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3 hours ago, peter said:

 

 

I have actually been there when cymatic experiments have been done ,different patterns form different frequencies,very impressive to see it first hand but I certainly didn't think that proved intelligent design,you obviously know more than me so I ask you again what are your reasons that make you think this is intelligent design

 

Likewise, I don't see any credible connection to intelligent design.

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3 hours ago, DarianF said:

 

Likewise, I don't see any credible connection to intelligent design.

Then maybe you've not looked as deeply as you think into cymatics. Please see this for an example:

 

https://thenarrowgateweb.com/2016/06/22/cymatics/

 

Did you know that music was produced before the 1950's at 432hz? Did you know that after the 50's it was raised to 440hz and has been since then? What effect do you think that might have on your body? Since of course, 55-60% of your body is made from water. Well, here is the effect in the picture I've attached. Clearly it's having a huge difference to your body. There's a video of Kanye West talking about an 808 frequency in all music, that none of us can hear, but it's in there. It's the solfeggio effect. Look that shit up. 

 

Also, look at the geometric shapes and patterns produced by resonant frequency. Did you notice that it produces Phi? Phi also encodes the physical dimensions of the human body. Crazy stuff, it's fascinating. And phi is found all through nature. Now if you're a social Darwinist then this is all coincidence, I say bollocks and it is not a coincidence at all, it reflects intelligent design.  Now surely none of that can be just down to pure coincidence now can it?

 

Sorry @XelNaga if I have ruined your thread bud, it really was not my intention to take it in this direction, I'm terribly sorry, my humble apologies. 🙇

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9 hours ago, Morpheus said:

id you know that music was produced before the 1950's at 432hz? Did you know that after the 50's it was raised to 440hz and has been since then? What effect do you think that might have on your body? Since of course, 55-60% of your body is made from water. Well, here is the effect in the picture I've attached. Clearly it's having a huge difference to your body. There's a video of Kanye West talking about an 808 frequency in all music, that none of us can hear, but it's in there. It's the solfeggio effect. Look that shit up. 

First of there is no proof that the solfeggio actually exists some say it does and some say it doesn't  and most don't know about it

As far as tuning to 440hz what difference does that make, to this day some Orchestras tune A to  415hz   441hz  432hz  and 440hz and there are mathematical reasons for each, you are not playing A all the time in case you haven't noticed music encompasses a hole range of frequencies depending what scale and mode you are playing in ,and within that  there are all different tunings, I never tune my guitar to standard A it is either it is always A flat or G sharp depending on the scale, Western style music comprise of tones and semi tones eastern style music is a whole new ball game with regards to that and the different incremental tones they use for their scales.

As far as the phi ratio is concerned,for life to exist as we know it the double helix molecule is required therefore it would be safe to assume that life and DNA emerged at the same time so if there is a mathematical constant in the twist governing the DNA structure it would also be safe to assume that said constant would be found throughout life, as all life uses the same simple building blocks . I bet there is a mathematical ratio for the formation of igneous rock after a volcanic eruption but no one has looked for it to my knowledge  

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9 hours ago, Morpheus said:

Then maybe you've not looked as deeply as you think into cymatics. Please see this for an example:

 

https://thenarrowgateweb.com/2016/06/22/cymatics/

 

Did you know that music was produced before the 1950's at 432hz? Did you know that after the 50's it was raised to 440hz and has been since then? What effect do you think that might have on your body? Since of course, 55-60% of your body is made from water. Well, here is the effect in the picture I've attached. Clearly it's having a huge difference to your body. There's a video of Kanye West talking about an 808 frequency in all music, that none of us can hear, but it's in there. It's the solfeggio effect. Look that shit up. 

 

Also, look at the geometric shapes and patterns produced by resonant frequency. Did you notice that it produces Phi? Phi also encodes the physical dimensions of the human body. Crazy stuff, it's fascinating. And phi is found all through nature. Now if you're a social Darwinist then this is all coincidence, I say bollocks and it is not a coincidence at all, it reflects intelligent design.  Now surely none of that can be just down to pure coincidence now can it?

 

Sorry @XelNaga if I have ruined your thread bud, it really was not my intention to take it in this direction, I'm terribly sorry, my humble apologies. 🙇

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Yes, sound frequencies can affect physical objects, obviously. Think of sound weapons as an example, or how a sonic boom from an aircraft can screw you up or smash windows if too close. But what does it have to with objective evidence for intelligent design? It's a measurable effect from nature. But how are you extrapolating intelligent design proof from it exactly?

