tell you that is not the case and i don't care if it ruffles your feathers because if we continue on down this path some ruffled feathers are going to be the least of your concerns.

[TetraG]

Wisdom (& Practical Wisdom) with added energy boost.  Irs all right there people^^ Macnamara knows his stuff.