peter Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 Before we start,I will say up front that I believe we went to the moon and back ,and I have not changed my opinion. I have heard the conspiracy theories,eg lighting shadows ,no dust under the lander no stars in photos apparent discrepancies with the flag ,etc etc, which I believe has been explained, to my satisfaction at least so please don't bring them up. I have just read an interesting article that falls squarely in the landings were fake camp, as I said it hasn't swayed my opinion as I can see some problems with certain assumptions but the article is very interesting to say the least . I would say most who abide in the non believers camp would not have seen this before so in the interest of fair debate here you go This was the only way I could put it up , the correct order is conspiracy ,the Russian with the helmet, Braun standing near the rocket exhaust,the American with the flag, the launch of apollo 6, the one with the movie camera,the one with the mission time photos and finally the one with the blue in the top RH corner It was from the Nexus mag 2019 April May edition, if you cant read it maybe you could look it up on line . I would be interested to know what people think from both sides of the camp it is 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
endfreemasonscum Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 I found it on google books if anyone is interested in reading this. https://books.google.com/books?id=vpCxDwAAQBAJ&printsec=copyright#v=onepage&q&f=false On page 21, Walsh writes... After liftoff from the lunar surface, the LM docked with the CM 3 1/2 hours later. This right here has always been one of the reasons that we know that the entire masonic story is nonsense. And that is the official narrative. Any moon landing fans should really think on that. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarianF Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 (edited) 11 minutes ago, endfreemasonscum said: I found it on google books if anyone is interested in reading this. https://books.google.com/books?id=vpCxDwAAQBAJ&printsec=copyright#v=onepage&q&f=false On page 21, Walsh writes... After liftoff from the lunar surface, the LM docked with the CM 3 1/2 hours later. This right here has always been one of the reasons that we know that the entire masonic story is nonsense. And that is the official narrative. Any moon landing fans should really think on that. https://history.nasa.gov/afj/ap11fj/19day6-rendezvs-dock.html Edited March 17, 2022 by DarianF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarianF Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 (edited) On 6/26/2021 at 12:25 AM, peter said: Before we start,I will say up front that I believe we went to the moon and back ,and I have not changed my opinion. I have heard the conspiracy theories,eg lighting shadows ,no dust under the lander no stars in photos apparent discrepancies with the flag ,etc etc, which I believe has been explained, to my satisfaction at least so please don't bring them up. I have just read an interesting article that falls squarely in the landings were fake camp, as I said it hasn't swayed my opinion as I can see some problems with certain assumptions but the article is very interesting to say the least . I would say most who abide in the non believers camp would not have seen this before so in the interest of fair debate here you go This was the only way I could put it up , the correct order is conspiracy ,the Russian with the helmet, Braun standing near the rocket exhaust,the American with the flag, the launch of apollo 6, the one with the movie camera,the one with the mission time photos and finally the one with the blue in the top RH corner It was from the Nexus mag 2019 April May edition, if you cant read it maybe you could look it up on line . I would be interested to know what people think from both sides of the camp it is Under powered? Yeah, sure. lol. Edited March 17, 2022 by DarianF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted March 17, 2022 Author Share Posted March 17, 2022 23 minutes ago, DarianF said: Under powered? Yeah, sure. lol. The biggest problem I had with the article was the author said the rockets weren't tested enough as a reason it was faked, which in it's self means nothing and he also based his assumption that the rocket was not traveling fast enough because it didn't reach a certain layer of cloud at a prescribed time after takeoff that usually reside at a certain altitude. To me that assumption is rather fraught with available inconsistencies predetermined by fluctuating weather conditions, and this was one of his key pieces of evidence . I have to say after reading the article it was good but not that good , and in my opinion they did go to the moon but which was more impressive in 1969 the moon landing or Woodstock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarianF Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 6 minutes ago, peter said: The biggest problem I had with the article was the author said the rockets weren't tested enough as a reason it was faked, which in it's self means nothing and he also based his assumption that the rocket was not traveling fast enough because it didn't reach a certain layer of cloud at a prescribed time after takeoff that usually reside at a certain altitude. To me that assumption is rather fraught with available inconsistencies