What kind of Christian are you?

[DarianF]

2 hours ago, alexa said:

 

I'm admitting to believing in Gods literal true word. Gen-1

 

"Some people believe in the flat earth because they have been convinced that the Bible teaches it. So they believe that by denying the FE, people are denying God’s word. IF the Bible taught the earth is flat, their argument would be sound. But the Bible does no such thing, so appealing to biblical inerrancy for non-existent flat-earth proof texts makes no sense."

 

A flat earth, and other nonsense

https://creation.com/refuting-flat-earth

[truther79]

12 hours ago, alexa said:

 

I stopped going to my Pentecostal church as during the covid hoax a lot of them were being jabbed & during the lock down the church refused to open. This covid hoax certainly bought out a lot of these Christians true colors.

Personally I hate labels, to me true Christianity is about having faith & believing in Gods written word, this is one of the reasons I'm in the flatgang.

Good to hear from you again Hope all is well with you?

 

I'm with you to an extent...Normally a Reformed believer wouldn't believe in a literal End Times interpretation, yet I do. Most certainly wouldn't be in the Flat Gang Interestingly...the church I go to has about 7 people that are. That's what I know of. Been blessed that we didn't close and the vast majority didn't get the jab.

[alexa]

11 minutes ago, truther79 said:

Good to hear from you again Hope all is well with you?

 

I'm with you to an extent...Normally a Reformed believer wouldn't believe in a literal End Times interpretation, yet I do. Most certainly wouldn't be in the Flat Gang Interestingly...the church I go to has about 7 people that are. That's what I know of. Been blessed that we didn't close and the vast majority didn't get the jab.

 

Hi truther  I'm fine, hope you are too.

 

I too believe in a literal end, I take every word of God literally especially Gen 1, I suppose this is why I find it so hard to believe that we live on spinning globe. Anyway I'm glad you are still keeping the faith & going to church, you must be well blessed b/c most Christians I talk too these days have been jabbed & know nothing about the book of Revelation.

 

Keep the good work up 

[Unity8]

I'm no longer a "christian", as this term is really indicative of the mainstream religious cult's manipulation of people's perceptions.  Authentic spirituality and what Yeshua taught are 180 degrees opposite of anything any church or synagogue will proffer as "spiritual truth".  I was brought up by parents who believe in "Jesus", yet held off on the conclusions that mainstream christianity professes concerning Christ's mission on the Earth.  This subject is far too complex to discuss on a "page or two".  Yeshua did not spend his life as some "sacrificial lamb" in order to appease some vengeful, angry deity.  His mission was to provide mankind with the message of the "Brotherhood of Man and the Fatherhood of God" per the Urantia Book.  I'm always saddened by the misunderstanding displayed by "believer" who profess to believe in a Jesus that has nothing to do with this original gospel.  Yeshua himself warned his disciples that they would distort and retranslate his teachings to form a worldwide religious cult which would shed more blood than all the containers on Earth could hold.  Damned if his words didn't come true to the letter, yet our "christians" still hold doggedly (like determined "believers") to the "Lie".  Yeshua also said he would correct this teaching error in "two times one thousand years", and this is certainly occurring at this present time.  It has taken me much painstaking research, reading, sorting, and time to discover the truth, and when you find it, you know it is the Truth.  I've had most of my questions concerning mainstream christianity answered, just as I'd asked to have done.

[Given To Fly]

A wee bit of a testimony.

 

I'm a recent convert to being Born Again and 100% convinced that it's the only way to salvation and that God guided me to this destination throughout my life, especially when being gang stalked (which is really demonic harassment).

 

It can't be said that i've been brainwashed or indoctrinated as even though I was born a Catholic I grew up in a somewhat secular household and went to integrated secondary education. And growing up in a troubles/post-troubles society in Derry religious sectarianism was strife where, by design, your allegiance/identity was favoured either towards Vatican Catholicism or Orange Order Protestantism. We didn't really have a choice as to find 'religious'/spiritual truth and partiality. And for most of my adult life (17 years prob) I was into socialism/Marxism/communism/anarchism. Totally Godless, and opened so many doors for demonic entrance, as well as having a bit of a worldly lifestyle involving alcohol, listening to occultic and godless etc music, and being very easy going.

 

Only having experienced being a TI (Targeted Individual) for many years did I realise that it was really spiritual warfare and that God was lifting his hand of protection. You might hear many people say that they've found Jesus, well for me, it was He that found me. He was knocking away on my door for years and I didn't answer or know how, hence why His constant chastisement of gang stalking.  I've seen and experienced a lot of supernatural things, including shapeshifting, which is how I really came to David Icke.  And luckily I was guided away from worldly and new-age ideals on how to cope and straight to Jesus after 10 years.

