DarianF Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 Just now, Morpheus said: If you can get the name of it I would be interested to see it. It's my belief that we had such technology as little as 150-200 years ago. It's another rabbit hole but Jon Levi has done some very good work on the world's fairs, the gilded age and that period of time needs studying thoroughly, especially since the industrial revolution came out of it. Bear in mind we did fuck all technologically for 1000 years and then from nowhere we have this explosion of technology, philosophy and ideologies born from this period. Something about it all doesn't add up. The orphans of the 1840-1860 is interesting to me, why did we have so many orphnas? Where did all the adults go? It's a very interesting topic that I've been delving into for some time. I really can't mate I'm sorry. I gave up looking for it a while ago. But if I ever randomly come across it somewhere, I'll definitely let you know. Regarding these dark age periods, then sudden explosions of knowledge, there's probably not just one explanation. Maybe it's just a whole bunch of different things that come together at the right time? I don't know. There could be more to it. It's a fascinating thing to study, either way. I love the work of Graham Hancock (I know some people don't like him, but I think guys like him are really important in the ongoing investigations). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarianF Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 1 minute ago, EnigmaticWorld said: Even though I might disagree with the crazy part, I agree about not sitting back waiting for someone to fix our problems. Fair enough. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarianF Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 @Morpheus If you will, tell me more about the orphans of the 1840-1860 that you mentioned above. That's something I don't know about at all (or maybe I heard about it and forgot) but let me know what you've uncovered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 11 minutes ago, DarianF said: @Morpheus If you will, tell me more about the orphans of the 1840-1860 that you mentioned above. That's something I don't know about at all (or maybe I heard about it and forgot) but let me know what you've uncovered. "Tell me more, tell me more, did she put up a fight!" I introduce to you Mr Darian, a new rabbit hole of fun. Are you ready for a mind fuck? This is a start, if you're still interested after that I can show you more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarianF Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 2 minutes ago, Morpheus said: "Tell me more, tell me more, did she put up a fight!" I introduce to you Mr Darian, a new rabbit hole of fun. Are you ready for a mind fuck? This is a start, if you're still interested after that I can show you more. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Given To Fly Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, DarianF said: Drop everything, abandon your family, follow a crazy preacher through the desert. Yeah, great plan. If that's where He leads, then He knows better. I've learnt that, especially so-called friends and associates. He's pulled me away from them. What you're missing though is that Jesus gave believers authority over evil spirits and to trample on them. You're doing their job by secularising the world and seeing it through worldly eyes and like they, trying to rationalise and criticise the spiritual and supernatural, while they, behind closed doors, engage in it. The world is designed to lead you down a path to be weak spiritually, to be sinful and have a non-existent prayer life. God is far away from the wicked. (They've successfully psychologised and medicalised demonic oppression). The vast majority on here rightly lay blame for the world's ills at either freemasons, luciferians, satanists, wetiko, the synagogue of satan, q/kaballah, or Sabbatean frankists etc. All of this is spiritual/supernatural or engage in secret society occult rituals and activity. Basically witchcraft. How can a secular mindset defeat that ? Edited April 8, 2022 by Given To Fly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarianF Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 3 minutes ago, Given To Fly said: How can a secular mindset defeat that ? By staying away from stupid shit like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, DarianF said: Let's be honest, this is your argument full stop. One cannot have any faith in God unless they were indoctrinated and therefore by default, in your opinion, one cannot possibly have a thought of their own as a result because they're indoctrinated by the cult. Absolute bollocks Peter and you know it. That is not my argument at all ,some have religious experiences and find god others have a calling and enter the clergy .I said most people get their faith from their parents beliefs when they are young but not all there are exceptions to the rule ,I went to church and Sunday school when I was young,on me it has had the opposite effect. My claim is simple ,you don't need a god to be a decent person,if you do you are morally flawed to begin with Edited April 8, 2022 by peter 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 2 hours ago, Given To Fly said: If that's where He leads, then He knows better. I've learnt that, especially so-called friends and associates. He's pulled me away from them. What you're missing though is that Jesus gave believers authority over evil spirits and to trample on them. You're doing their job by secularising the world and seeing it through worldly eyes and like they, trying to rationalise and criticise the spiritual and supernatural, while they, behind closed doors, engage in it. The world is designed to lead you down a path to be weak spiritually, to be sinful and have a non-existent prayer life. God is far away from the wicked. (They've successfully psychologised and medicalised demonic oppression). The vast majority on here rightly lay blame for the world's ills at either freemasons, luciferians, satanists, wetiko, the synagogue of satan, q/kaballah, or Sabbatean frankists etc. All of this is spiritual/supernatural or engage in secret society occult rituals and activity. Basically witchcraft. How can a secular mindset defeat that ? I'm not going to explain it but don't you see the irony