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4 hours ago, peter said:

As far as tuning to 440hz what difference does that make

Did you look at the picture or not? In comparison to 432hz, does that geometric shape look stable or chaotic? Think about that for a second and consider the effects of music at 440hz, constantly playing and what effect that frequency has on your body. 

 

I assume like me, you think modern music is absolute garbage, why is that? I'd suggest the retuning is to not allow us to have a higher vibration through music. Can't have an enlightened mass now can we. 

 

Don't you agree that music can effect us in ways that many other things cannot? With that in mind, why is beyond the realms of possiblity that sound frequency is being used against us in this way? Darian above admits sound can be used as a weapon. I therefore propose that retuning has caused us issues in ways we cannot begin to perceive without this understanding of frequency on our bodies. 

 

As for solfeggio, we can agree to disagree on that one. 

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3 hours ago, DarianF said:

But how are you extrapolating intelligent design proof from it exactly?

From my original post of what Tesla said, vibration, frequency and magnetism. What else causes changes in vibration and frequency on our planet? Our earth has a resonant frequency of around 7.8hz (from memory, don't quote me) I believe. 

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13 hours ago, Morpheus said:

Then maybe you've not looked as deeply as you think into cymatics. Please see this for an example:

 

https://thenarrowgateweb.com/2016/06/22/cymatics/

 

Did you know that music was produced before the 1950's at 432hz? Did you know that after the 50's it was raised to 440hz and has been since then? What effect do you think that might have on your body? Since of course, 55-60% of your body is made from water. Well, here is the effect in the picture I've attached. Clearly it's having a huge difference to your body. There's a video of Kanye West talking about an 808 frequency in all music, that none of us can hear, but it's in there. It's the solfeggio effect. Look that shit up. 

 

Also, look at the geometric shapes and patterns produced by resonant frequency. Did you notice that it produces Phi? Phi also encodes the physical dimensions of the human body. Crazy stuff, it's fascinating. And phi is found all through nature. Now if you're a social Darwinist then this is all coincidence, I say bollocks and it is not a coincidence at all, it reflects intelligent design.  Now surely none of that can be just down to pure coincidence now can it?

 

Sorry @XelNaga if I have ruined your thread bud, it really was not my intention to take it in this direction, I'm terribly sorry, my humble apologies. 🙇

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No problem brother. You provided some interesting info, so thank you for that.

 

Besides, this thread was dead for some time, you guys brought it to life 😁

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3 hours ago, Morpheus said:

Did you look at the picture or not? In comparison to 432hz, does that geometric shape look stable or chaotic? Think about that for a second and consider the effects of music at 440hz, constantly playing and what effect that frequency has on your body. 

 

I assume like me, you think modern music is absolute garbage, why is that? I'd suggest the retuning is to not allow us to have a higher vibration through music. Can't have an enlightened mass now can we. 

 

Don't you agree that music can effect us in ways that many other things cannot? With that in mind, why is beyond the realms of possiblity that sound frequency is being used against us in this way? Darian above admits sound can be used as a weapon. I therefore propose that retuning has caused us issues in ways we cannot begin to perceive without this understanding of frequency on our bodies. 

 

As for solfeggio, we can agree to disagree on that one. 

1  first off, weather the picture looks stable or chaotic ,in my opinion is neither here nor there the pattern generated for a certain frequency is most likely different depending on the medium used

2 Yes I do think modern music is generally crap but certainly not all and that  has nothing to do with A's 440hz tuning. People generally like music that they themselves were brought up on I will listen to anything  from classical to thrash metal however, but I do have preferences just like anyone else, I draw the line at opera ,to me it sounds just like two people yelling at each other to music

3 Indeed music can change the way you feel it brings back memories at certain pivotal moments in a persons life but again it has nothing to do with 440hz

4 Of course there are sonic weapons, subsonic, ultrasonic and within normal hearing range but these are used with extremely high decibels (power) and are designed to permanently harm, kill or  at lower energy levels cause crowds to disperse  ,the assholes used one of them on the crowds at Canberra freedom rallies

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7 minutes ago, peter said:

1  first off, weather the picture looks stable or chaotic ,in my opinion is neither here nor there the pattern generated for a certain frequency is most likely different depending on the medium used

2 Yes I do think modern music is generally crap but certainly not all and that  has nothing to do with A's 440hz tuning. People generally like music that they themselves were brought up on I will listen to anything  from classical to thrash metal however I do have preferences just like anyone else, I draw the line at opera however,to me it sounds just like two people yelling at each other to music

3 Indeed music can change the way you feel it brings back memories at certain pivotal moments in a persons life but again it has nothing to do with 440hz

4 Of course there are sonic weapons, subsonic, ultrasonic and within normal hearing range but these are used with extremely high decibels (power) and are designed to permanently harm, kill or  at lower energy levels cause crowds to disperse  ,the assholes used them on the crowds at Camberra freedom rallies

You didn't watch the video did you. I'm not surprised. 