During a period of my gang stalking where I still blamed the government/MI5 etc and when I was still agnostic I'd find myself apologising in my head anytime I'd take the Lord's name in vain, which I learnt was me being convicted by the Holy Spirit.

 

Over the past few years I've no doubt been divinely guided to notice stuff ... discernment and eyes to see, and thankfully got to know and trust a number of youtube channels who had the same experiences as me and helped me in the journey to Christ and connected all the dots and answered all my questions, and most importantly found relief and victory. Even though I still get gang-stalked and jolts and zaps, it is very bearable, and I know who the instigator is (Satan through witchcraft and occult secret societies).

 

It's relationship with Jesus and not religion ... (especially organised religion, Churchianity and televangelists and prosperity gospel frauds).

 

I feel like I wouldn't be doing my duty if I didn't witness or testify to any of this and to the transformative power of the Holy Spirit. We're told that mankind is just a sexual animal with inherent thoughts of greed and lust. I used to believe so and when I read parts of the Bible, especially Paul's Epistles I used to guffaw at how God wanted us to behave, but I've had just a tap of the transformative power of the Holy Spirit. He's gotten me off alcohol for life (off it 7 months), even though I decided I would only drink maybe once a fortnight or once a month, He decided better  and now I don't even want to drink or got to a bar or sit with others who drink. My thoughts too for most of the time are clean. And I know I've not completed the process of being totally Born Again, but I know and can just imagine how of Christ I'll be when I do. Sounds corny and stupid, and again, I would have thought so, but for some reason He opened my eyes through grace and mercy.

[bamboozooka]

should you ditch the church as a place of worship and worship in your own home at a homemade altar?

 

 

[EnigmaticWorld]

34 minutes ago, bamboozooka said:

should you ditch the church as a place of worship and worship in your own home at a homemade altar?

 

 

 

If you're not bothered about the backlash, then I guess you could just speak to the elders and see what their views are on certain things, then leave if they're down with globohomo crap. It's a tough one for trad Christians, because church is cultural as well as religious, and the congregation should be the church, not the building, so you're cutting yourself of from the community aspect of church if you go it alone. I guess it doesn't matter if they're too far gone though.

[bamboozooka]

with regards to the uk church you cant trust the elders.

https://www.thetablet.co.uk/news/14821/get-vaccinated-say-archbishops-nichols-and-welby

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10334569/Archbishop-Canterbury-says-unvaccinated-immoral-love-neighbour.html

 

if the congregation follow the elders then you are left with no choice but to go it alone.

 

i know its something catholics do but not in anglican/church of england houses.

i remember growing up in the 70's there were few mosques, temples and i'd go round the houses of muslim or hindu friends

and they would have a prayer room in their house.

[Gnostic Christian]

I am a Gnostic Christian because we think in a more moral way as compared to Christianity.

 

Christians love the genocidal Yahweh/Jesus while we hate them because of their poor morals.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Regards

DL

 

 

Edited April 25, 2022 by Gnostic Christian

[lake]

34 minutes ago, Gnostic Christian said:

I am a Gnostic Christian because we think in a more moral way as compared to Christianity.

 

Christians love the genocidal Yahweh/Jesus while we hate them because of their poor morals.

 

May I ask you what your view is on this book ....

 

 

I don't think the link to the book is valid .... so an archive link ....

 

https://archive.org/details/the-forbidden-religion

[Macnamara]

On 4/5/2022 at 3:12 PM, bamboozooka said:

with regards to the uk church you cant trust the elders.

 

 

its all run by freemasons imo

[Campion]

2 hours ago, Gnostic Christian said:

I am a Gnostic Christian because we think in a more moral way as compared to Christianity.

 

Christians love the genocidal Yahweh/Jesus while we hate them because of their poor morals.

 

How do you practise Gnosticism these days, and are there Gnostic churches again? I've come across some references to it in reading The_Templar_Revelation by Lynne Picknett & Clive Prince (which covers a lot of other topics too) that explains how the Gnostic Cathars were suppressed in a crusade.  

[Gnostic Christian]

23 hours ago, Campion said:

 

How do you practise Gnosticism these days, and are there Gnostic churches again? I've come across some references to it in reading The_Templar_Revelation by Lynne Picknett & Clive Prince (which covers a lot of other topics too) that explains how the Gnostic Cathars were suppressed in a crusade.  

Crusade. No.

 

Many inquisitions.

 

Christians could not out argue our moral positions and had to use their political power. They never got all of us.

