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2 hours ago, Gnostic Christian said:

I do not see him as such, given that he put man above God.

 

That is what the holders of the oral traditions which is what leads Jewry and what Jesus taught.

 

Key to this might be when he said that the Sabath was created for man and not man for the Sabbath.

 

I think he would say the say about religions and Gods.

 

He asked in the bible, have ye forgotten that ye are Gods? 

 

Most have but not Gnostic Christians.

 

Regards

DL

 

I'm afraid this is all that rather cryptic to me (like much of monotheistic religion) and I'm struggling to put it into straight talking language without covering it in my own interpretations: rather like abstract art (no offense). Perhaps that's the point ha ha. Let's just say that "God" and "man" aren't beings, but states of mind, both of which are available to us according to our development. Imho of course 😉 .

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2 hours ago, Gnostic Christian said:

What they practice is the usual tribalism that all of us have.

 

Sure, me too, tribalism is part of our survival mechanism as part of the relative world, nothing wrong with that. 

 

2 hours ago, Gnostic Christian said:

They just have to do a lot of lying to keep the old fantasy traditions alive.

 

Lying implies that you know you're doing it, and you know what the actual truth is. It's interesting, I'm not sure most Christians are consciously lying in that way, yet when I think back to my childhood religion it became clear to me that most people were only believing in a limited way, as if it only became true after death. In this world, it's things like business, politics, emotion, and science/engineering which really matter. 

 

2 hours ago, Gnostic Christian said:

All the God religions will be replaced by state isms, or atheist churches, as modernization kills the supernatural beliefs.  

 

Christianity became a state -ism with Constantine didn't it? 

 

As for supernatural beliefs being killed off, perhaps the new age shows there's still a desire for believing. In any case, we need to be careful about this. On the basis that all language is dualistic; if you get rid of 'supernatural' then what is left as a contrast for 'natural' to have any meaning? Can you have up without down? It collapses into that-which-has-no-opposite. And what is that? We're getting into mysticism and there, supernatural is no worse a name than natural. But then I guess modernisers rarely look this deeply into what they're doing. 

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15 hours ago, Campion said:

if you get rid of 'supernatural' then what is left as a contrast for 'natural' to have any meaning?

I do not mind having the term.

 

What I mind are minds being foolish enough to believe in such a thing.

 

That leads to belief in talking serpents and donkeys and that gays should be hated just for being born that way.

 

Regards

DL

 

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