predetermined by fluctuating weather conditions, and this was one of his key pieces of evidence . I have to say after reading the article it was good but not that good , and in my opinion they did go to the moon but which was more impressive in 1969 the moon landing or Woodstock I just find the concept of saying the most powerful machine ever built by man is under powered, totally ridiculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted March 17, 2022 Author Share Posted March 17, 2022 1 hour ago, endfreemasonscum said: After liftoff from the lunar surface, the LM docked with the CM 3 1/2 hours later. This right here has always been one of the reasons that we know that the entire masonic story is nonsense. And that is the official narrative. Any moon landing fans should really think on that. Why right there,do you know how long it takes to get the two craft to be aligned for docking with regards to orbital mechanics and the moon uvers (pun intended) required and how long they take,I certainly don't but obviously you do and the good old masons got a mention just for good measure. Well that settles it then 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarianF Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 8 minutes ago, peter said: Why right there,do you know how long it takes to get the two craft to be aligned for docking with regards to orbital mechanics and the moon uvers (pun intended) required and how long they take,I certainly don't but obviously you do and the good old masons got a mention just for good measure. Well that settles it then https://archive.org/details/Apollo-11_LM-landing_US-Flag-lunar-surface_LM-ascent-lunar-orbit-approach.mxf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
endfreemasonscum Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, peter said: Why right there,do you know how long it takes to get the two craft to be aligned for docking with regards to orbital mechanics and the moon uvers (pun intended) required and how long they take,I certainly don't but obviously you do and the good old masons got a mention just for good measure. Well that settles it then It isn't about how long it should take. It is what is happening here on Earth during that time. Take a good look at the first video darian posted. Even if you want to claim that that is 100% real, that lift and thrust can be created in a [near] perfect vacuum, as nasa does to this day, how fast does that thing even go? Pretend the docking only took five minutes. It just doesn't matter! And the masons don't get a mention just for good measure. Without going into too much detail, I’d like to share a little something. When I was first beginning to wake, these two articles which I had found on David’s old site simply fascinated me. I was such a believer and had never even heard of freemasons or the illuminati or any of it. I remember that evening like yesterday. The snow, high winds, it was a blizzard out there. But, I was heading out to meet some friends and for the rest of that night I asked everyone I saw the same thing. “Have you ever heard of the illuminati or freemasons?” About half of them had. I would get answers ranging from things like, “Oh, the guys that run the world,” to “Yeah, it’s some conspiracy theory…” and finally to “Bro, there’s a masonic lodge across the street!” I had driven past this building many times and had not ever even pondered what that windowless, brick, finely kept structure even was. I had more important thing to do. So, what was it that fascinated me so about these two articles? David Icke NASA Masonic Conspiracy Apollo Missions Masonic Symbols NASA Masonic Conspiracy Apollo Missions Masonic Symbols An excerpt from Wm Cooper's site http://www.williamcooper.com/majestyt.htm To make interstellar travel believable NASA was created. The Apollo Space Program foisted the idea that man could travel to, and walk upon, the moon. Every Apollo mission was carefully rehearsed and then filmed in large sound stages at the Atomic Energy Commissions Top Secret test site in the Nevada Desert and in a secured and guarded sound stage at the Walt Disney Studios within which was a huge scale mock-up of the moon. All names, missions, landing sites, and events in the Apollo Space Program echoed the occult metaphors, rituals, and symbology of the Illuminati's secret religion. The most transparent was the faked explosion on the spacecraft Apollo 13, named "Aquarius" (new age) at 1:13 (1313 military time) on April 13, 1970 which was the metaphor for the initiation ceremony involving the death (explosion), placement in the coffin (period of uncertainty of their survival, communion with the spiritual world and the imparting of esoteric knowledge to the candidate (orbit and observation of the moon without physical contact), rebirth of the initiate (solution of problem and repairs), and the raising up (of the Phoenix, the new age of Aquarius) by the grip of the lions paw (reentry and recovery of Apollo 13). 