 

All religions are dying as few will do the work required for theosis or apotheosis.

 

Because of this fact, I let the enlightened atheists start their own churches and mystery schools.

 

No one will believe any claim of apotheosis so those are the next best thing.

 

There is one Gnostic Church in my city, but those fools have a supernatural belief, which is anathema to free thinking esoteric ecumenists. 

 

I practice my religion by pointing out that the Christian religion, especially it's right wing, is quite immoral.

 

I fight evil, as moral duty calls me to do.

 

Regards

DL

 

Edited April 26, 2022 by Gnostic Christian

[truther79]

On 4/3/2022 at 6:50 PM, Given To Fly said:

A wee bit of a testimony.

 

I'm a recent convert to being Born Again and 100% convinced that it's the only way to salvation and that God guided me to this destination throughout my life, especially when being gang stalked (which is really demonic harassment).

 

It can't be said that i've been brainwashed or indoctrinated as even though I was born a Catholic I grew up in a somewhat secular household and went to integrated secondary education. And growing up in a troubles/post-troubles society in Derry religious sectarianism was strife where, by design, your allegiance/identity was favoured either towards Vatican Catholicism or Orange Order Protestantism. We didn't really have a choice as to find 'religious'/spiritual truth and partiality. And for most of my adult life (17 years prob) I was into socialism/Marxism/communism/anarchism. Totally Godless, and opened so many doors for demonic entrance, as well as having a bit of a worldly lifestyle involving alcohol, listening to occultic and godless etc music, and being very easy going.

 

Only having experienced being a TI (Targeted Individual) for many years did I realise that it was really spiritual warfare and that God was lifting his hand of protection. You might hear many people say that they've found Jesus, well for me, it was He that found me. He was knocking away on my door for years and I didn't answer or know how, hence why His constant chastisement of gang stalking.  I've seen and experienced a lot of supernatural things, including shapeshifting, which is how I really came to David Icke.  And luckily I was guided away from worldly and new-age ideals on how to cope and straight to Jesus after 10 years.

During a period of my gang stalking where I still blamed the government/MI5 etc and when I was still agnostic I'd find myself apologising in my head anytime I'd take the Lord's name in vain, which I learnt was me being convicted by the Holy Spirit.

 

Over the past few years I've no doubt been divinely guided to notice stuff ... discernment and eyes to see, and thankfully got to know and trust a number of youtube channels who had the same experiences as me and helped me in the journey to Christ and connected all the dots and answered all my questions, and most importantly found relief and victory. Even though I still get gang-stalked and jolts and zaps, it is very bearable, and I know who the instigator is (Satan through witchcraft and occult secret societies).

 

It's relationship with Jesus and not religion ... (especially organised religion, Churchianity and televangelists and prosperity gospel frauds).

 

I feel like I wouldn't be doing my duty if I didn't witness or testify to any of this and to the transformative power of the Holy Spirit. We're told that mankind is just a sexual animal with inherent thoughts of greed and lust. I used to believe so and when I read parts of the Bible, especially Paul's Epistles I used to guffaw at how God wanted us to behave, but I've had just a tap of the transformative power of the Holy Spirit. He's gotten me off alcohol for life (off it 7 months), even though I decided I would only drink maybe once a fortnight or once a month, He decided better  and now I don't even want to drink or got to a bar or sit with others who drink. My thoughts too for most of the time are clean. And I know I've not completed the process of being totally Born Again, but I know and can just imagine how of Christ I'll be when I do. Sounds corny and stupid, and again, I would have thought so, but for some reason He opened my eyes through grace and mercy.

Thank you for an amazing testimony and speaking from the heart.

 

The fact you said Jesus found you is absolutely spot on.

[pi3141]

On 4/1/2022 at 9:14 AM, DarianF said:

 

"Some people believe in the flat earth because they have been convinced that the Bible teaches it. So they believe that by denying the FE, people are denying God’s word. IF the Bible taught the earth is flat, their argument would be sound. But the Bible does no such thing, so appealing to biblical inerrancy for non-existent flat-earth proof texts makes no sense."

 

A flat earth, and other nonsense

https://creation.com/refuting-flat-earth

 

I disagree with this article.

 

The Bible is a Flat Earth book, I won't go through the verses I think betray that the writers thought the Earth was flat and as such, the Bible cannot be seen as the Divine word of God.

 

Christians are used to squirming under their beliefs, they go through all sorts of mental gymnastics and an unhealthy dose of cognitive dissonance mixed  in with the brainwashing to stick with their faith, as that article shows. The authors argue that most of the verses are interpreted incorrectly and are largely due to Geocentric arguments, but again, they where wholly and absolutely wrong about the Earth being Geocentric - but thats forgotten about, or glossed over.

