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3 minutes ago, Mr. Nice said:

 

Um? We used to have the technology. That is all the necessary equipment. Amazing how you can take that statement and fail to understand it.

 

What shocking and awful truth? This whole hogwash claim suggests Petit is saying we didn't go because of some crazy contrived interpretation of his meaning.

 

Why? You wanna debate this? 

 

Sorry but the we used to have the technology is laughable, you really can not make this a reason to be taken seriously, it is itself laughable!

 

That there are dead Astronauts on the Moon!!!.?

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22 minutes ago, Mr. Nice said:

I read it a few times and missed anything of substance

 

So having complete control over the MSM is something not of substance, it's funny but i am pretty sure we just witnessed some of the most blatant bullshit being pumped out of the idiot box on a global level, and i am wondering if it was just coincidental, but i am sure you can direct to the nearest re-education centre?

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36 minutes ago, sock muppet said:

 

Sorry but the we used to have the technology is laughable, you really can not make this a reason to be taken seriously, it is itself laughable!

 

That there are dead Astronauts on the Moon!!!.?

 

Baffling. The "we destroyed the technology" line is correctly interpreted is it? Did you even read my full reply.

 

What are you even talking about...dead astronauts on the Moon? 

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18 minutes ago, sock muppet said:

 

So having complete control over the MSM is something not of substance, it's funny but i am pretty sure we just witnessed some of the most blatant bullshit being pumped out of the idiot box on a global level, and i am wondering if it was just coincidental, but i am sure you can direct to the nearest re-education centre?

 

No. YOUR bare assertions and seriously odd observations are of no substance.

 

I don't even know what you are referring to just above. This thread is about the Apollo Moon landings.

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10 hours ago, Mr. Nice said:

We don't have it anymore for a whole variety of reasons.

 

10 hours ago, Mr. Nice said:

The blueprints for all machinery are held at the Marshall Space Centre. 

 

Thus they do have it .... and the first quote is incorrect.

 

10 hours ago, Mr. Nice said:

People on the internet sometimes print schematics and build models.

 

Again .... this means that the first quote is incorrect.

 

10 hours ago, Mr. Nice said:

The technology is outdated.

 

Which states that there is better technology to do the same job .... so going to the moon should be simpler than back then.

 

10 hours ago, Mr. Nice said:

Modern space travel has far more stringent safety standards.

 

So .... back then men were men and would risk life and limb .... but now any exploration is governed by soyboys who "lost the tech but we now have better because that old stuff is outdated ".

 

10 hours ago, Mr. Nice said:

It IS a very long process to re-develop new machinery and fully test it.

 

Sorry? .... To re-develop NEW machinery! 

I don't think that you remake something which is new .... thus the statement is meaningless!

 

2/10 .... c- .... Must try harder .... Has some skill for this subject but loses focus and stares out the window at times.

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48 minutes ago, Mr. Nice said:

What are you even talking about...dead astronauts on the Moon?

They went, they did some shopping, and sent back an empty module, well not quite empty as they had to shovel rocks and stuff into the module, hit the return button and crack open a beer as they watched the thing disappear from view, because of the intense radiation they were dead anyway, and if they were to return the public would have been rightly horrified at what they looked like upon return, Van Allen belts ring any bells for you, plus there is the Moons atmosphere which seriously puzzles me how it landed in one piece, but still there is a re-education center for someone like me that you can direct me to, oh and of course those mason's never lie do they, and it's not like them to keep a secret at all, and they do like a sacrifice every now and then to spice things up a little, and let's not forget how they love signalling with their number games to the whole world in front of it's nose, tut tut, that's got absolutely everything to do with coincidence, and i am sure you can dismiss all of this with ease.

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29 minutes ago, ink said:

Thus they do have it .... and the first quote is incorrect.

Again .... this means that the first quote is incorrect.

 

Whoah there. I didn't Say Petit was accurate. I just took him literally in the same way as the daft conspiracy claimant and explained the situation. Now if he had said, we don't have the hardware anymore, THAT would be more accurate. 

 

29 minutes ago, ink said:

Which states that there is better technology to do the same job .... so going to the moon should be simpler than back then.

 

Our survey says uuuu-uuurghh. Saying the technology used in 1969 was outdated doesn't mean we have purpose built, tested crafts to fly and land there already built right now. Sure it would be easier now, with the right investment. All the hard work was done in 1969 and much of the basis for today's methodology was established then. Orion was built fairly quickly and seems to be uo for the job but a new lander needs some work. Of course we could loosely model the new stuff on Apollo, but what are we trying to do? Repeat it? What for? Better it, needs some work.

 

29 minutes ago, ink said:

So .... back then men were men and would risk life and limb .... but now any exploration is governed by soyboys who "lost the tech but we now have better because that old stuff is outdated ".he window at times.

 

Don Petit isn't the spokesperson for the situation.  They have better potential, but your inaccurate claim that they already have it is nonsense.

 

29 minutes ago, ink said:

Sorry? .... To re-develop NEW machinery! 

I don't think that you remake something which is new .... thus the statement is meaningless!