between the top and bottom paragraphs ,and since god is supposed to be all powerful I would have thought that he would have been able to stop all the nasty shit if he really wanted to ( I see you mentioned all the biggies ,and the Freemasons were first cab of the rank as usual) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 6 hours ago, ink said: How can I have "Fear" of something which I have no actual knowledge about? All within this place has been written by man .... I cannot "Fear" what I read or am told unless I chose to! I have always 'acted' in this 'life' by one thought .... I will not risk NOT being truly born for 3 score years and ten! This is a very simple way I see what this 'place' is .... The only actual reality is Potential (in that "no single thing" .... thus No Thing .... there is/was all that could be) .... there is NO other "real". Because there was the Potential for it .... a single awareness became. << you could call this god if you wish but it only has more knowledge than you at this point and didn't create the Potential. It also knew itself to be alone. The first awareness knew all of the Potential but as a "whole image" .... so it took the potential of Time and split all the possibilities into "streams" These "streams" became the real or 'reel' of which we read/view .... and some can author (or alter) the stories narrative. I have posted before that this 'place' is formed from the 2D potential as a 3D 'bubble' .... and I happened upon some supposed religion of 'Science' today that states: The Universe Is Flat — Now What? snip .... But average all those small-scale effects out and look at the big picture. When we examine very old light — say, the cosmic microwave background — that has been traveling the universe for more than 13.8 billion years, we get a true sense of the universe's shape. And the answer, as far as we can tell, to within an incredibly small margin of uncertainty, is that the universe is flat. https://www.space.com/34928-the-universe-is-flat-now-what.html Which made me Christ Ink you certainly are upping the anti,first is was just a flat earth and now its the whole bloody universe, you must be god 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Given To Fly Posted April 9, 2022 Share Posted April 9, 2022 14 hours ago, DarianF said: By staying away from stupid shit like that. Calling out the real power behind TPTB is "shit", shilling for NASA and being all about the science ... What has happened to you ? 11 hours ago, peter said: I'm not going to explain it but don't you see the irony between the top and bottom paragraphs ,and since god is supposed to be all powerful I would have thought that he would have been able to stop all the nasty shit if he really wanted to ( I see you mentioned all the biggies ,and the Freemasons were first cab of the rank as usual) Seems I hit a nerve with you by mentioning the freemasons Do you not want their agenda of high initiates having 'the seething powers of lucifer' revealed to the unsuspecting public ? 1 Corinthians 1:18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarianF Posted April 9, 2022 Share Posted April 9, 2022 3 minutes ago, Given To Fly said: Calling out the real power behind TPTB is "shit", shilling for NASA and being all about the science ... What has happened to you ? I've always loved science and I've never had a problem with NASA. I'm not sure why you would think otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarianF Posted April 9, 2022 Share Posted April 9, 2022 17 hours ago, Morpheus said: Nikola Tesla said the if you want to know the secrets of the universe then think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration. Different sounds and vibrations pulsed through water (which has its own memory and to which approximately 55-60% of your body is water) then different patterns are formed depending on the frequency. Those patterns have replicated the building blocks of life. I therefore propose, we have an electric universe that we can draw power from and actually, I believe we've previously had such knowledge of using. But that's another subject. This is a very interesting area to explore, but just be careful because the field is also scattered with a lot of woo woo. When you seperate the bullshit from the quality research, it's certainly interesting. Feel free to post more. I'd like to check it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarianF Posted April 9, 2022 Share Posted April 9, 2022 11 hours ago, peter said: Christ Ink you certainly are upping the anti,first is was just a flat earth and now its the whole bloody universe, you must be god If alexa sees this, we'll never hear the end of it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus Posted April 9, 2022 Share Posted April 9, 2022 (edited) 30 minutes ago, DarianF said: This is a very interesting area to explore, but just be careful because the field is also scattered with a lot of woo woo. When you seperate the bullshit from the quality research, it's certainly interesting. Feel free to post more. I'd like to check it out. Lots woo woo from the MS equally with their factual (hypothetical) theories. Yesterday's video was in hindsight a bad example as Jon was waffling a lot of shit at the beginning before actually presenting something solid. This however is a very good presentation of what I was attempting to talk about. That period of time is shifty as fuck and if you can believe some of the architecture that was knocked out in very little time, all made of specific stone that is not found in many places in the US. Not covered in this video per se, but consider Chatsworth House in Derbyshire England. A magnificent piece of architecture, but one has to wonder why they paid so much attention to such minor details and such a lavish expense for a such a people at that time. Why would you pay so much attention to a waterfall and position stones at certain angles/height to make it have a particular sound? That's one anomaly. Then we should consider that the fountain their didn't require a pump to shoot water 100 ft into the air when it originally worked. How the fuck did they do that? All the waterways, streams and rivers flow very near Chatsworth House which adds more mystery to it. Also bear in mind that the architect for Chatsworth was just the bloody gardener, who then miraculously designed crystal palace in London which faced the same fate