13 is the number of death and rebirth, death and reincarnation, sacrifice, the Phoenix, the Christ (perfected soul imprisoned in matter), and the transition from the old to the new. Another revelation to those who understand the symbolic language of the Illuminati is the hidden meaning of the names of the Space Shuttles, "A Colombian Enterprise to Endeavor for the Discovery of Atlantis ... and all Challengers shall be destroyed." Exploration of the moon stopped because it was impossible to continue the hoax without being ultimately discovered. And of course they ran out of pre- filmed episodes. No man has ever ascended higher than 300 miles, if that high, above the Earth's surface. No man has ever orbited, landed on, or walked upon the moon in any publicly known space program. If man has ever truly been to the moon it has been done in secret and with a far different technology… A Colombian Enterprise to Endeavor for the Discovery of Atlantis... and all Challengers shall be destroyed ----------------------------------- NASA Masonic Conspiracy Apollo Missions Masonic Symbols Apollo 13 spacecraft, name 'Aquarius' which occurred at 1:13 in the afternoon (1313 military time) on April 13, 1970. Mars Pathfinder landing site (19.50 N by 33.30 W which = 33 x 11 = 333) - July 4th, 1997. which is 7/4/1997 Apollo 11 launched in the 7th month. Apollo is a pagan god, Roman Empire. Columbia module columbia route word in latin is columba, a pagan god Roman Empire. Saturn rocket booster Saturn is a pagan god, Roman Empire. Saturn in old latin is the same word as SATAN. Remember the metaphor in the Bible of the Tower of Babel. Where Satan was erecting a tower to try to climb out of hell to get into Heaven. Earth - Hell, Heaven, The heavens. Somebody was trying to leave this earth, and something was holding them back. Now with Apollo 11 we have the Satan rocket booster lifting off from earth(hell) and the tower that disconnected form the Satan rocket booster had on one side a 6, the top of it a 6, and on the other side a 6 = 666. You can verify this by watching the documentary that is available on www.afunnythinghappenedonthewaytothemoon.com and www.moontruth.com Somebody was trying to leave this earth..........and something was holding them BACK! They never went to the moon with Apollo 11. It was a diversion tactic to divert your attention away from the civil rights movement and the Vietnam war protest. There was a lot of Anti-establishment activity at this time. They needed a ploy to get you to wrap yourselves around the flag. The Eagle Never landed One small step for man................... One Giant FRAUD for Mankind! THE DEMONS WILL NEVER GET INTO THE HEAVENS! Demons destroy..............Angels Create. NASA has one runway at Kennedy Space Center: Runway 33 and two platforms to lift off the space shuttle platform 39a, and platform .........39b. http://www.davidicke.net/symbolism/articles/dec2002/occult.html The article is still mirrored here… http://www.whale.to/b/duke.html Edited March 17, 2022 by endfreemasonscum 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Nice Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 3 hours ago, endfreemasonscum said: On page 21, Walsh writes... After liftoff from the lunar surface, the LM docked with the CM 3 1/2 hours later. This right here has always been one of the reasons that we know that the entire masonic story is nonsense. And that is the official narrative. Any moon landing fans should really think on that. Once again, you baffle with a claim that has not only no substance but doesn't make any sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Nice Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 @peterThis should help you with any hiccups: MOON HOAX: DEBUNKED!: 7.10 Do Russian calculations show that the Saturn V wasn’t powerful enough? (moonhoaxdebunked.com) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaleP Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 4 hours ago, endfreemasonscum said: I found it on google books if anyone is interested in reading this. https://books.google.com/books?id=vpCxDwAAQBAJ&printsec=copyright#v=onepage&q&f=false On page 21, Walsh writes... After liftoff from the lunar surface, the LM docked with the CM 3 1/2 hours later. This right here has always been one of the reasons that we know that the entire masonic story is nonsense. And that is the official narrative. Any moon landing fans should really think on that. How long does it take to reach the Moon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Nice Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 29 minutes ago, endfreemasonscum said: It isn't about how long it should take. It is what is happening here on Earth during that time. Take a good look at the first video darian posted. Even if you want to claim that that is 100% real, that lift and thrust can be created in a [near] perfect vacuum, as nasa does to this day, how fast does that thing even go? Pretend the docking only took five minutes. It just doesn't matter! Bizarre and just odd. What is happening on Earth that makes any difference? Nothing. Please tell me you aren't a rockets in space denier because it is a vacuum. Please tell me this. I took a look at the Apollo 11 ascent video. The ascent to close by the CSM was reasonably quick. The change in orbital planes is what took the time. It's a whole lot of messing about. How fast does that go? As fast as the rocket thrust detemines. To every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. Exhaust goes one way at thousands of miles per hour, the rocket goes in the other. P.s. there is no "lift" in a vacuum. 