 

Yes, redevelop NEW machinery. You take the old and create a newer version of it, once that works better and safer. The statement "the statement is meaningless" is actually meaningless.

 

29 minutes ago, ink said:

2/10 .... c- .... Must try harder .... Has some skill for this subject but loses focus and stares out the window at times.

 

0/10 Looks like some pretty off topic irrelevant guff there old boy. Don't try harder, just give up - we went.

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1 hour ago, Mr. Nice said:

I don't even know what you are referring to just above. This thread is about the Apollo Moon landings

 

I agree it's about the Apollo Moon landings and theater is a HUGE part of it, would not be possible otherwise.

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4 minutes ago, sock muppet said:

They went, they did some shopping, and sent back an empty module, well not quite empty as they had to shovel rocks and stuff into the module, hit the return button and crack open a beer as they watched the thing disappear from view, 

 

They went, brought back 842lbs of samples that cannot be faked.

 

4 minutes ago, sock muppet said:

because of the intense radiation they were dead anyway, and if they were to return the public would have been rightly horrified at what they looked like upon return, Van Allen belts ring any bells for you,

 

What intense radiation bullshit is this? Van Allen belt? They skirted the weaker areas on a 30 degree elevated trajectory that when incorporating the tilt of the Earth bypassed the more denser areas. Otherwise they would have had bad dose and been ill for a few days.

 

What have you got on the matter? Some made up shite from a hoax film? Did you read about this on some hoax believer's blog?

 

4 minutes ago, sock muppet said:

plus there is the Moons atmosphere which seriously puzzles me how it landed in one piece, 

 

What bloody atmosphere? It's as strong as flea's fart! Just because it puzzles YOU, doesn't mean it puzzled the smart people who put it down.

 

4 minutes ago, sock muppet said:

but still there is a re-education center for someone like me that you can direct me to, oh and of course those mason's never lie do they, and it's not like them to keep a secret at all, and they do like a sacrifice every now and then to spice things up a little, and let's not forget how they love signalling with their number games to the whole world in front of it's nose, tut tut, that's got absolutely everything to do with coincidence, and i am sure you can dismiss all of this with ease.

 

Conspiracy guff. If you want some education on Apollo, I can recommend some websites for you or you can post your cut and paste hoax-by-numbers here and I'll show you why it's all bollocks.

 

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2 minutes ago, Mr. Nice said:

What intense radiation bullshit is this?

 

The stuff you encounter when you leave the protective shield of Earths magnetic field that radiation, in space it is everywhere particularly UV, which should of played havoc with the electrical systems on board the potting shed of a spaceship they were in, that radiation or do you think space is just a vacuum?

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Just now, sock muppet said:

The stuff you encounter when you leave the protective shield of Earths magnetic field that radiation, in space it is everywhere particularly UV, which should of played havoc with the electrical systems on board the potting shed of a spaceship they were in, that radiation or do you think space is just a vacuum?

 

Ultra violet? Lol, seriously? Attenuated by the hull, you think it goes through aluminium and steel?

 

Is this ireally your level of understanding on space radiation ?

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1 minute ago, sock muppet said:

I could always go to the Apollo theater in London, might actually learn something there on how to suspend reality for the audience.

 

Or you could go and read up on the matter and actually learn why you have been suckered.

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Do we underlings even know what NASA is or just what we've been told? It doesn't appear to be anything to do with space, the moon or anything to do with rockets. Just seems a place that garners shit loads of money and tinkers with things it ought not to.

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Just now, sock muppet said:

A fleas fart would do an enormous amount of damage to a potting shed upon encountering it particularly at a high rate of velocity.

 

Is this what you are going to do? Answer the post or choose a subject you know something about.

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Just now, sock muppet said:

What with your statements, which has no substance at all within them.

 

You appear to be just trolling. Make your case, but use things you don't appear to be aware off like facts and citations. What do I actually need to say in response to somebody just attention seeking.

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2 minutes ago, Mr. Nice said:

 

Is this what you are going to do? Answer the post or choose a subject you know something about.

 

I don't know a definitive refutation of what's been presented might help yet there is none, well not from you.

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6 minutes ago, Mr. Nice said:

Ultra violet? Lol, seriously? Attenuated by the hull, you think it goes through aluminium and steel?

 

So lets back track for a mo, you say tinfoil can stop intense radiation is this correct?

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Just now, sock muppet said:

So lets back track for a mo, you say tinfoil can stop intense radiation is this correct?

 

Let's examine that statement. There is no intense radiation and they didn't use tinfoil.

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Just now, Mr. Nice said:

 

Let's examine that statement. There is no intense radiation and they didn't use tinfoil.

 

And you just lost the million pound question, oh we're so sorry that you leave empty handed but, thanks for being a wonderful contestant.

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5 minutes ago, sock muppet said:

And you just lost the million pound question, oh we're so sorry that you leave empty handed but, thanks for being a wonderful contestant.

 

This is just trolling. Apollo shielding on the LM was Kapton / Mylar and micro-meteorite shielding. No tin. That is the kind of thing claimed by people ignorant of the design. As for intense space radiation, that only occurs when there are major solar events. None occurred during any Apollo mission.

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