 

Well, I'm fully aware that you are unconvinced by most if not all arguments presented on this forum, I do wonder sometimes why you even bother to contribute because what I glean from you is institutionalised ideology and you appear to have great difficulty in breaking those axioms. I bid you well Peter, but let's not make any more assumptions of people's leanings towards religion on the whole being indoctrinated from birth because as we've found through this discussion, that sweeping generalisation is not correct.  👍

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On 7/4/2021 at 12:57 PM, XelNaga said:

Hello friends,

 

I was wondering if some of you here can explain to me why, oh why, should a person have a fear from God?

 

As much as I know, only Christians and Muslims preach that, and maybe perhaps Jews?

 

They say God is benevolent, they say God is love, etc.

 

Why the need for fear then?

 

Fear is a very negative emotion/energy, and only evil beings demand fear?

 

Please, enlighten me. Thanks..

 

The fear of the unknown has been running through the minds of men since we began to question the world in which we resided, no matter the climb one found ones self, when natural phenomenon change and was unkind to us, this alone gave certain signs that weather and its varying were indeed seasonal and sometimes chaotic, eventually we gave the task of changing climates and future problems to the shaman/observers amongst us.

 

Then something wonderful and even more terrible happened to our minds, we became alone amongst the animals and were taught to fear nature and death that often went together hand in hand and a new order was born, an order and god like creature that is still in vogue today.

 

In this talk by Thomas Sheridan he explains how we were all taught to fear death itself and where such fears eminated, probably after natural dissasters all over the world.

 

 

I really could be that simple.

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43 minutes ago, Morpheus said:

You didn't watch the video did you. I'm not surprised. 

 

Well, I'm fully aware that you are unconvinced by most if not all arguments presented on this forum, I do wonder sometimes why you even bother to contribute because what I glean from you is institutionalised ideology and you appear to have great difficulty in breaking those axioms. I bid you well Peter, but let's not make any more assumptions of people's leanings towards religion on the whole being indoctrinated from birth because as we've found through this discussion, that sweeping generalisation is not correct.  👍

Why do I need to be convinced you have your opinion and I have mine, if you have read some of my posts on other subjects to will know they certainly are not  mainstream.I just look at evidence as I see it I read extensively I tend not to look at videos ,simply because I like to think for myself ,as I said in the flat earth thread at least what I post are my thoughts and words, and as far as indoctrination goes I said a lot ,not all 

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19 hours ago, Morpheus said:

I would have to have a long think of where I saw this, but I'm sure I've heard that the Bible is missing several chapters, maybe as many as 10-15 from recollection. 

 

Well we know it is missing the gospel of Mary Magdelene. I would have thought that would have been included. But it was Constantine who decided what went in his Holy Book and he drew from many earlier Pagan sources. Hence the Bible we have from the Romans is a hodge podge of Pagan teachings mixed up with the Jesus story which is based on several prominent teachers of the time interwoven with the one who was crucified.

 

According to the spiritualists the real 'Jesus' was a man called Appolonius of Tyana, the teachings of the fictional biblical 'Jesus' were based on his teaching and those of the then leader of the Essenes as well as teachings of Hesus from the druids and Kristos from the Hindu's (Hesus Kristos - sound familiar?) Constantine also drew from other Pagan sources from Egypt and the Greeks.

 

Hence the Roman bible is a mixture of Paganism, Hinduism, Buddhism and Druidism, it sources from earlier Pagan stories ranging from Fertility cults to Solar and Nature cults.

 

Roman Christianity is a rebranding of earlier Pagan Mystery School teachings from Egypt - Quote 'Moses was filled with all the WISDOM of Egypt' The Bible, what do you think Wisdom was to the Ancients? It was spiritual and magical knowledge. The Bible tells you Moses was taught in those arts, so why should he not propogate that knowledge into the beginnings of Christianity? Christianity is a mystery school religion and the Christians are deceived by it and the likes of the Freemasons are even more deceived while believing they have more of the truth when in fact their deception goes higher.