29 minutes ago, endfreemasonscum said: And the masons don't get a mention just for good measure. Correct, why would they 29 minutes ago, endfreemasonscum said: Without going into too much detail, I’d like to share a little something. When I was first beginning to wake, these two articles which I had found on David’s old site simply fascinated me. I was such a believer and had never even heard of freemasons or the illuminati or any of it. I remember that evening like yesterday. The snow, high winds, it was a blizzard out there. But, I was heading out to meet some friends and for the rest of that night I asked everyone I saw the same thing. “Have you ever heard of the illuminati or freemasons?” About half of them had. I would get answers ranging from things like, “Oh, the guys that run the world,” to “Yeah, it’s some conspiracy theory…” and finally to “Bro, there’s a masonic lodge across the street!” Nobody really cares about you "waking up" if it then put you into a slumber about stuff you don't know much about. 29 minutes ago, endfreemasonscum said: David Icke NASA Masonic Conspiracy Apollo Missions Masonic Symbols NASA Masonic Conspiracy Apollo Missions Masonic Symbols An excerpt from Wm Cooper's site http://www.williamcooper.com/majestyt.htm To make interstellar travel believable NASA was created. WRONG The Apollo Space Program foisted the idea that man could travel to, and walk upon, the moon. Which he did. Every Apollo mission was carefully rehearsed and then filmed in large sound stages at the Atomic Energy Commissions Top Secret test site in the Nevada Desert and in a secured and guarded sound stage at the Walt Disney Studios within which was a huge scale mock-up of the moon. BULLSHIT bare assertion. There are thousands of hours of dialogue alone. All names, missions, landing sites, and events in the Apollo Space Program echoed the occult metaphors, rituals, and symbology of the Illuminati's secret religion. No they don't. The most transparent was the faked explosion on the spacecraft Apollo 13, named "Aquarius" (new age) at 1:13 (1313 military time) on April 13, 1970 which was the metaphor for the initiation ceremony involving the death (explosion), placement in the coffin (period of uncertainty of their survival, communion with the spiritual world and the imparting of esoteric knowledge to the candidate (orbit and observation of the moon without physical contact), rebirth of the initiate (solution of problem and repairs), and the raising up (of the Phoenix, the new age of Aquarius) by the grip of the lions paw (reentry and recovery of Apollo 13). 13 is the number of death and rebirth, death and reincarnation, sacrifice, the Phoenix, the Christ (perfected soul imprisoned in matter), and the transition from the old to the new. AQUARIUS is the bringer of water. Another revelation to those who understand the symbolic language of the Illuminati is the hidden meaning of the names of the Space Shuttles, "A Colombian Enterprise to Endeavor for the Discovery of Atlantis ... and all Challengers shall be destroyed." "Another" reveleation? Where are the others including this one? Exploration of the moon stopped because it was impossible to continue the hoax without being ultimately discovered. One of the most ridiculous claims possible. Apollo performed 6 landings ever increasing in duration and complexity. And of course they ran out of pre- filmed episodes. Bullshit. Just made up and provably wrong in so many ways. No man has ever ascended higher than 300 miles, if that high, above the Earth's surface. Bullshit. Bare assertion. No man has ever orbited, landed on, or walked upon the moon in any publicly known space program. Bullshit. Bare assertion. If man has ever truly been to the moon it has been done in secret and with a far different technology… Bullshit. Bare assertion. Well, with all due respect, David has posted quite a few things over the years from outside sources and makes no claim that they are the "truth". As he puts it, pass on information and make of it what you will. I made garbage of William Cooper's article which to me, in its entirety shows some real ignorance of the subject matter of space travel. Call signs: Apollo 13 “Odyssey,” reminiscent of the long voyage of Odysseus of Greek mythology. “Aquarius,” after the Egyptian god Aquarius, the water carrier. Aquarius brought fertility and therefore life and knowledge to the Nile Valley, as the Apollo 13 crew hoped to bring knowledge from the Moon. 29 minutes ago, endfreemasonscum said: Apollo 13 spacecraft, name 'Aquarius' which occurred at 1:13 in the afternoon (1313 military time) on April 13, 1970. Hogwash. The accident happened at 55:54:53 mission time / 03:08 UTC on April 14, 10:08 PM EST, April 13. 29 minutes ago, endfreemasonscum said: Mars Pathfinder landing site (19.50 N by 33.30 W which = 33 x 11 = 333) - July 4th, 1997. which is 7/4/1997 Hogwash again. The landing point is estimated to be at 19.33 N, 33.55 W. 29 minutes ago, endfreemasonscum said: Apollo 11 launched in the 7th month. Apollo is a pagan god, Roman Empire. Columbia module columbia route word in latin is columba, a pagan god Roman Empire. Saturn rocket booster Saturn is a pagan god, Roman Empire. Saturn in old latin is the same word as SATAN. Remember the metaphor in the Bible of the Tower of Babel. Where Satan was erecting a tower to try to climb out of hell to get into Heaven. Earth - Hell, Heaven, The heavens. Somebody was trying to leave this earth, and something was holding them back. Baffling gibberish. How is it relevant to the OP? 29 minutes ago, endfreemasonscum said: Now with Apollo 11 we have the Satan rocket booster lifting off from earth(hell) and the tower that disconnected form the Satan rocket booster had on one side a 6, the top of it a 6, and on the other side a 6 = 666. Prove that, but so what! 29 minutes ago, endfreemasonscum said: You can verify this by watching the documentary that is available on www.afunnythinghappenedonthewaytothemoon.com A film made by a proven liar, showing about as many deceptive things as you can get. Pick any section and I'll tear it apart. 