as it's brothers and sisters in Leipzig, Paris and New York by being burnt to the ground in suspicious circumstances. Funny how all these structures met the same fate. These glass greenhouse structures were monsters, like 20 football fields in size, but you know, knocked up in 1-2 years in the 1800's a feet I don't believe would be as easily done now. If ever! Enjoy your new rabbit hole. Edited April 9, 2022 by Morpheus 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted April 9, 2022 Share Posted April 9, 2022 57 minutes ago, Given To Fly said: Seems I hit a nerve with you by mentioning the freemasons Do you not want their agenda of high initiates having 'the seething powers of lucifer' revealed to the unsuspecting public ? are you serious ,you obviously did fail to see the irony 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted April 9, 2022 Share Posted April 9, 2022 18 hours ago, Morpheus said: Cymatics for one, it's proof of an intelligent design. Why 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus Posted April 9, 2022 Share Posted April 9, 2022 3 minutes ago, peter said: Why Find out yourself. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted April 9, 2022 Share Posted April 9, 2022 2 hours ago, peter said: Why 2 hours ago, Morpheus said: Find out yourself. I have actually been there when cymatic experiments have been done ,different patterns form different frequencies,very impressive to see it first hand but I certainly didn't think that proved intelligent design,you obviously know more than me so I ask you again what are your reasons that make you think this is intelligent design 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarianF Posted April 9, 2022 Share Posted April 9, 2022 22 hours ago, Ellen80 said: If you study the top 3 religions, Judaism, Islam and Christianity, it appears Islam and Christianity are the 2 out of 3 religions that believe in an afterlife. Judaism or yahwism is atheism. Yahwism doesn't believe in the afterlife. Yahweh is money. Jews believe their paradise is right here on earth while Christians and Muslims believe in life after death. I don't know what to believe but I certainly don't worship money. I don't believe these psychopaths worship any gods but the god of money. Yahweh the earth god. Heaven and hell is for us peasants to argue over. The yahweh cult say they will live forever through blood, right here on earth. I'm just rambling, I think christians and Muslims need to unite against a common enemy. It seems to me the same tribe has been shit stirring for a long time. Good point. I didn't know that. Had to check it out, and you're right. Very interesting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarianF Posted April 9, 2022 Share Posted April 9, 2022 1 hour ago, peter said: I have actually been there when cymatic experiments have been done ,different patterns form different frequencies,very impressive to see it first hand but I certainly didn't think that proved intelligent design,you obviously know more than me so I ask you again what are your reasons that make you think this is intelligent design @Morpheus said somewhere above it has to do with tesla, the electric universe, etc. Maybe a page or two back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi3141 Posted April 9, 2022 Share Posted April 9, 2022 23 hours ago, DarianF said: That's a very good point. How much have the books of the bible been edited and or/completely hidden away. That's not something we can really debate, because who the hell knows. We don't have the evidence available to assess. The Anchor Bible series is a modern effort to re-translate the original writings. No editing and no transposing of doctrines. In it we find there is no mention of Hell or Lucifer and the doctrines of original sin and the Trinity etc have no basis in the original scriptures. Top scholars, linguists and religious theologians, with the benefit of the Rosetta stone and archaelogical discoveries have allowed the scholars to give us a faithfull translation of the original texts. In short, we now have access to the truth. Seek and ye shall find. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarianF Posted April 9, 2022 Share Posted April 9, 2022 Just now, pi3141 said: The Anchor Bible series is a modern effort to re-translate the original writings. No editing and no transposing of doctrines. In it we find there is no mention of Hell or Lucifer and the doctrines of original sin and the Trinity etc have no basis in the original scriptures. Top scholars, linguists and religious theologians, with the benefit of the Rosetta stone and archaelogical discoveries have allowed the scholars to give us a faithfull translation of the original texts. In short, we now have access to the truth. Seek and ye shall find. Sounds like a fun project. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus Posted April 9, 2022 Share Posted April 9, 2022 7 minutes ago, pi3141 said: The Anchor Bible series is a modern effort to re-translate the original writings. No editing and no transposing of doctrines. In it we find there is no mention of Hell or Lucifer and the doctrines of original sin and the Trinity etc have no basis in the original scriptures. Top scholars, linguists and religious theologians, with the benefit of the Rosetta stone and archaelogical discoveries have allowed the scholars to give us a faithfull translation of the original texts. In short, we now have access to the truth. Seek and ye shall find. I would have to have a long think of where I saw this, but I'm sure I've heard that the Bible is missing several chapters, maybe as many as 10-15 from recollection. Do you really think they'll give us a true translation of the Bible? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi3141 Posted April 9, 2022 Share Posted April 9, 2022 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Morpheus said: Do you really think they'll give us a true translation of the Bible? I do, the scholars have no dog in the fight. In fact they are more likely to give us the unadulterated truth as some of them are iconoclasts looking to tear down the accepted order. We have the advantage of modern knowledge, they can't hide it. I think in their quest to dispel myth they have revealed the truth. Edited April 9, 2022 by pi3141 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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