 

Once again I see Christians squirming under their faith to reason out something they cannot accept, like they don't accept they are Sun worshipers or Polytheists with their Trinity, Saints, Mother of God and Satan beliefs, they do not believe in One God they believe in many but excuse it with tales of Angelic hierarchy and God is 3 in One nonsense.

 

Christians are Sun worshiping Pagans and the Bible IS a Flat Earth book.

 

Example

Again, the devil took him to a very high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their splendor.  

“All this I will give you,” he said, “if you will bow down and worship me.”

10 Jesus said to him, “Away from me, Satan! 

 

How could Satan show Jesus ALL the kingdoms of the world if the Earth was not flat? Half the Kingdoms of the world would be on the other side of the Globe. Hence Satan could only have shown Jesus ALL the kingdoms of the world if it was Flat! Hence the writers of that passage believed the world was flat.

 

Sorry, just Christians trying to deflect and argue against something as plain as the nose on their face, again.

[theo102]

On 4/3/2022 at 10:42 AM, Unity8 said:

Yeshua did not spend his life as some "sacrificial lamb" in order to appease some vengeful, angry deity.

The sacrificial lamb story started with some murderous priests led by Caiaphas and was amplified by Paul. Paul, as a Pharisee, was aligned with the priesthood and as an Edomite was aligned with Rome, so he was an ideal vessel for the cult.

The Messiah gave plenty of hints about how to acquire the knowledge of the prophets, and the prophets gave plenty of hints about his role as a servant rather than a saviour.
 

[Given To Fly]

On 5/11/2022 at 5:52 PM, truther79 said:

Thank you for an amazing testimony and speaking from the heart.

 

The fact you said Jesus found you is absolutely spot on.

 

I've had so many spiritual experiences, that I'll hopefully add to this thread in time.

 

Yesterday was Pentecost Sunday. The Holy Spirit descending upon the apostles, and subsequently all believers who give their life to Jesus.

 

Deniers/atheists can't explain away the power and experience of the Holy Ghost. It renders any 'rational' and scientific explanation totally useless.

[Campion]

@Given To Fly  I'd be interested to hear about your spiritual experiences, if you ask me the lack of religious experience in mainstream Christianity over here explains much of the Church's decline, and the rise of the evangelical/charismatic movements. The Holy Spirit is the one part of the Trinity I can actually believe in, God the Father and God the Son don't resonate with me. 

[theo102]

On 6/6/2022 at 9:59 PM, Given To Fly said:

Yesterday was Pentecost Sunday. The Holy Spirit descending upon the apostles, and subsequently all believers who give their life to Jesus.

 

 

It wasn't what they thought it was.

Awake, O sword, against my shepherd, and against the man that is my fellow, saith YHWH of hosts: smite the shepherd, and the sheep shall be scattered: and I will turn mine hand upon the little ones.

Zechariah 13:7

 

 

[tommydrifter]

On 7/10/2021 at 9:55 AM, Xelador said:

I don't believe Christ existed, but I do believe in Christ Consciousness. This sums it up pretty well -

"Christ will incarnate, in a sense, within humanity as a divine state of consciousness. The ‘second coming’ of Christ is a transformation of human consciousness, a shift from time to presence, from thinking to pure consciousness, not the arrival of some man or woman." -- Eckhart Tolle

 

ECKHART HAS CHRIST CONSCIOUSNESS. HE IS TEACHING THE TRUE SPIRITUALITY. HE IS IN ALIGNMENT.

 

G
~
/i\

 

THERE IS ALSO A JESUS CHRIST. A MAN WHO LIVED, WHO LIVES.

 

 

What I write in capitals, I am channeling, that is not me. I have not a fucking clue where I am pulling this from but it is what it is.

 

What I think, is that, there was indeed a man, who did some remarkable things that were recorded. But the New Testament is an edited document, with many additions and deletions. It is not the official word of God, or even truthful. The information is doctored and used for mind-control purposes. I think we all know that, here, that the Romans used Christianity for political reasons. 

 

Stewart Swerdlow says the illuminati plan to introduce a cloned Jesus Christ for mind-control purposes as part of their New World Order agenda. This sounds far out, I know. Apparently, Stewart was involved in this project, out at Montauk Point. I know Stewart is a truthful source of information, in general. What he teaches about hyperspace deprogramming is True Spirituality. My nature is to not spread information that I personally cannot verify, but from what I know about Stewart, he is as good as it gets, in terms of reliable information, truthful information. (I am being guided to write this. From where? No fucking clue. Still my thoughts, however.)