29 minutes ago, endfreemasonscum said: Somebody was trying to leave this earth..........and something was holding them BACK! They never went to the moon with Apollo 11. It was a diversion tactic to divert your attention away from the civil rights movement and the Vietnam war protest. There was a lot of Anti-establishment activity at this time. They needed a ploy to get you to wrap yourselves around the flag. Bare assertion and provably wrong - the mountain of evidence proves we landed on the Moon. 29 minutes ago, endfreemasonscum said: The Eagle Never landed One small step for man...................One Giant FRAUD for Mankind! Nope, it is up there with mankind's greatest achievement. Let's get specific, because this post is just daft observations and incorrect facts. 29 minutes ago, endfreemasonscum said: NASA has one runway at Kennedy Space Center: Runway 33 and two platforms to lift off the space shuttle platform 39a, and platform .........39b. The runway is 15 or 33 depending on direction. Can you point out your skills of numbers with the other ones in this list List of Space Shuttle landing sites - Wikipedia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
endfreemasonscum Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 https://scottishritenmj.org/blog/masonic-astronauts 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Nice Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 (edited) 59 minutes ago, endfreemasonscum said: https://scottishritenmj.org/blog/masonic-astronauts How is this relevant to the OP? You've found some freemasons in NASA, does that mean they are scum then? It's like you have a preformed opinion of every one who has ever been in the organisation. Are we not doing debate then? In the other thread I await your rebuttal on fraud with finances and the post above . Tell me about that doctored Aldrin picture? Edited March 17, 2022 by Mr. Nice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted March 17, 2022 Author Share Posted March 17, 2022 6 hours ago, Mr. Nice said: Please tell me you aren't a rockets in space denier because it is a vacuum. That thought did cross my mind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
endfreemasonscum Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 3 hours ago, peter said: That thought did cross my mind That's not close to fair. But in all seriousness... Just look at the state of that! If someone dry-walled your house like that you'd lose it. Science & Exploration Surviving extreme conditions in space 27/07/2004 65368 views 316 likes ESA / Science & Exploration / Space Science / Extreme space Space is one of the most extreme environments imaginable. Above the insulating atmosphere of the Earth, spacecraft are subjected to extremes of temperature, both hot and cold, and a significantly increased threat of radiation damage. The first extreme condition a spacecraft has to deal with is that of launch. The rocket that places the spacecraft into orbit will also shake it violently and batter it with extremely loud sound waves. Either of these phenomena can shatter delicate pieces of equipment and so engineers always build a thermal and structural model of the spacecraft and test it. They simulate the conditions of launch using the vibration table and acoustic chamber at ESA's European Space Technology Centre (ESTEC) in The Netherlands. Temperatures in space can range from the extremely cold, hundreds of degrees below freezing, to many hundreds of degrees above – especially if a spacecraft ventures close to the Sun. Although there is no air in space, energy is carried by radiation, usually coming from the Sun, that causes heating when it is absorbed by spacecraft, planets or other celestial bodies.... https://www.esa.int/Science_Exploration/Space_Science/Extreme_space/Surviving_extreme_conditions_in_space And the whole docking thing? What again is the Earth doing during this time? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted March 18, 2022 Author Share Posted March 18, 2022 11 minutes ago, endfreemasonscum said: That's not close to fair. But in all seriousness... Just look at the state of that! If someone dry-walled your house like that you'd lose it. Science & Exploration Surviving extreme conditions in space 27/07/2004 65368 views 316 likes ESA / Science & Exploration / Space Science / Extreme space Space is one of the most extreme environments imaginable. Above the insulating atmosphere of the Earth, spacecraft are subjected to extremes of temperature, both hot and cold, and a significantly increased threat of radiation damage. The first extreme condition a spacecraft has to deal with is that of launch. The rocket that places the spacecraft into orbit will also shake it violently and batter it with extremely loud sound waves. Either of these phenomena can shatter delicate pieces of equipment and so engineers always build a thermal and structural model of the spacecraft and test it. They simulate the conditions of launch using the vibration table and acoustic chamber at ESA's European Space Technology Centre (ESTEC) in The Netherlands. Temperatures in space can range from the extremely cold, hundreds of degrees below freezing, to many hundreds of degrees above – especially if a spacecraft ventures close to the Sun. Although there is no air in space, energy is carried by radiation, usually coming from the Sun, that causes heating when it is absorbed by spacecraft, planets or other celestial bodies.... https://www.esa.int/Science_Exploration/Space_Science/Extreme_space/Surviving_extreme_conditions_in_space And the whole docking thing? What again is the Earth doing during this time? After all of that ,whats your point (And the whole docking thing? What again is the Earth doing during this time?.) Your question makes no sense ,that's like asking me what my dog was doing at the time,it could have been taking a shit but who knows Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