 

Even though the bible has been edited to support a doctrine if you can see through it it still contains truth. It contains wisdom recorded over thousands of years by the ancients, the sermon on the mount contains true spiritual teaching. The words of the great sages have come down to us albeit in a distorted form.

 

All religions have a golden thread of truth, there is a God, you have a Soul, death is not the end. You are a part of the divine, you are a God and you have the ability to discern the truth. The kingdom of heaven is in your heart. No need for a Priest or intermediary between you and God, no need for a Church or Prayer 'If you pray, pray in secret' says the Bible, no need for Pagan superstitous theatrics like kneeling and clasping hands to pray, singing and chanting. God can't be beguiled by those Pagan methods. God the father is another Pagan superstitous belief. God is an omniscient, eternal, perfect being, it can be described with human terms and its the female of the species that gives birth so our creator is more likely to be a 'She' except I think when you get down to it God is both.

 

As for Hell, Satan, Lucifer, the Trinity, original sin, they are all Roman Christian myths. Or to put it another way - they are lies, put there to twist your brain and actually take you further from God rather than to it. They are the editing and distortions within the Roman and Roman derived bibles. The Romans translated the original texts into Latin and edited it to suit their purposes, then all subsequent bibles were taken from the Latin with the mistakes already included. Lucifer is nothing more than a typo in the original Latin.

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PS and could you explain why that sweeping generalization is not correct with regards to the discussion in this post

Also if you think I suffer from institutionalized ideology  you have only read my posts in this and the flatearth thread and my opinions on both are evidenced based as I see it .  I don't have a ideological bone in my body,which is obviously at odds with your opinion,fair enough 

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24 minutes ago, peter said:

PS and could you explain why that sweeping generalization is not correct with regards to the discussion in this post

Also if you think I suffer from institutionalized ideology  you have only read my posts in this and the flatearth thread and my opinions on both are evidenced based as I see it .  I don't have a ideological bone in my body,which is obviously at odds with your opinion,fair enough 

 

It's what happens when the points you've made hit a nerve.

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6 hours ago, Morpheus said:

From my original post of what Tesla said, vibration, frequency and magnetism. What else causes changes in vibration and frequency on our planet? Our earth has a resonant frequency of around 7.8hz (from memory, don't quote me) I believe. 

 

Yes, I believe you are referring to Schumann resonanceshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schumann_resonances ), which are variable, being affected by a variety of factors ( https://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/sunearth/news/gallery/schumann-resonance.html ). There are some scientific investigations of these resonances and their potential effects on biology of higher life forms ( here is one example - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2656447/ - from the journal Biomedicine & Pharmacotherapy ).

 

Edit: Will just add this one as well, @Morpheus:

 

Studying Earth’s Double Electrical Heartbeat

Charged by thunderstorms and other weather phenomena, the global electrical circuit connects the entire planet.

https://eos.org/features/studying-earths-double-electrical-heartbeat

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54 minutes ago, peter said:

PS and could you explain why that sweeping generalization is not correct with regards to the discussion in this post

Also if you think I suffer from institutionalized ideology  you have only read my posts in this and the flatearth thread and my opinions on both are evidenced based as I see it .  I don't have a ideological bone in my body,which is obviously at odds with your opinion,fair enough 

What I see Peter is that if there is a topic that doesn't correlate with your MS view of the world, you take every opportunity to deride and ridicule the people on that thread. I've also seen you use that same generalisation before and previously expressed that I felt that was nonsense before, because I'm the complete antipathy of your argument. I appreciate I may be or may not be few, but I feel you have a certain prejudiced view of people with faith.

 

However, I will admit there are absolute nuts and you will have that with the corruption of religion as a whole, which again I have expressed before, general extremism in fundamental religions happens a lot. But, that doesn't mean to say they continue with their faith because they've been indoctrinated from birth. Some absolutely do and I do not disagree with that

 

You claim however to have free thought (and accuse me of none for watching a well presented YouTube video on a topic I'm attempting to correlate as being intelligent design but you refuse to acknowledge any presentation of because it's on YouTube. It comes across as a little ignorant and as Einstein said, dismissal without research is the height of ignorance.) yet accuse, because of religion, they aren't able to demonstrate free thought. I just find that hypocritical and erroneous. 

 

I just don't think you have any alternative views at all and are well sat on your postage stamp. My opinion only of course. 

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