 

"Jesus" was a man. There was a man.

 

Take it or leave it guys and gals. 

Edited June 8, 2022 by tommydrifter
formatting error; added three words

[tommydrifter]

14 minutes ago, tommydrifter said:

"Jesus" was a man. There was a man.

 

Just to be clear about things, that is not me, that is not my opinion. I have no idea if there was a "Jesus Christ", some guy, back in the day. I don't know what the fact of the matter is, that is outside of my knowledge base. I am pulling this information from without, judge it on its merits (I am being guided to write this, again). Hopefully, I can get better at telling you what is actually what, where I am pulling this from. But, I feel it is truthful, for the most part.

 

FEEL IT IN YOUR CELLS. YOU HAVE TO FEEL THE CELLULAR RESONANCE. THE VIBRATIONS WILL RESONATE IF IT IS TRUTHFUL. THIS IS PHYSICAL RESONANCE, NOT A CONCEPT. YOU HAVE THE CELLULAR MEMORY BECAUSE YOU WERE THERE. REINCARNATION IS TRUTHFUL. THERE IS REINCARNATION. THE MEMORIES ARE CARRIED FROM ONE LIFETIME TO THE NEXT. YOU RETAIN THE MEMORIES IN YOUR BODIES. IT WILL RESONATE IF IT IS TRUTHFUL. PHYSICALLY. THE VIBRATIONS WILL MATCH.

 

Look guys and gals, I have no idea if I am making this up. It is inspired. It is not me. Take it or leave it. I am learning along with you. It is news to me. (I am being guided to write this.) The question is, not where is it coming from, but does it make sense? There will be translation errors with channeling. He is doing his best.

[Macnamara]

These things can work on so many different levels, much of which is symbolic

 

Mark Passio has an interesting take on the holy trilogy. He sees the father as thought, the mother as emotion and the son as action. So things are first conceived of as an idea then if a person CARES enough they will have emotions about the issue which then determines the spirit in which they then approach the issue which is to say to then act upon their feelings to actually then manifest a change in physical reality that is then in accordance with how they thought and felt about something. The son in that equation becomes the offspring of the sacred union between the masculine and the feminine and without the son no actual change can manifest in our reality. In that sense there really is no path to the father except through the son

 

I think the maxim of jesus to judge a tree by its fruit is a great stand alone piece of wisdom. I don't say that out of bias because i come from christendom; i think i would use that maxim if it had been said by budha or muhammed or anyone because i think in a world of deception where evil wears many masks it is a great way to cut through the bullshit. There are no saints only flawed people imo; there are just those who try to do the right thing, those who don't try to do the right thing and those who deliberately do the wrong thing

[tommydrifter]

THE MEMORIES ARE STORED IN YOUR LOCKED DNA. YOU WERE THERE.

 

In what capacity?

 

YOU WERE THERE AT THE TIME IN SOME CAPACITY. YOU WERE PART OF THE TIME AND THE PLACE, THE ERA, IN SOME CAPACITY. YOU WERE PART OF THE HISTORY, THE GENERAL, BROADER HISTORY, IN SOME CAPACITY.

 

Look, take it or leave it. I could be making this up? I am trying to do a half-decent job of channeling something. It is a responsibility that I have -- I guess the worst-case scenario is it all turns out to be bullshit. Everything else is bullshit. So, there is nothing to lose, is there? Moderators, just ban me for spamming, that way I don't have to do this, I can be "released".

 

I feel like an idiot. 

 

I am going to try to let go and let this flow out, through me, from without and through. (I am being guided to write this.) Just bear with me. I am going to try and just let the source dictate and remove myself from the process. Whatever comes out, comes out.

 

~
 

[tommydrifter]

You will be able to tell if it is me because I don't talk like a fucking hippy. If it sounds like a fucking hippy, then it is the source. Just so you all know. It is not me. So don't blame me if I piss you off. 

[tommydrifter]

TRUTHFUL INFORMATION RESONATES AND FLOWS. IT SHOULD FEEL MUSICAL AS YOU READ IT, ENJOYABLE LIKE MUSIC. WORDS CARRY FREQUENCIES. THE ARRANGEMENT OF WORDS HOLD FREQUENCY INFORMATION. THEY ARE CARRIER WAVES. THIS IS HOW TO RECOGNISE THE TRUTH FROM THE LIES. IT IS RESONANT WITH YOUR DNA KNOWLEDGE.

 

I can't do this. It is not easy to translate. Apologies, if the message is distorted it is my fault. I'm an idiot, basically. (Probably not quite as stupid as you are.)