endfreemasonscum Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 9 minutes ago, peter said: After all of that ,whats your point What? Close-up... Blow it up. Have a look around. What if someone dry-walled your house like that? Would you let you kids play in it? In the water? And yet at several times the speed of sound men rocketed to the moon and then landed on it in that thing? Laughable. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted March 18, 2022 Author Share Posted March 18, 2022 (edited) 46 minutes ago, endfreemasonscum said: What? Close-up... Blow it up. Have a look around. What if someone dry-walled your house like that? Would you let you kids play in it? In the water? And yet at several times the speed of sound men rocketed to the moon and then landed on it in that thing? Laughable. your arguments certainly are, so your a plaster by trade then, is it a genuine picture maybe you can let me know how you verify that , I'm not sating it's bogus ,I just don't know ,but do you , if so how. Maybe it is real because the module is vertical and if you look closely the lunar horizon indicates curvature. What a dilemma, if you say its a fake you have put up bullshit evidence to further your cause and if you say its real the horizon indicates curvature therefore we could assume the same for earth, where are your Freemasons when you need them Edited March 18, 2022 by peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
endfreemasonscum Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 14 minutes ago, peter said: I'm not sating it's bogus I would not do that. It is absolutely from nasa. They call it the apollo 11 lunar module or Lunar Module Eagle. And you are not the first. Everyone I show that to who sees it for the first time have the exact same reaction. They are laughing their masonic asses off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarianF Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 1 hour ago, peter said: After all of that ,whats your point (And the whole docking thing? What again is the Earth doing during this time?.) Your question makes no sense ,that's like asking me what my dog was doing at the time,it could have been taking a shit but who knows It's amazing how the hoax crowd keeps repeating the same junk that has been dubunked over and over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted March 18, 2022 Author Share Posted March 18, 2022 49 minutes ago, endfreemasonscum said: I would not do that. It is absolutely from nasa. They call it the apollo 11 lunar module or Lunar Module Eagle. And you are not the first. Everyone I show that to who sees it for the first time have the exact same reaction. They are laughing their masonic asses off. well like I said in my reply you face a dilemma then or are you just going to ignore it ( that's right the moon doesn't actually exist so we cant have gone there) You say its from NASA how do I know, I only have your word and with regards to your obvious love of repeating things and confirmation bias what conclusions should I draw as the authentic nature of the photo .Did you get it directly off NASA's web site and if so what number photo is it and could you please tell me the difference between a masonic ass and a normal one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarianF Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 1 hour ago, endfreemasonscum said: What? Close-up... Blow it up. Have a look around. What if someone dry-walled your house like that? Would you let you kids play in it? In the water? And yet at several times the speed of sound men rocketed to the moon and then landed on it in that thing? Laughable. - https://space.stackexchange.com/questions/5899/why-does-the-ascent-stage-of-apollo-11s-lunar-module-look-like-its-made-of-pap - https://www.quora.com/Why-does-the-Lunar-Landing-Module-look-like-it-is-wrapped-in-golden-aluminium-foil Yes. Laughable that you didn't look into this before posting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarianF Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 3 minutes ago, peter said: well like I said in my reply you face a dilemma then or are you just going to ignore it ( that's right the moon doesn't actually exist so we cant have gone there) You say its from NASA how do I know, I only have your word and with regards to your obvious love of repeating things and confirmation bias what conclusions should I draw as the authentic nature of the photo .Did you get it directly off NASA's web site and if so what number photo is it and could you please tell me the difference between a masonic ass and a normal one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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